J Edgar Hoover wanted to round up all the "leftists" and put them in camps.

I put quotes around leftist because simply not hating black people was enough to get you on that list.

Fun new things keep coming out.

People are so unaware how common politically motivated murder was in the late 19th/early 20th century in the US. Our country is rittled with shallow graves belonging to labor and civil rights activists. Wikipedia for example has a list documenting anti-labor murders totaling just over 1100 that we know of. Much of that violence was especially targeted towards black labor organizers.

In both the BLM movement and OWS, leaders and organizers were still meeting untimely deaths and I don't think the clandestine agencies of government have changed enough, (or at all), to rule them out.

sardines are actually a cheap, nutritious and filling dinner

That doesn't make it not a conspiracy, it makes it not a conspiracy theory. Instead, it is a factual conspiracy that is just not well known.

People care, but what are you going to do? Until the majority is ready to violently overthrow corrupt institutions you’re stuck with it. Now getting the majority to agree on which ones are corrupt… hoo boy. Good luck, America.

But as a martyr the government can paint him as being only about racism, not about economics.

Have you ever listened to MLK speak or read anything he's written? Dude would absolutely be what he is today if he had not been murdered.

Exactly. It struck me that they must be diverting attention from something when they came out with the alien stuff

I'm not saying a few people fucking over the rest is a conspiracy theory.

I'm saying that all those conspiracy theories people love to discuss are pushed to capture the attention of those people and have them think they're involved in something important and spend all their energy on that, so the assholes can keep on fucking them over without much resistance.

I have no clue what temu even is, like what is it and how is it different than other sites?

Not OP, so I can not be certain what exactly they thought, but I alsi think that while idea of capitalism is that competition will bring best product to the top, it is pretty damn hard to make great and successful product.

My understanding, and belief, is that they internationaly push only mediocre if not completely bad products, so that consumer expectations are being kept low.

They don't want to hear 'they don't build them like they used to' any more. It is not good for business.

This js so obvious with movies and tv shows. From management's perspective success is totaly random and non understadable, so keep expectations low.

We still talk about Firefly, about Braking Bad, Sopranos, even Star Trek Thr Next Generations for a reason, but it is hard to make something equally good again so they all make mediocre shows.

in the United States of America you would be innocent until proven guilty. Yet, I believe he is guilty. And, to answer not only your question but also our friends here :
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2023 Aug. 3, Trump pleaded not guilty to three counts of conspiracy and one count of obstruction, all related to the Jan. 6 insurrection. (many sources easy to find).

Finally, I also believe he should be found guilty in many other such cases.

Trump being on the ruzzian payroll is not a secret. He's a puppet.

When he was elected (with the help of russia), he was brougt into a dark smoke filled room that smelled like sigarettes and cheap vodka, with a dosen men was sitting behind their desks. He couldn't see any faces. No words said before Trump said: "what's my agenda?"

What I wouldn't do to have the transcripts of his private conversation with Putin that only one other US personnel, the interpreter, was allowed to attend. Just Putin, Trump, and the translator. No one else was allowed in other than Putins translator.

Try to tell me Putin wasn't giving orders or giving information to Trump that he expected Trump to use in Putins favor...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44883072

I can't see a situation where the US would have actively supported Russia, but it's 100% believable that our support for Ukraine would be significantly muted if Trump were still president. And this would almost certainly also translate into reduced support from the rest of NATO.

I do not think that Putin would let Trump have that information. Trump would blab it, and Putin knows that he would.

Convincing Trump that America should realign with Russia to take down China (and Europe) a few notches is more likely. That was obvious when the Republican Party changed their platform concerning Russia back in the 2016 election. Putin still was being fed a bunch of BS by his intelligence agencies and thought that his little green men could again take over another small satellite country. If America had not started helping with training Ukrainians to defend their country, that would have been the outcome. Simply refusing to aid Ukraine would have been enough. Even our intelligence thought that Russia was a major military power at the time.

Not sure if you've followed just the "alternate" electors plot, but that alone is pretty conspiratorial.

He was literally indicted (in part) for conspiracy. There are easily findable legal documents that list all the others.

His lawyers, some of his staff in the white house and kid rock

Do your research on the case and the answers will be very obvious.

I genuinely think they have a cult like belief that they need to fuck over poor people as much as possible to maintain a society in which they can be above the law, infinitely powerful and wealthy.

Everything they're doing seems calculated to cause problems and ruin solutions.

Uh I haven't but isn't that written by Gary Webb?

Yes. And they know protecting themselves means destroying lives of billions so they need to make sure the billions won't go after them. And since the masses are also aware of the situation it means at least short-term planning against the people. This requires at least basic coordination between interest groups and gradual capturing of whatever means of power are still left for the masses. Then they figure out how easy it is to wield even more power and off we go to the land of the tin foil headwear.

Id say we repalce millionares, politicians and all of the leadership with A.I. Im convinced that it will pretty much save us from ourselves, or at least from ashole leadership since they are not capable of making decisions for the greater good, specially when it comes to inequality and global warming. Democracy is a lie, we are playing a videogame and we are the little brother with an unpluged controler being made to think that we are playing, but we are not and the controller is just so that we dont riot.

One of the first things Reagan did when he took office was take down the solar panels from the White House that Jimmy Carter had put up there.

Lmfao seems reasonable, hopefully he'll be held accountable

Yah, not really conspiracy, but BS that allowed bad things.

I mean, Bush and Saudi families have been friends for generations. Doesn't seem too far fetched for them to work together.

Hell they don't even need to do much. A few internet comments, and bada bing bada boom, you got a headline.

Kremlinology tripped me up way more than it should have.

Smack a religion on it and you're good to go

I get your point but it's only marginal benefit for our limited immediate perspective. Even if we stop actively destroying our planet, we are still at risk of catching a stray asteroid and that would be it for our whole civilization and most of life. We really need to learn better self-preservation at an interstellar scale.

Yea, we're talking about sending people out on trips that could last for hundreds/thousands of years, with no way to provide support or backup if anything goes wrong along the way, to go to other planets that may not even be habitable when they get there. We don't know if there's any other sort of faster-than-light travel even possible, so there very well may not be any space travel shortcuts. Chances are "the great filter" is just the astronomical distances between everything and so all life eventually figures out it's better to just stay home. If anything, maybe the best we can hope for is to convert all the mass in our solar system into a Dyson sphere and just wait out our Sun for a few billion years, that may be more realistic than travel to another star system (maybe slightly less impossible).

It's even more than that.

Imagine a dinosaur species was sapient, what do they use to fuel their industrial revolution? There might have a few scatterings of oil reserves but most of the fossil fuels we have were created at the end of their era. They'd have to jump from water power to nuclear.

We are in an incredible accident of timing and opportunity, and we're wasting the convergence of eons on a few centuries.

UAPs could be anything, we have no idea what. No evidence was presented that they are aliens, and the ex-intelligence guy who claimed that they are aliens also believes the Vatican is involved in the cover up, not exactly credible.

The way I see it, if it was a conspiracy it was done in just about the dumbest way possible.

Moving target and you don't make sure there was someone to concretely place Oswald on the floor at the time of the shooting?

If it's the CIA/FBI/any of the 3 letter agencies, there were so many better opportunities when JFK was standing still on a stage

I met a guy who was there, Sam Pate. He was a radio reporter covering the event. He said the storm drains were larger then and the killer went down, took the tunnels, and was on a plane from Love to Chicago by the time Kennedy was pronounced dead at parkland.

Over thirty people making videos it taking pictures in the plaza, every story and statement poured over time and time again in intricate detail... And we're still no where near a consensus opinion on what happened.

Oh, the AR-15 got JFK too? Sheeit. /s

My partner died in 2013 and I feel like the world has gone tits up ever since, in a way he wouldn't believe. Like if it somehow turned out he'd been in a coma all this time and woke up and I had to catch him up on the last 10 years he'd tell me to fuck off out of here with this bullshit.

I thought it was 2035?

Or am I mixing up the dates because it's speculated that without a very blatant push to consolidate power at any cost, the GOP will almost certainly never win a national election and even become a longshot to get control of either House of Congress with their current ideology after 2035?

Idk. I for one would be pretty cool with another paradigm shift and the GOP flys way to the left and the already center right DNC takes up the mantle of being the conservative party again. Power is power after all right? If they really wanna be the kingmakers, this would be my fever dream.

Brief search - we're fucking with homeostasis?

I don't think a sexual predator avoiding being held accountable for his crimes is that far fetched

Are you talking about 7? Don't remember if that was the building number, but the one that wasn't hit? I assume you don't mean the twin towers.

Especially not on lower Manhattan. I could maybe see a reason to let them fall down on their own, if they had been in the middle of a gigantic empty field, but never inside a city, fall the wrong way there and they can bring a couple of blocks down with them.

I know this is kinda vain, but wouldn't it be unconstitutional for the government to orchestrate things that killed its own people? It wouldn't be the only time because I know the pentagon(?) was considering staging domestic terror attacks on US cities to justify invading Cuba (I can link the Johnny Harris video)

Interesting theory. In order for this to work he'd need to mastermind the operation to fake his death. He would have to, at a minimum:

Obtain a suitable body and some kind of face mask based on his likeness.

Convince the two guards to malfunction the camera, move the newly acquired body into the cell and stage a suicide, then fall asleep.

Find a way to escape the prison, obtaining a suitable disguise to aid in the escape.

Grease the palms of the medical examiner to look the other way when the body is examined post-mortem. May also need to bribe other officials as well.

Obtain means to escape the country (probably the easiest part of this entire operation).

If he can't go back to his Island, purchase another one. Perhaps get cosmetic surgery so he doesn't obviously look like Epstein.

Keep a low profile for essentially the rest of his life.

When the economy is in shambles they buy-up assets at a steep discount. Wars are big money-makers too. It looks like things are going great for them.

They’re living high on the hog and don’t care how the sheep are doing. In fact it’s better for them if the sheep are in disarray so they don’t have the energy to revolt. And as another commenter said, constant war and economic turmoil is good for them because they can buy up assets and war profiteer to stay in control of the lions share of the wealth. They could totally run the world so it’s a better place for everyone but then they wouldn’t get to stay in power and live on mega yachts. Or in their private bunkers if it comes to that.

That’s interesting and good to know. Is there a good biography or show you’d recommend to read up on them?

I get your point about selfishness, but we still got the 5 Families mafia, and the cartels in Mexico. And the robber barons had to be taken down by the Sherman anti-trust act. Are the super rich above them somehow at a different level of selfishness? It may be true, that you have to be a sociopath at a higher level to be at the true top of the totem pole, that’s an interesting question. Unfortunately not something that’s easy to research for obvious reasons.

Ironically, this post is itself a repost.

Google already seems more full of AI generated blogspam than ever

Basically the internet is made of primarily bot accounts interacting with each other and the majority of content online is not people interacting with people.

It’s a gross oversimplification of the theory, but I’m of the same mind. We’re getting really close to it.

All your online interactions are with bots.

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You make a good point. I think the difference would be the measurement of real human engagement / interaction with the web. While both are very bleak, there's a difference between humans consuming (and responding to) a bunch of bad bot-and-algorithm-generated content and bots just talking to each other while the humans are out of the equation entirely (watching passively, being completely lost in the noise, etc). I assume you and I are both human, for example. I know I'm splitting hairs here, but I guess you could say it's the difference between a terminally ill patient and a dead one.

I don't necessarily subscribe to this idea, but everything seems to ridiculous to me at this point. Idk how to explain it, but I feel like there was a big change in reality. Everything is so different than it used to be. Not sure if it's just me aging and being more conscious of certain things, or if there was actually a change.

Things are off and idk how to explain it

Because you can leave Reddit, but it doesn't mean that Reddit has left you... 😜

And while I appreciate the sympathies, worry not. I didn't give a damn about votes there, I certainly won't develop the interest for them here.

I'm more about "we're living in a make-pretend kind of illusoric construct, that is fragile and completely fake". All this, the law, society, traditions, possibly our history and more, it's all so manipulated that even the curators of this illusion no longer can tell how things are and were.

I'd believe COVID was a bioweapon if the main suspect wasn't also the country that was hurt most by COVID.

I actually read a pretty funny theory that claimed it was a bioweapon designed to function like a naturally occurring disease.

The basis of the argument was that it was used to rapidly disrupt the global market which would cause many large international corporations' stock value to drop, allowing China to buy out ownership of direct competitors or expand control for cheap.

In that sense, it would have been a perfect bioweapon because it absolves China of having manufactured it in a lab, and its rapid spread but low mortality did have the disruption effect that China wanted.

tbh though I'm still convinced it was just SARS's cousin that probably mutated in a bat lol

Yes, this is it. Most likely it was the South African guy who first said that someone had hijacked Q's account that started it. He couldn't admit he was behind the account or he'd expose and embarrass himself when CodeMonkey (Ron Watkins) took it from him. Then the Watkinses were behind it from then on.

The QAnon docu-series on HBO did an excellent job of showing that this is likely what happened. I'm super interested in that loony movement (as a spectator and worrier) and yet it still presented all kinds of details and info that I hadn't known. Also, Will Sommer, author of * Trust the Plan: The Rise of QAnon and the Conspiracy That Unhinged America* and the hosts of the QAnon Anonymous podcast (also spectator and worriers) think this is the most likely answer and they collectively know more than almost anyone about the subject.

In the end, it was sort of an accident that it got so big and they just lucked into it.

No technology actually works, it is all a magical illusion. You may think a steam engine works with heated water and pressure; a computer with circuits and electrons; etc.; well, that is all gobbledygook, and what actually makes any of these things do things that occasionally seem useful is nothing but powerful illusion magic. If the assembly of mages decide to dispell the illusion, we'll be back in the middle ages. For one thing, it seems they never really got the illusion to work quite right for printers.

For proof of this just look at the Alaskan Highway. During World War 2 the Army built a 1,700 mile long highway from British Columbia to Alaska. There was zero infrastructure or existing routes along the way. Also they had to deal with mountains, permafrost, and all sorts of stuff using 1940s technology. Construction started in March 1942 and was completed in October of the same year. Or 7 months.

For comparison here in DFW they built an overpass between Hwy 820 and I-35W. No actual new roads, just a new overpass. It took them 7 fucking years.

It could make sense when compared to Brexit. The brexit referendum was supposed to be a 4D chess move from less insane Tories to shut down the new populist party and more radical conservatives. Instead we got shady meddling, "leave" won and they were actually forced to do it and shoot their both feet with a cannon.

Maybe the established powers in the US wanted to use Trump to channel extremism into him and have him lose to get rid of the sentiments. Instead some shady meddling happened etc.

I maintain that his initial announcement of his candidacy was more a publicity stunt than anything else.

Then he realized he could actually win

That would have been hilarious. Or hillaryious, I guess.

Sure as hell, nobody I knew (even the die hard republicans) thought he had a chance in hell at the time.

He forgot to mention that the theory is that it happened on accident. Thus he fell forward, causing him to misfire

As in accidental discharge when losing balance.

Imagine being the guy that has to carry the fact that they accidentally killed the youngest president in US history

It was believed by a gun / ballistics expert who was the only person to complete the Oswald shot challenge in the time the shots were fired (I know, appeal to authority). It would also explain why there would be a coverup, as it would be deeply embarrassing during cold war times.

What's your theory?

What was the substance of the entry, as best that you can recall?

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So many UFO landed there. Coincidence?

Tower 7 fell like the twin towers did. But it wasnt hit.

What if one of those countries secretly visited North Sentinel Island with some guys in Crysis-like stealth exoskeletons to gather information? Anthropologists who are trained like a SEAL Team.

The south american country with huge territorial claims