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rc__buggy 271 points 2 years ago

It seems like the administration is trying to discourage travel across the border. Not just people on work visas, tourists and even citizens are reporting being detained. It's like East Germany or something.

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anytimesoon 48 points 2 years ago

Citizens too? I've not heard of that. Scary

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rc__buggy 117 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I read it yesterday I think. US citizen lives in Las Vegas and her German boyfriend comes to visit. They travel to Mexico and then were both detained on the way back in. She was released within days, he spent weeks even after volunteering to just go back to Germany. Fucking nuts.

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YarHarSuperstar 69 points 2 years ago

Thats fucked, I'm gonna look for that story. I've been seeing lots of stuff (even locally in a relatively progressive state) about trans folks' documents being confiscated and/or destroyed when they try to leave or get a new or updated passport or sometimes other docs iirc. Please don't come here, to anyone thinking about it. Period. Unless you're planning to stay a while and help us out, I don't recommend it but we will be needing all the help we can get :(

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Boomkop3 1 point 2 years ago

Hold up, tourists? Are we safe to visit family?

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rc__buggy 1 point 2 years ago

Bruh, ask your consulate

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Boomkop3 2 points 2 years ago

At that point I'd rather just avoid the place. It's not considered safe by our government anyways

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cronenthal 206 points 2 years ago

Why would the US need scientists when they have stable geniuses?

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etchinghillside 94 points 2 years ago

AI will fix it.

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veroxii 24 points 2 years ago

OpenAI promised us PhD agents! Only 20k a month!

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Spider2013 6 points 2 years ago

Persona: you are a very phd person

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i_love_FFT 3 points 2 years ago

That's it, I solved it! Put this in your prompt: answer questions as if you were a phd person.

(It may be the same thing as you mentioned above. I don't know what the Persona is, I don't really use ai chat bots)

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ArchmageAzor 149 points 2 years ago

The US is trading science and reason for zeal and faith. At least the scientists will be welcomed in the EU.

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notgold 8 points 2 years ago

Why did they leave the EU in the first place

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Redex68 32 points 2 years ago

Most probably money

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juanito_the_great 19 points 2 years ago

I seriously considered it at some point, as in my (former) field many top researchers lived in Philly, New York, Boston + Toronto. Becoming a top researcher means travelling where other top researchers are. It was definitely not about money, pay is often equivalent between the EU and the US.

Eventually decided it was not worth it for me (had other priorities in life), but this is a sacrifice many EU researchers make (or should I say, made) to become top researchers.

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ArchmageAzor 6 points 2 years ago

Operation Paperclip back in the day. Grants and such recently.

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oxideseven 1 point 2 years ago

This is the bobiverse future...

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dis_honestfamiliar 133 points 2 years ago

Didn't Albert Einstein flee Nazi Germany which advanced our research into what became the atomic bomb. Hmm... Should be fun century for USA.

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monarch 38 points 2 years ago
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fluffykittycat 4 points 2 years ago

Rods from God require space infra no one has and won't for a long while

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Diplomjodler3 27 points 2 years ago

Trump has already dismantled the American empire. The decline will be rapid and terminal. Even if they returned to sanity tomorrow, the damage cannot be undone any time soon. Nobody is going to trust the US again in our lifetimes.

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Rekorse 4 points 2 years ago

Oh no, all the trust america built up is suddenly gone...

When will america be the worlds best step dad again!

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Taleya 4 points 2 years ago

Tbh he's just finishing off a process decades in the making.

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Zink 9 points 2 years ago

How dare you point out something so relevant and foreboding.

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rimjob_rainer 99 points 2 years ago

Scientists left nazi germany for the US, now they'll leave nazi US.

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technocrit 3 points 2 years ago path: 0 15943264 15986986, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
technocrit 1 point 2 years ago
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Loce 85 points 2 years ago

Time for scientists to leave the nazi country, just like they left nazi Germany in the 30s and 40s

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proletarians_must_suffer 31 points 2 years ago

Damned scientists. Everywhere they go, the place turns into a nazi shithole

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technocrit -2 points 2 years ago path: 0 15939340 15987008, hotness: undefined, score: -2, children: 0
algorithmae 65 points 2 years ago

Y'all act like this wasn't the plan all along

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prex 47 points 2 years ago

We need a name for the opposite of operation paperclip.

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sapo_peta 31 points 2 years ago

Loose leaf!

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Fermion 14 points 2 years ago

Binder drop

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Zorsith 11 points 2 years ago

Hole punch

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SkaveRat 24 points 2 years ago

Leaf blower

Paperclips hold papers together. Leaf blower blows them all over the place

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Michal 22 points 2 years ago

Operation crayon

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Sphks 15 points 2 years ago

Operation destapler

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Honytawk 5 points 2 years ago

Operation braindrain

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phoenixz 54 points 2 years ago

I hope he's already put of the country before he posted that, or he'll be stopped and disappeared for being a security risk or something

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Boomkop3 50 points 2 years ago

Welcome to Europe! You get to keep your healthcare plans into retirement!

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rocky1138 47 points 2 years ago
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SpaceNoodle 44 points 2 years ago

You have to keep evangelizing. They've likely never heard of it.

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fluffykittycat 10 points 2 years ago

Exactly. We need to get really obnoxious with the promotion

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SpaceNoodle 8 points 2 years ago

Maybe juuuuust shy of obnoxious.

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xor 3 points 2 years ago
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Comment105 1 point 2 years ago

It's pretty likely they've heard of it as a niche option, as a forgettable factoid years ago.

Then they may also have learned it's a very small platform and something about decentralization.

if they went to sign up regardless, it seems likely they didn't end up picking an instance. (Possibly having left the page open, briefly looked up Mastodon instances and read a few sentences, then moved on to something else.)

Now that they wouldn't have had to pick an instance, they've long forgotten about it, maybe you could get them to try the normalized sign up process.

But anyone who knows anything about people knew from the start that Mastodon wasn't really even aiming for successful growth. Of course the instances were gonna be an obstacle.

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stray 34 points 2 years ago

You have to say that on Meta if you want them to read it.

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technocrit -4 points 2 years ago

B/c these people are just libs.

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Bosht 46 points 2 years ago

Pediatric. Oncologist. That dude is an absolute hero and treasure for taking on such a horrible and bleak profession. I hate that those words are combined in existence at all. God I'm so ashamed to be an American.

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Necroscope0 18 points 2 years ago

Some people are built different. My dad worked as a pediatric hospice nurse for almost 10 years. Talk about a shitty sad job. Every single patient is a child and every single one of them is GOING to die on your watch. Fuck THAT. I do not know how he did it.

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shawn1122 4 points 2 years ago

I figure we have to have some angels to balance out the demons that end up in positions of prominence in our societies.

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Boomkop3 2 points 2 years ago

Now that is a hero

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Gladaed -37 points 2 years ago

They are just doctors. No need to glorify them. They do no more or less than a bus driver. Most jobs have an emotional toll.

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Angelusz 17 points 2 years ago

Let's agree to disagree. I respect bus drivers as much as you do. Some people, however, have a greater positive effect on humanity as a whole, and that deserves its own form of respect.

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head_socj 3 points 2 years ago

I agree to disagree. Doctors may have a more immediate and tangible benefit on people's health and well-being, but providing safe and reliable public transportation to untold amounts of working class people who may rely on you to provide for their families is also a massive positive effect that should not be diminished simply for being less culturally prominent.

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michaelmrose 6 points 2 years ago

Its not being diminished you are diminishing doctors who save dying children after 20 years of intensive education with driving a bus

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blackn1ght 14 points 2 years ago

I'd have to imagine that the stress and emotional toll is significantly higher for a paediatric oncologist than a bus driver. There's not so many people that could cope with that.

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barneypiccolo 9 points 2 years ago

Good to know. Next time I have a medical issue, I'll ask my bus driver for a diagnosis. What are your thoughts on subway drivers or Uber drivers?

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misteloct 7 points 2 years ago
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shawn1122 4 points 2 years ago

Having known several healthcare workers with PTSD from the pandemic I strongly disagree.

Granted, the pandemic was traumatizing for people from all walks of life but I don't envy hospital based nurses or doctors from that time.

It was so painful for nurses that many quit leading to a shortage that'll likely go on for the next decade as a result.

Some of that is due to corporate healthcare enshittification but there was a mass exodus during the pandemic for a reason.

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Boomkop3 1 point 2 years ago

You're right though. We don't need healthcare

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Kage520 1 point 2 years ago

Different energy. Bus driver has to deal with many potentially grumpy people in many potentially unsafe areas. Not an easy job.

A doctor that is specifically specializing in a field where he has to get to know and take care of children as they die in a potentially painful way, has a much different challenge. Less for safety or aggressive people (though maybe parents could be I guess) but more in being the one to watch as the hope fades for each individual child in their last days.

I wouldn't love the bus driving job. I don't think I could do the pediatric oncology one for more than like, one patient ever. I'd be depressed forever.

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amos 45 points 2 years ago

Why is this in the "memes" community? It is not a meme, is it? We should have a general discussion community for topics like these! (if it doesn't exist already).

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fossilesque 48 points 2 years ago
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i_love_FFT 27 points 2 years ago

In the context of Dawkins meme, this post is definitely a meme!

idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning

If we consider scientists imitating the behavior of other scientists (ex: leaving the us) combined with the social network post (signifying the symbolic meaning), it checks all the correct boxes to me!

Would another peer review my analysis?

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fossilesque 13 points 2 years ago
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i_love_FFT 10 points 2 years ago

Wow this is amazing satire! You made my day (even though it already was a very good one)!

Your critique is quite constructive. Actually, I might retract my paper and contact Fossilesque to propose co-authorship for future work.

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SpaceNoodle 8 points 2 years ago

Looks good to me

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bradd 8 points 2 years ago
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fossilesque 5 points 2 years ago
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hyperhopper 1 point 2 years ago

Then what's the point of the meme community? By that logic anything posted is.

You've broadened the definition so much the term has become useless.

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amos 2 points 2 years ago

I stand corrected! Thank you!

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xor 9 points 2 years ago
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RangerJosey 4 points 2 years ago

To annoy you specifically.

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prole 43 points 2 years ago

Brain Drain time.

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jsomae 31 points 2 years ago

and women

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Comment105 5 points 2 years ago

Of course.

I'll mention you probably missed the Depart men(t) of Education wordplay in the title.

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SomethingBurger 4 points 2 years ago

And the children, too.

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Slovene 4 points 2 years ago

Why are you always going on about women, Stan?

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jsomae 2 points 2 years ago

is this a reference to something

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Slovene 1 point 2 years ago

A scene in Life Of Brian.

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gandalf_der_12te 27 points 2 years ago

is the title a pun on "depart-ment of education"?

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Birch 4 points 2 years ago

It's from a presidential directive for dissolving the "Departmen of Education"

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CheetahPitah 3 points 2 years ago

It does appear to be so.

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Apple87sagan 25 points 2 years ago

This is a sign we are collapasing. When the smart people wanna leave we are left with a bunch of narrow minded, uneducated people.

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OsrsNeedsF2P 24 points 2 years ago

I work in big tech. 10 years ago, nobody was talking about going back to India, Pakistan, and to an extent, China. Now, people are talking about it. They're talking about Indian stocks, Indian houses, and dreams of retiring to go back.

Most people aren't - but the number is now non-zero.

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abbadon420 20 points 2 years ago

They're welcome to come to Europe. In fact, Europe is actively trying to accommodate it as soon as possible link

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TDCN 19 points 2 years ago path: 0 15927056, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 0
umbrella 19 points 2 years ago
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daw 18 points 2 years ago

Depart, [people] of education.

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fossilesque 38 points 2 years ago
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daw 5 points 2 years ago

Oh! Thanks for explaining this to me.

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fossilesque 3 points 2 years ago
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xye 16 points 2 years ago

Extremely sad news, this is what an authoritarian state looks like for anyone who still didn’t believe it. Wish them all the best wherever they land.

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Nurse_Robot 15 points 2 years ago

Based if real

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PanArab 15 points 2 years ago

While it is not the point, I am curious if his colleague is white or not. Is ICE targeting all foreigners or just the non-white-Europeans?

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SpaceScotsman 42 points 2 years ago path: 0 15951768 15952319, hotness: undefined, score: 42, children: 1
Slovene 8 points 2 years ago

*except for Ted Cruz and Elon Musk

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CoolMatt 36 points 2 years ago

They had a white Canadian woman who they just sent home last week

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SpaceNoodle 32 points 2 years ago

They've been torturing white people for about a month now

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technocrit 3 points 2 years ago

It's not like ICE has a plan, a clue, a reason... They're just trying to attack as many people as their daddy commands.

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alzymologist 14 points 2 years ago

Haha, did this months before trump the first, enjoying early start fruits!

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smokinliver 13 points 2 years ago

Wont last long until only the abolutely immoral scientists remain that are willing to experiment on political prisoners.

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usualsuspect191 11 points 2 years ago

Might have been working in the US to long.

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madkins 6 points 2 years ago

Ones mind boggles.

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podperson 8 points 2 years ago

β€œToo” well

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BagOfHeavyStones 1 point 2 years ago

Yes. Brings some doubt to the post. Semi illiterate yet professional? On the other hand, it is on a Meta platform...

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KulunkelBoom 8 points 2 years ago

Replacing education with idiots. The perfect republican scenario.

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nuko147 6 points 2 years ago

The middle finger in the end πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

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JazzlikeDiamond558 4 points 2 years ago

Whoever does not realize that THIS IS FAR MORE DEVASTATING than any nuclear bomb or even SIGNED capitulation in a war - is nothing else but an utter fool.

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iwasnormalonce 2 points 2 years ago

Can someone send me a direct link to his post?

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Aux 2 points 2 years ago

If you want to live a happy life in the US right now, make sure your parents are in Russia.

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technocrit 2 points 2 years ago

I can't wait for these brave visionaries to build capitalism and white supremacy in Europe. \s

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RangerJosey 1 point 2 years ago

o7

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sfu -18 points 2 years ago
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Snowclone 3 points 2 years ago

The US immigration system has been broken for decades, as a everytime a Democrat tries to fix it, the Republicans refused, to the point the democrats started getting Republicans authoring laws to fix the problems, and AGAIN the Republicans refuse, then we had Republicans author their own bills 100% and the Republicans REFUSED to fix it.

People as fucking stupid as you are why. ''Well why didn't they just follow the law'' because THE SYSTEM IS INTENTIONALLY BROKEN YOU FUCKING IDIOT, FAMILIES ARE GETTING DESTROYED AND PEOPLE ARE DYING WHILE YOUR DUMB ASS FAILS TO PAY ANY ATTENTION PAST ''oh gee golly why didn't they just do it legally'' 90% + of immigrants come on legally. How do they get illegal? They need a hearing. With an immigration judge, where are those? Oh... we don't have enough by the 100s. How far back is the backlog for immigration hearings? Oh its thousands of cases? Who represents people who need representation that our laws require they have? No, no, we don't have attorneys, that's not important. Just have the 5 year old that no one has any documentation on represent themselves? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense let's do that.

Wait in line properly? BUILD THE FUCKING LINE!!!!!

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sfu 0 points 2 years ago
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Lemmist -1 points 2 years ago
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quoll -23 points 2 years ago path: 0 15938303, hotness: undefined, score: -23, children: 0
proletarians_must_suffer -28 points 2 years ago

rootless cosmopolitans πŸ‘†

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thespcicifcocean 10 points 2 years ago

What's that, a drink or something?

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Knoxvomica 7 points 2 years ago

Teeehehehehehehe hey look a troll!

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werefreeatlast -39 points 2 years ago

It's okay to do the same to poor Latinos. But catch a scientists and I'm out of here!

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Mouselemming 76 points 2 years ago

It completely not, obviously. But it's unreasonable to ask the not-yet-disappeared poor Latinos to draw ICE attention to themselves, and those already caught in the orphan-crushing machine can't access social media.

These legally-documented scientists are the people who CAN speak out, and the loss of whom might matter to those whose worldview is entirely transactional. They too are now unsafe but at least they probably have lawyers looking for them.

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Windex007 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah what a piece of shit.

/S

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werefreeatlast 6 points 2 years ago

Just saying, even this argument is a double standard. But OK. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

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Ilovethebomb 4 points 2 years ago

Nobody said it was OK.

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technocrit 0 points 2 years ago

"And then they can for the white 'science' bros... but there was no left to speak up..."

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