I know. I started using the format with periods back in the 90s, before I knew of the standard, and at this point doing it with periods is muscle memory. That's not meant as an excuse, just an explanation. The excuse is laziness.

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Artyom 8 points a year ago

If only there were some international standards organization to make a decision for us!

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NJSpradlin 6 points a year ago

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SpaceNoodle 44 points a year ago

That's ... why I'm here

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kata1yst 42 points a year ago

RFC 3339 if you please. Let's be prescriptive.

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Deestan 16 points a year ago

After all the self-important blowhards in the committe were satisified that they had put their fingerprint on the ISO8601 document with bullshit like "year-month-week" format support and signed off, they went home.

The rest stayed behind, waited a few minutes to be safe, and then quickly made RFC3339 like a proper standard.

This is what RFC3339 vs ISO8601 feels like.

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kata1yst 10 points a year ago

Let's not forget that technically you have to pay for ISO8601, despite it being nearly useless as a standard because it allows several incompatible formats to coexist.

Fucking wild.

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Deestan 7 points a year ago

While a fucking stupid concept, it's nice that this particular format has a monetary deterrent.

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Vinstaal0 1 point a year ago

Only if you want to say you have the certification for it, you can use it if you want, that is fine

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Vinstaal0 2 points a year ago

ISO8601 is YYYY-MM-DD nothing to do with weeks and isn;t the only difference of RFC3339 that you can use a space instead of a T in between the date and time? Also RFC3339 is only an internet standard while ISO is a generally international standard?

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FrederikNJS 3 points a year ago

ISO8601 is much much looser than RFC3339:

https://ijmacd.github.io/rfc3339-iso8601/

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Deestan 3 points a year ago

No idea what you based those claims on, but the spec itself (I have the pdf) and Wikipedia's summary disagree. ISO8601 allows for YYY-MM-DD yes but it allows for a bunch of silly stuff.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

Both "2025-W24-4" and "2025‐163" are valid representations of today's date in ISO8601.

(Also the optional timezone makes it utterly useless.)

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tisktisk 4 points a year ago

Anyone help enlighten me about whatever this and unix epoch are getting at? Are these really more specific/better than iso 8601 and why specifically?

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kata1yst 13 points a year ago

Happily!

So, first epoch time. It's a pretty robust standard, covers many use cases, has few edge cases... but it's specifically for machine usage, since it's not human readable and it's not reversible into the past (pre-1970).

ISO 8601 (depending on the annum), by the text of the documentation, these are all valid dates:

2007-04-05T14:30
2007-04-05T12:30−02:00
2007-04-05T14:30Z
200704051430
07-04-05T14:30
2007-95T14:30

Etc.

RFC 3339 (& RFC 9557, it's newest modification) is actually a subset of ISO 8601 and is far more prescriptive. For example you must have a timezone designator. You must have a separator between the date and time. You must use a dash between date elements and a colon between time elements. You can easily add standardized subseconds.

2007-04-05T12:30−02:00
2007-04-05 14:30Z

This means that RFC 3339 is much easier to parse and use by both machines and humans.

This page (reddit, I know...) has a great summary, and so in the interest of knowledge and attribution I'll link it: https://www.reddit.com/...

This website allows you to more directly compare the two interactively. https://ijmacd.github.io/rfc3339-iso8601/

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tisktisk 5 points a year ago

This is delicious, and I can't say thank you enough. I like this a lot. If anyone has any insight on more superior standards or subsets of these, please inform me. This made my day tho 😊

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Vinstaal0 1 point a year ago

ISO is a wider standard than the RFC standards though which is only for the internet

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vinnymac 32 points a year ago

I’m now imagining a child who must write 2026-05-10T10:06:09.426792Z on all of their tests.

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littleonescared 24 points a year ago

They should also add a timezone since most of us don't live at UTC zero timezones -> 2012-12-28T18:12:33+09:00

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Jesus_666 31 points a year ago

They did; the Z at the end denotes UTC.

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littleonescared 3 points a year ago

My point was not everyone is just at UTC zero but sure Z is also a timezone.

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Vinstaal0 1 point a year ago

Most people communicate mostly with people in the same timezone's, partially because most countries only have one timezone.

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Deestan 6 points a year ago

Microsecond precision is fine for most use cases, but I teach my kids to use nanoseconds.

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Artyom 3 points a year ago

It's a flexible standard. 2026-05-10T10:06:09.426792Z, 2026-05-10 10:06:09.426792Z, 2026-05-10 10:06:09.426792 , and 2026-05-10 all conform to the standard.

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amlor 15 points a year ago

I’m doing my part!

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nickwitha_k 15 points a year ago

ISO 8601/RFC-3339 (Unix Epoch also acceptable) gang reporting in.

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trijste 14 points a year ago

ISO thirsty!

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termaxima 14 points a year ago

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swagmoney 13 points a year ago

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theunknownmuncher 9 points a year ago

It's the only way that makes sense

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BuboScandiacus 7 points a year ago

Hello from Hungary ! We should also democratize the Surname GivenName format

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JacksonLamb 3 points a year ago

Szia. We should indeed.

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QubaXR 6 points a year ago

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ininewcrow 5 points a year ago

Anyone that gives me a document or receipt or invoice with a date formatted DD-MM-YYYY should have a tire iron swung at their thighs

Multiple swings if they can't decide on using DD-MM-YYYY or MM-DD-YYYY or DD-MM-YY or MM-DD-YY or YY-MM-DD or YY-DD-MM

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Vinstaal0 1 point a year ago

I rather have somebody write their invoices at DD-MM-YYYY cause there is a bigger chance it will most likely not be an invoice from a North American company which notriously cannot make proper invoices and most software that actually scans and processes invoices is based on the European standaard DD-MM-YYYY or on ISO8601.

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double_quack 5 points a year ago

YYYY-MM-... well, ya know the deal...

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slaacaa 4 points a year ago

Btw this is how it’s used in some countries (eg., Hungary, Japan, China, and a few others from Asia). All other date formats are very strange and confusing for us

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tisktisk 3 points a year ago

As a big ISO 8601 guy myself, I request explanation of this 9001 addition? Never heard of it till now and am optimistic

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mutilated_sphincter 1 point a year ago

Quality Management Systems, unsure what it has to do with 8601, but guess the fanboy venn diagram overlaps

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nickwitha_k 1 point a year ago

Seconded. Not coming up with much when trying to find out more about it.

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JoMiran 2 points a year ago

sup

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nomecks -4 points a year ago

DD-MM-YYYY-HH-MM-SS

Makes no sense!

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BeigeAgenda 6 points a year ago

I prefer the alphabetical date format DD-HH-MM-SS-mm-yy for maximum confusion

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tisktisk 1 point a year ago

Were you mostly joking or is there a utility to this? Genuinely curious as someone that finds confusing things slightly more memorable in a really backwards way

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BeigeAgenda 5 points a year ago

Yes I was joking, get a random timestamp in this format and you have no idea what it's referring to.

DD:HH:MM:SS:mm:yy is even better because it could be a MAC address.

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SplashJackson 92 points a year ago

This fucknuts who thinks day should come before year, hah! Give me YYYY-MM-DD, because dashes are better than slashes any day of the week.

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glibg 25 points a year ago

This format is the best. Especially for digital file names, because sorting the files by filename also sorts them by date.

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SplashJackson 8 points a year ago

A true professional. Have an upvote.

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Psythik 3 points a year ago

I prefer YYYY.MM.DD, because the dots look aesthetically pleasing when the date is being displayed within the vincity of a clock displaying the time digitally.

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RandomVideos 0 points a year ago

When i first read a date, i want to see the thing that changes 74 times in my entire life first too

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Vinstaal0 1 point a year ago

HA! if you even get to be 74!

But in some jobs the year is more important (bookkeeping/accounting) and doing YYYY-MM-DD automatically sorts your dates

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RandomVideos 1 point a year ago

YYYY-MM-DD obviously has uses, especially with sorting, but that doesnt make it the objectively best date format

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Vinstaal0 3 points a year ago

No I agree, hopefully we can all agree that the MMDDYYYY is the worst date format

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Adulated_Aspersion 77 points a year ago

ISO 8601 gang.

Represent.

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Taleya 62 points a year ago

YYYY-MM-DD if you're doing backup naming, easier to find

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Mic_Check_One_Two 23 points a year ago

Yup, versioned files ALWAYS get a YYYY-MM-DD HHMM timestamp. So when you sort alphabetically, they sort chronologically.

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neuroneiro 3 points a year ago

“Apologies, Jason. It’s you & not me.

You’re just the opposite of the man I could ever want to spend the rest of my years with.”

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Gladaed 0 points a year ago

Wrong, not for windows. 1<5<10 there.

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Vigge93 7 points a year ago

That's why you always have the same number of digits. 01 < 05 < 10

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ILikeBoobies 0 points a year ago

Or you’re Canadian

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phoenixz 62 points a year ago

Immediate red flag, we all know that YYYY/MM/DD is the only acceptable perfect date

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some_guy 13 points a year ago

Agreed. As a nonviolent person, I'm willing to go to war over this. Can't have two files from different years listed side by side because they were from the first day of different months. That's anarchy.

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Vinstaal0 7 points a year ago

Actually YYYY-MM-DD is better since it can be used basically everywhere and with / it can't be used in filenames

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nexguy 5 points a year ago

Preeeety sure it's stardate.

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phantomwise 1 point a year ago

I thought that was unix time /s

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DarkDarkHouse 2 points a year ago

No, it's a unix directory structure

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Vinstaal0 51 points a year ago

iso8601 aka 2025-06-12

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jimjam5 48 points a year ago

My time abroad has taught me that YYYY/MM/DD is the way to format dates.

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InternetCitizen2 18 points a year ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

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ztwhixsemhwldvka 3 points a year ago

thank you for spreading the good word

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NikkiDimes 11 points a year ago

My time using a computer and trying to have any semblance of organization has taught me the same

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MangioneDontMiss 9 points a year ago

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13igTyme 43 points a year ago

YYYYMMDDHHMMSS is the only acceptable format.

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spooky2092 18 points a year ago

ISO 8601 is clearly much superior due to being delimited.

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6nk06 4 points a year ago

ISO is paywalled therefore inferior than the free RFC.

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squaresinger 1 point a year ago

Nope, it clearly should be mmsshhMMDDYYYY

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squaresinger 37 points a year ago

For consistency, Americans should adopt mm:ss.hh MM-DD-YYYY.

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ManixT 12 points a year ago

For consistency, Europeans should adopt ss:mm:hh DD-MM-YYYY.

See how ridiculous that is? ISO8601 or GTFO

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RandomVideos 11 points a year ago

The european one is sorted based on importance to see. The day is more important than the month which is more important than the year. The hour is more important than the minute which is more important than the second

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tomenzgg 3 points a year ago

But in any given situation where the month is important enough that I need to know it, I want to know the month regardless of the day. The 25th means fuck all to me unless I know the month, as well; whereas there are plenty of scenarios where I want to know the month but the day isn't quite as important.

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MrScottyTay 4 points a year ago

Usually if someone just says the 25th that means of the current month. The month only needs to be referred to if it's not the same as the current. (In conversation)

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squaresinger 1 point a year ago

In that case, nothing is stopping you from saying the month only.

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RandomVideos -1 points a year ago

The same thing happens to the year and day too

January means nothing if you dont know the year

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squaresinger 10 points a year ago

At least ss:mm:hh and DD-MM-YYYY are internally consistent, even if they aren't consistent with each other.

MM-DD-YYYY isn't even internally consistent.

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wetbeardhairs 10 points a year ago

You monster

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joel_feila 2 points a year ago

Nah they should adopt metric time and nothing else.

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esc27 30 points a year ago

If you use DD/MM/YYYY then logically you should also use ss:mm:hh

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xia 12 points a year ago

SMH...

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rmuk 16 points a year ago

Sarcastically Shaking My Many Hydra Heads.

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JacksonLamb 1 point a year ago

This is probably the best comment I have seen all year.

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Redex68 2 points a year ago

No, because in most cases the most important information about a date is the day, then month, then year. It also matches the way we read dates. For the time it's typically the hour, then minutes, then seconds. YYYY/MM/DD is better when naming files, but in UIs I much prefer DD/MM/YYYY, it's just more natural to the way we read.

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Vinstaal0 2 points a year ago

Or just use ISO8601 whi uses hh:mm:ss and well it is an ISO standard, but at least DD:MM:YYYY makes more sense than what Americans are doing.

Also 4th of july ....

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spooky2092 1 point a year ago

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n3cr0 27 points a year ago

Don't go with this psycho! He mixes European style order with US style punctuation.

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Brewchin 6 points a year ago

Standard in Australia. And common in the UK (it's traditionally a dot, but slash is more common now).

But I'm team ISO-8601 when there's a chance of an international audience. At least where locale information can't be used.

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BuboScandiacus 4 points a year ago

US style punctation?

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n3cr0 -3 points a year ago

I mean slashes / instead of colons .

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hemko 5 points a year ago

Talking of colons, both of those "formats" are pulled from one

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ParadoxSeahorse 3 points a year ago

That’s not a colon. Both are commonly in use in Europe. USA just switched the d/m

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tomenzgg 3 points a year ago

Is it really switching if that was the way it was traditionally done and they just kept doing it that way?

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BuboScandiacus 1 point a year ago

Ohh

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Geist_ 4 points a year ago

common in Belgium, probably other countries too

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Lucidlethargy 24 points a year ago

This is stupid AF.

YYYY/MM/DD

This is the best choice.

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UndercoverUlrikHD 28 points a year ago

/ isn't a valid char in filenames, yyyy-mm-dd is better

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uniquethrowagay 2 points a year ago

Its the better choice for digital data I guess. In every day use, the day is the most important thing, then month, then year.

From context, I usually know the year. Probably even the month. So I'll use DD.MM.YYYY. If someone asks me when we're going to meet I won't say "twenty-twentyfive", June, twentieth. And I'm guessing you don't do that either.

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pyrflie 19 points a year ago

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Matombo 15 points a year ago

small correction: YYYY-MM-DD to avoid common special meanings chars

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iAmTheTot 18 points a year ago

For computing or sorting purposes, YYYY-MM-DD is best. But in day to day writing a date, I prefer DD-MON-YYYY.

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MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown 13 points a year ago

11-006-2025 ?

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hemko 9 points a year ago

11-Jun-2025

It's shit format but at least it's better than 11.6.2025 or 6/11/2025

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RampageDon 6 points a year ago

11-Jun-2025

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SpaceNoodle 10 points a year ago

Single letter for month is too ambiguous - how do you tell apart June, July and January? Also, what do O and N denote?

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Habahnow 3 points a year ago

Seems you missed the point, it's first three letters of the month, not one. Edit: seems I missed the joke on the post.

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syklemil 6 points a year ago

The O is for the kind of whooshing sound

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Habahnow 3 points a year ago

I see it now FML. Editing my comment.

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shutz 5 points a year ago

What if the day in question isn't a Monday?

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Lucidlethargy 1 point a year ago

I'm sorry that you're wrong... What a bummer.

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lambalicious 16 points a year ago

Excuse me but !iso8601@lemmy.sdf.org .

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hydrashok 14 points a year ago

That's a tough one. I would have to say April 25. Because it's not too hot, not too cold, all you need is a light jacket.

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hacktheegg 11 points a year ago

I'm fine with anything in the realm of yyyymmdd or reversed, as long as it isn't the confusing format that is common in the USA

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Railcar8095 10 points a year ago

I'm the only one annoyed about DD/MM/YYYY not being a date, but a date "format"?

Not only it's a recycled joke, it doesn't even make sense.

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derfunkatron 3 points a year ago

DD/MM/YYYY or YYYY-MM-DD are formatting conventions for expressing dates. The date itself is probably converted from some date object anyway, like the Unix Epoch, and can be expressed in any variety of formats.

Wednesday, June 11, 2025 is a date. dddd, mmm dd, yyyy or %A, %B %d, %Y is a format.

Edit: I’m pretty sure I misread the comment above.

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wdx 8 points a year ago

rfc3339 my beloved

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Lembot_0003 6 points a year ago

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58008 5 points a year ago

When talking about the date with another human, DD/MM (+YYYY if required); when doing anything related to the sorting of files by date, YYYY/MM/DD.

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astrsk 5 points a year ago

YYYYMMdd is best for file names.

I prefer verbose for my task bar

ddd, MMMM dd, hh:mm:ss ap (t) Wed, June 11, 09:49:35 am (PDT)

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Speiser0 3 points a year ago

Nice ragebaiting.

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MTK 3 points a year ago

Epoch, takes a bit of practice but I already read it fluently and often make fun of everyone arpund me for not knowing how to read a clock (my clock)

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StaticFalconar 2 points a year ago

Why is there no format that gives the month in three letter abbreviation so its clear cut what it means?

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joel_feila 2 points a year ago

That's what the us armed forces do. Jun-12-2025

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Zwiebel 2 points a year ago

(D)D.(M)M.YY

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ParadoxSeahorse 1 point a year ago

l jS F Y

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Kolanaki 1 point a year ago

Perfect date: We stay in bed snuggling while watching furry movies, meme compilations, or playing video games.

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i_stole_ur_taco 1 point a year ago

DD-MMM-YYYY

Ambiguity be damned.

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pewpew -1 points a year ago

That's objectively the correctest format

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SoupBrick -13 points a year ago

MM/DD/YY for me.

Edit: I learned something new today.

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Kusimulkku 11 points a year ago

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ininewcrow 9 points a year ago

I never downvote people on Lemmy but I did for this one .... I just spent the past month going through some invoicing and paper receipts and it is absolutely infuriating to still see some businesses using MM-DD-YY while others insist on DD-MM-YY and some businesses have invoicing and receipt printers that use one or the other but not the same. It's not a big deal if you are dealing with documents that are a month or two old because you can guess from what time period they come from ... but it is absolutely confusing if documents get older than that.

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syklemil 6 points a year ago

I escaped reddit for this?

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StarvingMartist 3 points a year ago

I stand by this man, do your worst Lemmy.

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0ops 3 points a year ago

I'm giving you a pity upvote lol

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Stillwater 3 points a year ago

Stop it Patrick you're scaring them!

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Bahnd 3 points a year ago

Hello, Y2K called, this is literally what caused it. Years stored in 2-digits had to be fixed on every computer on the planet before the calendar rolled to 2000. (People thought nukes would fly, glitches would crash the stock market and the world was going to end)

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Deestan 3 points a year ago

MM/YY for me. People can figure out the day of month themselves.

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Samsy 2 points a year ago

Upvoted, because never blame someone who learned something new.

YYYY-MM-DD is for Files

DD.MM.YYYY is for writing a date down.

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TheThrillOfTime 1 point a year ago

Dang you're getting down voted but this is how all Americans talk. It's June 4th 2022.

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Trollception 1 point a year ago

Apparently (if you believe things from Lemmy) the American date format is 'barbaric' because it's different from the norm.

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Trollception -2 points a year ago

Same here buddy. It's what I use every day. Welcome to Lemmy, apparently being American is unwelcome around here.

Oh also. Windows, OneDrive and Google really russles some jimmies round here.

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Spectrism 2 points a year ago

Being American isn't unwelcome here. Using barbaric date formats is.

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Trollception 1 point a year ago

Pretty sure that's debatable. I've seen quite a bit of American hate on Lemmy

In general Lemmy is a fairly hateful place, lots of bitter individuals.

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