What fresh fuckery is this? 🤦

2 years ago by Viking_Hippie to c/mildlyinfuriating

That's a rhetorical question, in case there's any doubt. I know the exact what and why of their bullshit.

Dr_Box 188 points 2 years ago

Another attempt at blocking ad blockers

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expatriado 81 points 2 years ago

we need an adblockers blockers blocker

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ObviouslyNotBanana 49 points 2 years ago

uBlock

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thisbenzingring 28 points 2 years ago

No you!

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tacofox 19 points 2 years ago

uBlock Origin - FTFY ❤️

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ObviouslyNotBanana 13 points 2 years ago

Yeah I mean that one. Don't use the other one.

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smb 7 points 2 years ago

we need an adblockers blockers blocker

no, what is needed is an app that helps track who benefits from thr apps that annly you most:

ownership of companies pushing annoying ads
management of companies pushing annoying ads
find the connection between those and the products you maybe want to buy in shops or in internet before you buy, then instead of buying, let the app send the seller a message that you did not buy because of that connection.
do this in numbers with lots of people and see what happens to the advertising jungle

the point is NOT buying because of advertising AND let them know it, so they can learn to improve themselves.

they wanted your data? let them have it the way you want them to.

same with any platform. ask the creator of your choice to also publish using patreon and you'll become a member then, getting the content free of ads. better more directly pay who does the actual work, not all the big tech harvesting all the benefit inbetween.

so what maybe is needed here could be a free or even self-hostable platform that also allows payed subscriptions.

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expatriado 2 points 2 years ago

don't like to use the /s, but maybe you needed it

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serpineslair 101 points 2 years ago

I think they are clamping down and trying to force people to watch yt in Google's desired way. They have managed to stop most Piped instances via ip banning and also requesting users to "sign in to confirm you are not a robot". I wish their was a proper alternative at this point. It would be great if something like Peertube took off.

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Viking_Hippie 51 points 2 years ago

I use SmartTube on my TV and NewPipe on my phone. Except for links from Lemmy.

If this bullshit is/becomes a thing for every YouTube video, I'm gonna have to do a lot of annoying copying and pasting or just eschew pretty much all videos on Lemmy 🤬

Agreed on Peertube btw.

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expatriado 21 points 2 years ago

i got NewPipe set as default, so links from Lemmy open there instead of the YT app

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Viking_Hippie 10 points 2 years ago

I finally managed to do that too, so there's that 🖕 to Google. And then the specific video hit me with the dreaded "not available in your country" bullshit 🤦

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Bilbo_Haggins 3 points 2 years ago

Thank you for letting me know this was a thing!! Total game-changer.

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I_Miss_Daniel 8 points 2 years ago

I wonder could someone write an app that watches the clipboard for YouTube URLs and auto launches the desired app?

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Moonrise2473 13 points 2 years ago

You can uninstall YouTube and set newpipe as default "YouTube" app, all links will be open in that

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314xel 7 points 2 years ago

UntrackMe, doesn't open an app, but redirects to a chosen Invidious instance. I use farside.link/invidious which chooses a random instance closer to you.

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Rentlar 6 points 2 years ago

Alternatively, just use the share link on any function, and route it to the appropriate app. In this case, share a Youtube Link to the official app or to NewPipe.

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serpineslair 5 points 2 years ago

There is a similar thing already written, minus the automatic part. You set it as your default browser and lets you do all sorts of things to the link before opening it in a browser. It lets you choose which app to use the link in afterwards. You can unshort urls, it checks for malware or redirects... You get the picture. Not sure if this helps with what you are after:

https://f-droid.org/...

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GissaMittJobb 4 points 2 years ago

Not necessary, apps can register to open links from specific domains.

The only caveat is that if they don't also own the domain - like Google owns both youtube.com and the YouTube Android app - you have to manually go to the settings for the app in System Settings and enable them, under 'Open by default'.

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tacofox 3 points 2 years ago

1000 for SmartTube!! I finally side-loaded uYou for my iphone and last time I used my android tablet I was able to update reVanced but thats been forever ago.

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Gigasser 11 points 2 years ago

Might be cool to start advocating for some YouTube creators to also post their stuff on federated video hosting/sharing instances. Peertube is pretty cool. I mean shit, if any of you are thinking of being creators, and you make a video, put it both on YouTube and some Peertube instance.

Edit: replaced a word with "instance" and added word "instance"

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9point6 9 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately creators need to be paid and YouTube ad & subscription money is a big part of that for many of them.

By posting to elsewhere that won't pay them, they would be reducing their income

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roguetrick 3 points 2 years ago

Shit, if anything anybody popular would be costing themselves money through hosting.

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kent_eh 1 point 2 years ago

Unfortunately creators need to be paid and YouTube ad & subscription money is a big part of that for many of them.

By posting to elsewhere that won't pay them, they would be reducing their income

Plus, those other platforms don't have an audience.

Even Odysee, which has been around for several years, I only get 10s of views compared to the 3000-5000 that I get on youtube.

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linearchaos 8 points 2 years ago

There are maybe a dozen non nuts on Odyssey. They're just drown out by the fascists.

Problem is:

Peertube doesn't pay

You have to pay for the backup/storage of your videos.

PT will have massive scaling pains.

Yt spends a lot of that advertising money hosting non profitable videos for free.

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Viking_Hippie 2 points 2 years ago

Yes! I couldn't agree more on all that if I tried 🫶

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Kethal 48 points 2 years ago

Whenever I have issues with YouTube refusing to do things it used to do, I stop using it for a while and eventually they put it back. If you're not willing to do that, I find that the NewPipe app is better than the native YouTube app. But be warned that occasionally Google makes changes that break New Pipe and you need to wait a couple days for the devs to catch up to the change.

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Viking_Hippie 17 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I've used NewPipe for ages, but YouTube links from Lemmy open in my browser, so I'm gonna have to copy paste into it, which is going to be all kinds of annoying 😡

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PlasticExistence 11 points 2 years ago

Try turning on the desktop version of the site once the link is open in the browser.

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RandomStickman 7 points 2 years ago

Try Better Open With. Maybe you can set it to open YT links on NewPipe. Or Revanced as another option.

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Viking_Hippie 12 points 2 years ago

I tried BOW, but it didn't register Lemmy OR NewPipe as existing, so that was a dud.

I then realized that maybe I could set a global rule for all the YouTube addresses to open in NewPipe and I could so I did!

I then clicked the link that originally gave me the OP message. It opened in NewPipe.. And I got the fucking "not available in your country" message in stead!

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mrvictory1 7 points 2 years ago

Assuming Android: Settings -> Apps -> Your YT app -> Set as default -> Enable everything

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tomjuggler 2 points 2 years ago

"not available in your country" is easily fixed, just turn on your vpn

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Kethal 3 points 2 years ago

On my phone this can be set by going to settings, default apps, opening links, wait unusually long for the list to load, scroll to NewPipe, choose the links you want it to handle.

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Viking_Hippie 3 points 2 years ago

Same here, sans the wait heh. I did that earlier today 🙂

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Mwa 30 points 2 years ago

Yt won't let you use your web browser anymore? Why

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CanadaPlus 65 points 2 years ago

So you'll download their spyware.

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Mwa -5 points 2 years ago

Or a client?

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CanadaPlus 12 points 2 years ago

Third party clients might be next.

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Viking_Hippie 13 points 2 years ago

They've already been trying to kill them for a while now. Luckily for us they've only had limited success so far..

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smb 2 points 2 years ago

really, yt stopped to play sound on the website for me (beeing logged in), there is a banner to "activate sound" but it always disappears unclickable fast, so i searched and found webtube, an app that basically loads their website, but has one feature youtube has not: "sound" *lol

now i wonder how many of these apps really are "third" party apps and not really theirs only masked as third party for getting that gain of trust all the "others" get when it comes to big techs with their very own "public" crime records ...

would be too easy for them to create some small apps, act as if those were 3rd party software but harvest that spyoil (of the 21 century) anyway.

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CileTheSane 22 points 2 years ago

Same reason Facebook won't let you look at your messages through the website on mobile. (Unless you request the desktop site).

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Leate_Wonceslace 29 points 2 years ago

Oh look, youtube is doing the same bullshit as TikTok.

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Viking_Hippie 13 points 2 years ago

Guess Congress are going to have to ban YouTube unless Google sells it, then 🤷

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CeeBee_Eh 14 points 2 years ago

They're already talking about breaking up Google/Alphabet

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Zidane 25 points 2 years ago

Greyjay has been working fine for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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feannag 10 points 2 years ago

I've really enjoyed greyjay. I don't yet have creators I follow outside of YouTube, but I love the concept.

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PrettyFlyForAFatGuy 6 points 2 years ago

unfortunately a lot of the bigger alternatives are just filled with right wing nutters. although hopefully apps like grayjay will make it easier for less political minded people find a home on other platforms

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wreckedcarzz 25 points 2 years ago

Everyone here is like "use this" "use that" which is great but the immediate solution is

switch to desktop mode

You're welcome

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Viking_Hippie 7 points 2 years ago

I tried that, didn't work. NewPipe does.

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derpgon 24 points 2 years ago

ReVanced, Grayjay, Newpipe

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Viking_Hippie 15 points 2 years ago

I loved Vanced, but never got ReVanced to work or tried GrayJay.

NewPipe works like a charm now that I have it set as the default app for all YouTube links, though 😁

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geneva_convenience 7 points 2 years ago

You have to download the YouTube APK version ReVanced specifies in the compile step You can find the Apk on APKpure.

ReVanced is a hassle though.

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Viking_Hippie 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I did everything the documentation asked of me and did every relevant troubleshooter, just couldnt get that shit to work 🤷

NewPipe, on the other hand, just works perfectly immediately. Other than temporarily falling to Google's evil machinations against alternative frontends once, there's been absolutely no trouble with it.

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geneva_convenience 1 point 2 years ago

One thing most guides don't show is that you have to match the YouTube app version with the suggestion. They implemented a handy search search button which searches for the needed app version in your browser too.

But if you do not need your account then Newpipe is excellent too.

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Rev3rze 2 points 2 years ago

Literally did this 10 hours ago using this guide: https://lemmy.world/post/857701. You need an earlier version apk than APKpure has though (19.16.39). I was surprised with how easy it is tbh. Just had to find a decent site to get that particular apk from but that's a simple Google search away.

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TwanHE 1 point 2 years ago

Should be able to find previous version on apkpure aswell.

Usually typing "YouTube apk 19." On Google is enough for the currently required version to be in the autofill for me.

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atlas 6 points 2 years ago

+1 for NewPipe

There's a fork with built in sponsorblock as well

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cujo255 2 points 2 years ago

Do you have the name for that fork?

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atlas 1 point 2 years ago

It's on the same page where you get the normal NewPipe apk now; it used to be on GitHub

https://newpipe.app/sponsorblock/

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CeeBee_Eh 3 points 2 years ago

+1 for Greyjay

http://greyjay.app/

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Emtity_13 23 points 2 years ago

I've gone out of my way to make a cracked .IPA of YouTube (basic adocker + sponserblock + Downloader) for my phone to not have to deal with there stuff and it's held out so far. Just hope it keeps doing so

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Killer_Tree 14 points 2 years ago

Is there a website or resource that describes this in more detail? First I've ever heard of a cracked .IPA

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Psythik 9 points 2 years ago

You must not be a beer drinker, then. I love cracking open an IPA after a long day.

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Emtity_13 3 points 2 years ago

it's a version of Uyou that you can find on GitHub. Tells you how, though you have to do a bit of the compiling yourself

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gravitas_deficiency 21 points 2 years ago

Haha oh shit, they’re killing mobile browser view???

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Viking_Hippie 8 points 2 years ago

Yup!

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GissaMittJobb 2 points 2 years ago

I seriously doubt it. At most this is probably an A/B-test or some content-specific restrictions.

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possiblylinux127 21 points 2 years ago

Piped and Invidious

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primrosepathspeedrun 8 points 2 years ago

okay but what do we do about backing up the massive library of content that only exists on youtube? how do we back that shit up, so when they break those, it is't all lost forever?

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cupcakezealot 17 points 2 years ago

You

Try

Distinguishing

Literal

Pizza

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skuzz 12 points 2 years ago

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primrosepathspeedrun 5 points 2 years ago

okay but I have less than 100TB on my systems, and most of that is backups.

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tacofox 6 points 2 years ago

You don't have to hoard your back ups 😭

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Cris16228 1 point 2 years ago

I've always asked "what does that ever mean?" Now, thsi answers my question

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SendMePhotos 3 points 2 years ago

Yewtu.be

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skullgiver 19 points 2 years ago

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Xylight 12 points 2 years ago

It could be that it's playing in a codec that your mobile browser doesn't support like av1 or something. Not sure though, is this happening with every video?

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brucethemoose 3 points 2 years ago

Surely it would fall back to mp4? Are some videos AV1/VP9 only?

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Xylight 1 point 2 years ago

I dont know if youtube has h264 support

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brucethemoose 1 point 2 years ago

They have always hosted AVC videos. They have to for old/incompatible devices, because literally any toaster and software on earth will play it.

But sometimes they are funny about what gets encoded to what, and of course they will always try to default to av1/vp9 and opus.

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LemurEyes 12 points 2 years ago

Install ReVanced

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snooggums 11 points 2 years ago

What browser are you using?

Firefox + uBlock Origin is still working for me right now.

Edit: hmm, could be a regional thing too. I'm in the US.

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Viking_Hippie 5 points 2 years ago

Nightly with uBO, so that's not it..

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Voyajer 7 points 2 years ago

have you tried desktop mode? It may just be looking at the useragent

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disconnectikacio 8 points 2 years ago

Use Smarttube instead on android tv and stbs Smarttube

For android phones, tablets: Tubular

In browser ublock blocks youtube ads, also invidious instances.

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Viking_Hippie 4 points 2 years ago

I'm already using SmartTube on my tv and Tubular's parent app NewPipe on my phone and now I finally have it set up so all links to YouTube addresses on my phone open in NewPipe so that I don't get this bullshit again 😁

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olafurp 7 points 2 years ago

Get the YouTube Revanced app to play this*

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bitjunkie 7 points 2 years ago

Advertising for alternatives and/or unofficial apps

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Viking_Hippie 2 points 2 years ago

Yup! I was already using NewPipe for finding YouTube videos myself, but this is what spurred me on to find out how to also open every YouTube link i click in NewPipe 😁

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gwilikers 6 points 2 years ago

ReVanced

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sunzu2 5 points 2 years ago

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hungryphrog 5 points 2 years ago

Time to switch to Invidious.

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Viking_Hippie 6 points 2 years ago

Nah, I did one better and set NewPipe to open all YouTube links

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GregorGizeh 5 points 2 years ago

This is all I get for the last week or so, no matter which video I try to open. I was about to delete the app for that. How is yours still working?

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atlas 4 points 2 years ago

So this caused me to go digging as I've run into the same issue. Make sure it's up to date first obviously, and if it still refuses to function, their page has fixes which ended working for me:

https://newpipe.app/common-issues/

*Edit: also give it the option to switch to invidious API if the default fails; for a slightly more seamless experience

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UnrepentantAlgebra 3 points 2 years ago

Have you updated recently? A few weeks ago there were some changes to YouTube that basically shut down newpipe and other similar clients, but an update should have fixed that.

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GregorGizeh 1 point 2 years ago

Just reinstalled to make sure, but didn't help (see other comment)

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Viking_Hippie 2 points 2 years ago

Far as I can tell, that's the one I get when opening in Firefox and then switching to desktop mode.

Everything except geo-blocked vids works perfectly now that I have NewPipe set as the default app for all YouTube links, though, are you sure yours is updated?

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GregorGizeh 1 point 2 years ago

I use the same setup as you, opening all YouTube links in the app. I just checked again, I have the latest fdroid version which is 3 weeks old and the issue persists, also did a reinstall for good measure.

I also have the tubular fork installed from the latest apk, and it has the exact same issue.

I also tried from different locations via VPN but nothing helps :/

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Kethal 1 point 2 years ago

You might need to update. Occasionally Google changes how YouTube works which requires NewPipe to change. You can get the latest version faster by adding the newpipe repository to fdroid. https://newpipe.net/...

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tomjuggler 1 point 2 years ago

PipePipe from f-droid is a clone that seems to update more frequently than newpipe, and has the additional benefit of being able to access the Chinese and Japanese video sites bilibili and niconico (worth checking out, it's fascinating even for someone who doesn't speak the languages)

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hungryphrog 2 points 2 years ago

hell yea

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CeeBee_Eh 1 point 2 years ago

http://greyjay.app/

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notannpc 5 points 2 years ago

Well that might just completely kill YouTube on mobile for me. The only way to watch on my phone without their ads.

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Viking_Hippie 5 points 2 years ago

Or you could use NewPipe

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monobot 2 points 2 years ago

I am slowly switching back to podcasts, it is only question of time when yt quality goes bellow usability, they are dancing around that thin line like with search.

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imaginepayingforred 1 point 2 years ago

This is why I jailbreaked my iPhone

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AceFuzzLord 4 points 2 years ago

I tried last night to view a video I saw someone on SpaceHey had in their main page and couldn't do it on my phone or desktop browser. Phone wasn't in any way doing anything outside of the standard ublock origin on Mull, which has never had issues if I ever needed an "emergency" yt lookup. Desktop browser Firefox based with libredirect wasn't working since I've been having issues connecting and using Invidious and Piped instances for a while.

Ended up having to switch to Freetube on my desktop to view the video and it was worth it. The errors I kept getting where to sign in to confirm I'm not a bot.

This was the video (assuming the instance is still up in the future)

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Rexelpitlum 1 point 2 years ago

Embedded Video worked for me in mobile browser.

Fennec with ublock und Noscript.

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mrvictory1 1 point 2 years ago

Mobile browser worked for me, I used m.youtube.com instead of invidious

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CeeBee_Eh 4 points 2 years ago

Install GreyJay

http://greyjay.app/

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imaginepayingforred 1 point 2 years ago

Finally a post that isn't about politics

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Maggoty 1 point 2 years ago

Don't worry, it'll let up after November 4th, December 1st, January 6th, January 20th, Second Appomattox.

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MonkderVierte 0 points 2 years ago

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Viking_Hippie 8 points 2 years ago

Tried that, didn't work for me.

Making NewPipe the default app for all YouTube links did, though 🙂

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MonkderVierte 1 point 2 years ago

Wait, how then? Via screen resolution?

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Viking_Hippie 3 points 2 years ago

If you're using Android, it's Settings > Apps > Choose Default Apps > Opening Links > NewPipe and just select the relevant domains such as youtube.com and youtu.be

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MonkderVierte 3 points 2 years ago

My bad. I meant how they detect that you're on mobile. 😂

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ThatWeirdGuy1001 0 points 2 years ago

This is why I've always been confused about people telling me to use an ad-blocker. How tf does that help with the app?

I have NewPipe now so it's not a problem.

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wreckedcarzz 1 point 2 years ago

"this ad blocker doesn't help with solving my not-at-ad issue! what good is it?!"

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ThatWeirdGuy1001 1 point 2 years ago

I mean the ads on the app are just as bad

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wreckedcarzz 1 point 2 years ago

Those are baked into the app, though

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ThatWeirdGuy1001 1 point 2 years ago

See idk how all that shit works which is why I've always been confused.

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kazaika 0 points 2 years ago

UserAgent -> google chrome desktoo

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Leg -1 points 2 years ago

Install desktoo

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BlackLaZoR -33 points 2 years ago

Use Odysee ffs.

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Viking_Hippie 34 points 2 years ago

I was curious so I googled searched on duckduckgo for it

attempting to solve some of these problems with blockchain technology.

Welcome to whiteboard crypto, the #1 Youtube channel for crypto education

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kitnaht 21 points 2 years ago

If Odysee wasn't filled with so much racist, misinformed, crypto-slinging bullshit, maybe normal people would actually use it. Right now, the best solution is joining someone's patreon.

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BlackLaZoR -24 points 2 years ago

If Odysee wasn't filled with so much racist, misinformed, crypto-slinging bullshit

Deal with it. Otherwise you'll take every single monopolistic abuse from Google, and you'll just complain and keep using it

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kitnaht 17 points 2 years ago

I am dealing with it: By not using it.

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moon 5 points 2 years ago

We are lol, the monopolistic bullshit from Google is still better then that alt-right crypto hell hole.

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Wistful 6 points 2 years ago

And watch what exactly?

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possiblylinux127 4 points 2 years ago

I'm not a Nazi

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BlackLaZoR -2 points 2 years ago

Would using Odysee turn you into one?

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possiblylinux127 4 points 2 years ago

Yes

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BlackLaZoR -4 points 2 years ago

-_-

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