My only regret was not deleting all my comments before deleting my reddit account :P

Part of the ToS. Whatever you put on there is effectively theirs. Same with Facebook and your photos etc.

I mean it literally is. People post it there voluntarily knowing that. It's what keeps the lights on.

Spez gets a ton of online hate and it is still somehow not enough hate.

I tried to get us all to start using "King Steven the Turd", but that never caught on.

Bunker boy

When the internet was new I thought that the spread of knowleege would raise up people's awareness of things they had not been exposed to under the false assumption that the vast majority of people where reasonable, but uninformed.

Nope, I was wrong. At best a slight majority are reasonable with varying levels of ignorance and the rest are willfully ignorant.

I don't remember when it was starting out but I do remember the forums of the 00s as well as the overall online culture of the time. The fediverse is the closest I've gotten to feeling that again but obviously nothing will ever feel like that again because I'm an adult and all the sense of wonder is gone from the online world for me.

At least here, we're not on a platform owned by corporations.

Remember when you had RSS with HUNDREDS of different websites and had your own personal little newspaper every day 🥲

I just started hearing about some Facebook at some point, and then some (it's Russia) Odnoklassniki and Vkontakte and a few other spaces.

These seemed to be the sites which lamers use to feel themselves relevant with that Internet thing. Leprosoria of the Web. Places where I wouldn't go, even if I would sometimes go to porn sites, especially when depressed.

Normal people would use LiveJournal and move from ICQ to XMPP and Skype. Skype voice calls (back then they were better with countryside radio link than now with GPON) were a miracle, so me and everybody around me moved to Skype.

Then there was a moment when the Web suddenly died and everyone was on those social networks.

I actually blame LJ and Skype. Technically these worked fine, but they were a gateway drug.

LJ made it easy to have something like a personal webpage, only it wasn't personal, it was in LJ. ICQ lost popularity when it fought alternative clients, there were no alternative clients for Skype at all and everybody got used to service providers dictating how people should use their service, imposing their client software.

It's still terrifying how that ICQ run was the last such run in modern Internet's history. A company fucked around and found out. Nothing like that has happened since. That's my canary.

I deleted my account but that was before I learnt you could replace all your posts with random sentences.

It's phase three of the enshittification cycle. In phase one, you attract users by providing a good service. Once they're locked in, you squeeze them for all they're worth by switching focus to business customers. Once they're locked in, you squeeze them by threatening to deny them access to the users on whom they now depend.

Big profit now is better than our long term image

~ Reddit shareholders

At this point I think Google needs Reddit more than Reddit needs Google. Google search kind of sucks these days. How often do you add site:reddit.com to the end of the query to get any sort of useful result for a specific question? For me it's pretty often. If Reddit cuts off Google, that goes away and Google search suffers significantly. And that might mean the one thing Google cannot abide- a situation where people in large numbers start actively seeking out other search engines.

Don't get me wrong, they're both being super shitty.
Google needs to quit obsessing over AI and a million different cloud products and fix the one product that people actually care about. Reddit needs to stop acting like they own everybody.

Steve "Spaz" Huffman has been trying to milk money out of the site that Alexis Ohanian, Aaron Swartz, and pigboy Steven Spaz kinda created collaborating with each other. Aaron was shoved out first by The Spaz, though one could claim rightfully so in that case since Aaron was basically done with the site, and had moved on to his next project, essentially leaving Alexis and Spaz in the lurch as neither of them understood the code that Aaron had written to make the site functional.

In many ways, the users made this possible. Most of us aren't users in this case. The users that make up the vast majority of the population don't give one thought to their own personal privacy, after all they have "nothing to hide," not knowing that they really need to hide almost all of their data.

If the users were to be educated about how much money the various companies like Reddit, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, and almost every single other "disruptive tech company," has stolen from them, the socialist revolution would have started in the 1980s

Other search engines should continue indexing Reddit and take them to court if they issue a cease and desist imo.

I don't see why you should be miffed at all, Google can bully publications and unindex them and it will work. Reddit according to this: https://www.semrush.com/... is the third most visited website after google and youtube, so they have a bit more power, lots of people google with "site:reddit.com" because it still has some useful content like that and I am going go out on a limb and say that US visitors are the most important for selling ads for Google.

Microsoft will have to make it's own value calculation whether it's worth it and they will likely payup, although more and more of reddit is just bots posting stupid shit.

I am guessing Google paid for access to their internal archives on posts and comments. Will give them a unique dataset for all the stuff that was deleted during the many exodus runs over the years.

They paid in Australia.

Yeah this.

Channeling Joe Pesci from "Casino": "You only have that farking data because WE made that possible!"

Spez has a bunker to build!

this has nothing to do with net neutrality

Reddit would lose badly that's why they don't sue. US' 9th circuit ruled that scraping Linkedin is legal and Bing is not even scraping but indexing the data. Easiest case ever.

It's almost impossible to block web scraping especially someone with Microsoft or Perplexity resources.

Its clearly an attempt to blackmail indexers into license deal as paying something to reddit could be actually cheaper than battling anti robots.

While I don’t disagree with the general idea, Section 230 would introduce an uncontrollable risk into running any website with user-generated content and would essentially shut them down.

they should also be much more liable for the content posted to their sites.

why do people insist on making me defend reddit.

... who, ironically, co-founded reddit and wrote its first second version.

Hey ! Leave us soy boys out of it, we hate Spez as much as you do!

soy is good, what the hell kind of comment is this

Microsoft paying Reddit to pay Microsoft to pay Reddit to pay...

Stock prices absolutely skyrocketing with the news of this infinite revenue stream.

We can be so glad we left. That placees quality has dropped so much.

Reddit is for porn and perhaps age old posts now.

It didn’t, it’s just public so the number has to always go up

U/spez the former moderator of r/jailbait? Who might have connections to Ghilisaine Maxwell? Him?

Oh and PS - posting OC porn on Reddit is a very weird process and not transparent

It's also just indexing not some data harvesting too.

Anything legally.

https://youtu.be/-9DpPoUq14I

I think idiots actually prefix searches with "reddit" like "reddit best toaster".

They don't realise that it's all bot content like the rest of the Web.

That doesn't matter though. If bing doesn't have those results it will drive users away.

You can. We didn't need to like it but they can. Besides, isn't that how many magazines work? Pay for articles and such

He can put his dick in /dontputyourdickinthat

Aside: I give Lemmy serious props for not reproducing some of these communities btw.

what search engine do you use?

That isn't how it works for publicly traded companies. There is no such thing as enough only more

Well, they did. I guess the definition of "support" has changed. Probably to include more yachts.

Yes I’m on vpn and they block me. They were trying to force me to login.

I think it is when you use the toilet - it is what you flush away.

The article says OpenAI made a deal with Reddit, so blocking Microsoft isn't going to keep Reddit's data from getting fed to OpenAI

Https://reddit.com/robots.txt

They literally are, and attempting to block those that don't.

An absolutely prodigious back catalog of high quality images, interviews, and explainers. A treasure trove of historical content that's been heavily indexed and participant-weighted for relevancy. And the bulk of it predates the infestation of AI, so its valuable just as sampling data of original human content for further iterative development of ChatGPT and other LLMs.

A lot of older posts are still relevant to specific hobbies. I will look up information on paper, some guitar information, but most posts from the last two years are not worth looking at.

There is also so much regurgitated LLM shit.

Completely. Lemmy is far too small to have the value Reddit does.

I left Reddit due to their API bullshit, but I so miss all of the hobby communities I was part of, that has like-minded members, and a plethora of resources. It's not easy to impossible to start communities such as reeftanks, homesteading, literature, bookcirclejerk, etc. on a platform as small as Lemmy. And beyond starting one, the quality and quantity will never match Reddit's because Lemmy just doesn't have the same reach.

Lemmy is great if you like Linux, like Star Trek, or are trans, but other than that, it's missing so, so many demographics that make a wholistic platform.

Yes, absolutely. Any time I need to buy a product I don't know much about, I look for an enthusiast community with a FAQ. Most of the active, high-quality communities are on Reddit.

I would like decentralized services to replace that, but that's a slow process, if it happens at all.

I dont think you know what the word communistic means.