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Dark_Arc 104 points 2 years ago

I've had friends 20 or 30 years older for well over a decade.

... your son is an adult. I think you're being the weird ones about this personally.

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_bcron_ 71 points 2 years ago
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lennybird 42 points 2 years ago

Not quite the same gap but I grew to be good friends with a work buddy in his 40s when I was 25.

Throughout my life I tended to connect better with people older than me.

But if you have bad vibes beyond just the age then it may be worth talking candidly with your son about your concerns.

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ThatGiantCameron 41 points 2 years ago

At age 17 I made friends with a coworker in their 40s. I found out he was into D&D and he invited me to sit in on a game. Now I'm 30 and I been playing with this group of now 50-60 year old dudes every Sunday since. Age gap isn't strange but if your getting weird vibes maybe have a chat with your son about your concerns, but he is an adult in college now. He will likely have many connections of all ages.

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Passerby6497 31 points 2 years ago

This man has just started university now at this age because apparently he was born poor and in the first half of his life was focused on making money, but medicine is a dream of his.

So the guy worked to get to a place where he could reasonably go back to school to do something he's passionate about.

Son has always been an introverted, shy, socially awkward kid with little friends, but now goes out often.

Going to college will do that, what's the issue? Is it impacting his grades?

Honestly my wife & I are uncomfortable, and we can’t help but side eye the dude.

Why are you uncomfortable? What about the guy is off-putting to you? And are you really untrustworthy of the guy, or uncomfortable about the new choices in behavior your kid is exhibiting now that he has autonomy?

With how little information is provided, I can only fall back on my own experience as a kid with an over protective parent who had to be explicitly told to let me be an adult, and I get similar vibes. But that could just be my experience coloring your post.

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nightride -7 points 2 years ago
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Nollij 26 points 2 years ago

What, specifically, are you concerned they might do, or might become? Are you afraid this might become a predatory sexual relationship? That he might become codependent? That the older guy is immature and will be a bad influence?

When you can define your concerns, it will reveal what action (if any) is appropriate.

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conciselyverbose 2 points 2 years ago

It's not odd. If that's who you interact with, that's who you'll be friends with.

Age is a number, and friendship with someone with life experience isn't going to hurt anyone.

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sasquash 30 points 2 years ago

Personally, I think it's nice to have friends who are older or younger.

If you feel uncomfortable maybe try to get to know him.

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coolkicks 24 points 2 years ago

As a 40 something man, I’ve found that my friend groups tend to shift by life stage more than age.

We have friends that are 10-15 years older than us because our kids are the same age, and we have friends that are 10-15 years younger than us because we have overlapping hobbies or work together.

At this point in my life, I don’t even bother finding out someone’s age until I’d consider them friends, because it doesn’t matter if we’ve found something we connect over.

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Squirrelsdrivemenuts 20 points 2 years ago

There were some older people at my university and they always sadly had a lot of trouble making friends and fitting in. Be glad your son is a good guy who doesnt judge people by their age.

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arin 19 points 2 years ago

I see why your son has no friends, not his issue tho, it's the side eyeing

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tagoth 17 points 2 years ago

Every single person I have met that goes to college later in life are driven to meet their objectives regardless of their starting conditions and environments and generally a good influence to everyone around them. Since you are around his age, it should be easy to imagine what it would take for someone with his background to stay determined and commit to study for years as a 41 year old. I understand why you may be worried but it may honestly be better for your child to be around with someone older who has had time to work on themselves, know where they are going and willing to commit to get there.

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intensely_human 3 points 2 years ago

I understand why you may be worried

What’s the reason? They’re worried about this guy fucking their son? Or is it more that they’re worried he’ll give their son a second opinion about what the world looks like to middle aged people?

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AmidFuror 6 points 2 years ago

Possibly that he will use his many more years of experience living as an adult to manipulate their son.

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Ulvain 16 points 2 years ago

It doesn't have to be creepy or problematic, but your son would have to know what worrying things to look out for. Nothing wrong with having a chat saying "hey just because large age gap friendships are rarer, i wanted to make sure you're on your guard..but your friend might be awesome, just have your eyes open".

What specifically worries you?

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nightride 3 points 2 years ago
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MentalEdge 15 points 2 years ago

Of course you can't.

But picture putting your life on hold for 30 years. Would you not then feel extremely out of place with your own "peers" who didn't do that?

Age isn't really what defines where you're at as a person, that's stuff like culture, hobbies, career, education. People don't connect over being the same age. They connect over stuff like video games, philosophy, books, nerding out about their industry, how that one class at school sucks, etc.

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treefrog 7 points 2 years ago
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Beldarofremulak 5 points 2 years ago
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nightride 1 point 2 years ago
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illi 4 points 2 years ago

If you go to uni, hanging out with people aroind your son's age is implied. I bet the guy might feel out of place as well - but consider he is now living his dream of studying in university. He is surrounded by 18 year olds and he has two options - be isolated for nothing but his age or make friends and experience life he couldn't experience when his age was appropriate for it.

It is likely your son and this guy just clicked. When I was around 16 I had a great virtual friendship (played World of Warcraft together, only met once) with a guy in his 30s. We also just clicked. I'd say he was my best friend in that guild. We are not in contact anymore but I still remember that friendship fondly.

I understand your concerns as a father and I'd recommend discussing it with your son with open mind. Friendship is just friendship, I don't think there is an age limit on it.

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Treble 2 points 2 years ago

I'm a shy, awkward soul that never felt 'in sync' w/ my generation. Old people rock, life would be a lot more empty without them.

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jqubed 1 point 2 years ago

I don’t think those of us on the Internet have enough info to truly jump in one way or another. The only area I would really be concerned about the age gap myself would be if the age gap is being used as a power imbalance to induce the younger one into dangerous behavior, like a sexual relationship, drugs, or taking advantage of them financially. Do you think anything like that is happening, or do you have the vibe that something like that could happen?

If it’s just that you can’t imagine hanging out with someone so young, you might want to consider that this guy is at a different point in life than you, even if he’s about the same age as you. If you’re around 40 but already have an 18-year-old kid in college. That would mean you became a father in your early 20s. It probably means you were married, perhaps fresh out of college. You’ve lived life as a parent for a couple decades now, in fact you could be just a few years away from becoming a grandparent. In contrast, if this guy’s been hustling to make money from a young age and an impoverished background, and is only just now starting college, he’s probably had to put a lot of those life experiences on hold. I’m guessing he doesn’t have kids himself since it’s pretty challenging to pay for college and med school of you also are paying to raise children. He might not even be married. I got married relatively later, in my mid-30s. As I got older I hung out with a wider age range, older and younger, but primarily single people. As my friends got married I saw them pretty rarely, not because I didn’t want to hang out with married people but mostly because married people tend to do things with other married people or just themselves. Now that I’m married I try to reach out to my single friends, but frankly it’s hard as a married parent to fit them in.

All that’s to say, just because you can’t imagine hanging out with someone that much younger than you, it doesn’t mean no one else can for completely innocent reasons. This guy might even see it as an almost mentor-like relationship, seeing this awkward kid who doesn’t get out much and helping him grow socially and find interests he enjoys. There are some areas where an older friend can be helpful in ways a parent simply can’t be.

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wise_pancake 13 points 2 years ago

I had a friend with that same age gap in university, he was actually a great influence because he had life experience.

He was basically retired from his first career and taking classes for fun, awesome dude.

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Aviandelight 6 points 2 years ago

I went to community college for my first two years and only had adult friends. It was exactly what I needed at the time because they shared their life experience with me and it was immensely helpful in making my own good decisions. Now in my 40s my husband and I are the older friends in our game group who do the same for our 20-something friends. We even convinced one of them to get his GED and had a big celebration for him once he got it when his own family blew him off over it. You have to make your own community where you can and older people outside of family have value too.

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NoneOfUrBusiness 11 points 2 years ago

So I have two things to say about this. First, you should know that this is very much a thing. I'm in kind of an opposite situation as a younger expat in a country where people from my country tend to be older, and people can and will get along regardless of age when they're put in the same place; it just doesn't happen often because the way modern society works ends up with people being basically sorted by age.

Second, as someone who grew up with overprotective parents trying to control how your son acts will never end well. Seriously it can be infuriating to be on the receiving end of that, so if you care about your relationship with your son know that there are very few situations where it's okay to control who your adult son associates with, and just being "uncomfortable" is not one of them.

Edit: Messed up a word.

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nightride -5 points 2 years ago
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neatchee 11 points 2 years ago

I think their point was: even if you're uncomfortable, what are you going to do about it? Interfering in any way - even just suggesting that this relationship is a problem - is controlling.

As another reply said, if you want to say something like "I'm not implying anything about this guy, but it does remind me to make certain you know the signs of predatory relationships", that's probably a good thing.

Just know that your son may react defensively at the perceived threat to his first meaningful friendship outside his home town (even if you're not actually a threat), and you have to let that be okay.

For the record, I'm 40 and have had friendships that started in my early 20s with people much older than me, and am currently friends with some kids in their 20s. Especially for introverts and people with niche hobbies, there's a lot more care for shared interests than social norms like age gap.

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nightride 1 point 2 years ago
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NoneOfUrBusiness 3 points 2 years ago

I mean that's true but then what kind of response were you expecting? Any way of channeling that discomfort you mentioned into productive action will end up as control.

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Revonult 10 points 2 years ago

Friend is friend

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Roflmasterbigpimp 9 points 2 years ago

Nothing to worry about. I've met many older guys who just don’t "fit in" with their age group. For example, some are more liberal than others in their generation and tend to connect much better with younger people.

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MentalEdge 9 points 2 years ago

The age gap itself is absolutely not a problem. Is he a good person? Finding out can be more than a little tricky, and you risk coming off a bit like helicopter parents at best, and grossly overbearing at worst.

Your own son is not a child anymore. He is perfectly capable of independent thought and judgement. Is he good at it yet? Probably not, but the only way for that to change is practice.

Still, you can't keep him on a leash anymore, so trusting him to navigate life on his own isn't optional.

Make it clear that whatever happens your son can come to you for support. And tell him, explicitly, that you understand that ultimately, as a legal adult, your son has final say in how he lives life.

Once I was legally an adult, my parents made it very clear that my life choices were now up to me, but that they'd always show concern for me, and always help and support me, if I ask. They give unsolicited advice at times, but they do not try to make decisions for me, and I adore them for it.

There are tons of things about my life I've kept, and keep, from my parents, but never anything big or serious about my well-being. Their unconditional willingness to let me make my own mistakes, and be helpful rather than judgemental when I do, has ensured I will always turn to them in times of need.

Once your kid is control of their own life, that's kind of the best you can hope for.

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Boomkop3 8 points 2 years ago

One of my best friends is nearly 70, I'm 27. We met when I was 17 or something, and we're both very autistic. (like a lot of my friends)

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

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Eyedust 7 points 2 years ago

I used to play Star Wars 4th Edition Pen and Paper RPG with a 40 year old and his 32 year old wife when I was 16. They were just harmless geeks, like me.

If anything, my mom making snarky comments about the 40 year old guy really soured our relationship for a while. My friend who was my age and who also played with us sent her a picture in the mail of the 3 of us holding hands under a rainbow. She was pissed.

It's fine. Your son could just as easily be friends with someone his age that's a psychopath. It's in the person, not the age. At 18 you're going to have to trust his judgement a little more.

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Libb 7 points 2 years ago

Honestly my wife & I are uncomfortable, and we can’t help but side eye the dude.

To me that sounds much more like a (both of) you issue, more than an issue for either your son or his new friend. Why do you worry so much?

Nothing should prevent two persons appreciating one another to feel free to do so, be it as friends or more if affinity. Mandatory disclaimer since we now live full time in a very bad remake of Idiocracy: Im talking about two persons of legal age.

My suggestion to both your spouse and to you would be one that has already been made: try to know the guy better, maybe?

To which I would add this (sorry if this sounds harsh, I can write it much more delicately in French, if you prefer):

Your son is now an adult and he is beginning his new live. If you want to stay a relevant part of his life remember that he most likely will not choose his friends, nor his sex partner(s), nor his spouse in order to please or to reassure you. He has started building his own life, not an extension of yours.

That said, you should also feel free to tell him your worries and any doubt you may have, obviously. Just, remember that he is not 'your son' anymore, I mean he is, but he is also an adult person 100% free to make his own choices, like you are. And remember that it's one thing to share your questions and doubts with him, it's another thing to demand explanations or to tell him what he should (not) do, and with whom.

Life is all about making choice and accepting as a fact that will we make mistakes. At all age. And it is so for all of us—not just for your son.

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KazuyaDarklight 6 points 2 years ago

Everyone's an adult, nothing's weird until things get weird.

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obinice 6 points 2 years ago

Depends entirely on the person. I have friends that are a similar age gap to the one you mentioned, it just never occurred to me to think of it as weird.

We're all into the same hobby and that's how we met, but we also like similar video games, music, TV, etc, so there's plenty to talk about and have a friendship around. I don't think about their age really at all, it just doesn't come up.

But yeah, it entirely depends on the individual, on both ends. You can have a weirdo older person, you can have a weirdo 18 year old. Just got to weigh up a person and try to figure out what their deal is :-)

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Adderbox76 6 points 2 years ago

I long ago stopped thinking about biological age (not in that way...get your mind out of the gutter), and started thinking more in terms of social age.

I'm 48. But I'm divorced, no kids, live alone and most of my biological peers are married with kids, and even some grandparents by now. As a result, my friend group consists mostly of people in their mid to late 30s who are closer to me in terms of current life status.

In that respect, there really is no difference between anywhere from late 20s to late 40s I would say. However...

41 to 18 is a little odd. I have employees around that age and I generally look at them as kids, not peers, even though we all work together.

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Kit 6 points 2 years ago

I was in a similar boat and became close friends with a coworker in his 50s when I was in my early 20s. He became a mentor of sorts who helped to guide me through a lot of young adult issues, and I was thankful for him. I'd encourage you to be open minded about your son's friendship unless you are sensing red flags from his friend.

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Rhynoplaz 5 points 2 years ago

I work at a college and I used to have some great conversations with one of our student workers about board games, math and other dorky stuff. He graduated earlier this year, and I miss talking to him. I learned a lot from that kid.

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theluddite 5 points 2 years ago

When I was 21 I joined a big band that had people from their late teens to their mid 70s. I think of everyone in that band as something like family, and it was one of the most enriching experiences of my life. Like all friendships, it's case by case. There are shitty people and there are cool people. Your son is an adult and has to learn to distinguish between those. We do live in a world where inter-generational friendships are rare, and maybe that means that there's a higher chance that this guy is odd, but to foreclose on inter-generational friendships seems pretty impoverishing. This guy's background and life experience is probably really different from that of your son. Developing close friendships with people like that is important. Had I not, especially at a young age, I'd be a very different person.

Or he could be a weirdo 🤷

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Hegar 5 points 2 years ago

One of my friends of at uni was a woman in her 60s. She told me that in her experience young people who could make friends with mature age students tended to have healthy relationships with their parents.

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dragonfucker 3 points 2 years ago

This is down to his ability to recognise dangerous situations. This is the test of how well you've taught him to protect himself. It's never too late for some last minute cramming, but you also need to make it clear you trust his judgement, or he won't trust your judgement either.

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criitz 1 point 2 years ago
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NeoNachtwaechter -15 points 2 years ago

Right you are.

Try to get some advice from people (real people in real life, not internet strangers) outside of your own family.

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NoneOfUrBusiness 5 points 2 years ago

If anything it seems your experiences are narrow if you think friendship across large age gaps is impossible or a cause for worry.

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