The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans / Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money

3 years ago by L4sBot to c/technology

The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans / Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money::Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money.

Vlyn 201 points 3 years ago

No shit. I'd bet money the Cybertruck design isn't coming from an engineer. Elon probably sat down with his crayons, drew his dream car and forced his poor employees to try and make this piece of shit work.

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misterkiem 168 points 3 years ago

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KnightontheSun 52 points 3 years ago

I think all of us had the Cybertruck design back when we were about 4 years old.

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Bishma 30 points 3 years ago

That's funny, I've describe that monstrosity as "the truck of my dreams... when I was 4," more than once.

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KnightontheSun 27 points 3 years ago

I mean, if I were working on that project I'd either laugh so hard everyday or I'd have to quit. It's just so comically bad.

I am also shocked Elon is not suing all the 4yr olds out there that have "stolen" his design.

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rebelsimile 18 points 3 years ago

It’s like a car from the N64 era. Nobody is nostalgic for the actual look and feel of the N64 era. Behold!

https://www.giantbomb.com/...

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A7thStone 10 points 3 years ago

I've said it before, n64 games had more polygons than this. It's a virtualboy truck and it gives you a migraine to look at just like the virtualboy did.

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pthaloblue 5 points 3 years ago

actually... that kinda makes me nostalgic. No Mercy was the best, and it holds up pretty well!

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billiam0202 4 points 3 years ago

No Mercy was the best

Huh, I've never seen anyone spell WCW/nWo Revenge that way before.

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rebelsimile 1 point 3 years ago

The game play is great, they don’t make ‘em like that anymore (or do they? Let me know). But no one’s making retro N64 era transitional 3d graphics is what I meant. Mario 64 is a great game but I don’t think I can think of a single game that actually tries to hit that aesthetic in modern times.

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jordanpeterson -20 points 3 years ago

The Tesla Cybertruck, a brainchild of Elon Musk, is not just a vehicle; it is a manifestation of deep-seated archetypes that have been etched into the human psyche since time immemorial. This vehicle, with its stark, geometric form, echoes the fundamental principles of order and symmetry, principles that Jung himself might argue are rooted in the collective unconscious of humanity. It's not just a truck; it's a symbol, an archetype representing the pinnacle of human innovation and design.

Elon Musk, in creating the Cybertruck, has not merely designed a new vehicle. He has tapped into the most primal elements of what makes a design not only functional but profoundly resonant on a psychological level. This is a feat that aligns him with the pantheon of great geniuses throughout history. His work echoes the transformative impact of the greatest human inventions, standing as a testament to human creativity and vision.

Consider the wheel, often lauded as mankind’s most significant invention. While the wheel was undoubtedly a pivotal point in our technological evolution, what Musk has achieved with the Cybertruck is arguably more profound. He has not just created a tool for transportation; he has crafted an icon that speaks to the deepest aspirations and drives of human beings. It embodies strength, resilience, and the relentless pursuit of innovation—qualities that have propelled humanity forward since the dawn of civilization.

In this light, the Cybertruck is more than just a triumph of engineering; it is a beacon of human achievement. It symbolizes our unyielding quest for progress and our innate desire to imprint our dreams onto the fabric of reality. Elon Musk, in realizing this vision, has not only secured his place among the great minds of our era but has also provided a tangible representation of what humanity is capable of achieving when it dares to transcend the boundaries of the conventional and the mundane.

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saltesc 19 points 3 years ago

I'm convinced this account's a persona troll. No one can be this moronic and annoying unintentionally. I could be wrong, though, and maybe they do indeed get punched in the face three to four times daily.

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negativenull 24 points 3 years ago

Pretty sure it's chatgpt generated as well

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jordanpeterson 7 points 3 years ago

In the realm of discerning truth from fiction, particularly in the pervasive echo chamber surrounding figures like Elon Musk, my role isn't merely that of an observer or a passive participant. I actively engage in the moderation of a forum known as /c/EnoughMuskSpam. This endeavor is, in itself, an intricate dance with nuance, an attempt to sift through the overwhelming barrage of information and disinformation, to bring forth a more balanced and nuanced perspective. It's a task that demands a keen eye for detail and an unwavering commitment to the pursuit of what is genuine and true in the midst of a torrent of unfiltered and often biased discourse.

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StereoTrespasser 5 points 3 years ago

That's fine if it's a troll account, but the problem is that it's not even funny.

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Ilovethebomb 1 point 3 years ago

You think?

Trolling Lemmy users issue like shooting fish in a barrel.

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spezz 15 points 3 years ago

Delicious pasta

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KnightontheSun 9 points 3 years ago

That might just fit on the truck's bumper-sticker!

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TheBat 2 points 3 years ago

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jordanpeterson 2 points 2 years ago

Yes!

🦞

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TWeaK 22 points 3 years ago

The Satisfactory version is far better, square wheels and all.

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Chocrates 17 points 3 years ago

There was reporting recently that the engineers hated it so much they designed a reasonable one in their free time

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BlinkerFluid 13 points 3 years ago

The rumor is that it was scribbled on a piece of paper as an idea and the engineers were forced to make it verbatim.

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Drusenija 10 points 3 years ago

So does this count as another "Simpsons predicted this" moment after Homer basically does the same thing?

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takeda 7 points 3 years ago

Gentlemen, we are successful in getting all the woke leftists salivating on our shit, but we need also produce something for the real men. And since I'm one of them this is the people like me would want.

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KnightontheSun 11 points 3 years ago

If someone rolled up in that, I'd not consider them anything but a "real sucker".

"A weak man's idea of a strong man" comes to mind.

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June -8 points 3 years ago

Posted this elsewhere, but I asked ChatGPT who designed it and here’s what it said (emphasis mine):

The Tesla Cybertruck was primarily designed by Franz von Holzhausen, Tesla's Chief Designer. Von Holzhausen has been responsible for the design of several Tesla models, including the Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y. The Cybertruck, known for its unique, futuristic, and angular design, represents a significant departure from traditional truck designs and reflects von Holzhausen's innovative approach to vehicle design. Elon Musk, Tesla's CEO, also played a significant role in the conceptualization and design direction of the Cybertruck.

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vanontom 6 points 3 years ago

Technically, not wrong. It's worth noting that Cybertruck is shockingly different from Von Holzhausen's previous work, which all share sleek, modern designs and principles (dare I say critically-acclaimed, beautiful). I think it's obvious there was heavy "outside influence" for the truck (as emphasized), and the timing also lines up with Musk's growing (untreated, public) mental illnesses.

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June 4 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I’d hoped my point was clear that Musk designed this truck. It’s obvious that Von Holzhausen wasn’t given much flexibility because no designer in their right mind, especially one that designed the Models, S, X, and 3 (which I agree are good looking cars), would design this thing. This has Musk stamped all over it with its impractical design and wildly abrasive aesthetic.

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Klear 1 point 3 years ago

I thought your point was "Look at what random snippets a language model collected off the internet".

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oakey66 141 points 3 years ago

Because everything musk does is basically bullshit.

$30k Tesla
Tesla semi
Cybertuck 4 years late
Full autonomous driving
Hyperloop

https://elonmusk.today/

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Hotzilla 38 points 3 years ago

He is vaporware sales man, if you trust anything he says, you are a fool.

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Immersive_Matthew 18 points 3 years ago

Even SpaceX is missing targets in a big way.

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Rooskie91 20 points 3 years ago

SpaceX is his only successful project, and that's because it has a defense contract.

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Immersive_Matthew 1 point 3 years ago

I am not so sure it is successful though. They are missing their targets by years left right and center and even recently admitted they will not be ready for NASA’s Artemis Project. https://www.space.com/...

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homesnatch 25 points 3 years ago

A company can miss targets and still be extremely successful if you look at the body of work. SpaceX absolutely dominates the space launch industry, there's nobody close.

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girthero 21 points 3 years ago

They've launched the Falcon 9 88 times this year dwarfing the nearest launch provider 10 to 1... They're doing fine.

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ikidd 15 points 3 years ago

Spacex is a massive success, with little thanks to Musk. Those engineers are fucking rock stars.

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Immersive_Matthew -2 points 3 years ago

If you mean “some” technical success…I would agree.

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afraid_of_zombies 3 points 3 years ago

What is a lot in your mind? Going from nothing to biggest rocket in human history and fully reusable in 20 years.

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JustZ 9 points 3 years ago

Great website. Dude is a total fraud.

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DJDarren 9 points 3 years ago

Also, the Roadster. Announced six years ago, supposedly launching next year, but we'll see...

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skyspydude1 5 points 3 years ago

You mean the 2020 Roadster they took millions on deposits for?

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DJDarren 2 points 3 years ago

Yes, that one.

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dog_ 9 points 3 years ago

I just found a new favorite website.

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weew 6 points 3 years ago

wow we found someone who WANTS more Musk spam...

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Hamartiogonic 8 points 3 years ago

Hey, Trump spam was fun too while it lasted. It’s just that you need to watch that dumpster fire from a safe distance. Something like 5000 km should be fine.

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dog_ 2 points 3 years ago

I mean I don't care to be honest. If I see something about Elon, it doesn't mean I have to look at it.

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BilboBargains 70 points 3 years ago

Who would have thought making a chassis out of a material that is denser than mild steel would result in a vehicle that is heavier? It's a truck, horrible aero drag and rolling resistance from the get go. Difficult to imagine a worse target for an EV project.

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TangledHyphae 60 points 3 years ago

The fact that he has all of his engineers afraid to tell him his ideas are terrible speaks volumes about his narcissism.

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Duamerthrax 61 points 3 years ago

The ones who spoke up were fired. The ones remaining dont care as long as they get their paycheck.

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shasta 10 points 3 years ago

Good. At least someone is benefitting

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killeronthecorner 2 points 3 years ago

A description of every Elon business

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afraid_of_zombies 2 points 3 years ago

Part of the reason why I don't leave where I work now. I speak my mind.

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jaidyn999 2 points 3 years ago

It has a conventional chassis. Only the panels are SS.

The extra weight is entirely due to the weight of the batteries.

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BilboBargains 1 point 3 years ago

Good to know.

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Rocketpoweredgorilla 64 points 3 years ago

Has anyone tossed a brick at the windows yet? Or has that debacle been swept under the rug?

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Cornpop 94 points 3 years ago

It was a steel ball. They recreated the event with the same guy at the delivery event, but this time with a baseball and the dude gave it the most obvious limp wristed toss, it was incredibly cringe I highly recommend you seek that clip out because it’s absolutely hilarious.

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friend_of_satan 62 points 3 years ago

God, that was worse than I expected. https://youtu.be/IUCMGB2AGaE

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314xel 18 points 3 years ago

Lol, Franz is a wimp.

"So anyway, the glass is tough, basically". Sure Elon, we'll take your word for it. Is this how they test their rockets, too?

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wtfeweguys 1 point 3 years ago

Tbf the rockets seem to work. Not easy to fake that.

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Fermion 9 points 3 years ago

I want to see large gravel chunks at 80mph not a baseball at 25.

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ugh 4 points 3 years ago

My 1995 truck could handle that throw, but sure, we'll call it "innovation"

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Petter1 2 points 3 years ago

🤣🤣🤣

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MotoAsh 15 points 3 years ago

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Cornpop 7 points 3 years ago

Admittedly car windows are just strong as fuck from the outside due to their curve and construction, and they did throw the metal ball hard at the glass before when practicing for the announcement event and it bounced right off.

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agent_flounder 6 points 3 years ago

Come to think of it, how much do Cybertruck windows curve?

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FlyingSquid 3 points 3 years ago

If they were smart about it, they would have tried it out once before doing it in public to see if it worked.

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PizzasDontWearCapes 3 points 3 years ago

Was it a baseball? It bounced quite a bit and looked a lot like a light rubber ball

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Cornpop 2 points 3 years ago

Edit: “baseball”

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FlyingSquid 2 points 3 years ago

That was exactly my thought when I saw it. Baseballs don't bounce like that normally.

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saltesc 60 points 3 years ago

some customers have expressed their disappointment in online forums.

Wow. That's brave of them. Throwaways, I assume.

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MaxVoltage 38 points 3 years ago

you can tell they arent truck people

Normal truck people Love paying more for Less

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A7thStone 11 points 3 years ago

I see you've noticed the parking lot princesses that truck guys seen to modify now.

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Sensitivezombie 58 points 3 years ago

Am I the only one who thinks this is ugly as fuck?

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daq 22 points 3 years ago

I recently saw one in the wild and it's even uglier in person than it was in pictures. For a second I thought someone DIYed that nasty looking car; nope, actual designers puked that thing out.

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TheIllustrativeMan 7 points 3 years ago

No designers involved, unless you think Elon is a designer. The whole Tesla design studio revolted over having to work on it. They designed something else, which of course Elon refused. I wouldn't at all be surprised if it was engineered so the other option can be swapped in when this one flops.

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rab 20 points 3 years ago

Yes literally only you

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anon_8675309 16 points 3 years ago

Yes. Everyone else thinks it’s the bestly engineered and designed vehicle that’s ever been made.

/s

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Hamartiogonic 9 points 3 years ago

Am I the only one who initially thought this was just some elaborate Elon meme, but is now shocked to find that he actually built this abomination?

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Bearsquad 4 points 3 years ago

Nah, i think most people think it's ugly as fuck, because it is! And still I like the aesthetic? Or at least the idea of it.

For once, it's committed to the bit. Very few compromises were made on the looks, and those to comply with regulatory standards, not to make it more appealing. I'm a world where most cars look kinda the same, that counts something.

It's not trying to be beautiful. It's trying to be unique, divisive, to make you think "what is THAT thing??" whenever you encounter one, and on that grounds I'd say it succeeds.

However this kind of looks suffer greatly from the soddy build quality. If you are going for pure straight lines and angles you better make sure they are perfect, because of they are not people are going to notice and it's going to spoil the effect.

So, in summary, cool idea but poor execution, perhaps if Elon had let his designers do their work they could have pulled it off. Also Hyundai did better but with more compromises.

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dog_ 2 points 3 years ago

Nope

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Tygr 58 points 3 years ago

Every day with the Elon spam. It’s infected Lemmy.

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evranch 29 points 3 years ago

That's a bit much, isn't it? It's a brand new weird-ass truck, people are going to talk about it. And the article isn't exactly celebrating it.

If this article was about a new car from another brand, would you complain about it? I thought we wanted more content on this platform. Or we could just stick to memes I guess...

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IHadTwoCows -16 points 3 years ago

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FlyingSquid 10 points 3 years ago

Tesla isnt a car company

What do they sell, pizza?

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IHadTwoCows -2 points 3 years ago

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Joelk111 26 points 3 years ago

I'd agree that I see way too much Elon stuff on my lemmy feed. This one I'm more interested in than 99% of the others. Maybe it's just cause I'm a gear head, but I'll sure as heck take it over the 10 X (formerly known as Twitter) "news" articles that I scrolled past to get here. News in quotes because it is no longer news that X (more commonly known as Twitter) and its owner are dumb.

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kaffiene 1 point 3 years ago

I find that a don't sprain my thumb scrolling over something that I don't want to read

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Joelk111 1 point 3 years ago

The oldest and lamest justification for having shitty and repetitive content.

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kaffiene 2 points 3 years ago

Choose a different platform them. Or use a filter. Or I dunno fucking whine about other people discussing what interests them.

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kaffiene 9 points 3 years ago

Use a filter. Other people want to talk

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nutsack -5 points 3 years ago

no get out

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kaffiene 4 points 3 years ago

Well, that's me told =)

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Zugyuk 7 points 3 years ago

It resists antibiotics, there's nothing we can do.

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SoleInvictus 5 points 3 years ago

It's his broke mind virus. It's sometimes fascinating but I'm mostly over his antics.

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XenoK 2 points 3 years ago

For some reason, all Lemmings seem to have a constant hate boner for him. I don't like him, but this is just taking it to a whole new level...

2025 edit: I would like to retract my previous statement. I get it now.

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Thorny_Insight 3 points 3 years ago

There's plenty of people I don't like and I spend basically no time thinking about them. Why these people let Elon live rent free in their minds is beyond me. Not a day goes by without a thread about him on the front page along with the most predictable comment section imaginable. Apparently the glue holding Lemmy together is the mutual hatred of certain things and people. That's just sad. We're giving them what every asshole in the world desires the most; attention.

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matter 2 points 3 years ago

Ok, but not every random asshole is the richest guy in the world...

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Thorny_Insight 1 point 3 years ago

And what does that have to do with anything?

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kaffiene 0 points 3 years ago

And every day someone posts about how everyone else posts about something that they, personally are not interested in. I guess everyone else is wrong

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FlyingSquid 3 points 3 years ago

When he agrees with someone who says that people like me are trying to destroy white people (insinuating Jews aren't even white), I think "a constant hate boner" is appropriate.

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Dark_Arc 1 point 3 years ago

I feel like lemmy needs excluded word filters so you can just say hide any post that includes "Elon Musk"

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TheGreenGolem 8 points 3 years ago

Sync can do that.

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Dark_Arc 2 points 3 years ago

Oh? I'm actually using sync primarily and didn't know that 😂

It would be nice if it was on the server side so the list just worked regardless of client though

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YurkshireLad 48 points 3 years ago

You really don’t want to be a pedestrian crossing the road in front of one of these. Just in case.

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Imgonnatrythis 42 points 3 years ago

Oh, you don't want to be a pedestrian in the US period. That's a very dangerous activity.

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Username02 23 points 3 years ago

You don't want to be in US.

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3ntranced 4 points 3 years ago

You don't want to be.

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markr 3 points 3 years ago

It’s not a choice. You are until you aren’t.

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Lev_Astov 2 points 3 years ago

You don't want.

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Garbanzo 4 points 3 years ago

It's fine, I've got my gun

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AphoticDev 44 points 3 years ago

All these problems, and it's ugly as hell to boot.

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ItsMeSpez 12 points 3 years ago

The PT Cruiser has been dethroned.

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hexabs 1 point 3 years ago

HEY! You're the guy who I'm supposed to fuck

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joel_feila -9 points 3 years ago

God bless they are trying. I;m fro mthe south us do god bless is basic calling someone really dumb.

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helenslunch 41 points 3 years ago

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rsuri 11 points 3 years ago

My guess is the author first calculated how much less range, in which case the bigger number is the denominator, then mistakenly did the same for how much more money, so (61k-40k)/61k ~= 30%

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bjorney 9 points 3 years ago

Author is bad at math. 50% range reduction and a 50% base cost increase. The upgraded model has a 30% range reduction for a 100% cost increase

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RememberTheApollo_ 35 points 3 years ago

Modern day DMC DeLorean. All the disappointment and the crazy CEO to go along with it. Maybe when Tesla folds up they can get a movie made about the truck like Back to the Future. Wonder what the movie will be called?

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kaffiene 41 points 3 years ago

Back to the Emerald Mine

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UristMcHolland 29 points 3 years ago

Call the movie "Back to the Stoneage". Then send a tech billionaire to the past where nobody gives a fuck about them and they have to work to survive for the first time in their pathetic lives.

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Lianodel 24 points 3 years ago

If they have to work to survive, maybe any time from the 1800s on would work. You imagine a genius from the modern day, with all his knowledge, could blow the competition out of the water, create a one-man technological revolution, and radically change the course of human events!

...until you realize he's not actually a genius. He's a dumbass. He just owned capital that other people used to do things. So if you remove him from his money and even name recognition, he's just some loser who keeps asking if ketamine has been invented yet.

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KISSmyOS 10 points 3 years ago

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afraid_of_zombies 3 points 3 years ago

There was a Twilight Zone episode like that.

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FlyingSquid 6 points 3 years ago

Can we make it a documentary about sending Elon and a bunch of other tech billionaires to Mars? That way we can enjoy it when their ship breaks up and they all die in space.

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creamed_eels 6 points 3 years ago

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kaffiene 4 points 3 years ago

I like this. If they make it to Mars they get a survival habitat where we can vote them off, one by one

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FlyingSquid 4 points 3 years ago

I'd say the Discovery Channel could show it, but I definitely want David Zaslav on that ship, so who would put it on there?

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FlyingSquid 6 points 3 years ago

Maybe we can catch him in a cocaine deal too.

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gens 3 points 3 years ago

Back to PS1 N64.

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OldWoodFrame 31 points 3 years ago

Seems like at best its almost on par with the F-150 Lightning for the fanboys...it's just $30k more.

Seriously if you're a fan boy just buy the F-150Lightning and a Model 3 and you'll save money.

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A7thStone 18 points 3 years ago

But the lightning has some space to haul things.

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MonkderZweite 30 points 3 years ago

Who expected more from a stainless steel chassis? Stuff is heavy and expensive.

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jaidyn999 1 point 3 years ago

The chassis is ordinary carbon steel.

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MonkderZweite 1 point 3 years ago

I think we have a different understanding of "chassis"?

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drmeanfeel 28 points 3 years ago

You know this headline is fake because Cybertruck fan boys would never ever act like it's anything but a 100% perfect personal space shuttle + superiority license

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negativeyoda 4 points 3 years ago

BUT YOU CAN SHOOT IT WITH A BOW AN ARROW.

Checkmate, hater

/s if it's not completely fucking obvious

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cpw 27 points 3 years ago

The mkbhd first impressions were fascinating for what he didn't say. I'm guessing that he didn't want to burn the good times he has with Tesla so he really seemed to be trying to positively spin everything. At least, that's my interpretation. The mirrors were particularly.. https://youtu.be/XxOh12Uhg08?si=jlfuFU70v5cGd8HV

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silentknyght 22 points 3 years ago

Anything in particular? I'm not great at understanding things that aren't said.

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treadful 23 points 3 years ago

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Immersive_Matthew 8 points 3 years ago

That is what all YouTubers do as they do not want to bite the hand that feeds them.

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prole 6 points 3 years ago

To be fair, it's the same thing that happened to our news. It's become commoditized, and now so-called "journalists" are terrified of asking good questions for fear of losing access.

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madcaesar 6 points 3 years ago

I've stopped watching his channel long time ago, he's not a reviewer, he's a shill. Good on him for making bank, but his opinion is worthless.

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hOrni -1 points 3 years ago

I'm dying laughing. It has a roller shutter on the back. Like I have on my windows. I have cybertruck technology in my home.

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Lev_Astov 2 points 3 years ago

Why is that funny? That's actually a nice idea.

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hOrni 0 points 3 years ago

I think it looks cheap and ugly. And there is no chance it will withstand the elements. It's gonna leak and get moldy.

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Viper_NZ 25 points 3 years ago

the dangerous brake lights are more of a concern to me than the cost and range.

This thing is so far behind schedule and they’re failing at the basics.

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XeroxCool 4 points 3 years ago

Gotta follow code, center brake must be distinct from all other lights... Should we make a separate chmsl then? Nah, lightbar go brrrrt and FMVSS 108 can ligma.

Really though, I wouldn't mind this lighting choice as much if the lower brake lights were bigger and the c"hm"sl was actually brighter. Dedicate another 8 square inches to additional brake lighting, damn it

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afraid_of_zombies 2 points 3 years ago

Can you explain it to me? I still don't get it.

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nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN 9 points 3 years ago

There is less light during braking instead of more, or brighter.

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afraid_of_zombies 1 point 3 years ago

Why?

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nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN 4 points 3 years ago

In order to make the break light visibly stand out from the light bar that goes across the back of the car, they turn off two sections of the bar on the left and right of the centre, leaving a portion of the light bar lighted in the centre.

Normally car manufacturers treat the light bar as a running light, and they add a seperate 'third' brakelight. Clearly at Tesla they didn't want to alter the design, and this weird solution fits the wording of the government mandate. It doesn't fit the spirit, but they got away with it.

And it's ironic because in every other bit of safety, like crash protection, rollover protection. Tesla is a leader in the market, their cars are incredibly safe. Tesla really cares about you when you bought a car, they don't really care about safety in general. Sums up Musks attitude.

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Ab_intra 24 points 3 years ago

It also look like a... Trash can lol.

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KnightontheSun 14 points 3 years ago

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snippyfulcrum 5 points 3 years ago

I got a 2023 Hyundai Elantra Limited earlier this year and I actually love what they've done with it. It looks so sleek to me, especially in black.

I didn't care for previous iterations of the Elantra. Dont get me wrong - they weren't ugly. They just looked like standard car. Not bad just kinda bland. The newer style has personality, stands out much more and in a good way in my opinion.

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A7thStone 24 points 3 years ago

Was elongated muskrat trying to make the ugliest thing on the road? It makes the Pontiac Aztec look pretty.

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DemBoSain 15 points 3 years ago

Deloreans are cool and made from stainless steel
?
Profit

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Joelk111 15 points 3 years ago

Unironically enough, while DeLoreans are cool, they're also kinda crappy vehicles.

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madcaesar 5 points 3 years ago

They are pure shite 😂 but they have a special place in our hearts because of 88 MPH!

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burrito 5 points 3 years ago

They had to modify the vehicle for the movie as the stock speedometer in the delorean only went to 85 mph.

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Destraight 5 points 3 years ago

Well that's your opinion, I still think the Aztec looks ugly. Great camping vehicle though.

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IHadTwoCows 5 points 3 years ago

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prole 4 points 3 years ago

The world just wasn't ready for it yet.

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A7thStone 1 point 3 years ago

I agree it was an amazing vehicle. Why else would they have reused the rear differential for the solstice/sky, but it is still butt ugly.

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laurelraven 4 points 3 years ago

That's funny, I said almost the exact same thing about it

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gnate 0 points 3 years ago

Every Tesla model has been uglier than the last. (Especially thanks to Elon, but really ever since it was Lotus based.)

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stealth_cookies 13 points 3 years ago

To be fair, it is REALLY hard to follow up when your industrial design starting point is a Lotus.

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hushable 6 points 3 years ago

incidentally I just saw a roadster 1 yesterday, gorgeous car. But it's just a rebadged Lotus Elise

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Copythis 24 points 3 years ago

I watched the mkbhd video on it.

It was like he was trying to make everything sound cool, even though he knows it's a disappointment.

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sucricdrawkcab 16 points 3 years ago

I'm glad I'm not the only person who felt that vibe from it. I could feel the new tech being reviewed hype, but he wasn't totally into it. When he stood on the trunk I could totally see he was giving his all.

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Alfredo_DisguidoAlCazzo 16 points 3 years ago

I always have this kind of feeljng about mkbhd. In general he is a tech enthusiast but technically he knows very little IMO.

Often times he goes a bit too much out of his way to justify corpo choices

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aluminium 8 points 3 years ago

yep, his videos in terms of actual information are very shallow.

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MrScottyTay 3 points 3 years ago

The retro series he did about old cameras and gameboys and stuff was really good though. But new tech is usually shallow i feel.

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Copythis 2 points 3 years ago

A tech enthusiast will have all the smart devices in their house.

Somebody that works in tech will shoot the microwave if it beeps when it's not supposed to.

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rab 5 points 3 years ago

Who cares what mkbhd thinks, he knows nothing about cars

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viking 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah I had to fast forward through that video, it just sounds like an ad. Wasn't impressed by a long shot.

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Copythis 1 point 3 years ago

Oh I fully understand that. I am a huge car enthusiast, I see right through it

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TransplantedSconie 23 points 3 years ago

Ladies and gentlemen. The car built for the average man

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RaincoatsGeorge 11 points 3 years ago

When I saw the cybertruck for the first time this is all I could think about. It's like he's memelording at the highest level. If he did it on purpose that is. He didn't. And the Simpsons accurately captured a thing yet again. Like having president trump on an episode.

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lemann 5 points 3 years ago

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TransplantedSconie 6 points 3 years ago

That right bloody bastard! shakes fist

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Got_Bent 2 points 3 years ago

It's all I've been thinking of since I first saw this monstrosity. And the sticker price ain't too far off eighty two thousand dollars!

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BeardedGingerWonder 21 points 3 years ago

The damn thing looks like it was rendered in the original quake engine. Fucking quake rally car.

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capital 14 points 3 years ago

Low poly lookin’ mother fucker

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thelastknowngod 21 points 3 years ago

It's a big, stupid truck but so is every other truck it's competing against. It's got poor visibility but so does every other truck/suv being sold in America. The cheapest option doesn't have the longest range but it's still longer than the average person would realistically drive in a day. It can't haul much but the overwhelming majority of people driving trucks in America aren't towing or hauling things on a day to day basis.. The people doing real work buy vans or have special purpose trucks.

The steering geometry seems nice and the rear wheel steering is interesting. Those seem like the only major positives though.

It's not as bad as everyone seems to be making it out to be but it's obviously still a dumb car that shouldn't exist. That's all cars though really.

EDIT: Since the front windshield is flat, I assume its cheaper to replace than typical curved windshields? No idea though.. Might be talking out of my ass.

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Phrodo_00 22 points 3 years ago

It's got poor visibility but so does every other truck/suv being sold in America.

Maybe, but the cyber truck has especially bad rear visibility. Worse.than any of its competitors

but it's still longer than the average person would realistically drive in a day.

I must be a special, fantasy person that does road trips with 700mi or longer drives

Not to mention it's 3000 kilos. They really need to start adding vehicle weight limits to licenses. The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.

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Anti_Face_Weapon 11 points 3 years ago

3 megagrams is crazy for a vehicle like this. With the high torque electric wheels, they will be very hard on asphalt.

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AnarchistsForDemocracy 11 points 3 years ago

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Anti_Face_Weapon 6 points 3 years ago

Knee slapper

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thelastknowngod 2 points 3 years ago

I must be a special, fantasy person that does road trips with 700mi or longer drives

Assuming you have the ability to drive at a perfect, ideal, consistent 80mph 700miles is 8h45m of driving. You aren't going to stop for a bathroom break in 8 hours?

200 miles will likely give you 3.5 or so behind the wheel. Take a break and stretch your legs.. It's better for your health anyway than sitting for so long.

Not to mention it's 3000 kilos. They really need to start adding vehicle weight limits to licenses. The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.

Yeah agreed but that's a different conversation unrelated to this thing.

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Anti_Face_Weapon 8 points 3 years ago

How is it unrelated? Are we not all discussing the specs of the vehicle? If weight is not a spec worth of discussion then I surely do not know what is.

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daed 4 points 3 years ago

Yeah, long haul tractor/trailer drivers don't do 700mi a day. Possible for someone driving non-commercially, absolutely, but at the very least unwise, an outlier use case, and a poor argument here.

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jaidyn999 1 point 3 years ago

Maybe, but the cyber truck has especially bad rear visibility. Worse.than any of its competitors

Worse than a van ? No.

Not to mention it’s 3000 kilos.

A model X weighs 2.3 t. Because of the batteries.

An F150 Lightning weighs 3 tonnes and its bed is made from aluminium.

The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.

In the US you can drive a rigid truck of almost any size on a bog standard car licence. A 6 t truck with a capacity of 40 t if you want. GM sells an Isuzu cab forward truck (normally with a mildly tuned diesel four) with a frigging massive petrol V8.

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jordanlund 19 points 3 years ago

I don't see how anyone could take it seriously when the introduction was to show how unbreakable the windows were.

https://youtu.be/BqGf8pqCZi0

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PizzasDontWearCapes 3 points 3 years ago

The ball they used to demo it again this time probably wouldn't have broken a pair of reading glasses

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jordanlund 2 points 3 years ago

Not when you throw it that way... :)

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Turious 18 points 3 years ago

From the looks of the crash test results, I might have to buy one of these to get in on the lawsuits that will come from those who are maimed in accidents with them.

I value my bones too much to bother doing that. But seriously, a lot of people are gonna get hurt.

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dual_sport_dork 21 points 3 years ago

I'm pretty sure I read it's already been determined not to be road legal in the EU, specifically due to massively and flagrantly failing any and all pedestrian safety regulations over there.

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Garbanzo 7 points 3 years ago

Why not just make the entire environment hostile so there aren't pedestrians to worry about in the first place? Works for us.

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Xenon 15 points 3 years ago

This doesn't look like a car nor a truck it's a combat vehicle. Seriously, who's impressed by Elon's shooting and steel ball demonstrations? In what kind of failed state do these Tesla customers live? With a tank hull for a frame and sharp edges all around this looks like a serious safety hazard for passengers and especially pedestrians outside the car.

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Chocrates 14 points 3 years ago

Don't forget in this apocalypse you have reliable charging infrastructure

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JudahBenHur 15 points 3 years ago

dont tell dale that gasoline goes bad in 3-6 months, ethanol blends in 4-6.

unless someone fires up an oil refinery no one's driving shit.

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Madison420 10 points 3 years ago

Wood gasification, people will be driving it'll just look like the Beverly hillbillies come to town rather than madmax.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator

And yes you can run a car on poop.

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CarbonIceDragon 6 points 3 years ago

Maybe a handful could cobble together a steam powered vehicle like they made during the early days of cars, and drive around at relatively low speed on anything that will burn?

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Peppycito 5 points 3 years ago

We've been watching the Last Man On Earth and my family is getting sick of me pointing that out.

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FlyingSquid 2 points 3 years ago

That show went downhill for me really fast.

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A7thStone 4 points 3 years ago

That's not entirely true. I've fired up my bike with two year old gasoline in the tank, and larger quantities will last longer than the 3l that was left in my tank.

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JudahBenHur 4 points 3 years ago

yes, there are some variables, and if you had old gasoline, adding fresh on top is 100％ the right hing to do. It dilutes it into the new, more combustable fuel

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Ilovethebomb 6 points 3 years ago

After a year or two, it would be easier to get an off grid system going than finding or making fuel a modern vehicle would run on.

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Wrench 10 points 3 years ago

Hummers were a thing. I can easily see those same people buying this.

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Ilovethebomb 8 points 3 years ago

In what kind of failed state do these Tesla customers live?

South Africa.

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M137 3 points 3 years ago

Are you not aware of people in general? MANY think it's "cool as fuck" and those demonstrations bought them more than any sales tactic other car makers use. Imagine the stereotype of cavemen going "strong thing good, make woman want me, me want strong thing," and you got a good idea of a disturbing large part of humanity. That shit works extremely well for a lot of people.

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Caligvla 13 points 3 years ago

Why is this thing so goddamn ugly? It's like the designers took all the worst sci-fi vehicles from movies and smushed them into one.

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User_4272894 3 points 3 years ago

I was having this same conversation the other day. Have you ever seen that picture where different people involved in the creation of the video game Kirby draw the title character? Two look really good, and the rest are awkward blobs that only look like Kirby because of the power of suggestion.

Anyway, I genuinely think a team of Tesla employees (independent of Musk) were talking about building a truck, and all took turns drawing something while pulling together numbers before the pitch to Musk. As a joke, the design team mocked up the worst sketch in 3D, and Musk accidentally saw the design in the Slack chat history and demanded it.

Either that, or some sort of "have your kid draw the next Tesla" employee contest, and the design teams modeled the funniest ones as actual cars for the company newsletter. Like those companies that'll turn your kid's drawings into real life stuffed toys.

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currycourier 4 points 3 years ago

I think Elon might have wanted to design a car himself so he came up with this or something

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vsh -7 points 3 years ago

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PizzasDontWearCapes 4 points 3 years ago

It's what people thought modernity would look like back in the 70's and 80's - all function and no form

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vsh 0 points 3 years ago

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skyspydude1 2 points 3 years ago

Nah, something like the IONIQ5 handles the modern "low-poly" look 1000x better than the cYbErTrUcK does.

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FlyingSquid 0 points 3 years ago

It looks like something from a bad 1980s post-apocalyptic movie.

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June -10 points 3 years ago

I asked ChatGPT who designed this thing, and I think this makes it clear why it’s so ugly (bold added by me):

The Tesla Cybertruck was primarily designed by Franz von Holzhausen, Tesla's Chief Designer. Von Holzhausen has been responsible for the design of several Tesla models, including the Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y. The Cybertruck, known for its unique, futuristic, and angular design, represents a significant departure from traditional truck designs and reflects von Holzhausen's innovative approach to vehicle design. Elon Musk, Tesla's CEO, also played a significant role in the conceptualization and design direction of the Cybertruck.

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MrSqueezles 13 points 3 years ago

The article talking about a Cybertruck racing a Porsche

Electric motors accelerate cars faster than ones with internal combustion engines, so this wasn’t a fair fight.

Nobody's permitted to compare electric cars with internal combustion because electric is faster? I don't understand the logic.

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afraid_of_zombies 9 points 3 years ago

Because it isn't a real brag. It is an apple to oranges comparison.

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Abnorc 3 points 3 years ago

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100_percent_a_bot 1 point 3 years ago

By that line of reasoning it would be equally valid to compare the top speeds of the vehicles. Imo both are a bit silly, since the reason for certain advantages/disadvantages are mostly the limitations of the respective technology.

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Perkele 6 points 3 years ago

To be fair. They compared the base version 911 to the top of the line CT.

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Techmaster 13 points 3 years ago

It's shaped like the 1980s Dust Buster.

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Peppycito 6 points 3 years ago

Probably with a similarly awesome battery.

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sj_zero 12 points 3 years ago

I feel like this whole article is based on a false premise.

Go to a dealership right now, and try to find any new truck for $36,000. On paper you might be able to get the lowest base model, but in reality good luck with that.

I just checked the dealership near me, and the lowest price for a new vehicle of any kind is 39,400CAD or about 28,000USD. The lowest priced new truck is 66,500CDN, or about 49,300USD.

That's just what the world looks like now thanks to inflation. And that's not a vehicle using expensive battery technology, and that's not a vehicle made out of expensive, difficult to manufacture with stainless steel, it's just the cheapest standard truck at the dealership.

Really, it looks like the cybertruck is about bang on with prices for other EV trucks that aren't made out of entirely stainless steel. Considering that Tesla isn't a budget brand, that doesn't seem unreasonable. Nobody at Tesla is psychic, they couldn't have predicted super high inflation sparked in part due to policies enacted due to a global pandemic, so of course prices rose.

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Thorny_Insight 10 points 3 years ago

I hate the design a little less now than when it was first revealed. Will reserve my judgement untill I see one in person

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stealth_cookies 2 points 3 years ago

I still hate how it looks, and I'm pretty sure I'll be even more disappointed in it once I see one in person.

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nxdefiant 1 point 3 years ago

I'd drive an actual dumpster if it was electric and was rated for 500 EPA miles. I'm more disappointed that Tesla had four years to perfect the battery tech to make this possible and failed, after promising that they were practically done.

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Destraight 8 points 3 years ago

Oh wow, it's actually made from stainless steel and not some shitty mild steel. I should get me one, this would be a lifesaver in Michigan

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ikidd 16 points 3 years ago

Get a DeLorean; it would be more off road capable.

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FlyingSquid 3 points 3 years ago

Until you got a dent and had to replace an entire panel at a huge cost.

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nxdefiant 7 points 3 years ago

Or just treat it like a real truck and give zero fucks about the dents.

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Algaroth 8 points 3 years ago

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nxdefiant 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah, it's incredibly disappointing that the bed is only 4x6 at the bottom. I can't find any info for the dimensions at the top of the box, if that makes sense. Normal trucks have a much wider bed above the wheel wells for wider things like mattresses or awkwardly shaped things like kayaks.

The 2500lb payload is on par for a standard pickup, but with a back bed wall shaped like ¿, it's difficult to even know what would fit or how well.

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DJDarren 3 points 3 years ago

So, very similar to many other trucks then.

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FlyingSquid 4 points 3 years ago

Anyone who is going to spend that much on a truck is going to care about the dents.

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skyspydude1 3 points 3 years ago

Let's be real, if you want an EV and a real truck, you're going to buy an F-150 Lightning, Silverado EV, or RAM EV and get a truck that's at least somewhat compatible with normal truck accessories, and has a service network that's not going to just offer you Uber credits when you need to get to a jobsite

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jaidyn999 1 point 3 years ago

Until you got a dent and had to replace an entire panel at a huge cost.

What are on about ? You can work SS, its not white cast iron or anything.

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FlyingSquid 0 points 3 years ago

This is what I am on about- https://www.autoblog.com/...

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nutsack -2 points 3 years ago

dents are bad ass don't be a pussy

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FlyingSquid 9 points 3 years ago

"My $60,000 truck has a dent in it! Now it's bad ass!" -- No one.

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BearOfaTime 5 points 3 years ago

Not a bad point.

My truck was nowhere near that much, even new (I always buy used), but it's a truck, dents happen. Part of why I'd never pay that much or buy new.

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nxdefiant 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah the point is that if you care about denting it, something is wrong with your choice of tools, not the tool you chose.

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kiwifoxtrot -1 points 3 years ago

Stainless steel still rusts when exposed to salt and water.

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Destraight 1 point 3 years ago

Prove it

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kiwifoxtrot 1 point 3 years ago

The stainless in the cyber truck is 301, which is less corrosion resistant than 304 or 316. You can read all about stainless corrosion in Appendix A.

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kaffiene 8 points 3 years ago

And you can bet that the specs are "best case" "ideal conditions" as well. The reality will be worse still

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AnUnusualRelic 6 points 3 years ago

Each time I see a picture of this thing, it looks uglier than the last time. And it was pretty bad to begin with.

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wrinkletip 6 points 3 years ago

Isn't this true for most cars announced way ahead of their time?

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MrSqueezles 2 points 3 years ago

Sure,yeah. Most cars don't take pre-orders with down payments.

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diffcalculus 1 point 3 years ago

A refundable $250 != Down payment

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JCreazy 6 points 3 years ago

Don't tell the people on the YouTube comment section on the recent Cyber truck video. So much shilling.

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ohlaph 6 points 3 years ago

A true waste of money, shocker!

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OrangeCorvus 5 points 3 years ago

Dacia just announced the new Duster, looks pretty great and it starts at under 20.000€, that car got me excited. This car is s POS.

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Petter1 3 points 3 years ago

I drive the dacia spring electric 😄 it’s best value for my needs

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LazaroFilm 3 points 3 years ago

I love the Tesla lines of all the other cars they make. I always hated the sharp corners of the cyber truck

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morriscox 2 points 3 years ago

Is it a truck? Or a car?

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Frozengyro 20 points 3 years ago

It's a piece of shit

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glowie 2 points 3 years ago

Cybercuck superfan here

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poopiddy 1 point 3 years ago

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ejfjdjdnendnen 1 point 3 years ago

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TheHotze 1 point 3 years ago

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Chocrates 0 points 3 years ago

🤣🤣

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MacNCheezus -7 points 3 years ago

Elon Musk bad! Upvotes pls

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