In rural West Texas, a measles outbreak grows with no end in sight

a year ago by MicroWave to c/news

At least 49 cases have been confirmed. Health officials — who are scrambling to get a handle on the vaccine-preventable outbreak — suspect 200 to 300 people may be infected.

Summary

A measles outbreak in rural West Texas has surged to 49 confirmed cases, mostly among unvaccinated school-age children, with officials suspecting hundreds more unreported infections.

The outbreak is centered in Gaines County, home to a large Mennonite population with low vaccination rates. Despite CDC support, Texas has not requested federal intervention.

The outbreak has now spread to Lubbock, raising wider public health concerns.

Experts warn it could persist for months without increased vaccination efforts, but skepticism toward vaccines remains a significant barrier.

CosmicTurtle0 125 points a year ago

The part that sucks in all of this: the children who died didn't choose to not get the vaccine. Their parents did.

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Serinus 65 points a year ago

They might not die. They might just go blind or dead or have brain damage.

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Spacehooks 34 points a year ago

But no autism! Cause that's wOrSt PoSsIbLe thing!

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TaiCrunch 18 points a year ago

As the parent of an autistic child, I'd much rather him be alive and autistic than killed by a completely preventative means.

Of course, that doesn't even matter because vaccines don't fucking cause autism.

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aeternum 10 points a year ago
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Lucidlethargy 7 points a year ago

Man... That's a good point. These people are so fucked up.

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GreenKnight23 43 points a year ago
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iowagneiss 14 points a year ago

Works in mysterious ways, right?

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Bbbbbbbbbbb 5 points a year ago

Damn, lucky kids. If only the rest of us could get a guiltless exit. (No Im not suicidal)

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Sauerkraut 7 points a year ago

Sending you a virtual hug. Life is hard and everyone needs hugs now and then

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Flocklesscrow 4 points a year ago

Correct.

Not vaccinating your children should be cited as child abuse. Because, it is.

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HowAbt2morrow 98 points a year ago

How bad are the measles, really? Asking because I was born in the 1st fucking world and never met anyone under a 100 that met someone with it.

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NaibofTabr 99 points a year ago

We think of measles as a minor viral infection of kids that causes fever, rash, and a runny nose, and goes away without major complications. Unfortunately, that is not always so. Nervous system disease is a particular problem. SSPE occurs as a late, fatal measles complication in one out of 1,367 cases of measles in children younger than 5. One out of 1,000 children with measles gets an infection of the brain (encephalitis) early in the course of measles. About 15% of children with measles encephalitis die. Measles encephalitis led to the death of the writer Roald Dahl's daughter Olivia.

Children's brains can also develop an allergic reaction to the measles virus several weeks after infection. This is called acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM). Children seem to recover, then get fever, confusion, headaches, and neck stiffness. Like SSPE and measles encephalitis, ADEM occurs in about one out of 1,000 cases of measles. It is fatal in 10% to 20% of patients. Survivors of measles encephalitis and ADEM often have epilepsy, brain damage, or developmental delay.

Measles has other serious complications. During pregnancy, it causes miscarriages. Measles can infect the cornea, and was once a common cause of blindness. Ear infections and hearing loss are frequent. Measles virus also infects the lungs, causing pneumonia in 3% to 4% of cases. Measles weakens the immune system for at least two months. Sometimes patients die of other infections immediately after they recover from measles. In a measles epidemic that killed more than 3,000 soldiers in the US Army in 1917–18, bacterial pneumonia was the major cause of death.

Measles: The forgotten killer - John Ross, MD, FIDSA, Contributor; Editorial Advisory Board Member, Harvard Health Publishing

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minkymunkey_7_7 65 points a year ago

Essentially, when you're infected with measles, your immune system abruptly forgets every pathogen it's ever encountered before – every cold, every bout of flu, every exposure to bacteria or viruses in the environment, every vaccination. The loss is near-total and permanent. Once the measles infection is over, current evidence suggests that your body has to re-learn what's good and what's bad almost from scratch. https://www.bbc.com/...

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Kitathalla 18 points a year ago

current evidence suggests that your body has to re-learn what’s good and what’s bad almost from scratch

While that's horrifying, I wonder if it could offer a glimpse into ways to get rid of allergies.

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null_dot 5 points a year ago

Wow that's nuts.

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Serinus 9 points a year ago

Well, that sounds pretty bad, but how contagious is it?

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sapient_cogbag 28 points a year ago

Extremely, iirc. According to wikipedia:

It is extremely contagious: nine out of ten people who are not immune and share living space with an infected person will be infected.[5] Furthermore, measles's reproductive number estimates vary beyond the frequently cited range of 12 to 18,[17] with a 2017 review giving a range of 3.7 to 203.3

For context the reproductive number (average number of unexposed people a carrier will infect) of the most virulent strains of COVID-19 is 3-8. See: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35262737/ (basic vs effective rate refers to the infectiveness in a naive population vs one which is taking measures and/or has immunity).

This is also all exponential so small increases in R number have big impacts nya.

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Serinus 18 points a year ago

Pretty sure measles is the one where you can catch it by just walking into a room where someone where an infected person was two hours ago.

Imagine it's third period trig and you caught measles from the kid who was in first period trig without ever having seen him.

It's bad. Afaik measles is the most contagious disease we've ever seen.

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teamevil 12 points a year ago
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CharlesDarwin 6 points a year ago

Yeah, but this doesn't happen if you eat right, work out, get your chakras aligned and get enough vitamin D from sunshine, right?

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NaibofTabr 6 points a year ago

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CharlesDarwin 3 points a year ago

IKR? This is what it has come to...definitely not serious, BTW.

But the level of Poe's Law has only gotten worse with time, it seems.

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unemployedclaquer 3 points a year ago
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NaibofTabr 9 points a year ago

I appreciate the thought, but I just copied and pasted Dr. Ross's article. Bestof should probably be kept for things produced by community members.

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tunetardis 45 points a year ago

I have no first-hand experience with it either, but understand that in addition to its direct shitty flu-like symptoms and the telltale rash, it has this strange ability to factory reset your immune system so you get to go through all those other diseases your body fought off in the past again.

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otp 14 points a year ago

Vaccinations too.

Y'know...maybe that's why the anti-vaxxers want measles. And want it to make a comeback.

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reddig33 25 points a year ago

“In the US, 20 percent of people with measles are typically hospitalized. Five percent develop pneumonia, and up to 3 in 1,000 die of the infection. In rare cases, measles can cause a fatal disease of the central nervous system called Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, which develops years after infection. Measles also wipes out immune responses to other infections (a phenomenon known as immune amnesia), making people vulnerable to other infectious diseases.”

https://arstechnica.com/...

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OutlierBlue 9 points a year ago

In the US, 20 percent of people with measles are typically hospitalized.

1 in 5 people with measles are hospitalized. Good thing they've got socialized healthcare to cover that!

Oh... wait.

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thallamabond 24 points a year ago path: 0 15117353 15117876, hotness: undefined, score: 24, children: 0
prole 13 points a year ago

REALLY fucking bad

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LMurch 13 points a year ago path: 0 15117353 15119778, hotness: undefined, score: 13, children: 0
jeffw 8 points a year ago

Compared to a lot of terrible shit, less bad? But still bad. You’d have to be young or old to die from it with modern medicine.

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ThePantser 28 points a year ago

modern medicine.

So with RFK we're doomed.

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spankmonkey 21 points a year ago

modern medicine.

Like vaccines!

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FauxLiving 3 points a year ago

Sorry, we can't talk about illegal drugs.

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cm0002 5 points a year ago

Isn't the measles the one where you can live with modern medicine, but you're still likely to be disfigured possibly even paralyzed in some manner? Or is that the mumps I'm thinking of?

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jeffw 16 points a year ago

Are you thinking of polio?

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Mirshe 2 points a year ago

If you JUST get measles, you should be fine. The issue is the potential for immune amnesia - meaning the potential for opportunistic infection is incredibly high, as is the potential for that infection to become serious.

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TehWorld 1 point a year ago

If there is a bed available at the hospital, and you can afford the extra expense.

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negativenull 96 points a year ago

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Etterra 24 points a year ago

Roadkill RFK will be harvesting their dead for food. Allegedly.

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explodicle 9 points a year ago

Even worse, he'll leave them in Central Park.

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Red_October 69 points a year ago

I hope some day we can invent some sort of treatment that could prevent kids from ever getting this disease.

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NauticalNoodle 19 points a year ago

My greatest fear is that we will never find the cure for being an idiot. I know for some people that the disease is fatal.

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utopiah 5 points a year ago

Luckily for you we'll soon be able to test your fear "Trump’s education secretary may be asked to dismantle the Education Department. Here’s what it does" https://apnews.com/... AP February 2025

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Joeffect 14 points a year ago

Like why don't they just make something that makes the disease not hurt us and then put it in our bodies... Why do they have to have all this lab processed shit that they don't actually know what it does and try to put it in our bodies...

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Corkyskog 8 points a year ago

You know what's interesting is that the first real anti-vaxxers started because old vaccines would use pus from an infected cow. Something about it being unholy worship of cow or some nonsense.

Now the anti-vaxx crowd is all crying about synthetics... Can't make anyone happy.

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CharlesDarwin 13 points a year ago

The truly OG anti-vaxxers had some among them that thought it was against their god's will to combat disease, if you can fucking believe it (people are stupid and horrible, it turns out):

https://newrepublic.com/...

To treat small pox was seen as a form of blasphemy—a moral evil that refused to recognize that epidemics were acts of God.

I just don't understand how such a "god" could be worthy of worship, then. Imagine losing 9 children before they reached adulthood. I'd flip this "god" of theirs the bird, and try the cure, thankyouveryfuckingmuch.

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Joeffect 5 points a year ago

Well puss is gross man...

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Red_October 4 points a year ago

I had this idea, like what if we used our own cells to make some of the identifying surface proteins of viruses and stuff, and use that to train our immune system on what to look for. We wouldn't even need to cultivate the pathogen itself at all.

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Joeffect 2 points a year ago

Your using big words... You must be one of them folks we have to stab with our pitchforks... Get the hell out of here

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Gammelfisch 1 point a year ago

Anti-vax adults should not have children.

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GraniteM 60 points a year ago

Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old. As the illness took its usual course I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it. Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of coloured pipe-cleaners, and when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn’t do anything.

“Are you feeling all right?” I asked her.

“I feel all sleepy,” she said.

In an hour, she was unconscious. In twelve hours she was dead.

Roald Dahl, pleading with people to vaccinate their children against measles.

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Raiderkev 12 points a year ago

And much like a novel of his works, a bunch of kids are going to have to die for us to figure this out.

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Dnb 10 points a year ago

Maybe we can call them late term abortions to get Republicans to actually give a fuck about all the kids harmed by anti vaccination

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CharlesDarwin 9 points a year ago

According to the doctors from the DoYourOwnResearch University - like donvict, Joe Rogan, and Brainworms - it's probably because she didn't eat properly, get enough sunshine, and work out. Maybe a dose of HCQ or horse dewormer to top it off and she's be in top-top shape. And getting those chakras aligned...

Obviously, /s

Anti-vaxxers and the bullshit artists calling themselves "skeptics" (they are NOT FUCKING SKEPTICS, by the way - the abuse of that term is maddening) drive me crazy. They can all go fuck themselves. They are fine with killing people, even children, rather than admit they have no fucking clue what they are talking about. It's all about them and their goddamn ego.

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Lettuceeatlettuce 33 points a year ago

Measles? Isn't there a vaccine for tha...oh...whoops...

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LMurch 11 points a year ago

Oopsies.

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tunetardis 33 points a year ago

So from what lemmy is reporting, we know West Texas has a measles outbreak and some giant fracking earthquake to contend with. Maybe toss in some radioactive exposure from a now-unmonitored nuclear facility and we've got the makings of a superhero origin story.

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harrys_balzac 23 points a year ago

In West Texas? It'll be a supervillain.

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Azal 9 points a year ago

That's a world with hope.

We'll just get an infectious form of super-cancer that's spread by mutant mosquitoes.

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riskable 9 points a year ago

we've got the makings of a superhero origin story zombie apocalypse.

FTFY

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P00ptart 2 points a year ago

Even better! Let's do this!

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Dagwood222 7 points a year ago

It's adorable that you think a hero would come out of Texas...

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CharlesDarwin 2 points a year ago

Wait, didn't Preacher come out of Texas?

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Dagwood222 2 points a year ago

Written by a guy from Northern Ireland.

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MyRobotShitsBolts 1 point a year ago

Walker Texas ranger would like a word with you.

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Dagwood222 1 point a year ago

https://www.texastribune.org/...

The original purpose of the Rangers was to kill Indians and capture escaped slaves. They were killing native Texans with the wrong color skin for decades.

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prole 5 points a year ago

In reality they just end up with a debilitating form of cancer, and die penniless under a bridge.

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Canadian_anarchist 1 point a year ago

With homelessness becoming increasingly illegal, they'll die in some kind of work gulag... sorry, "freedom" camp.

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Buelldozer 28 points a year ago

Religious nuts.

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Hobbes_Dent 12 points a year ago

Careful.

Sec. 2.  Establishing a Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias.  (a)  There is hereby established within the Department of Justice the Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias (Task Force).\
     (b)  The Attorney General shall serve as Chair of the Task Force.\
     (c)  In addition to the Chair, the Task Force shall consist of the following other members:\
          (i)     the Secretary of State;\
          (ii)    the Secretary of the Treasury;\
          (iii)   the Secretary of Defense;\
          (iv)    the Secretary of Labor;\
          (v)     the Secretary of Health and Human Services;\
          (vi)    the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development;\
          (vii)   the Secretary of Education;\
          (viii)  the Secretary of Veterans Affairs;\
          (ix)    the Secretary of Homeland Security;\
          (x)     the Director of the Office of Management and Budget;\
          (xi)    Representative of the United States of America to the United Nations;\
          (xii)   the Administrator of the Small Business Administration;\
          (xiii)  the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation;\
          (xiv)   the Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy;\
          (xv)    the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency;\
          (xvi)   the Chair of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission; and\
          (xvii)  the heads of such other executive departments, agencies, and offices that the Chair may, from time to time, invite to participate.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/...

Kinda worried posting myself and I’m not american owned yet. Which is my way of saying that I don’t insinuate you’re American, just it’s that absurd.

Everybody expects this inquisition.

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isolatedscotch 2 points a year ago
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chatokun 1 point a year ago

Lots of Christian types aren't catholic, so wouldn't care what he said.

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homesweethomeMrL 26 points a year ago

lol Texas.

Hey, trump says drinking rat feces smoothies will help with that.

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blueamigafan 23 points a year ago

Lost my uncle at the height of covid because he wouldn't get vaccinated, apparently because he thought it was population control not sure how many more kids he was going to have at 70 but there we go. He basically spent too long on nonsense Facebook pages and the inevitable happened, all because some random people online convinced him and they will never be held to account.

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mysticpickle 23 points a year ago

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Majorllama 21 points a year ago

My God. If only there was some sort of preventative measure they could have taken!

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CharlesDarwin 11 points a year ago

Well, their god is maybe the problem:

https://newrepublic.com/...

The anti-vaccine movement today is not solely religious in character, but much of its rhetoric is identical to theological arguments made against inoculation more than three hundred years ago. As the Florida-based organization KNOW (“Kids Need Options Without Vaccines”), puts it, “All vaccines are made in violation of God’s Word.” Such thinking is partly responsible for the worst measles epidemic in twenty years.

If you think your god wants you and/or your kids to die from preventable diseases, maybe it's time for a new one?

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Flocklesscrow 2 points a year ago

So they're saying God is either impotent, or callously cruel? Yeah, definitely dedicate your life to worshipping that. Brilliant logic.

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Dasus 19 points a year ago

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riskable 18 points a year ago

“It’s not that they’re not educated. It’s just what their belief is they're complete idiots.”

FTFY

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Etterra 17 points a year ago

Good thing everyone I know is vaccinated.

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ayyy 9 points a year ago

Vaccines aren’t anywhere near 100% effective, they rely on herd immunity which means enough people have to have the vaccine so the disease can’t get a foothold and goes extinct.

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Treczoks 5 points a year ago

While they might not be 100% effective, but 99% or even 90% are good enough to stop a disease from getting a problem.

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serenissi 1 point a year ago

Some vaccines need to be 100% reliable like the tetanus one. The bacteria live in soil everywhere. Herd immunity isn't going to do a thing there.

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ayyy 1 point a year ago

Correct, but sometimes you have to distill information into one sentence for it to sink into people’s heads. It’s baffling to me that everyone didn’t learn the basic science of vaccines during the pandemic, but here we still are.

The true and actionable message is that “fuck you, I got mine” is generally a useless and dangerous attitude towards almost every vaccine.

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serenissi 1 point a year ago

Btw is this antivax thing mostly American and Pakistani? I don't recall seeing news about this from other countries.

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PattyMcB 17 points a year ago

Keep refusing vaccines, dummies

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harrys_balzac 9 points a year ago

bUt MaH bElEaFs!?!!

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PattyMcB 10 points a year ago

FReEdUmBs!!!

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pyre 16 points a year ago

remember who did this. it's not over.

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Professorozone 16 points a year ago

MOSTLY unvaccinated? How many vaccinated people got the measles?

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jonne 28 points a year ago

Vaccines aren't 100% effective, the way they work is mostly through herd immunity, where an epidemic effectively peters out due to lack of viable hosts. Depending on the infectiousness of the pathogen, a +90% vaccination rate is usually enough to keep an infection from breaking through.

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normalexit 16 points a year ago

Two doses of the measles vaccine are approximately 97% effective at preventing measles. Certainly not 100%, but not too shabby.

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CharlesDarwin 7 points a year ago

herd immunity

What is especially irritating is that the conspiracy theorists latch onto this terminology as "proof" that the "globalists" view you as a herd animal...

Another unfortunate thing is how the term "theory" in a scientific sense is very different from the layperson's use of that word...

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Anysia 6 points a year ago

Immunity wanes over time. There's probably adults getting it.

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Professorozone 2 points a year ago

Well for crying out loud... That's me. I don't live in Texas but I live in the next worst state, Florida. Is there a booster?

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threshold_dweller 4 points a year ago

Ask your doctor for the MMR vaccine. Iirc you are more likely to get side-effects as an adult, but that beats getting measles.

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Hobbes_Dent 3 points a year ago

I redid my entire childhood vaccinations at age 40 because my small home town had no records and I needed proof - to like, look after sick people. No problems, no side effects.

You can get MMR at travel clinics around here. So it cost me like $15 to avoid even needing to ask a doctor.

Sigh.

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Norgoroth 14 points a year ago

It stops when all the unvaxxed kids die

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ShaggySnacks 14 points a year ago

Measles to the left me, bird flu to the right me, stuck in the middle of both of them.

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HighFructoseLowStand 13 points a year ago

They will continue to die and let their children die to spite the rest of us.

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Freefall 13 points a year ago

Hahaha, that is really funny. People in red states dieing because of a disease we wiped out almost entirely. I really gotta open a "child coffin" plant in Texas.

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CharlesDarwin 13 points a year ago

Might have to start building walls around the areas where idiots are giving each other preventable diseases.

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CharlesDarwin 10 points a year ago

I guess they are going to need to get a consultation from Brainworms about how to eat right, work out, make sure they have proper septic systems, and get their chakras aligned...

The anti-intellectuals strike again. Working very hard to turn America into a shithole country.

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FolknForage 4 points a year ago

I would totally gloat on the FO, but it sucks for the non-idiotic Texans and those that can’t get vaxed. :-/

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LMurch 4 points a year ago

Points for no spelling errors.

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Gammelfisch 4 points a year ago

RFK will recommend drinking water, take a vitamin and suck it up. Nothing to see here, move along. I feel sorry for the children who are led by their dumb fucked up parents.

Next up, Polio.

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lorski 3 points a year ago

And it will never end til everyone who can contract measles, contracts it. TX does not care, and neither does RFK Jr. Shrug.

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EllaSpiggins 1 point a year ago
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Bloomcole -3 points a year ago

We in Europe

😂

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