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swade2569 146 points 2 years ago

If you know when you'll be done, you already know the answer you'll give.

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apfelwoiSchoppen 27 points 2 years ago

It's science! /s

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DogPeePoo 17 points 2 years ago

Now let’s celebrate with some rancid whale meat

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Sanctus 61 points 2 years ago

Finding a "cause" for the "autism epidemic" is like finding a cause for the shrunken number of planets in our solar system. You're just attacking identifiers and criteria, the existence of the thing remains unchanged.

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Naich 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but it's a lot easier.

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cley_faye 3 points 2 years ago

the existence of the thing remains unchanged

I fear they're menacing the existence of people down the line, so there's that.

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PapaStevesy 53 points 2 years ago

Sounds like someone who has absolutely no idea how medical research works. Or science in general.

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Patrikvo 11 points 2 years ago

"Here's the conclusion I want, now write the rest of the sciency text that's supporting it."

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peteyestee 6 points 2 years ago

You're just mad you to have to wait for the new cause to drop.

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futatorius 43 points 2 years ago
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Tedesche 18 points 2 years ago

This is what happens when you let hyper-religious people with no scientific training do “science.”

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Pichu0102 42 points 2 years ago
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Carmakazi 33 points 2 years ago

Does feel like the subtext is that autistic people are inherently broken and need to be fixed. Though I wish I could pin down exactly what problem they have with autistic people. A perceived lack of masculine confidence? (I guarantee they don't think about autistic women at all)

I guess they just see them as easy targets.

Also, consider not publicly referring to yourself as autistic and learning to mask if you haven't already.

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SoftestSapphic 14 points 2 years ago

Right wing ideologies depend on attacking minorities to distract from the fact they do nothing to benefit regular people.

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800XL 3 points 2 years ago

who has a problem with autistic people? The self-diagnosed US CEO is autistic and it's just fine.

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Pandemanium 7 points 2 years ago

It's the way people keep bringing it up. Like my mom, who I'm pretty sure doesn't even know anyone who is autistic. But she continually wonders why there are "so many of them now," as if it's a problem. She doesn't consistently bring up any other societal issues such as, why are there so many traffic accidents or increases in cancer diagnoses (although she does bring up increased crime even though it hasn't actually increased). I just can't fathom why she worries so much about autism when her life isn't affected by it whatsoever.

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800XL 2 points 2 years ago

I think that they have to bring it up constantly now. The right always needs a scapegoat and/or excuse for their reprehensible behavior. Musk knew better than to give a nazi salute but didn't care because he is a piece of shit. I'm not qualified to make the call whether he is autistic or not and frankly it doesn't even matter. AFAIK autistic people aren't running around making nazi salutes.

At first I think the party was worried that it was a step too far. Since they don't know or care to know about autism saw that as the easiest excuse. It worked because they'll never question it. They want to be told what to think and do. They will go the rest of their lives thinking that they're supporting autism by not being angry about Musk. And the nazis in the Republican party will use that to teir advantage.

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HobbitFoot 4 points 2 years ago

But he has money so he is just eccentric.

The problem seems to come from over obsessed mothers, who are probably on the spectrum themselves, trying to explain why their kids are weird in a way that doesn't blame them.

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800XL 3 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Instead vaccines are to blame. Radio waves are to blame. Not enough holistic living and not using essential oils for everything is to blame.

In their minds now there is no treatment too far over the top no matter how it harms their child.

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match 20 points 2 years ago

Imagine what they could justify if they decide to pretend that autism is contagious

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baronvonj 21 points 2 years ago

They could even make a vaccine for it! And you know dangerous vaccines are, they can even cause autism!

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aeternum 3 points 2 years ago
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tal -9 points 2 years ago

Like, you mean that people with autism might be negatively-impacted in some way? I haven't been following the whole RFK thing, but from what I have read, I don't think that he's been upset at people with autism or said that being around people with autism is an issue. He's just promoted a really bad take spawned by a claim from Andrew Wakefield that combining certain vaccines rather than taking them separately could cause autism.

Like, the risk here is that he's going to use his influential position to encourage people to not be vaccinated, and that that is going to cause a lot of deaths and harm from disease when vaccine use falls off.

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Reyali 26 points 2 years ago

The idea that vaccines cause autism and therefore we shouldn’t give vaccines inherently implies that autism is a worse scenario than any of the diseases vaccines protect against. We have a measles epidemic killing children, and people would still prefer to not vaccinate because of a fear of autism.

If people think having a dead child is better than having an autistic child, that doesn’t bode well for autistic folks.

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boydster 20 points 2 years ago

The government is laying the groundwork for reestablishing federal mental institutions while also putting a fresh target on autism. This is manufacturing consent to expand the group of others. First they came for the immigrants, and I did not speak up... You know the poem. The outgroup is ever-growing and it starts when they put you under a microscope

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flicker 11 points 2 years ago

The stories I could tell you from my time as a caregiver for adults with developmental and intellectual disabilities...

::: TW: neglect, abuse, SA

Here is a link to a lawsuit against Clover Bottom Mental Hospital, which was one of these institutions. The lawsuit happened in 1993. This was not that long ago.

"At the defendant state institutions, plaintiffs spend their days waiting out the hours. They sprawl in ill-fitting wheelchairs or carts. They are parked in dayrooms or hallways unattended, or are left alone in their rooms. Many plaintiffs languish in hospital beds or cribs, with no stimulation except when they are changed or fed. Others are left in wheelchairs, unattended for hours, with no stimulation or human contact available to them."

"Plaintiffs' basic care needs are ignored; they are left alone for hours. Clover Bottom residents in diapers are often wet, their clothes soaked through with urine."

"Defendants have failed to protect residents of the institutions from physical abuse and neglect."

"Verbal abuse is widespread. Staff at Clover Bottom use abrupt, verbal commands to communicate with residents; often, they scream at them."

There is so much more, and so much worse. The thing is, some of these folks are still alive, and still members of our community, and they still have the evidence of this ongoing trauma writ large. The current system isn't ideal. There's never enough care, and the people who are providing care are often under-trained and under-paid and over-worked. But at least it's better than this.

ETA: I had to come back and add: I left out all the sexual abuse. There was... a lot. There's evidence. It's mentioned in that lawsuit but there are stories I can't bring myself to tell. :::

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futatorius 3 points 2 years ago
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Carmakazi 19 points 2 years ago

He's talked about forcing people with "mental issues" into "wellness centers" where they "go outside and garden."

Read: send them to fucking work camps.

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hoi_polloi 5 points 2 years ago

Well, someone's gotta harvest the crops now that all the migrants are in the El Salvadoran gulag.

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AbidanYre 4 points 2 years ago

Would having an actual brain worm count as "mental issues?"

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Patrikvo 9 points 2 years ago

That poor thing has long died from malnourishment.

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andallthat 1 point 2 years ago

The thought of Kanye and Elon in a work camp, though....

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tal -5 points 2 years ago

It sounds like he was advocating for creating drug addiction treatment facilities.

https://www.msn.com/...

What's True:

Kennedy said he would create rehabilitation wellness farms where people with drug-related issues (including with psychiatric drugs) can go for a program of rehabilitation that would include job training and growing organic food for their own consumption.

What's False:

However, contrary to how some people interpreted his words, Kennedy did not say or imply anyone would be "sent" to such locations against their will.

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gAlienLifeform 16 points 2 years ago

"I'm going to create remotely located work camps and starve people there if they can't grow 'organic food', but they'll be voluntary! Promise!"

"There's an epidemic of autism, but I'm not going to force a 'cure' on anybody! Promise!"

Like, he hasn't said it explicitly yet, but it's a pretty obvious next step if he's ever so inclined, and it's not like this administration would stop him

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Tikiporch 41 points 2 years ago

All good and well founded research has a definite end date for revealing results.

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Sterile_Technique 21 points 2 years ago
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lemmie689 5 points 2 years ago

Sitting in a bunker, here behind my wall Waiting for the worms to come

In perfect isolation, here behind my wall Waiting for the worms to come

"The worms will convene at 1:15 outside Brixton Town Hall where we will be going in force!"

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gravitas_deficiency 16 points 2 years ago

This is the same thing as when the first time around they wanted to decrease covid pandemic metrics by halting testing. Which is an idea he got from Putin, who halted HIV/AIDS testing and statistical reporting when it became obvious that their mitigation efforts were absolutely not working (not because it’s an intractable problem, but because they didn’t really care that much, and homosexuals are a big scapegoat group in Russia).

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foggy 14 points 2 years ago

If they say marijuana I'm leaving.

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resipsaloquitur 7 points 2 years ago

Don’t think the smack addict is going to blame Mary Jane.

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tal 4 points 2 years ago

https://people.com/...

"I did very, very poorly in school, until I started doing narcotics," Kennedy, 70, said on the podcast. "Then I went to the top of my class because my mind was so restless and turbulent and I could not sit still."

"It worked for me," he continued of his past heroin use. "And if it still worked, I'd still be doing it."

rubs eyeballs

Honestly, I don't even know how The Onion deals with RFK.

kagis

https://theonion.com/...

RFK Jr. Orders Removal Of Sinks From HHS Bathrooms

WASHINGTON—As part of a sweeping overhaul of the building’s plumbing system, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. reportedly ordered the removal of sinks Tuesday from all bathrooms in the Department of Health and Human Services headquarters. “People across the world lived for thousands of years without sinks, and they were just fine—healthier, even,” said Kennedy, who noted that the cuts would not only save taxpayers thousands of dollars in maintenance and water bills each year, but be better for the environment as well.

Yeah. I kind of feel like The Onion RFK is more-plausible than real life RFK.

EDIT: By way of completely driving the point home with a sledgehammer:

https://theonion.com/...

Vaccine Critic RFK Jr. Backs Measles Vaccine Amid Deadly Outbreak

Though he stopped short of urging people to get the shot, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a noted vaccine critic, acknowledged the value of the measles vaccine amid a deadly outbreak in Texas. What do you think?

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Funky_Beak 2 points 2 years ago

What's funny is as an asd adult. Cannibis is the only thing that helps manage the noise from the world so I can focus.

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peteyestee 4 points 2 years ago

It's the entirety of American culture.

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NotSteve_ 2 points 2 years ago

Don’t be ridiculous, it’s clearly the measles vaccines

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Geetnerd 11 points 2 years ago
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jmcs 14 points 2 years ago

Don't tell him that, otherwise you'll probably end up with an eugenics program.

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Geetnerd 6 points 2 years ago
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jmcs 5 points 2 years ago

Do you think the bargain bin fascists running the US are capable of original thoughts?

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jaxxed 2 points 2 years ago

Ignorant question: is it decisively genetic? (Like with science I mean)

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Geetnerd 1 point 2 years ago
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Geetnerd 1 point 2 years ago
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barneypiccolo 11 points 2 years ago

It's going to be vaccines. We already know this. They've already made that announcement 1000 times. They just need time until September so they can forge the evidemce, which they will use to ban most vaccines, for most people (rich people will still be able to get vaccines).

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andallthat 10 points 2 years ago

no, no, no, RFK, it was this freaking "fascism epidemic" you were supposed to research

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LuxSpark 10 points 2 years ago

I want to know too. A guy at work was fine, then one day he came down with the autism. Now he does computer nerd stuff.

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cley_faye 10 points 2 years ago

Which is the biggest joke, them starting a "research" effort, already knowing the outcome, or knowing when it will be completed ahead of time?

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iAvicenna 8 points 2 years ago

in other words "we already know the result we will just back it by crafted science"

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ThomasCrappersGhost 3 points 2 years ago

I thought that they said research was “woke” and sacked all the scientists, so yeah that would make sense.

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My_IFAKs___gone 6 points 2 years ago

Nope, definitely not going to be lead pumped into the atmosphere or water cycle. Nor could it be the active groups freshly invented over the past century by industrial chemistry labs trying to find better refrigerants or organic catalysts. Nor benzene, asbestos, dioxins, or PCBs. And certainly not PERC.

Nor could it be epigentically induced via exposure of parents to these, and many other, pollutants capable of altering genetic code and causing chronic illness, in turn forcing lifestyles and stresses detrimental to health.

Whatever they find, I'm sure all those possibilities will be ruled out. And not because ruling them in would make capitalist profitability decline before the next earnings report.

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Patrikvo 5 points 2 years ago

Obviously caused by not enough praying.

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hedgehogging_the_bed 3 points 2 years ago

I want to know what method these anti-science whack jobs are going to use to determine this cause? If you didn't like all the research the experts did into the underlying causes, WTF you gonna do differently?

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My_IFAKs___gone 2 points 2 years ago

Well, there are always healing crystal queries, prophetical epiphanies, 'gut feelings', hunches, data dowsing, straight up making shit up, opinions available for bid to the richest interest, and confirmation bias backed by headlines.

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Spacehooks 6 points 2 years ago

Anything but microplastics I bet

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hoi_polloi 4 points 2 years ago

Certainly not a better understanding of that condition and more accurate testing.

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Djinn_Indigo 5 points 2 years ago

😮‍💨 Great... I guess autism will be at the center of the mext big culture war. Yippee...

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charade_you_are 5 points 2 years ago

I think the worm controlling whatever is left of this guy's brain is afraid of vaccines.

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WindyRebel 3 points 2 years ago

It’s probably the prevalence of micro plastics. We’re finding all these other health hazard upticks associated with it so it’s probably causing it too.

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RedPostItNote 0 points 2 years ago

I think a study just came out tying it to gestational diabetes.

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Formfiller 2 points 2 years ago

How didn’t they cut all scientific research funding? Is Q going to reveal the truth? Is Q with us now Robert?

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gabbath 2 points 2 years ago

Sure, bud.

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TimeSquirrel 1 point 2 years ago
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thanks for using Leebra!

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