Kennedy sidesteps vaccine questions: ‘I don’t think people should be taking medical advice from me’

a year ago by fossilesque to c/nottheonion

The health secretary appeared before the House Appropriations Committee this morning. This afternoon he'll go before the Senate's Health, Labor, Education and Pensions committee.
CocaineShrimp 378 points a year ago

I don't think people should be taking medical advice from me

Right... so why did you take the position of Secretary of Health, again?

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conditional_soup 151 points a year ago

Exactly. That's like SecDef being like "idk, I'm really not in a position to give military advice". I say that fully aware of the irony, but it's hard to pick a non-busted example since Trump's cabinet is just completely full of "meritocracy".

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My_IFAKs___gone 34 points a year ago

since Trump's cabinet is just completely full of "meritocracy".

Mediocrity.

Ha, if only. I wish it could be that rosy :'(

Maybe midiocracy?

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_core 16 points a year ago

Kakistocracy

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errer 1 point a year ago

It’s called that cause our government is lead by a bunch of KACKS

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forwhomthecattolls 8 points a year ago

don't do my MIDI interfaces and keyboards like that :(

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jontree255 44 points a year ago

He took it because he’s a narcissist who’s convinced he’s right about everything because of his last name and his money. Sound familiar?

Trump’s entire cabinet was picked for two reasons: Loyalty To Trump and Pissing Off Anyone Who Doesn’t Kiss Trump’s Ass. RFK fills that second one.

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LifeInMultipleChoice 34 points a year ago

Don't forget he went to Harris and she turned him away, and he went to Trump. Trump "allegedly" gave him the position in exchange for dropping out of the race and endorsing Trump. Which happened directly after.

People claimed at the time that would be illegal as it would fall under quid pro quo.

Edit: had to update it because the timeline was unclear which he went to first. One source reports he went to Trump first, then Harris after. Either way the result was the same. Harris didn't respond, and Trump did. Getting the endorsement

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jontree255 26 points a year ago

“Illegal” is a word that only applies to poor people.

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GladiusB 3 points a year ago

It also is not held in politics. We have lost all integrity.

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Revan343 9 points a year ago

I'm surprised Harris didn't respond, she seemed to like endorsements from shit headed right wingers

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Lost_My_Mind 44 points a year ago

We live in the dumbest timeline.

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whoisearth 23 points a year ago

For those of us like me that can step back. This timeline is absurdly funny.

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mriswith 11 points a year ago

It's literally just a game to them.

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18USCode2381 7 points a year ago
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Almacca 3 points a year ago

I'm not sure why you'd think that. They don't give a fuck about the law.

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huppakee 4 points a year ago

I don't disagree but this is a lot better than him giving false 'information'

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ryannathans 2 points a year ago

When was the last time secretary of health was a qualified doctor?

Edit:

2017

Before that, 1989

Both republican

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Supervisor194 2 points a year ago

There are full-on doctors who are conservative wack jobs though.

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RowRowRowYourBot 1 point a year ago
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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 0 points a year ago

The job of Secretary of Health is best suited for an administrator, not a doctor.

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Archangel1313 117 points a year ago
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ryannathans 9 points a year ago

Is the secretary for health usually a medical professional?

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running_ragged 23 points a year ago

Started compiling a list, but it posted early, and I got lazy.

List of them here, https://en.wikipedia.org/...

Looking at the first handful, most aren't medical professionals.

You would still expect that they should be able leverage their resources to have a pre-built response to a question like that.

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ryannathans 5 points a year ago

The last qualified one was Tom Price in 2017

Before that, Louis W. Sullivan in 1989

Both republican

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anon02947382020 7 points a year ago

Sorry how are you deciding who is qualified? Just being an M.D.? I agree that’s a good start, but MD does not a qualified HHS secretary make.

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Black616Angel 1 point a year ago

I don't think that is the case for most countries.

BUT the secretary of health (or whatever they are called in other countries) must be well-informed enough to be a credible source 1. for general health advice about e.g. vaccines and 2. for acute information about current medical topics like the flu or similar illnesses.

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NutWrench 96 points a year ago

“I don’t think people should be taking medical advice from me,” Kennedy said.

Well then, the next questions should be, "what is your job title?" and "what exactly is it that you DO here?"

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nonfuinoncuro 24 points a year ago

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atzanteol 20 points a year ago

Strictly speaking his job is administrative - he's not an expert on health nor does he really need to be. He's a political appointee charged with advising the president and enacting the president's policies. The career bureaucrats and scientists in his employ are the experts.

It is, however, expected that he would at least understand and listen to those teams on what the correct science is and provide feedback from those teams upward to the president to ensure that the president's goals align with good public health policy.

But he's a whackjob conspiracy theorist who has no idea what he's doing.

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Almacca 81 points a year ago

So shut the fuck up about it, then.

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Franklin 33 points a year ago

For real, I'd respect the self-awareness if it wasn't preceded by years of non-stop medical misinformation.

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FlashMobOfOne 9 points a year ago

Honestly hoping he gets ball cancer.

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96VXb9ktTjFnRi 62 points a year ago
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lobut 19 points a year ago

Sounds like the Joe Rogan Experience.

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turtlesareneat 11 points a year ago

"No one listen to what I'm about to say, but eating roadkill possum cures chlamydia."

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pineapplelover 1 point a year ago

But what if I don't have Chlamydia

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ziggurat 5 points a year ago

Then you haven't joined RFK swimming in sewage yet!

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dellish 1 point a year ago

Then eating roadside possum will cure you of not having something else. Also, have you considered swimming in sewerage?

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killingspark 1 point a year ago

You seem to have skipped step 1: Get chamydia. Please start the instructions from the top

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possiblylinux127 1 point a year ago

Becomes head of health

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Goretantath 56 points a year ago

FUCKING GET HIM OUTA OFFICE NOW!

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My_IFAKs___gone 7 points a year ago

To whom are you conveying these instructions?

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surewhynotlem 14 points a year ago

You!

Well, get on then. Hurry up. This is urgent.

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My_IFAKs___gone 5 points a year ago

Aye aye!

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Gates9 53 points a year ago

People gotta remember this guy has been as desperate as Trump his whole life to be accepted as a legitimate member of elite society. You factor that in, you factor in that Trump also wanted to be a crime boss like his mob affiliates from the early part of his career, the motives become more clear, the outcomes become more predictable.

Also remember, some of this is engineered by both parties to distract us from the everyday realities we are facing.

Don’t take your eye off the prize. We want a centrally planned economy, we want universal healthcare, we want federally funded infrastructure projects, and we’re gonna take that money from the wealthy.

Beware “abundance” grifters…

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p03locke 14 points a year ago

Also remember, some of this is engineered by both parties to distract us from the everyday realities we are facing.

Funny how one party seems to push this sort of shit way way more than another party.

Don’t take your eye off the prize. We want a centrally planned economy, we want universal healthcare, we want federally funded infrastructure projects,

I just want a functioning democracy, one with less fascists and corruption in it.

and we’re gonna take that money from the wealthy.

And how are you going to do that? Are you willing to take it by force? Because that's the only way it's going to happen. You have to take it by force.

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barneypiccolo -2 points a year ago

And how are you going to do that? Are you willing to take it by force? Because that's the only way it's going to happen. You have to take it by force.

No, we'll take it by legislation and re-writing the tax code, but if they want to hold out, than yes, we'll take it by force, and that will be a LOT worse for them.

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barneypiccolo 4 points a year ago

WTF is wrong with you? Of course I'm not taking it personally, and obviously we wouldn't be taking away billionaire's fortunes under the current regime. There isn't the Congressional votes to pass it, nor would HitlerPig sign it.

IF we manage to take our government back, AND remove the DINO Democrats who are nothing more than Republican-Lites, then we can hopefully have a Congress who will pass legislation authorizing a re-write of the 1974 Tax Code, which baked-in Trickle Down Economics, resulting in an annual $2 Trillion shift of revenue from the middle/working class to the wealthy.

Study: Inequality Robs $2.5 Trillion From U.S. Workers Each Year

'We were shocked:' RAND study uncovers massive income shift to the top 1%

And who would take it? The Democratic government, acting on behalf of the American people. It's not done with guns (or shovels, WTF?), it's done with computers, and law enforcement. Their bank accounts will be frozen and confiscated, and their properties and assets seized and sold at auction, or utilized by the government.

These mechanisms have always been available, the Dems just never used them, while the MAGAs never histate to exploit them as much as possible.

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p03locke 1 point a year ago

You personally? You're going to take it by force?

So, when democracy is dismantled in the next year or two, and it's no longer possible to "take it by legislation" or "re-write the tax code", you personally are going to take it by force?

With what? Do you have a gun? What you are going to take it with? A shovel?

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gamer 2 points a year ago

We want a centrally planned economy,

Lmao what? Is this a #JustLemmyThings meme?

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Tar_alcaran 1 point a year ago

BoTh SiDeS!

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Gates9 4 points a year ago path: 0 17057136 17057728 17057740, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
rottingleaf -16 points a year ago

That's interesting. Makes a bit of a connection to Putin and Russian current regime.

They are mostly children of party bureaucrats, with some mafia and special services seasoning added. That includes Putin himself, people painting him as ex-intelligence or his KGB past as something big miss the point, he had a minor role, he was a kid from a party family and he was sent to GDR because foreign postings were prestigious.

So they have this inferiority complex to make themselves seem real mafia and special services.

I wonder if Putin's hate for Ukraine is a result of its organized crime not treating him as anything interesting. Same with Georgia, it was once the center of the organized crime in the ex-Soviet space, and Saakashvili didn't end that as much as people think.

We want a centrally planned economy,

Oh, so you want real serfdom. Where you have a dossier passed between your employers as if you were a resource. Trade unions being state-controlled and acting in the interest of your employer. Nice.

we want universal healthcare,

Teeth being torn out without anesthetics, doctors prescribing donkey piss, people finding the rare good doctors via acquaintances and ties for important operations, because otherwise you might not survive that. Oh yes.

we want federally funded infrastructure projects,

Suppose that's fine.

and we’re gonna take that money from the wealthy.

Just remember that the most important part of ownership is deciding how the money is used, and you are giving this to non-elected bureaucrats if you want central planning.

Nah, should think a bit more.

A hint - "Soviet system" doesn't mean the USSR's system, and it can be good if designed very carefully.

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Valmond 15 points a year ago

We got universal healthcare in Europe and people don't pull your teeth out without anesthetics, what copium are you on, "the american self made man", "small government" or which delusional one is it?

Lol

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barneypiccolo 5 points a year ago

Your description of Universal Health Care is ridiculous, and instantly destroys any credibility you might have.

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CaptDust 39 points a year ago

Woah something I can agree with him about. Maybe we can find common ground here.

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TheThrillOfTime 36 points a year ago

I think that's a great idea, but maybe don't be assigned in charge of health.

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eugenevdebs 27 points a year ago

I mean, I already am ignoring the medical advice he gives me.

I sadly can't ignore the medical advice he is giving the country as a whole.

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Valmond 4 points a year ago

So when he says you shouldn't take medical advice from him, you would not listen?

/j

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jagged_circle 25 points a year ago

I do.occasionally agree with RFK

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Furbag 22 points a year ago

He doesn't want you to take medical advice from him, but he does want to dictate what kind of medical advice your actual doctor is legally allowed to give you.

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MeekerThanBeaker 21 points a year ago

I wouldn't take ANY advice from him.

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tigeruppercut 12 points a year ago

I dunno, he's prob the go-to guy for techniques about chainsawing the head off a dead whale

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shalafi 4 points a year ago

I'm actually that kinda guy. It would never occur to me that chainsawing the head of a whale corpse I found on the beach would be a no-no. It's already dead! Not like I killed it. I'm also dumb enough to keep bird feathers I find. Yeah. That could be a problem given the wrong cop.

"SWEET! Giant skull! I'm hanging that shit at camp! (After the ants do their thing.)"

I really do hang skulls I find on the shed door. Got a deer, a small mammal with pointy canines, a box turtle and pieces of something the raptors left (rabbit?). One time the local dogs dropped a deer skull on my tent. Coughed loudly and scared hell out of 'em.

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swelter_spark 2 points a year ago

I've always loved collecting animal bones, feathers, and sometimes skins that are in reasonably good condition.

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teamevil 3 points a year ago
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pelespirit 17 points a year ago

What people are missing from the article and headline is that he had vaccinated his children when they were little and the question was whether he would vaccinate his children if they were young today. That's the question he sidestepped. Yes, I bet he would is the reason for the sidestep. He's a con man too.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Wednesday sidestepped a question about vaccines and whether he would choose to vaccinate his children today against a number of diseases, saying, “I don’t think people should be taking medical advice from me.”

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Sam_Bass 14 points a year ago

Then resign your commission, wormbreath

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cabron_offsets 13 points a year ago
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peoplebeproblems 11 points a year ago

Useful idiots; remember that.

The Heritage Foundation is the one enacting the policies. White supremacist billionaires with the idea that they know what's best because.

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woelkchen 11 points a year ago

Brain worm guy has a point there

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mrbubblesort 8 points a year ago

The smartest thing he has ever said and he doesn't even realize it

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MunkysUnkEnz0 7 points a year ago

Maybe the brain worms will save us after all... I was so confused about the brainworms, and finally I read an article that said that he licked His hand after sticking it in a dead deer's mouth and got brain worms.

Not the type of guy I'd take advice on anything from... Well, that's not true. Maybe were to o score some...Nose beers.

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Lost_My_Mind 1 point a year ago

I honestly don't know if the absurdity in your message is absurdist humor, or absurdist factual reality.

Life isn't fun when you're living in the world of an article from The Onion.

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orca 6 points a year ago

Dude sounds like he’s just some confused fishing buddy that a friend hired.

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Irelephant 5 points a year ago

My brother in christ you are the secretary for health

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Imgonnatrythis 2 points a year ago

While "fake it till you make it" works for personal gain, for the greatest good it's better to be incompetent and honest. No one to blame but Trump for putting him in this position.

Now if only he would remain steadfast and consistent with this sort of honesty. That's the issue with these fools, they are consistently inconsistent. It's the most aggravating form of stupidity.

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SeeMarkFly 4 points a year ago

Elizabeth Holmes admits she was in control of Theranos

But Ms. Holmes... did you not start this company?

  "I swear to god, I was extremely incompetent. I had no clue what I did day in, day out. It's all just a blur. I'm not even sure why they hired me honestly."

  “Fuck if I know what I did on my years-long coke bender”

  "Not only am I a bad judge of who a good employee might be, but I'm also a bad employee. It's truly the worst situation, Your Honor."

  "I was self-employed and my boss was an incompetent jerk."

  "Seems to be a huge problem in self-employment. I’m self-employed, or was until my asshole boss got in a car accident in my car and somehow blamed the whole thing on me! Fucker is a procrastinator too."

  "I've already punished myself with a pay cut."

  "Look no reasonable person would have hired me, thus I'm clearly mentally unwell"

  "I’m gonna sue my ass for what I did to me!"

  “I am just a low-level CEO, I really just made the coffee.”

  "As I said, I was incompetent. I should never have hired me."

    She made the critical error of stealing from rich people

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TheLoneMinon 1 point a year ago

Alright no one's asking so I'm doing it. Are these real quotes? And ain't it a shame we're living in a time I need to ask that?

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SeeMarkFly 2 points a year ago

I will answer because I hate disinformation.

No, these are NOT quotes. I collected a bunch of other people's responses when this happened.

Yes, it's a shame that these could easily be possible today.

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TheLoneMinon 2 points a year ago

I figured as much and wouldn't have further spread it without confirmation, but yeah it wouldn't even be the most shocking defense I've heard at this point.

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shalafi 0 points a year ago

So did Martin Shkreli. (LOL, I Googled "guy who raised drug prices". First hit from Gemini. Maybe AI ain't so dumb?)

Shkreli not only bragged about it but had the nerve to be an insufferable little bitch while he was at it. With a punchable face. At least Holmes is cute.

Steal from the poor all ya like, never the rich. Reverse Robin Hood: A-OK.

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Ledericas 3 points a year ago

its more or less a distraction of the tariffs, and trumps own doge who is run by vought now.

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Audacious 3 points a year ago

Self aware wolf? That title made me laugh, and question what he's doing in that position, to administer eugenics only?

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zephorah 2 points a year ago

I’ll give him a slight amount of credit for saying that part out loud.

Let’s face it, his pushes are likely going to be cost cuts on anything the federal government is involved in, to try to make up on tax cuts and entitlement programs for the top 10%. Which will only, long game, make working class more unhealthy, angry, and desperate.

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possiblylinux127 2 points a year ago

That's a twist

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Bebopalouie 2 points a year ago

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altphoto 2 points a year ago

Is that stuff on his face removable?

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dumbass 2 points a year ago

But... You're the.... I.... I hate this timeline.

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ArchmageAzor 1 point a year ago

Must have been the brain worm talking.

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