Why is lemmy so political?!

a year ago by yesman to c/lemmyshitpost

IHeartBadCode 104 points a year ago

"Can we stop talking about politics for a moment?"

"So, uh, does anyone like Furina from Genshin Impact?"

"HOLY SHIT, okay fine, let's talk politics."

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oxysis 28 points a year ago

Furina is a 10, next question

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teslasaur 3 points a year ago

I dunno. I kinda wanna talk about how fucking good the new dark tranquility album is. But i doubt the people on Lemmy have heard anything related to its namesake Lemmy kilmister

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CubitOom 65 points a year ago

Beans are political if you look at it hard enough.

Also if you look at politics even more it also becomes beans.

Either embrace the absurdity or fight for the right to grow beans on your friend's lakehouse farm while taking your clothes to your mom's house so she can wash them for you.

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Sadrockman 3 points a year ago
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febra 56 points a year ago

Because the sole nature of Lemmy is political. The whole reason it exists is political. People want to move away from tech oligarchs and take control of their own spaces, of their data. Rotting on Reddit while all your data is being harvested and your interactions get turned into shareholder value is very convenient. Being on Lemmy is inconvenient (although it has become less so over the last year). So if you're willing to ditch a very convenient platform because of your beliefs, and move to a platform that aligns more closely with said beliefs, then it's fairly obvious why said platform is so political in nature.

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squaresinger 8 points a year ago

This.

Just from the features and the convenience, Reddit is better. It's bigger, it's got more content, it's easier, it's more stable (or at least used to be). You don't have to worry about your instance going under or anything like that.

The reason for the devs to invest their time to make lemmy and the apps and for admins to invest money and time into hosting and running the instances and for users to use this instead of Reddit is mainly the politics of wanting to have your own space with your own data.

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callouscomic -5 points a year ago

There's something comical about your discussion around leaving reddit and yet your comment starts like so much reddit trash.

This.

This.

This.

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angstylittlecatboy 4 points a year ago

I'm tired of Lemmy users acting like they, on average, aren't the people that people make fun of when they make fun of Redditors. Y'all are literally the stereotypical Redditor of ten years ago, which is about the time people first started hating on Redditors.

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callouscomic 1 point a year ago

This.

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callouscomic 1 point a year ago

This.

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This.

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throwawayacc0430 45 points a year ago
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GladiusB 9 points a year ago

Your encounters with dildos is much different than mine

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throwawayacc0430 6 points a year ago
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SippyCup 5 points a year ago

"voodoo dick my ass!" Comes to mind

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Exusia 45 points a year ago

Glossy bean

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PalmTreeIsBestTree 14 points a year ago

I’ve touched it

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erev 14 points a year ago

I've probably licked it

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dumbass 3 points a year ago

I 100% fucked it.

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conditional_soup 40 points a year ago

Good meme!

Answer you probably weren't looking for:

Because while you might not be political, the Nazis are. They're political enough for both of you, actually, and they prefer it that way.

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known_unknown 37 points a year ago

Politics of state and business, poor job market prospects, these are the things that we need to solve if we are to truly maximize beantime or beanmaxxing if you will

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kameecoding 4 points a year ago path: 0 17462479 17465762, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
randomname 33 points a year ago

everyone here is a leftist nerd, and the united states is at risk of falling under right-wing fascism.

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SnotFlickerman 31 points a year ago

Even beans are political, mate.

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CubitOom 18 points a year ago

I heard they even have a navy!

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PalmTreeIsBestTree 6 points a year ago

Especially soy beans

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gaja 28 points a year ago

I mean, politics encompass everything. There is no escape, simply a tolerance for one flavor of politics over another. You may be in a position that views news and opinions as an annoyance, but I'm not free to forget what's at stake.

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Gorilladrums -15 points a year ago

Only zealots think like this. Politics is not everything, it is a topic like any other. If you can't have a conversation with another person or enjoy an activity without thinking about politics, then you're spending too much time online.

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prole 14 points a year ago

Only zealots think like this.

This is the privileged take. So many people don't have the luxury of not paying attention to politics because their very identity and public existence is being outlawed.

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Gorilladrums -5 points a year ago

I literally lived in Iraq and Syria for a big portion of my life, and I spent even more time living in the inner cities of the US. Some braindead Lemmy user trying to accuse me of being privileged from their mother's basement is exactly the type of ignorance that I expect from users on this site.

If people in literal warzones and in poverty can distinguish politics from everything else, then so can everybody else. This idea that people in bad circumstances think about politics 23/7 is not reality. This is an ignorant idea made by ideologues for ideologues. Even during the war in Iraq, people had weddings, they went to visit each other's houses, they celebrated holidays, they talk about trivial things, and so on. Do you know why that's the case? It's because they're people. You clearly don't view them as such, hence you hold on to such an out of touch belief.

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prole 3 points a year ago

Some braindead Lemmy user trying to accuse me of being privileged from their mother's basement

I love when people say this shit to me because it could only really ever sting if it's true. When you're a grown-ass adult who's lived alone for over a decade, it kind of rings hollow. Nice try though.

You've also completely misrepresented my point so I'm not even going to bother continuing this.

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sandflavoured 2 points a year ago

Hey there, I too lived in one of the poorest and most densely populated regions in the world for half of my life.

Politics is unfortunately not a topic like any other. Unlike other subjects, this one materially affects all people in the relevant country, and often other countries too.

Governments work all the time to keep systems running, whether people think about them or not. But it is only by being aware of what is going on that people can make better choices when the time comes to choose new leaders.

Without political awareness, a person gives up their right to a say in how their country should be.

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MangioneDontMiss 10 points a year ago
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Gorilladrums -2 points a year ago

That's a wild assumption to have based on nothing. The reasons why someone spends so much time or very little time thinking about politics could be radically different. There are a lot of people who make politics their lives but are willfully ignorant, selfish assholes. This site is a prime example of that. At the same time there are very kind, well meaning people who don't think about politics. This isn't something that's black and white.

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MangioneDontMiss 1 point a year ago
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Vinstaal0 -2 points a year ago

Calling people an ignorant, selfish asshole is really going to help see the light and day of why politics are important and/or make them see why your opinions are good.

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gamermanh 3 points a year ago

If they're too stupid to see it already then they can die with the rest of the idiots, we don't care about convincing them anymore

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Feathercrown 8 points a year ago

"Politics is not everything, but anything can be politics." - Chef Gusteau, Ratatoullie

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gaja 2 points a year ago

It's weird to be called zealous.

Like, I'm just a normal fucking person in a time where people (including children) are getting kidnapped by the government for being brown. Trump pardoned violent criminals and their ring leaders as well as corrupt billionaires while pissing away our tax money into carpet bombing a nation of 48% children.

Fucking good for you if don't mind the taste of boot, but I'm watching our way of life begin to collapse. Slapping the 'politics' label on it and feels like a load of bullshit.

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Gorilladrums -4 points a year ago

You're not a normal person, literally go outside and touch grass.

Normal people have political opinions, they do discuss politics, but that's not their every thought. It might be shocking for you to hear, but people actually have lives outside of arguing about politics. This is true for people all around the world, rich or poor, old or young, male or female. Even in the most dire of circumstances, people find ways to enjoy life and not think about stressful things all the time. Otherwise they would be miserable all the time... like you.

Pointing out the reality is not "tasting the boot", that's just a cop out made by people on this site whenever their shitty opinions get exposed or pushed back. It's a lazy way to dismiss criticism or opinions that contradict their extremely narrow and out of touch worldview. Come back to me when you actually go outside and talk to people from different backgrounds. Until then, you're a zealot.

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gaja 3 points a year ago

What the fuck are you on about? Touch grass? Come off with that shit man. You don't know if I need an abortion or if my Medicare or Medicaid has been stalled by the government. You don't know if I started carrying my birth certificate and passport everywhere I go just so I don't get deported to El Salvador. You don't know how many of my health insurance claims have been denied.

It's like telling a soldier to ignore the war that things could be worse and they should enjoy life. I don't think it's a shit opinion to say that carpet bombing children is wrong. I think you're projecting. You don't know what life is like for most. You don't know how bad things have gotten for most. You just know that things are good for you and your social circle and that everyone should make you feel comfortable and happy about it. Go find an echo chamber if that's what you want.

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NutWrench 28 points a year ago

Being against genocide isn't a "political position." It's called "being a decent human being" and you should be against it, no matter who is doing it to who.

Pointing out that Trump is the dumbest, cruelest president that has ever lived isn't a "political position. " It's called "using your fucking eyes and paying attention to what he's doing."

I could go on and on about "things that are more obvious than a sunrise being labeled 'political positions'" but those 2 things could keep us busy for years.

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BrainInABox 3 points a year ago

Dumbest? Maybe, but there have definitely been crueler: Andrew Jackson for one.

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Soapbox 1 point a year ago

Andrew Jackson was the cruelest so far. Give Trump more time to cook and we will see.

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Trollception -9 points a year ago

It's a political position. You are literally talking about a person in politics, that makes it a political matter. Wow difficult to understand I guess. Speaking about Trump is especially political and jarring

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callouscomic 10 points a year ago

Incredible. We've found someone more dense than a neutron star.

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Trollception -1 points a year ago

Amazing

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KatakiY 3 points a year ago

Say something non political

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Trollception 0 points a year ago

Orange man

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sandflavoured 2 points a year ago

It's difficult to see how it would be jarring, the guy is the very vocal President of the United States, materially affects quite a few people.

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magnetosphere 26 points a year ago

People like to complain, and if you’re even marginally aware of the recent headlines, there’s a LOT to complain about.

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ininewcrow 21 points a year ago

Exactly .... I wouldn't be talking about politics if politics had just stayed out of affecting my life in so many stupid, terrible and sometimes horrible ways

I prefer politics remain just plain boring press conferences from a dumb politician trying to figure out how to raise finances to build a highway or fix a bridge or upgrade water services.

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LH0ezVT 8 points a year ago

It feels weird to have nostalgia for a time when the corrupt politicians, morally questionable revolutionaries and war crime loving generalissimos of the world at least tried to look respectable on the surface. You know, speak in complete, reasonably complex sentences and all that.

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grue 4 points a year ago

I'll be honest: I'd probably still be talking about politics. But at least it'd be more confined to appropriate communities rather than spilling over into every aspect of life.

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Tartas1995 24 points a year ago

The truth is the for a lot of us being here in the first place was a political stance.

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StarMerchant938 24 points a year ago
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Vanilla_PuddinFudge 20 points a year ago

Lemmy is political because you may be into Star trek, you may use Linux, but we are all beholden to corrupt, capitalist oligarchs and billionaires. It's the one true shared interest of everyone here.

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Corn 4 points a year ago

Also Star Trek and FLOSS are both intrinsically political.

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Zentron 5 points a year ago

Star Trek is THE political show

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MacNCheezus 24 points a year ago

I gotchu, fam

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candyman337 6 points a year ago

Wild that you post this on a post that says "fuck AI"

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MacNCheezus 3 points a year ago

I like to live on the edge...

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NotProLemmy 3 points a year ago

How & why?

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MacNCheezus 4 points a year ago
  1. AI
  2. Why not
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throwawayacc0430 3 points a year ago
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MacNCheezus 3 points a year ago

How about this?

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jwmgregory 0 points a year ago

or maybe it is uncanny because there are beans the size of boulders??

smh. β€œresult of the uncanny AI effect.” talking about image generation like it’s some sort of magic taint that pervades the image. i’ll go draw large beans myself just to point out how fucking absurd what you’re saying is, brb.

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MangioneDontMiss 22 points a year ago
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Melatonin 22 points a year ago

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CooperRedArmyDog 8 points a year ago

I hate to be that guy, but that is the NCC-1701 Refit, or the NCC-1701 A , not the NCC-1701, and I demand the meme be fixed, preferably by putting the old school enterprise in it.

Edit, this is the refit,

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Melatonin 6 points a year ago

I was wondering if anyone would catch that.

Lying, I didn't notice.

And I'm glad you're that guy. We need that guy. Not everybody being that guy. But at least one that guy, to hold things straight and true.

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CooperRedArmyDog 4 points a year ago

You know what, how about you come over, and we can watch so much star trek you can indentify what enterprise is what on sight. I can supply popcorn

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Melatonin 1 point a year ago

I was over 30 when I realized US Thanksgiving was always on a Thursday. I'm not very observant. So I don't know if I'll ever get the ship id down.

That being said, I'm there. What drinks shall I bring?

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mitchty 2 points a year ago

Im gonna that guy your that guy. If this is the refit it’s still the original enterprise. It’s no different to the ship of Theseus question, if anything it’s simpler than that old canard, so I’d say it’s still the same ship just upgraded.

The equivalent would be to require all pictures of some actor only be when they were young. I challenge your premise at the axiom here as it’s the same ship just upgraded at a point in time.

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CooperRedArmyDog 1 point a year ago

Gloves come off I understand you point, however the refit replaced a large section of the engineering hull, the nacells, that the only part I would call "origional" is maybe the primary saucer section hull, and the bulkheads, I would disagree that it was just upgraded, and upgrade would be from the pilot to the main series where the collectors had an upgrade. this feels much more like a new ship with extra steps.

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mitchty 1 point a year ago

Heh, well even by that definition I’d still say it’s the og enterprise. If we’re taking the nautical pov on things like a wooden sailing ship, they often had similar refit type work and were always the same β€œship”. Example, Tally Ho rebuild on YouTube, you can argue all you want that there is barely any of the 1910 ship left, but no mariner would argue as such. The idea and spirit of the Tally Ho is alive in the rebuilt ship. She is as much the original as she is now or will be in the future.

Really it’s just a question of lineage or even idea. Much like a human with say cosmetic surgery to look like Barbie or Ken, the person is the same the bones are still there as it were. The name remains, the ship will change, or if you will the 4d path in time describes the ship through history.

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MetalMachine 19 points a year ago

Because politics impacts your life and everyone around you

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salacious_coaster 18 points a year ago

It's pretty easy to filter out most political stuff on Lemmy and Reddit and similar platforms. Just subscribe to communities you like and stay out of All. If I go to All, I know what I'm in for. That's on me.

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Echo5 6 points a year ago

Respectfully I’d disagree. I can’t scroll through most of my meme or shitposting communities without seeing some politically flavored post, and there’s some kind of political comment on probably 85% of those posts. I get politics is an important topic but people often don’t have the class to keep politics out of the more β€œfun” communities. I keep to my subscribed list, block the spammers, but it’s fairly pervasive. I suppose that’s not all a bad thing as I get on social media a lot less atm. If you’ve got any additional tips though I’d love to hear them.

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dumbass 1 point a year ago

If you're using voyager you can filter words out, I've put a lot of the main political words in mine and only the odd one or 2 political posts get through.

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BootLoop 1 point a year ago

Thunder has keyword filters. These help but aren't perfect.

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gamermanh -2 points a year ago

people often don’t have the class to keep politics out of the more β€œfun” communities

Smells like "I can't be an asshole here cuz I'll get called out for it"

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LH0ezVT 2 points a year ago

Same here. If I want to read and argue politics, I click on main. If I want to pass some time and see funny images, I stay on subscribed.

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wjrii 17 points a year ago

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bathing_in_bismuth 2 points a year ago

Where are the jeans and horses?

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ryedaft 2 points a year ago

Ed Sheeran riding a horse in Britney's denim dress. His hair is shaped like Saddam. His eyes are two giant beans.

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vogo13 17 points a year ago
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callouscomic 5 points a year ago

Didn't realize this was strictly about the US. Also left and right are relative directions. Something being left of something else. You can endlessly compare apples and oranges if you want, but I don't see the point.

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fyzzlefry 13 points a year ago

Since you brought it up, I finally upgraded to windows 11 and hated it so I switched to Pop! linux since it's good for gaming. So far so good, Proton needs some tweaking on occasion but it's easy to do. Hell Rimworld and Planet Crafter run even better. I haven't tried anything else out yet.

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Wolf 3 points a year ago

Pop-Os gang!

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jayands 2 points a year ago

Dude, Proton is so good for 2d gaming. I have, I think, 3X the number of Stardew Valley mods installed than when I had it on Win10. It's at the point where I am deciding on whether to downgrade my Windows SSD and just use it for firmware updates (though I might experiment with running the DualSense tool in wine, instead).

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the_riviera_kid 13 points a year ago

Life is political, get involved or get out of the way.

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lmuel 12 points a year ago

If we were blind on the politics / moral eye we'd be on reddit I reckon

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henfredemars 12 points a year ago

That’s not public transportation!

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r00ty 19 points a year ago

It is if you leave the keys in the ignition.

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ptz 8 points a year ago

I've started using keyword filters more and more. You'd be surprised how few you need to hide most of the political shouting.

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Kyouki 4 points a year ago

Please provide me with tips!

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Exusia 4 points a year ago

"Slammed" and other hyperbolic words would probably be a good filter tbh. But politics words aren't too hard to concieve.

President, DEI, Tarriff, administration, immigration, controversial, budget

Just to name a few.

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Kyouki 1 point a year ago

Thanks

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SoftestSapphic 6 points a year ago

Everything is inherently political and engaging with the world around us is more healthy in the long run.

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double_quack 6 points a year ago

insert [at this point I'm afraid to ask] meme

what is the "beans" thing?

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Baguette 11 points a year ago path: 0 17462993 17464501, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 2
Jakeroxs 1 point a year ago

Ahh good times gooood times

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Red0ctober 1 point a year ago

Vans (shoes and vehicles, yes) also have had their time in the sun

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cupcakezealot 6 points a year ago

"beans from even stevens"

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Heavybell 4 points a year ago

Always hated the subtitles of Jeremy's line here. It's all it italics except the word "like". Suggesting either every word has emphasis except that one word, which is nonsense. Or that the emphasis is on "like", which doesn't work either in this context. Plus I remember this episode, and I'm pretty sure he put emphasis on "I" and "this"…

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Corn 3 points a year ago

Jeremy Clarkson:

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Heavybell 3 points a year ago

Haha, I don't get it. Does she say "I like this"?

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Corn 5 points a year ago

Yes, with very weird emphasis.

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Ledericas 3 points a year ago

if you look at lemmy,ml, grad, and hexbear yea its super political. and then you have .world politics too.

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PussButton 3 points a year ago

Is it?

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Fuck_u_spez_ 4 points a year ago

I have no idea, I blocked everything I could by keyword just like I did with Reddit. I don't even get news here unless it's tech-related, just dogs, memes, and shitposts.

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heythatsprettygood 2 points a year ago

(Morgana from Persona 5 saying "B-Beans?")

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Decoy321 2 points a year ago

Goddamnit. I'm gonna get sooo many reports from this post.

The worst part for me? Fuckin beans.

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Shardikprime 1 point a year ago

A real human bean

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Nangijala 0 points a year ago

Preach, my friend. It is actually the main reason I'm considering deleting my profile because part of the reason I left mainstream social media was to get away from politics and ideological lunatics, but this platform is fucking full of both. Even after filtering out as much of it as possible. Its like a cancer, spreading to every forum page on here.

Is there anywhere on the internet where people are just focusing on hobbies and interests that aren't mired in hatred and aggression?

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Slovene 16 points a year ago

You can just browse your subs, you don't have to browse All.

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Korhaka 10 points a year ago

Technology and memes also frequently lead to political topics.

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AcidicBasicGlitch 10 points a year ago

I mean, don't you think it's at least in part bc politics have invaded just about every aspect of science and tech?

Like I work in research, and over the last 5 months everything has changed. And it's still constantly changing.

I wish it didn't have to be so political, but a lot of people feel like it's not so much a choice to talk about politics. How do you talk about science/tech/healthcare without mentioning very abrupt and invasive policies? Often, I learn about things that will have an impact on my job here before I hear anything from my employer. It's kind of insane.

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Korhaka 1 point a year ago

We aren't all Americans

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Trollception 1 point a year ago

Outside of Lemmy and other social media there is no desire to create a connection to politics at every opportunity. The propaganda machine is real

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Nangijala 3 points a year ago

Even after filtering out as much of it as possible. Its like a cancer, spreading to every forum page on here.

That also goes for the forums I have subbed to.

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Trollception -1 points a year ago

That's absolutely not been my experience. Political topics are normally deleted in other forums I've been on.

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throwawayacc0430 8 points a year ago
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Nangijala -3 points a year ago

This is like saying that everything is religious and that everyone is religious and then making arguments for why everything can be turned into religious doctrin.

You're technically not wrong if you choose to have that lens on for everything, but it is a very limiting way of viewing the world and to someone like me, borderline madness.

It is also more of an uhm actually argument rather than engaging with the point I was making that I think most of us are aware of. When someone says they would like to avoid politics they are more often than not referring to the aggressive and argumentative stupidity that occurs between people when certain inflamed topics - usually current events in politics - are brought up. It is pretty easy to discern that from anyone who says "can we just not talk about politics right now?"

Much like dicks and religion, some people just don't want that shit shoved down their fucking throats constantly because it is rarely if ever productive and beneficial to anyone. It is, at most a passing contest or an attempt to shame and attack people who sees the world differently from yourself.

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MotoAsh 1 point a year ago
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onion_trial 1 point a year ago
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Nangijala 2 points a year ago

I'll try and check it out when I have the time to dive in. I'm honestly leaning more and one toward just cutting the chord and not using the internet for anything other than work related stuff and watching youtube on the DuckDuckGo player. The current state of the internet is for bots and hysterical political people and I'm honestly over it at this point. Even on this knockout place from the brief glance I had, it also looked like a very political place so eh.

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onion_trial 3 points a year ago
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Nangijala 2 points a year ago

For what it's worth, I am very appreciative of you making me aware of Knockout as an alternative. πŸ€—

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SeptugenarianSenate 1 point a year ago

not trying to intrude or provide any valid critique or communicable perspective necessarily, but I was wondering what the concept of β€œPolitical” means, in terms you could best use to describe the feeling/notion to someone? I can think of a couple criteria in mind that I would associate as making a topic that was not otherwise related directly to activities of some level of some government somewhere, suddenly seem β€œPolitical” from my perspective. I am curious mostly just what criteria you might use to filter topics or general ideas?

if I sound like a bot it’s because spectrum disorder not autofill so read carefully for L’s sake

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Nangijala 1 point a year ago

Anything that fits into ideological screeching.

There are plenty of topics out there that are political in nature that I do not mind, but I do mind the combative, aggressive, reductive and unintelligent discourse that has become the norm online. To me it is not actual discussion nor is it people wishing for a better world. It is just angry people screeching into the void and attacking anyone who disagrees with them and calling them whatever slur they can come up with.

I find it childish, unproductive and stupid and I don't want to see or hear it. If I wanted to rot my brain I could just drill a hole in my skull and pour some feces in there. It's the same effect that political screeching has.

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gamermanh 0 points a year ago

Awwwww, does the privileged baby not like seeing that the world sucks?

Too fucking bad, whiner

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Trollception -4 points a year ago

The world does not suck, you are just a negative nancy

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gamermanh 1 point a year ago

Lol, wrong. Good job outing yourself, Nazi

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