other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter.

You know you can post an unpopular opinion without being a completely unlikable cunt, right?

I'm not sure why you think lemmy is full of Musk fans, but I think you'll find the guess to be incorrect. There's not a lot of Tesla drivers on here. I know that because for the most part, the only people that are here, are ones capable of doing a little research. Ones capable of doing a little research, probably won't buy a Tesla. People who do research on stuff definitely research their vehicles.

There's probably a handful of people that got the early generation stuff, but probably not many. Anyways, have fun.

I bought a Tesla because I wanted an electric car with certain features and all the other brands, sold thru dealerships, insisted in charging a 'low stock' fee of $6-$10k that I wasn't willing to pay, even though I prefer some of the other options.

If that makes me a tool.. well, ok I guess. I'll be in the shed if you need me

Sir this is unpopular opinion, not based opinion.

Counterpoint: Anyone who bought a combustion engine car in the past few years is a tool.

See how that works?

I've had mine for 5 years. I wanted an EV and at that time (in the US) there really was no option even remotely close with the combination of range, charging convenience and technology.

Elons downfall sometimes makes me slightly embarrassed to be associated to it in any way, but its still a great car, not perfect but great. 5 years and I've had to replace a set of tires, wiper blades and fluid, and 2 sets of cabin air filters. That's it.

Its popular to hate on Elon and its rightly deserved but come the fuck on.

As a BMW driver, I am pleased that there is a new asshole driver car

Although I do believe Elon has been acting like a fucking maniac for the past few years, I would still buy a Tesla if I had the money for it. There's absolutely no other electric vehicle on the market with so much tech and so much power for so little money.

Quality? For sure others are better in this regard. But just pure fun and power? No other even comes close, and the ones that do (Porsche Taycan, etc) are much more expensive to buy AND maintain.

There's a reason Tesla model 3 is the best selling electric vehicle in the WORLD. Shit's good yo.

We have to know how to separate Elon, the character from the products and services his company provides. (except Twitter, it's gonna burn to the ground.)

I can write from a Company perspective with multiple EVs. All Tesla models except X. We have VW Golf E, IDs, Mercedes EQS, E-Tron, Polestar and some mercedes E-vans. I've driven all of them...long range, short range, multiple months. And in the price range of 45-55k€ nothing beats The Model Y (2022). Its a great car. Tesla has made a great leap in quality from 2020 to 2022. We have Model 3s from different years, and the difference is huge. The recent ones are stellar for their price....no comparison with anything else on the market. This will certainly change quickly in the next years. The supercharger grid is also the single best feature.

Also...I can distinguish between a car and a delusional apartheid willy wonka.

If liking the CEO is a prerequisite for buying the companies products I'd better start learning how to live off the land

I have a Model Y since nearly a year now and it's overall the best car I have ever owned. Drawbacks? So far no. QA issues? No. Overall quality is actually on par with a similarly priced German car, if you ask me. The rear bumper? Still attached.

At the same time Tesla is the only car company where people make a direct connection between the car and the CEO. Couldn't care less about Elmo.

I own a Model Y, don't give a fuck what Elon does or says. I own a Ford too and couldn't tell you who the hell the CEO of Ford is. Their personal opinions have fuck-all to do with the product, in my opinion. I test drove one, loved everything about the car, the charging network is objectively better, and I'm a big fan of self driving so that's a bonus. I'm a little over a year into ownership and there's absolutely no complaints I have about the car, it's been a great experience.

Now the question is, why do you have such strong opinions about what cars other people buy? I've had a great experience with my Tesla and don't know of any better way I could've spent my money on a vehicle.

I’m not a musk fan and he’s really turned me off from the brand but as far as my car goes it’s great.

Source: Goober who bought one two years ago and has enjoyed it thoroughly.

The billionaires want us to fight each other, don't fall for this trap.

I've driven probably close to a hundred different Teslas and nearly every electric car currently on the market over my career working with cars, and I completely agree with this take even when you remove Elongated Muskrat and the semi-functional, utterly misrepresented Autopilot entirely from the equation. Sure, a Tesla (in proper working order) feels really good to drive, but practically every other electric car on the market (outliers being the Leaf and the Bolt) are working as hard as they can to capture that same experience and most are doing a really good job if not exceeding that standard. The only differences are that most other manufacturers have what I have to assume is a massively more robust design and engineering team, better quality control, and generally decades upon decades more experience in designing cars in general, and not taking advantage of that as a buyer is a pretty dumb move, especially when you start researching the myriad issues with Teslas. Sure, Tesla may have kickstarted the electric car market, but with all the current, similarly priced options on the market, buying a Tesla is purely for the status-symbol optics or because you actually buy into Elon's BS, which is its own can of worms.

I respect your opinion and I hate pretty much everything that Musk says and does... but I love my car. The other options on the market are not as good at this point. Maybe soon they will be, and I'll look at them again next time I buy.

Elaine

Gender shaming? What the fuck does your projected gender issues have to do with anything?

Fuck everything about that clown Musk, but no one can deny that Tesla makes a compelling case when you just look at only the cars and the network.

The funny thing is that one of the biggest advantages that Tesla has had - namely that charging network - will now be open to basically everyone since North America seems to be switching all to their adapter. So in one fell swoop, they have lost their biggest advantage.

And as more vehicles come on-line from other car makers, they will lose their other advantage, but they are still Top 3 in all the categories they compete in. To claim otherwise is ridiculous. And I say that as someone who would never consider a Tesla to a large degree because of Musk and their god awful build quality and anti-consumer and anti-worker tactics.

Electric vehicles with drive assist are awesome and are the future

If you mean future as in save the environment, then I disagree. Individual transport as a mainstream mean of transportation is the problem. What we need to save ourselves is to replace 95% of cars with public transports and bicycles, and then the 5% remaining can be EVs if you want. The reality of EVs is they shift the carbon footprint from driving to manufacturing, and the emission from local to the power plants (depending on the production means where you live), but the total reduction is not nearly enough.

As someone who does not own a Tesla due to a crippling, chronic case of nomoneyitis, a Tesla has been my dream car for a while. That is to say, it was, because after watching more than a few Technology Connections videos @ YouTube, Hyundai’s EV has me looking like that distracted boyfriend meme.

It looks even cooler than a Tesla to me, and the features seem better too.

That's why I still want my Nissan Leaf instead of a Tesla

from what I've seen about Tesla, reliability is a factor. Here's a quote from Which, a good place for reviews in the UK: "Tesla cars garner a lot of hype for their innovations, but reliability isn’t one of their strengths, according to our annual survey of owners. In our latest reliability survey, the Tesla Model 3 performed well in a number of areas. However, the fact that 28% of owners experienced at least one fault (well above the average) consigns the Model 3 to a three-star score for reliability."

Wow, spoken like an absolute tool.

i'm just waiting for a reasonably priced e-car capable of towing an RV trailer a reasonable distance to hit the second hand market.

i don't really care which billionaire cunt the original owner gave their money to.

it probs wont be a tesla though. they have a poor record on right to repair which is pretty important on the second hand market

I've received numerous reports on this post now, and I'm doing my best to leave it up. Please refrain from personally insulting people here (i.e. the post title and update). Still leaving it up for now.

You have a problem with Tesla's boss, not with Tesla.

Hey, you do you man. If you solely base your opinion of people based on what car they drive I am not going to convince you otherwise. I mostly presume this is meant as a trigger post to drive engagement, in which you succeeded.

With that said, I have a model 3 and I'm pretty happy with the car and how Tesla have been treating me. The supercharger network is fantastic for long travel. I don't agree with Musk on most things and maybe my next car won't be a Tesla. It's always a pros/cons weighing on what features you value most atm.

I don't know a ton of Tesla owners, but the ones I do know aren't "Tesla Bros" by any stretch. Half of them didn't even know who Elon was and once I explained the response was "oh that guy owns Tesla? I didn't know that".

I think the average population just isn't that in the loop sadly.

I don't care . Alls car are garbage . Be dependent to them suck .

I don't have a tesla, so I don't have any reason to defend them.

But elon is not any different from any other automotive ceo. Wolkswagen, bmw, stellantis (FCA) and so on are actually much worse. They are cheaters, corrupted, most of them spent decades brabing governments to boycott public transportation and EVs.

Elon is bad, but he is probably the least bad of the automotive industry. Which gives you an idea on how much rotten is the automotive industry

Teslas build quality has been hit or miss since they came on the market.

I will always respect them for showing people that electric cars can be viable and fun. But nowadays, I would never bring myself to buy one knowing that some of the profit is going towards that fucking imbicile who owns twitter.

While I'm not looking to get a new car rn. Down the road I'd like to consider something like a Toyota BZ4X. The first gen has a few issues that need to be ironed out. But a few years from now, I reckon itl be a great option

That or something like it from Honda. Those two brands are who I trust most in terms of reliablity and build quality if I'm going to make an investment in a new kind of car, I want it to be them.

Don't really understand the energy spent on this matter. Just vote with your wallet. Don't like Tesla? Awesome. Don't buy one. Like them? Go ahead.

People are allowed to like and dislike things and not everything is run on a manichean paradigm of extreme hyperbole where things are absolute shit or the best thing that's ever happened.

A Tesla seems, objectively, like an okay car that's fun but usually comes with drawbacks and QA issues. Some will be more enthused by the latest gadget. Some wont.

Then after that, Musk as a public figure, the bro hype, stupid dodgecoin memes, etc... All of that is just noise.

I actually would have wanted to get a Tesla and had been eyeing them for a bit when I knew relatively little about Musk. Since he showed the world what a toolshed he was and can't stop opening his stupid mouth... I won't do anything to support Musk at all, I'll never buy a Tesla with him around. I'd still want to go all electric, but just waiting for something relatively affordable and dependable to present itself.

Honestly the car industry as a whole is whack, not just Tesla.

Most manufacturers would screw over their customers as well as the planet if it means a bigger profit.

I don't purchase things or make investments based on CEOs. The history of automaker CEOs is quite ugly. I also use Amazon, and Bezos is also a tremendously evil "tool." Just because a CEO is dumb enough to be loud-stupid in ways that are accessible to the public doesn't make them worse/better in my eyes.

Tesla as a company has great engineers, they've basically built a tremendous drivetrain on an incredible car frame, and they don't care at all about the interior fit and finish. Emphasizing Elon over the engineers that put those cars together is a disservice to the hard work of the people actually doing the work.

Teslas are some of the safest cars on the road. They're an engineers car: all the work is in the parts you can't see. You can hate Elon all you want, but if their safety record continues to be as stellar as it has been, I'll probably buy a Model Y in the next couple of years. Not because I love or hate Elon--he doesn't enter into the equation when I'm thinking about the safety of my family--but because the engineers at Tesla have designed a very safe electric car.

If all you look at are the loudest articles, the most repugnant tweets, have at. I'm looking for a car that, per mile, provides safe transportation. When it comes to electric cars (or any car, really), Tesla has consistently been at the top.

my favorite tesla fact is that the ass ends of the car are only held on with double sided tape and fall off cause they are so poorly designed that they fill with water when driving in the rain.

I love my Leaf. Only 129 miles for range and can take longer than 12 hours to charge in my garage but not having bought gas for almost 5 years has been great and it's a joy to drive an electric car. I compared the Leaf to the Tesla Model 3 at the time and could find no reasons that the Leaf wasn't a better use of my money. Tesla electric cars seem like more of a status symbol than an environmental or economic decision in today's EV market.

It’s really interesting how musk has completely trashed his reputation over the past idk 3 years or so. I wonder if he’ll eventually be kicked out of Tesla. The brand has gone from aspirational to a sort of weird tech-bro joke. The huge advantage Tesla still has is in their charging network which is still miles better than anything else, unless you live in norway. With other pretty major manufacturers signing on to support the Tesla Charing standard (cockily named NACS) we’ll see where the industry ends up. Wonder if Tesla is thinking of transitioning from a car manufacturer to a charger enjoyer.

Op sounds like a douche tho.

Tesla's are very dangerous: https://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Don't put your life and the life of those around you at risk by driving a Tesla

"Fuck you for trying to buy a car that you might enjoy, now get back to the shitty car companies who have a monopoly on the automotive business."

Like seriously, Hate Elon all you want, but no we haven't known "for years" and you claims on "safety items" seems dubious at best. But more importantly people wanted a specific car. If you buy it specifically because of Elon, ok, but most people just want the best car, and pretending the automotive industry isn't filled with the absolute worst of humanity (Far worse than Elon, just not public facing enough)... like you're kidding yourself bud.

If you’ve bought a Tesla in the last five or so years, you’re a damn goober in my eyes. That’s my hot take, prepared for being called poor and other sodium, tear filled comments from fools whose opinions don’t matter.

Here's my hot take, I really don't give a shit what you think, and I'm saying this as a non-Tesla owner. It's not about you being poor, or any other salty, you're a pure asshole (let me guess BMW driver). You belittle others who "opinions don't matter" but I'm really struggling why does anyone care what you think at that rate?

And no this being "Unpopular" isn't good enough this is just a shitty argument. This is OP just being argumentative and insulting.

Hell the "Elaine" joke should offend those who propose to care about gendered insults, but I suppose that will be accepted because "Bad man deserved it" or something. Do the same to Elliot Page, and you'd be crucified though.

I've never once bought or not bought a product because of who the CEO is. I'm definitely not going to start now.

Musk has lost a lot of respect over the years and that's continuing in the same trajectory. I always sensed he wasn't being honest and I guess he kind of is being more himself.

Tesla is way over priced than what it's actually worth to build the vehicles, this is based on what they've said themselves. The fact is it's in so much demand that as usual when that happens the price increases. Other companies just need to make the jump to EV vehicles for Tesla's to need to lower prices or improve even more, but your post reeks of some other reasoning to why you're posting this.

I opted for a Chevy Bolt instead of a Tesla, primarily because of the cost being lower. Secondarily it was because Musk is a dipshit.

get a jeep tire rotation at dealer service and they add unscheduled brake maintenance not covered under warranty. $900. Tesla checked wear in my driveway and said it wasn't needed. $0.00

agreed, but people still support amazon & apple like they're the next coming of christ. there are no ethical corporations under capitalism

I don't think this is an unpopular opinion. Politics aside, you have to be ignorant to make this purchase. A little research will show you this is not the most reliable of product.

People should separate the quality of the products, produced by the workers, from the batshit insane politics and mindset of the owners. I have a Tesla, and I recognize Elon is a protofascist dick, but the CEOs of other companies are just better at maintaining their image, they're part of the same parasitic class that Elon is a part of.

I bought a Tesla for the power, infrastructure, etc. but I don't generally recommend Teslas. If you don't care about 0-60 time, and you can hold out until 2024/2025, lots of EVs will adopt the NACS standard and be able to use almost the entire supercharging network. Other vehicles will likely be better and/or cheaper.

I have never liked them, always thought they looked ugly as shit. And Musk made me hate them even more once he showed his true colors.

I can easily tell the difference between a 2013 vs 2023 Toyota Camry.

I literally can't tell the difference between a 2013 and 2023 Model S.

That's the real problem.

I think you're living in an online Reddit bubble. I'm not an Elon fan at all, and most people in the real world don't drive cars based on their political affiliation.Lots of CEOs of major car companies are slimy and have been involved in scandals.

I bought my model 3 for $50k CAD after incentives and tax which is expensive but not an absurd price, and have had 0 problems with it after 2 years and it's an amazing car. I know about the quality control issues with some cars but the warranty is good. I'm pretty sure the oldest Teslas on the road are 13+ years old so I'm pretty happy I'll get to drive it for so long.

We’ve known for years that the owner is a lying, creepy, out of touch dipshit and that it’s a very flawed car and the company will cut costs to save money on safety items, every time.

Do know you know anything about the companies you buy from every day? Do you know the CEOs of all the food companies, the phone companies, the car companies, the apps you use, the coffee you drink, the clothes you wear? Most of them are just as bad or worse. The media likes shitting on Elon Musk so you hear most of the bad shit about him. If you think Musk is even close to being the worst CEO, you are grossly misinformed.

If your bar for not buying from a company is that the owner is a dipshit and the products are flawed, I hope you're ready to start a commune in the woods and become a subsistence farmer.

Who cares man, this is rich people shit.

I think the biggest issue...well maybe issue isn't the right word, but it's easy for people to go "tesla is the best car I've ever known" but it is only part of the story. It's easy to love the idea of an electric car, I'm honestly interested in getting one for my next vehicle. I just want to know how many people that love tesla have owned any other electric vehicles. And of those that have, I'd love their opinions of both.

People buy plenty of really shitty combustion engine cars too...

I’ve had a model 3 for 5 years and of the more than 10 I’ve had in my old age, it is by far the best, safest, most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. I based my purchase on the vehicle, not the fucking CEO you nimrod. I will buy another in the future.

I hate Trump. Does that mean I should have stopped buying anything American for 4 years?

Tesla is an innovation. Without it carmakers would still be pushing us petrol suv down our throat. Tesla basically push forward the ev initiative, making ev cool. And the early adopters, i respect them for making ev cool.

Tesla is like iphone and steve jobs in the phone world.

Has anyone else seen any Teslas with the T thingy taken off? I feel like that's a booming business.

Teslas have some serious issues and shortcomings. And I say that as an owner. FSD is a mess and I don't trust it. The model 3 has some very opinionated design choices. I don't like how it's frameless. The interior is nowhere near as nice as cars in the same price range. There's only 2 usb ports and you need to use one of them for dashcam storage. Maintenance is a pain in the ass to DIY. They remove key features over OTA updates(they took away radar sensors for parking in older model 3s).

However, if you're in the market for a used EV under 30k, you've only got basically 3 options: a rwd model 3, a leaf, or a bolt. The model 3 is the only one of those that has fast charging and can be taken on any sort of longer road trip. And they're cheap to charge at home. And even if you're shopping new, I'm fairly sure the base model 3 is the cheapest EV on the market if you qualify for the full tax credit.

I'm in the market for an electric vehicle. What are my options, @BettyWhiteInHD ?

The best part of Tesla is the ability to purchase online without needing a dealer network. This is what I want other companies to copy.

Elaine

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I would have totally considered a Tesla3 for my partner if not for all the reasons listed here.... Price wise they seemed like a good enough deal for a new Model3, but I couldn't get past the Musk factor, and the quality control issues - I would not trust my life in the hands of that company.

I probably wouldn't buy one now because of my extreme disdain for Musk, but also there are at least comparable alternatives available. Musk is a disaster, and maybe you can argue that if not Tesla, then some other vehicle would have jump started (heh) the EV movement, but I'll at least give Testa credit for helping make the EV as popular as it is now. All that said, I still don't own an EV because the last time I needed to buy a car it was still prohibitively expensive and I had no way to charge it overnight; I suppose there's a whole separate discussion on considering an expensive car you can't charge overnight because you rent an apartment that only has street parking and maybe the real need is to focus on a better housing solution before a new car...but anyways.

I'm just over here sittin' in my lil 2006 civic hybrid, eatin' popcorn and celebrating 200k+ miles without so much as a loose screw.

how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now?

While I agree with the basic premise of your argument, this isn't the knock you think it is. The majority of passenger cars won't be on the road in 10 years, let alone 20. Between poorly designed cheap econo-cars, people who want the latest new thing, and people who abuse their car (insanely long commutes, deferring maintenance, etc), they just don't last that long on average. I rarely see a 2013 model or earlier let alone a 2003 or eariler.

Embarrassed for people who buy them nowadays.. There are so many better EV out there lmao

I bought a Hyundai Kona Electric at the start of the year and couldn’t be happier

Here's another unpopular opinion:

People blinded by the hatred towards Elon (or any other person) can't think straight and their opinions on related subjects aren't to be taken seriously

I’m pretty sure I remember seeing something about how Musk had very little to do with Tesla.

Everyone i know who purchased these are disappointed after the honeymoon wears off and like the doors randomly open or fall off.

Eh this is the same fad with probably the same people who all bought/would have bought a Mustang in the 90s

I'm just here for Elaine

You are the guy keying all the cars!

I know fuck all about cars but I've been a passenger in a few Teslas and they seemed nice. Would I buy one? Probably not. Every car I've owned has been an absolute shitbox and it'll probably remain that way until I have to transport kids around.

And they’re not particularly well built; how many of these do you think will be on the road 20 years from now?

These two are not mutually exclusive. They're not well built, but they also have rediculously low failure rates. So they may have a lot more rattles, but I'd be surprised if most of the Teslas on the road today, don't last until they're at least 12, which is the average age of a car in America IIRC.

this would be a popular opinion on this site

We used to complain about BMWs and the likes, nowadays teslas drivers are some of the most bmw-like drivers out there and joined the club.

Lots of people will see it as a status symbol like an SUV... wait.. SUVs aren't even status symbols now? you have to have a big twin cab truck? People are such insecure losers lol >_>

I can at least congratulate you for finding the right forum. Fuck Elon regardless but I know a good deal when I see one and I can handle a little moral quandary. I like my '23 M3 and my TSLA gains. Enjoy your life getting pissed over the meaningless choices of others.

Tesla are objectively inferior to established OEM in many ways. The build quality is awful, refinement is poor. The main advantage Tesla have is their system architecture. Since they were an electric car company from the outset, they don't have the problem of legacy systems and tooling to constrain their design solutions. This manifests as best in class efficiency, ability to remotely reprogram the control systems and surveil vehicle data. On the other hand, it takes a very long time indeed to solve the many problems of making a car reliable and high quality. They just haven't been around long enough to reach the level of OEM that have been doing this for a century. Tesla is mostly an exercise in slick marketing and it seems to be working, for now.

I just avpid the issue altogether and just use trains, buses and trams if I'm not walking or biking. Public transport is the only real future. And bikes.

Btw I lived in a rural town before living in a city so don't @ me about public transportation not being viable in rural places, once the cities are well served and built around public transportation that can be expanded to more rural places. The few places where it is genuinely impossible to viably use even a modest or limited public transportation network are inhabited by so few people that its impact from them using cars would be negligible.

In fact I'd say it's not so much what type of car you drive but rather how much you use your car, because electric cars are less polluting than combustion engine cars but they're still pretty polluting and come with all the issues cars come with. If you have alternatives to driving: use them; if there aren't but there could be: fight for those alternatives; if neither: use whatever car you have already for as long as you can before it destroys itself like your toilet after a night out eating 50kgs of mexican food like a slutty little boykisser, after that perhaps look into buying one of the alternatives listed here.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk

If you buy any EV besides a Tesla you are a fool.

1. buying a car is not an endorsement of the manufacturers CEO
2. Tesla charging network is unbeatable (such as the fact that it works)
3. every other EV is first-gen and unproven. Tesla battery degradation is known because there are 10+ year old cars on the road with hundreds of thousands of miles. There is no significant loss of range in the normal lifespan of an automobile
4. Tesla quality sucks but so does pretty much every manufacturer
5. the price is the price of a Tesla. You know exactly what you will pay before stepping foot in a "dealership". There are no market adjustments and shady BS.
6. since they are an ev only manufacturer I trust their service center 1000x more than a dealership whose techs work 99% on ice vehicles.
7. Elon musk might be a dumbass but he isn't going to intentionally compromise the safety of Tesla vehicles. It is bad business sense if it will lead to recalls, safety concerns, loss of mind share, etc

My opinion will change in a few years when Ford/gm/Hyundai/Kia/vw get another generation under their belt. I certainly wouldn't want to buy an EV now that doesn't have a "Tesla" nacs connector now that pretty much everyone has announced they are adopting it.

In my country it's either Tesla or GWM (the Chinese brand). Both have their problems.

Are not Volvo and Tesla the car companies with the highest security rating? I thought both them companies do more security testing than they have too.

I would also say the same about those who bought Teslas when the only thing you could get was the Roadster.

This all lives rent free in your head, wow.

Find something to keep you occupied

No half measures. !fuckcars@lemmy.world

Find me an electric car with drive assist on local roads in all 50 states. Then also find me a car that has a Ryzen processor and web browser where I can load streaming NBA playoff games while I'm charging. And most importantly, find me an electric company with the charging network Tesla has, today, not in a few years when it's "opened up". Then get out of your mom's basement.

Yes Elon fucking sucks, so do all ceos. I bought a used Tesla and Ive had a great experience with it

So brave of you, posting such an "unpopular" opinion about Elon Musk on a site that hates Elon Musk. I pray you don't get downvoted so harshly.

Have you ever driven one? Probably not I'm guessing

Tesla and the people in it are great. It's being undermined by a brainless rich person that tries to act smart

Ummmm, if you are in the US, you don't have a damn clue what you speak of. Go do a roadtrip on non-teslas. Can it be done? Sure? But expect broken CCS1 stations all along the way. Expect that you will have to wait forever to charge. If you are replacing your ICE vehicle and need to travel outside of your local area, Tesla has been the only game in town. End of story.

Why do you think every major car company with significant electric vehicle sales is jumping to the Tesla connector? It is because the Tesla supercharger network is so much better than everything else.

Tesla isn't just their cars, it is their ecosystem. Tesla invested in a massive charging network, VW is next closest but CCS1 legit sucks. CCS2 would have been fine but the US in their infinite wisdom jumped on CCS1.

Now that companies are jumping on the tesla connector, I actually think we will see some real competition in short order which is good for everyone.

The smart thing to do is lease a Tesla so you can get your dick sucked at the party. Women love teslas.

Tesla is one of the best-selling cars in America and in fact was the best-selling car last month. You can have your opinion if you want, but it's ultimately wrong.

Trust me nobody cares half as much as you do.

You’re right, this is an unpopular opinion.

I find it funny that

1. You care this much about what other people drive when it has nothing to do with safety.

2. Think people even think about Elon when they buy a Tesla.

I just want to add that a good portion of buyers think they are "saving the environment" by buying an electrical car because it doesn't burn any fuel. However I was amazed when I realized that most of them don't understand that the electricity their car uses is most probably (around 94% [1]) generated using fossil fuels and due to loss of energy during transmission they are in fact less efficient than your good old gas burning car.

[1] this 94% is just what I remember from some years ago. seeing as countries and governments have started adapting renewable forms of a energy recently it's probably not as bad but still far from ideal which means the point still stands.