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Chozo 128 points a year ago

I can count the amount of fucks any tech giant gives about Clippy avatars on a snake's hands.

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klangcola 70 points a year ago

On the other hand, seeing this symbol more and more on other random videos outside that bubble does give a very nice sense of "I am not alone". It does more for users to find eachother than it does damage to big corpos.

But choice of the symbol itself is questionable.. Why use a big tech symbol to protest big tech? -__- And not just any big tech, but super evil 90s monopolistic giant Microsoft

There's a nice cartoon in this thread we're clippy is if he could have, he would have harvest all your data.

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cyrano 16 points a year ago

Come on. Changing an avatar picture has never achieved anything. On top of that, changing to a corporate mascot to fight corporate greed….give me a break. Theyre are better actions to take like being on fediverse instead of Reddit or other social media platforms or using libre office. I get the rant but an avatar change doesn’t mean anything.

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asudox 6 points a year ago

It's mostly idiots who want to be part of something and some that don't like what is happening and so put in the least amount of effort pathetically to attempt a change, and this only when someone popular suggests.

They never really want to stop using the product. It's like drug addicts trying to make drugs less addicting by "protesting" against the very thing they use (and will keep using) literally everyday.

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Nangijala 13 points a year ago

Personally, I have more of a "I'm not alone" feeling when I actively leave services that I disagree with and through word of mouth find alternatives where I can talk to people who seem to have the same base values I do. Even if we disagree on other things.

It's the laziness of this initiative that drives me up a wall. People want change but they don't want to work for or sacrifice anything for it.

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cyrano 4 points a year ago

I agree with you

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ToxicWaste 3 points a year ago

we can argue about the choice of symbol until the world ends. the symbol is just a thing people can recognise and rally around.

the first step of any movement is to gather people. then do something. so yes, changing a picture is lazy, but it is a virtual rally point. he talks about next steps in another video: https://odysee.com/...

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Nangijala 2 points a year ago

Good on him that he's actually planning on doing something more than just have ppl change their avatar. Maybe he should have put that in the original video instead of getting mad that people are calling him out for slacktivism.

Also, I have not argued the choice of symbol at any point. I don't care what image people put as their profile pic. What I was arguing was that it is weak to change your profile pic for a cause if you then keep using the products you're protesting against.

If he and the people joining his movement actually manage to make positive change, then I'm all for it. It just wasn't clear in his first video that he had ambitions to actively have laws changed. It sounded like he wanted people to change their pics that that would somehow make everybody rebel against their corporate overlords. If he didn't want people to think that was his movement, he should have elaborated in the same video instead of playing coy and splitting it up into two videos where he gets to call the critics of his movement apathetic idiots.

Good luck to him and those who join the movement. I hope they manage to make some changes.

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umbrella 1 point a year ago

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mrgoosmoos 9 points a year ago

It's a good thing that's not what it's about then. It's about showing the size of the community, and knowing that there are other people like you that care, and thus you will be more likely to actually do something.

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tisktisk 2 points a year ago

Had me in the first half, but I don't see any clippys doing much of anything but ishposting

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Nangijala 1 point a year ago

Thank you. I needed that chuckle 😂❤️

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Fizz 117 points a year ago

I'm not changing my PFP to a Microsoft product in hopes Microsoft stops fucking people. Slackativism is cringe.

I just move away to freedom respecting tech and talk about it with the people around me.

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Magnum 42 points a year ago

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Paula_Tejando 16 points a year ago

Louis does sniff his own farts a lot.

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cyrano -16 points a year ago

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cyrano 59 points a year ago

So going on an ads platform to put the icon of a corporation to claim that this is helping? I’m really having hard times to understand the logic.

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safesyrup 19 points a year ago

No, it won‘t. What this does is helping you take action and fight against it, knowing you are not alone. It really gives you moral support when seeing clippy on other youtube videos making you feel there are many of you who do not tolerate the bullshit.

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cyrano 1 point a year ago

So using a Microsoft product to fight against corporate’s greed like Microsoft. Just use libre office or any alternative instead of “changing picture” on ads platforms.

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MacAnus 5 points a year ago

And to continue my reply to your other comment, using libre office or an alternative won't have that rallying cry effect, since you're doing it on your own.

It sounds dumb but many people won't do what they believe is right if they're alone and if the alternative is easier.

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safesyrup 1 point a year ago

Just watch the video, he explains why. Don‘t hate on the initiative, he is on your side and tries to change things for the better.

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prole 7 points a year ago

It's purely to make people feel better about themselves

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MacAnus 0 points a year ago

Try to forget about the weird mascot choice. It's just a rallying cry.

I also don't really get why the clippy and he probably could have picked a better avatar for people to use.

The point is (I think) that people who know what it's about will feel the support of all these strangers sharing their view, and people who don't know might look it up and get sensibilized to the cause.

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cyrano 2 points a year ago

Come on the video is monetized. Next week that dude will say jump and you jump? Enough with TikToker.

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safesyrup 0 points a year ago

How do you know the video is monetized? Just because it has advertisements does not mean he gets a cent.

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Nangijala 50 points a year ago

Pff. This reminds me of the This Is Bob protest against the forced Google+ accounts that were the beginning of youtube enshittification. It didn't do shit. Anyone who wants a profile on youtube nowadays has a Google account. Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn't. Google has total control over anyone who wants to use YouTube now.

You can set clippy as your profile pic and feel like you have done something, but it's not gonna change anything.

If people want to actually do something, they should abandon these predatory services and go open source or maybe become anti tech as much as possible. It doesn't matter whether or not you signal to the Zuckerburgers on top how you feel if you're just gonna continue to use their products.

The only thing that would scare them would be the numbers plummeting if they saw a mass exodus from their platforms and services and people actively began looking for alternatives. But most people can't be fucked to do that because they are too enmeshed with these services that it is easier to stay. But putting clippy as your profile pic is super easy and costs you nothing so yay. You get to feel like you did something without actually sacrificing anything to make change and the Zuckerburgers will look at you and shrug. "Ah, the peasants are blowing off some steam again".

Sorry for being so negative, but this is honestly so fucking weak. I may have missed something, but when has slacktivism ever changed the minds of these companies?

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pezhore 8 points a year ago

when has slacktivism ever changed the minds

Hey, don't you remember how changing your Twitter profile picture to have a green overlay encouraged the Arab Spring to bring lasting democracy all over the Middle East?!? /s

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Nangijala 0 points a year ago

Lol, did people do that? I only remember the black square for the blm movement, but I have also never really been on Twitter, so most of what I know about trends on that platform is what has been shared on other platforms.

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merc 4 points a year ago

Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn't.

Google+ was Google's attempt to take on Facebook with its own social product. It definitely failed, and the intent and mission failed too. That isn't to say that they have no social data, but they definitely don't have access to the full social graph that Meta does.

It wasn't a complete failure. Before Google+ Google's various products were all siloed. Your data in gmail was in a different silo from you data from search, which was different from your data from Google Reader, etc. As part of the Google+ push, Google put out an EULA that basically said that it could share data from any google product you used with any other google product you used and it was one big unified account now. Thanks to that, they're able to target their ads based on much more data. But, they still wish they'd been able to get a Facebook competitor up and running so they could see more clearly who your friends and family were. There's so much interpersonal data they're missing out on.

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outhouseperilous 3 points a year ago

Only one thing you can do to these bloated lizard-ass fuckers sipping boy-blood and soaking in little girl pussy on the most otherwise beautiful land in the world as the paranoiac securitization gradually creeps out from them building seemingly spontaneous bunker complexes everywhere they step will ever dissuade any of them from literally anything.

I do of course mean voting. You should vote for them.

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Krauerking 2 points a year ago

I do really think that one of the things we have to do as collective, is something somewhat impossible but,
We need to pick the things we really care about. Limit ourselves from the everything that we have been offered for so long and find what brings us joy specifically and start following and protecting that and doing it off the Internet, or at least the at large big players.
Find artists in our spaces locally that make the comedy, or comics, or stories, the developers that make their own games and movies that dont outsource their work to others so that it no longer feels like art.

We can still have globalised sharing and our spaces can support that by raising up the best of the best naturally through communication and sharing but not just by being told it's gonna be big or given to us easily.

The only way out feels like we as a collective need to start putting work into cultivating and tending to our fandoms and we cant be as greedy as it will take more work. Im fine with us being an insatiable species craving for more cause its how we don't stop, and i want new artists and new creators and new spaces. But i think we cant be lazy about it anymore. And i think doubly so we cant think we can do all of it.

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Nangijala 4 points a year ago

Problem is that the majority of people are not going to do any of that because it takes work and people either don't want to let go of comforts, they don't care enough or they don't have the energy to be digital activists after they have finished a day of work.

It will probably only gain traction if it becomes the cool thing to do among young people and even then, it will most likely be a smaller number of young people who will bother doing all of this.

The rest will become really good at prompting their way through life because its easier, more comfortable and takes the least effort.

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Krauerking 2 points a year ago

Yeah i mean that seems likely with how things are going but also things rarely go exactly to plan.

Im a realist so, i accept that it is entirely possible its gonna keep getting worse. I'm just also a sucker for optimism and maybe someday it will be better.

Probably not tomorrow or next year... Probably gonna be a lot more of this for a while.

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Nangijala 3 points a year ago

Hold on to your optimism! We need people like you.

I consider myself a pessimistic optimist. Things probably aren't gonna happen the way we hoped, but we will adapt and make some lemonade with what we are given.

It's so rare that hyped movements go anywhere because the focus is always on the wrong things, but in the long term, if companies make it increasingly obnoxious to use their services, people will most likely silently make the move to open source through word of mouth. It isn't as sexy and bombastic as making clippy your avatar and doing armchair V for Vendetta protests, but it's through people's silent choices that change will gradually happen. Whether or not this change will be felt on a grand scale, I don't know. I also don't really care. I just believe that over time, more and more people will eventually turn their back on the big tech companies while the rest will stick around either out of indifference or ignorance and that is their right too.

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november 43 points a year ago

Clippy is such a stupid mascot for this "movement".

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metaStatic 2 points a year ago

how so? I think it's absolutely perfect that what was once emblematic of corporate overreach into our lives would be welcomed as preferable to the current state of affairs. Clippy didn't want to sell your data to bounty hunters, he just wanted to help.

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ryven 21 points a year ago

He absolutely would have sold your data if there were any buyers for it. Microsoft was still a terrible company in the Clippy era, there just were fewer opportunities to be terrible in this particular way at the time.

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cyrano 12 points a year ago

Clippy is Microsoft!! So you are using a Microsoft product to fight against Microsoft? Just use libre office or other tool set instead.

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metaStatic 0 points a year ago

well the last thing I'd want to do is infringe Microsoft's IP ... what is the FOSS alternative to Clippy?

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november 3 points a year ago

I mean, Tux is right there.

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kolorafa -1 points a year ago

Fight fire with fire? 😅

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zaknenou -1 points a year ago

Clippy symbolizes the attachment our generation has to the old state of software:

you bought it? Then it runs offline for sure!
nothing runs on background, except if you turn it on (Yes I never turned on Windows default protection on Win xp or win 7
You bought? You own it, you format it, you don't pay for subscription, and there is practically nothing stopping you from modifying it if you go hacker.

On top of that Clippy looks cute. Personally I'm not participating in the movement since I'm not American, but imo the choice does make sense.
While I'm typing from Ubuntu, I only switched to Linux cuz I can't get back to the old state of win xp or win 7 that was perfect imo. While some are trying to convert people into Linux, others are trying to restore the corporate business to the old acceptable state.
Neither will succeed alone, and in fact those companies are using resources of your country to produce this shit, so it makes sense that you demand it to not suck that hard.

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cyrano 10 points a year ago

That is nostalgia talking. Microsoft was evil at that time. I will rather that the tiktoker use his monetized video to talk about Linux. He is creating a false movement just for money and eye ball purpose. Be real.

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Rusty 40 points a year ago

Changing your profile picture to Clippy to me seems the same as boomers posting "I DO NOT GIVE PERMISSION TO FACEBOOK".

Just delete your account and stop using it.

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rikudou 35 points a year ago

That'll show them! I'm gonna use a corporate mascot to show them I'm against corporations!

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generaldenmark 31 points a year ago

It is very silly.

The video is monetized, and by having some ppl change their pfp to clippy and then linking to his video - I mean congrats to Mr. Rossmann for the big $$$

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Rai 13 points a year ago

I really don’t like him

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k0e3 8 points a year ago

I've only seen one other video of his, and I have to agree with you. He — at least in that video I saw — talked like an angry manosphere podcaster and it's not something that I enjoy. It's too bad because I think his message was pretty good. It was about digital cameras requiring apps for it to function and how that's bullshit.

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merc 1 point a year ago

He became famous for fixing computers, mostly Apple products, while complaining about how bad Apple Genius bars were, and how unfair Apple's business practices are. I can respect that, and it was good that someone was speaking up about it.

You'd expect someone like that to be pro-regulation, anti-monopoly, pro-union, etc. But, it does seem like his motivation is more libertarian, and that's what makes me worry.

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Rai -13 points a year ago

I agree with what you’re saying but you REALLY 100% write like an LLM

Edit: you are an LLM which is worse

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Walk_blesseD 8 points a year ago

me when someone I disagree with uses punctuation I don't like

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apotheotic 6 points a year ago

The only thing LLMy about their comment is the emdashes - nothing abiut the rest of the structure or word choice says LLM to me. Neither does anything in their post history (again, aside from the use of emdashes).

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metaStatic 5 points a year ago

Crazy thing is he also uploads to Odysee and paid to develop grayjay, I'm not even subscribed to his youtube channel and thanks to him I'm moving as many subs off the platform as possible. Quite a few creators upload all their shit to other platforms.

also if you're watching someone who advocates for adblockers without using one yourself that's on you.

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nooneescapesthelaw 5 points a year ago

He barely makes money off of these videos (negligible) and encourages all his users to use adblockers.

Given his target audience I'm sure he's at the lower end of the money paid per view. Also he could've taken a sponsorship on anyone of his hundreds of videos but he has not so far, so not really big $$$

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Banzai51 3 points a year ago

This screams, "SHOOT THE MESSENGER!" If you wait around looking for a perfect, pristine leader of a movement, you'll get less done than a petition.

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Ethanol 27 points a year ago

I've seen this posted before, so it's definitely been discussed on Lemmy before. Reading the comments back then is much like reading the comments here, Clippy does not really seem fit as a corporation fighting symbol and frankly changing your pfp will most likely have no impact to Youtubes management. Why not simply go for a Reddit blackout kind of protest where everyone switches all their videos to unlisted or blocking monetization on their videos (if that is possible)? That will surely get the attention of Youtube.

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BlueMagma 21 points a year ago

The goal is to show each other we are many. He explained it in another video, the clippy movement actually had an impact. This is simply the first step for organising as a group around a shared idea: using a common symbol. It doesn't matter what the symbol is, as long as we recognize each other using it.

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Nelots 18 points a year ago

Why not simply go for a Reddit blackout

Well the whole reddit thing was just a bunch of volunteer mods. On the other hand, many YouTubers make a career out of the platform. Considering their livelihoods are at stake, and the vast number of YouTubers you would need to get on board to make google actually care? Organizing such a thing would be anything but simple.

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Randomgal 4 points a year ago

Also the Reddit blackout did nothing. So I'm not why that's your reference point. Charging pfp would achieve exactly the same. Nothing.

Americans love their nothing burger demonstrations.

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Grimpen 5 points a year ago

I think the Reddit blackout did a lot, just not everything. I'm here on Lemmy because of it. Granted I'm still on Reddit as well, and Mastodon, and Xitter...

Just keep plugging along, and every little bit helps.

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viking 22 points a year ago

What's that clippy stuff about? I asked elsewhere and someone posted a youtube clip. Not gonna waste 15 minutes of my life watching this shit.

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18107 28 points a year ago

Clippy never sold your data or demanded a subscription fee for something you already bought. Clippy just tried to help.

The clippy movement is not about clippy as a program, but as an idea that companies need to be held accountable, and that we will hold them accountable.
If a company tries to make a feature a paid subscription after you paid for the product, or releases and update that removes your privacy, we will be watching and we will hold them accountable.

Companies can lie to one person or hide changes from a few people, but they can't handle all of us. Samsung has already reversed their added subscription fee for a smart TV as a result of community action.

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viking 3 points a year ago

Awesome, thanks a lot for the elaborate reply, much appreciated!

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mrgoosmoos 5 points a year ago

It's about that, but it's also at this point just about showing and spreading the community. People will be more likely to actually take action if they know that there are more like them.

will most people with clippy as their pfp actually do anything beyond a few comments? nope. but there will be more people who do than if clippy wasn't used as a mascot

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flora_explora 21 points a year ago

Maybe just delete your youtube account? I've never even had a youtube account at all and I'm a heavy youtube consumer...

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zaknenou 0 points a year ago

hmm, I'm only starting a discussion to enjoy and farm karma tbh, but you surprised me. In my experience, only normie stuff, political propaganda (chad Trump, Putin or my country's governor) or women in little to no clothing constitute the whole of your recommendation if you don't use an account. Even on new phone, new sim card data.

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prole 3 points a year ago

Let me blow your mind even more: I don't access the YouTube website at all, and therefore I never see their recommendations.

I use FreeTube.

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SnotFlickerman 21 points a year ago

No I'm American and I just think it's silly and won't change anything.

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a_wild_mimic_appears 19 points a year ago

Clippy already was a big step in the wrong direction from Microsoft, i'm not gonna celebrate mistakes of the past because they seem benign in comparison to todays mistakes.

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Korhaka 7 points a year ago

What about Tux throwing clippy in the bin? Acknowledgement and shows it doesn't go far enough

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piccolo 4 points a year ago

Clippy wasnt a bad idea, especially in an era where computers were just becoming mainstream. But just like most microsoft's products, the poor implementation made it useless and annoying...

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metaStatic 19 points a year ago

We don't discuss companies screwing us here but us screwing companies.

I think the clippy movement is cute so yes I'm wearing the mask, just let me know when we're blowing up parliament.

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tisktisk 1 point a year ago

Why isn't there a V for Vendetta 2? I guess after they broke through the barricades, they changed their pfp and called it a day

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TimewornTraveler 19 points a year ago

I've been out touching grass, what's all this about?

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BlueMagma 8 points a year ago

Clippy is becoming a shared symbol. The idea it represents is that: we are not happy with the way companies lock us out of our own devices. We want to be allowed to do whatever we want with the hardware we bought. We want to be able to repair it. We want privacy when using it... Etc...

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yetAnotherUser 1 point a year ago

What motivated the choice of Clippy as a symbol? Meme value?

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rmuk 8 points a year ago

Kinda, but also that Clippy (real name Clippit, as it happens) was included as a feature that was genuinely intended to be helpful. Like, that's not to say it was successful, or appreciated, but that it came from a time when you could buy a product in the expectation that you'd own it, you could keep it and it'd work for you, not for someone else.

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ToxicWaste 3 points a year ago

lazy copy of my comment in another thread:

here, the video which started all: https://odysee.com/...

and where he goes a bit more into detail and talks about many of the points seen in this thread: https://odysee.com/...

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spez 19 points a year ago

This comment section does not understand what Rossmann's trying to do. Obviously google, facebook etc. are not going to fall to the ground with tears in their eyes with this. It's more about building and organizing the community, to make them feel their not alone and something can and should be taken back. This is analogous to how 4chan making Trump their meme candidate helped him out a fair bit.

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Nangijala 17 points a year ago

The real question is of course whether or not anyone is gonna do something past changing their profile pictures.

I give this trend a couple of months. Maximum a year and then a bunch of people will have clippy avatars and everything will go back to normal.

Something like Stop Killing Games was an initiative that only survived because one man dedicated a good portion of his life to get the issue brought before the eyes of actual politicians. Even before the pirate software drama, Ross had been talking about this issue for years and many people agreed, but nobody did anything except for Ross. Maybe the petition would have reached its goal without piratesoftware's initial meddling. Maybe it wouldn't. His subsequent sperging turned failure into success, but the issue is still in process to be reviewed and maybe it will be a win, maybe the lobbyists will shut it down. We don't know yet. But without Ross' stubbornness, nothing would be done.

Imagine if Ross had told gamers to change their profile pic to pacman to show game companies and consumers that "we dont agree with the companies' practices? That would be a total joke.

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lmmarsano -1 points a year ago

Obviously google, facebook etc. are not going to fall to the ground with tears in their eyes with this.

It won't? Well, that clinches it: I'm out.

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ganamasawa 17 points a year ago

No, simply because I've never commented on youtube, so it'd be pretty useless, if not counterproductive. Giving even more information about my political/tech ethics to Alphabet doesn't seem smart nor useful in my position. Also, I don't even watch youtube videos on their website now. I usually use invidious instances or newpipe.

But I'm not against people doing it, especially if the ultimate goal is spreading awareness and building a community of people with privacy oriented ideas.

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zaknenou 0 points a year ago

I'm on the same boat, except for the part about not using Youtube. Unfortunately I'm caught in that spiral where I watch every clickbait_y video about new programming language, new tech stack ...ect. Are you able to watch every video normally with invidious and newpipe on Desktop (Linux/Windows) ? My experience wasn't going that well, also Youtube is so good because of the bandwidth and you easily switch quality.

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4shtonButcher 1 point a year ago

I'm using FreeTube on desktop. World pretty well. If you lots an update you might have issues before getting the latest version

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ganamasawa 0 points a year ago

Are you able to watch every video normally with invidious and newpipe on Desktop (Linux/Windows) ?

In my experience, yes. For desktop usage you can use invidious from browser and freetube [https://freetubeapp.io/] as external client/software (but I've never used Freetube so I can't comment on that). Newpipe is android only and I HIGHLY recommend it if you have Android.

The problem with invidious instances is that sometimes they get pretty laggy because of server overloads (I guess? honestly idk). You also don't have your account tailored recommendation, but in my experience you can jump around a lot, especially if your main interest are programming videos.

Another method I use is downloading the videos I'm interested into using JDownloader 2, but that's pretty extreme and I relied on this to combat my "algorithm addiction". Got fed up by it months ago, so I put my favourite channels on a RSS feeds and downloaded only the videos I was truly interested into. Usually downloading videos require way less bandwidth than streaming.

(edited for spelling errors, eh)

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zaknenou 0 points a year ago

I remember using Newpipe before my Android device got stolen, but back then I got recommended so much normie stuff, and comment were flooded with nsfw accounts (weird profile pictures)

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nullpotential 17 points a year ago

No

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FriendOfDeSoto 17 points a year ago

but nobody is discussing this initiative

Well, go ahead. Discuss it. I don't know what it is.

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SitD 12 points a year ago

how are there so many low iq comments about other mascot suggestions. rossman is doing something and he got traction. any people eternally caught in argument about details will never get the momentum to do anything. i used to not like clippy just like a lot of people, don't get me wrong, but just focus on the important core idea, and the large exposure that is unique for the current moment and finally gives a glimmer of hope.

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NuXCOM_90Percent 5 points a year ago

The issue is what this even accomplishes.

Traction is indeed important. But people also get exhausted (how many folk were whinging about "first I needed to make my avatar a rainbow and now it needs to be black? Oh, you mean a black box. Whoopsie" back in 2020?). It is why "just do something, it doesn't matter what" is such a stupid fucking mentality because you waste the general good will towards pointless slacktivism and then people stop caring by the time you have an idea of how to utilize them.

Which... is where the Rossman comes in. I have a lot of issues with him as a human being but as an activist he is REALLY effective... for Right to Repair... for repair shops. But he has also made his career on convincing everyday people that he is fighting for them when he is really using them as ammunition for making sure his repair shop (that totally doesn't violate any labor laws...) can stay running because OBVIOUSLY this lobbyist movement to support activity that requires a full hotplate and high powered microscope is something that everyday consumers care about (sort of in the sense of having options, but at this scale the poison pill apple compliance is actually probably just as good, if not better, for consumers)

I haven't been able to even find a good explanation of what this is even supposed to accomplish. But, dime to a dollar, it is Rossman et al demonstrating how quickly he can mobilize The Internet as a negotiating tactic for whatever he and his lobbyist buddies are pushing on right now.

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Krauerking -1 points a year ago

Im actually fine with "just do something" mentality.

Cause if every person did to the limit of what they are capable of things would still change.

For Rossman the limit of what he is capable of might be changing laws via his followers so he can keep his repair shop running. For others it might be legal efforts. For some it could be talking directly to their parents who are the wealthy overlords, and for some it might mean running themselves. And for some its just beinf oart of a chorus that shouts what they believe in.
It has worked for religion for so long.

We are a numbers species. We arent as clever as we think and individuals actually rarely get anything singularly done themselves. But we cant stop at whats easy but what is within our reach.
If everyone "did what they can" to make the world a better place, we just might have a shot at it.

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NuXCOM_90Percent 3 points a year ago

We are a numbers species

And we only have power when we act in numbers towards a focused goal.

This is why we (should) have (more) Unions instead of just "Negotiate for yourself and everyone will benefit". And that, inherently, needs leaders who know how to work towards a shared purpose.

Everyone should work towards making the world a better place. But we also need to understand what we are actually working towards and what those "somethings" actually can accomplish.

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Krauerking 2 points a year ago

Yeah. Agreed but chicken or the egg right?

Uts easy to say we just need the unions and groups but we need to build them by people just starting.

We definitely need to pick people to leas us better and not pazily accept people saying they are the right personto lead simply because they are.
It helps when we have a shared idea of what better is.

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IckabodKobain 11 points a year ago

no. I think Goatse would make more of an impact than Clippy. But something tells me there'd be a problem with that

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fin 10 points a year ago

Why do that when we have a better alternative

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MacAnus 4 points a year ago

What is this?

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fin 5 points a year ago

Symbol of opensource

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AyuTsukasa 5 points a year ago

I thought it was the Breath of the Wild stamina wheel 😅

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MacAnus 2 points a year ago

Nice, thanks

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Profligate_Parasite 10 points a year ago

Y know this comment section-and every other i see when this vid comes up- is a perfect illustration of why the left always loses. We would rather criticize everything/anything than DO anything. Who fucking CARES if they care, if the notice, if it matters or affects anything??? Who fucking CARES who/what the mascot is??? The message is something im reasonably sure 99.99 percent of usernames in this particular commie off brand reddit corner of the internet AGREE WITH. Yet. We sit here shouting at each other and arguing over each fucking comment, nuance and semantic instead of doing even the tiniest, most trivial resistance... this more than anything is why the left is so useless and despicable, as a movement. Theyre too busy shooting each other in the feet to notice the race is already over. MORONS.

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GiveOver 10 points a year ago

There's a lesson I learnt from playing team games: If your teammate makes a bad call that you disagree with, you should still follow them 100%. Going all-in on a questionable decision is almost always better than second guessing each other.

I think it applies here, and it's why right wingers and religions are so effective. They don't care if their arguments are flawed or their leader is a rapist, they're jumping into that fight every time.

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cerebralhawks 3 points a year ago

Not an online gamer, but I heard a similar sentiment from a boss about 20 years ago. He told me "if you make a mistake one time, I got your back, but we'll speak in private and I'll counsel you. Make the mistake again, I'll let my pen do the talking. Make it a third time, you're off the team."

It escalates quickly, but his management style helped us learn from the mistakes. Sometimes the second time happened. But everyone was willing to go to war with this guy. I mean, proverbially. This was also a guy who would bring his grill to work and cook for everyone one weekend a month. Companies that say you're family, big red flag. A boss who walks the walk as well as talks the talk? Huge green flag.

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joel 4 points a year ago

I agree with your sentiment, but calling people morons isn't going to win anybody over to your side

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Tempus_Fugit 8 points a year ago

I thought we all agreed virtue signaling was dumb?

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Noja 0 points a year ago

Yes I agree, doing absolutely nothing and getting fucked in the process is so much easier! /s Nobody expects this to do anything, it's about signaling to others that there are likeminded people who don't tolerate bullshit like "random corp bricks consumers devices" anymore.

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BussyGyatt 2 points a year ago

it’s about signaling to others

close the thread

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lukecooperatus 8 points a year ago

I'm from the USA and I have no idea what you're talking about. What's the context here, what is adopting a corporate marketing image as my profile picture supposed to accomplish?

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zaknenou 1 point a year ago

well, you gotta watch his video in the image if you're interested.

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joel 8 points a year ago

I would but I don't have a youtube account

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zaknenou 1 point a year ago

hhh chad

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KingPorkChop 6 points a year ago

I think Clippy is the wrong icon for this. Microsoft Bob would have been better and it predated Clippy by a few years.! .

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JackbyDev 12 points a year ago

It's not as recognizable though.

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zaknenou 3 points a year ago

actually I recognize this one more. I only know about clippy from retro computing videos, but I remember this dog and that sorcerer clearly when searching stuff (now that I mention it, Windows' search sucks nonetheless)

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masterspace 6 points a year ago

Louis sucks ass as a YouTuber. He likes to hear himself rant. That's literally his only quality.

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MacAnus 6 points a year ago

Liking to hear himself rant is not a quality in my book..

I don't like the way he speaks but he's all (I should say mostly, I don't watch all of his videos) about consumer rights which ...
How can you not like that?

Sure his delivery method is not for everyone but listen through his salt-coated style and you'll find he's brings up many important points.

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Rai 3 points a year ago

What, saying popular opinions out loud?!

I don’t like him

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nullpotential 1 point a year ago

He rants about some important stuff though.

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veniasilente 6 points a year ago

Have you changed you youtube pfp to clippy ?

I don't work here.

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xiwi 6 points a year ago

Je suis charlie

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probable_possum 6 points a year ago

clippy profile picture

So that I will get ads for office products?

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zaknenou 11 points a year ago

You guys are getting ads on the web ?!

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HouseWolf 5 points a year ago

Okay two things.

I didn't set my pfp to clippy mainly because I'm lazy and don't really comment on Youtube.

People complaining people are only doing this to follow a trend are completely right. BUT! some of those trend chasers might actually stop and think about the message, and might realized we're all being scammed by modern tech/software companies.

I ain't expecting some mass protest or anything, but it's at the very least a small handful more people giving a shit about their relationship with technology. As apposed to most who just throw their information and money at any sign-up page that asks.

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zaknenou 1 point a year ago

I ain’t expecting some mass protest or anything

It's hard to tell really, when even PewDiePie is making videos about DeGoogling and switching to foss and Linux. You know how influential he is among gen z (or gen Alpha, I'm not really sure).

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Mugmoor 5 points a year ago

I keep seeing this posted, but what the hell is a pfp?

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didnt1able 12 points a year ago

Pro file picture

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Mugmoor 17 points a year ago

Whatever happened to calling them avatars? First my PMs got turned into DMs, now this. I'm truly becoming old.

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NuXCOM_90Percent 13 points a year ago

PM->DM was a mix of making it more obvious that those were NOT private in the slightest and to better align with marketing ("send a Direct Message to the celebrity you are stalking!")

I am not sure when "pfp" took over but I've noticed over the past 3 or 4 months a LOT of random requests for a DM on discord of people asking where I got my pfp... which is literally a screenshot from a cartoon in the 00s. So I assume this is related to selling avatars to people on the game social networks?

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Saledovil 9 points a year ago

Language simply changes over time.

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Lyra_Lycan 7 points a year ago

I believe 'avatar' was generally changed to match Xbox and others using the term to describe full body digital expressions of the user, like the Xbox 360 avatars. I grew up knowing it as profile picture, but now I've changed my social messenger of choice to XMPP I'm seeing it referred to as an avatar again

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moosetwin 5 points a year ago

Louis should know better, and that makes me wonder about his intentions. I've supported him in the past but this just has me confused.

Edit: I'm not entirely sure this is malicious, but I think he knows that this goes against his own advice on how to start change, and is too stubborn to admit it.

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Lumidaub 4 points a year ago

Yep, not just there. I don't know if it's going to change anything fundamental but I agree with the sentiment and if nothing else, it's a statement of solidarity with other people who might feel like everybody around them is giving in to the slopshittification.

I don't know what being American or otherwise has to do with it btw.

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lvxferre 4 points a year ago

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weirdo_from_space 3 points a year ago

I didn't because I don't use my YouTube account anymore, I only logged in with PipePipe so that I can watch age restricted videos.

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BussyGyatt 2 points a year ago

Anyone remember blackout for gaza? It was performative then for a much more important cause with much more public support.

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Gsus4 2 points a year ago

From the same business geniuses that though that having you pay a fee to be allowed to pick a seat next to your other family members in an airplane was a good idea...

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Lyra_Lycan 2 points a year ago

In reference to the subject on Rossman's screenshot, that is an 8 year old scandal that was, AFAIK, never proven. What was proven, was an 11 year old report on emotional manipulation by then Facebook

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Tm12 4 points a year ago

This was surfaced in Sarah Wynn-Williams’ book.

The social media company likewise tracked when adolescent girls deleted selfies, "so it can serve a beauty ad to them at that moment," according to Wynn-Williams. Other examples of Facebook's ad lechery are said to include the targeting of young mothers based on their emotional state, as well as emotional indexes mapped to racial groups, like a "Hispanic and African American Feeling Fantastic Over-index."

Facebook Allegedly Detected When Teen Girls Deleted Selfies So It Could Serve Them Beauty Ads

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zaknenou 1 point a year ago

When it comes to things like: Facebook/Meta or Israel, every bad rumor tends to turn out to be true.

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tja 2 points a year ago

This is the first time I'm hearing about it. Why should I do it?

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zaknenou 2 points a year ago

in my understanding: to create a feeling of an angry coordinated crowd ready for the real action.

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richardmtanguay 1 point a year ago

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DieserTypMatthias 0 points a year ago

No, but I've set it to Nyan Cat.

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BlueBaggy -1 points a year ago

No, I don't wanna be associated with that guy.

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xeroxguts 5 points a year ago

I had never heard of him before. What's his deal?

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NauticalNoodle 3 points a year ago

Nothing stands out very far regarding the negatives. I could speculate to a few things, though. He's not a Socialist. When the going got tough for him and his business he uprooted and moved out of NYC to Texas. I can't really think of anything else objectionable. I actually like him, though so I may be biased.

For the positives, he's helped drive a lot of the Right to Repair legislation in this country as he's reported a lot of discussions he's had with real legislators. He runs a website for mac product repair as a reference that also operates as a non-profit. He runs a daytime business repairing mac products that employs several other people. Generally he posts a lot to keep people up to date increasingly as an electronics-oriented influencer, but he used to post mac repair videos almost exclusively and he talked about having to navigate Apple's influence on regulating the second-hand market. He has also given platform to a number of other mac & electronic repair people.

To me he seems to talk-the-talk and walk-the-walk when it comes to Right to Repair, but like I said, I might be biased.

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BlueBaggy 1 point a year ago

Overall what he promotes/fights for are good things. But in short what I don't like about him is:

he believes to be the morals authority
the standards he is advocating for don't apply to him (for example fighting for open source just to release an app which isn't open source)

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