Not stealing

10 months ago by ickplant to c/lemmyshitpost

BartyDeCanter 248 points 10 months ago

I’m so feeling this this morning. I asked the 4yo if he wanted cereal or yogurt for breakfast. He screams “I’m not hungry! I want mama!”, runs to his room and slams the door. Two minutes later he comes out and punches me in the dick while I’m making lunches.

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Dozzi92 103 points 10 months ago

I love hearing other parents have asshole kids, because it reminds me that I'm not alone.

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DJDarren 52 points 10 months ago

My kid went through the same phase all kids do of refusing to go to bed.

So one night he's grabbing on to the baby gate at the top of the stairs like a con in a prison movie, screaming and yelling. I'm at the bottom of the stairs trying to ignore him.

He fixed a stare directly at me, stopped screaming, and shit in his pants.

So yeah, 100% of parents have arsehole kids.

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absGeekNZ 32 points 10 months ago

You are not; but they are not really assholes. They are optimising for some outcome that they want, with inferior tools/mechanisms. Depending on age, their brain runs on emotion most of the time, logic is a distant second place.

In saying all of that....they can seem like assholes in the moment!!!!

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Dozzi92 20 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it's funny. Sometimes my son, 4, he'll talk to me, but his speech and communication are still in the very basics, and I'll say, Buddy, I'm sorry, I don't know what you're saying, and he'll get frustrated, which leads to anger, all because I don't understand what he's saying.

Turn the tables, I'm like, Dude, go to the bathroom, we're getting in the car, you go to the bathroom before we drive, and he'll say NO! And now I'm the one who's frustrated and angry because he's now the one who's not understanding what I'm saying.

As always, communication is key, and breakdowns always cause problems. And so we're all just along for the ride.

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absGeekNZ 13 points 10 months ago

Ah yes; the tactical wees discussion.

"Yes, I know you don't need to go right now; but we are going to be in the car for 30 - 40 minutes; go to the toilet now please!"

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blargh513 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah, no. They're assholes. Little ones, but still assholes.

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volvoxvsmarla 52 points 10 months ago

I mean, the dick punch was really unnecessary but I am glad that other families experience... Weirdness, I guess. And exclusion of a parent.

I can't count how often I read and heard the advice to "just present your kid with two options to choose from".

My kid, even before she became verbal, always wanted option C when presented with two options.

"Do you want this hat or this cap?" "Neither"

"Do you want this blue pants or these red sweatpants?" "I want... a green... dress" we don't even have a green dress.

"Shall we go to the zoo today or do you want to go to the playground with Anna?" "I want to go on the trampoline" .

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Clent 40 points 10 months ago

The problem with parenting advice is every kid is different. This becomes clear after raised a gaggle of them. Anyone with one child that is giving advice is clueless.

My suggestion is not to give that type of child options. Tell them what's happening. Then do it. May that not work any better and ignores why you may have started giving them choices.

You didn't specify an age but typically choices are best for later development. Toddlers are terrorists and one should never negotiate with a terrorist.

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BartyDeCanter 19 points 10 months ago

So true. I have two and they’re complete opposites. Every single thing that one is easy about the other is hard. I thought that the second would be easier because I learned some things from the first, but every lesson was useless.

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boonhet 4 points 10 months ago

To respond to your firat paragraph: This episode of Bluey helped me understand as a first time parent. Though this is less about personality and more about development. The mom with 9 or whatever kids really puts things into perspective.

It's funny because my own kid is literally Bluey. Super quick to do everything else, refuses to walk.

Your second and third paragraph: thank you for the advice, I'm anticipating that mine will become a terrorist. Already has learned to cry when told no, despite the fact that we've never caved in to it.

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volvoxvsmarla 4 points 10 months ago

I know this sounds very "duh" but I had an epiphany when I realized that the reason I hated advice and tips for parenting was that I didn't see my kid as a child, I saw her as a person. And just like I would be offended if my partner took some rando's advice on "women" to deal with me, I get subconsciously defensive when my daughter is treated like a kid that comes with a handbook. There are 5 ticks for this behavior in this age and one of them will work. Fuck that. It doesn't and it doesn't need to and it shouldn't be expected to. She's an individual, there is no manual for that.

She's turning 4 soon btw - and I love her to bits with her chaotic insanity. I feel as if it's not like she doesn't fit into a box or likes to think outside the box - she just dismantles the box, it is non-existent to her. She is actually very social, popular and follows rules well in kindergarten. Despite her answer to that theory of mind question about where the doll is being "there's multiple dolls" which spins into a Lynchian tale about parallel dolls

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Bluewing 3 points 10 months ago

Yep. My Wife and I raised 4 Daughters. Each one was their own type of terror and mayhem and need to be handled differently. No toddler needs to have a choice in anything. Their minds aren't ready for that. But by the time they hit 4 or 5, they can handle limited choices pretty well. And they only get better after that.

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bus_factor 17 points 10 months ago

I present two options. If my kid doesn't pick one of those two options, either by not responding or by requesting a third thing, I'm picking one of the two options for him. And I'm always picking what he's least likely to want.

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Gloomy 9 points 10 months ago

And I'm always picking what he's least likely to want.

So parents can be assholes too.

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bus_factor 11 points 10 months ago

I'm not a total asshole: After he's had his "oh shit" moment I give him one more chance to choose. He's usually a lot better at picking one of the two options on his second try.

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GreyEyedGhost 1 point 8 months ago

I had to do a variant of this with my now wife. She never wanted to pick restaurants, so I'd suggest something i was okay with but knew she hated. She got a lot more willing to give her opinions after a few years. Now we can discuss it like equals instead of me making the decision all the time.

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bus_factor 1 point 8 months ago

A friend of mine does that for group lunches. If everyone is humming and hawing about where to go, he'll suggest McDonald's. This reduces the threshold of making suggestions significantly for the others, because they no longer need to find a great place. They only need to come up with somewhere better than McDonald's.

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WanakaTree 17 points 10 months ago

Yeah the first time I tried the two options for clothes on my then-two year old, he snatched both options out of my hands, threw them on the ground, and screamed NO CLOTHES

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kossa 3 points 10 months ago

Bonus points for finally settling for one of the options, only to throw a tantrum afterwards, that the other option was the preferred one.

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jaggedrobotpubes 35 points 10 months ago

You know, this weirdly makes the whole shit world-state seem much more natural lol

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Empricorn 17 points 10 months ago

I am cracking up at this. Please save this comment word-for-word in a journal or something. Because when he's older and truly appreciates all you've done for him you're going to find it even funnier than I did to remind him of this!

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squaresinger 1 point 10 months ago

when he’s older and truly appreciates all you’ve done for him

Wishful thinking

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Empricorn 3 points 10 months ago

I'm optimistic! My parents weren't perfect, but I absolutely appreciate everything they did now, and have told them so.

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BarneyPiccolo 146 points 10 months ago

My wife was waiting for me by the exit of Target with my infant son, and a lady rushed up with her cart, a baby in the baby holder, said, "Here, watch him!" and ran in the rest room.

I walked up, and saw my wife with another baby, and said, "We can't afford two, we'll have to return one," and she told me the story. I thought it was hilarious, and couldn't wait to meet this woman when she came out of the bathroom.

She eventually emerged, and thanked my wife for the help, and I said "You weren't worried about handing your daughter off to a stranger?" And she replied:

"No, she already had one, I knew she wasn't about to steal ANOTHER one!"

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SpoonyBard 115 points 10 months ago

I don’t know why, but “stealing him” is such a funny way of saying that.

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theUwUhugger 35 points 10 months ago

How would you call dissapropriating someones children for recreational or other purposes?

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subterfuge 91 points 10 months ago

Kidnap?

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TheBat 65 points 10 months ago
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Empricorn 7 points 10 months ago

Kid no nap. Kidscream.

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Valmond 24 points 10 months ago

They are not supposed to scream during the process, it actually signals the end of it.

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subterfuge 15 points 10 months ago

You should probably file a complaint about the person in the meme with the league of professional kidnappers.

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binarytobis 5 points 10 months ago

Unless you are wearing a hi vis vest, I hear. Then they let you walk right on by.

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Lodespawn 2 points 10 months ago

Or the start, sometimes the middle ..

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surewhynotlem 3 points 10 months ago

It's funny because children aren't people. Or something...

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boonhet 17 points 10 months ago

It's just funny to use the word that means a different thing but close

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WR5 15 points 10 months ago

I'm not shoplifting this child.

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boonhet 8 points 10 months ago

Or alternatively,

I'm not kidnapping this money/these goods/etc

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ComradeMiao 59 points 10 months ago

My son fought me getting in the high chair in a restaurant yesterday. Wife had to hold him while I held his legs straight to get in. I feel that

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MigratingApe 13 points 10 months ago

How TF are they so strong!? I also noticed a difference in physical strength between boys and girls - while expected I did not anticipate it being so much different. I really have to use a muscle on my son sometimes and he’s not even 2 yo.

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Bgugi 36 points 10 months ago

Same for kids and pets... They're not really strong, it's just that:

  1. You're trying not to hurt them or yourself, they don't really care. This really levels the playing field.

  2. You're trying to accomplish a goal, they're trying to do anything but that.this gives them a huge advantage.

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agamemnonymous 3 points 10 months ago

Don't forget leverage. Shorter limbs get more "strength" from their muscles.

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lord_ryvan 1 point 9 months ago

You're right on with pets, had a lil' doggo that did NOT want his medicine, lil' pooch would eat around it in his food, squirm in six dimensions if you tried to force him, and yes one time he even used teeth!
Needless to say I was, in fact, not using teeth.

Our current doggo tho, eats her food with or without medicine. One time we forgot to give her her pill when she was on medication for something, I just told her it was a biscuit and she ate it, no questions asked. This is a blessing.

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ater 58 points 10 months ago

This very much could have been my husband about a decade ago. The last tantrum my middle child ever threw, with lots of screaming and running and destroying things like a fucking tornado in the middle of a Target. Spouse carried them kicking and screaming out to the car while I finished checking out and by the time I got there they were buckled in their car seat, completely calm and composed, like a switch flipped. (As far as I know) it wasn't any sort of punishment or shining moment of parenting, the kid just decided, I'm done now.

And they haven't thrown a fit since.

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MummysLittleBloodSlut 8 points 10 months ago

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BastingChemina 7 points 10 months ago

How old was your kid at the time ? You are giving us hope, we need to know!

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Clanket 21 points 10 months ago

29 😅

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ater 11 points 10 months ago

They had just turned 4. I remember being really worried because they were starting preschool soon and they were such a demon, I was certain I'd be called on the first day and told they'd been expelled. Now they're in middle school and charming as anything.

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UnderpantsWeevil 52 points 10 months ago

I've been reading some variation of this joke since the early 80s.

I am confident it can be found somewhere in Shakespeare's plays and perhaps on clay tablets hidden deep in the Mesopotamian valley.

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makyo 50 points 10 months ago

... but if you were to call the cops on me at least it would be a brief yet welcome reprieve from parenting while they come to the inevitable conclusion that he is mine and they don't want him around either

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But_my_mom_says_im_cool 48 points 10 months ago

My first kid was a perfect baby, she’d sleep 10 hours straight, she was quiet and never bratty, we would take her to restaurants with all our adult friends and she was always well behaved and didn’t need a tablet and would interact with everyone. We used to silently judge leash kid’s parents with the wife.

Then we had our second, an autistic boy with the energy of a thousand suns. Now I know, the leash isnt for me, it’s for all of you! The tablet at the restaurant makes sense now, and I don’t judge parents anymore

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echodot 13 points 10 months ago

When me and my brother were coming up there were no tablets. The only thing to distract kids back then was McDonald's colouring books.

Imagine my parents relief when the game boy was invented.

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Trainguyrom 6 points 10 months ago

My first kid was a perfect baby, she’d sleep 10 hours straight, she was quiet and never bratty...Then we had our second, an autistic boy with the energy of a thousand suns.

My experience has been similar, except they absolutely rile eachother up, and when separated they're both incredible quiet and chill. One of their grandparents refuses to take my youngest overnight but begs for sleepovers regularly with my oldest. We try to make it special for my youngest by doing stuff we don't normally do on those nights (and we try to arrange outings with just the youngest too to make it as fair as we can), but it is really shocking just how quiet and reserved both are without the other to encourage them to cause chaos

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But_my_mom_says_im_cool 3 points 10 months ago

Luckily my first has 11 years on her brother and helps out a lot with him

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squaresinger 2 points 10 months ago

Starting all over with child proofing and sleepless nights after 11 years... wow. Seriously, respect for pulling it off.

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 6 points 10 months ago

We have a nephew who didn't need a leash, but he had the cutest backpack what was a monkey and the tail was a leash that he loved wearing. He just turned 19.

His younger brother did not like the monkey, and he needed a leash. He was a runner. Still is, his mile is right around 6 minutes.

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yermaw 2 points 10 months ago

I get people giving me judgemental looks with the tablet at the dinner table when out in the wild. Im always tempted to take it off her when people look at me funny, they can see what happens.

Low volume blippi is annoying as shit, I get it, but also so is me running past your table every 30 seconds carrying her back, or the full-blown mortal screaming if I strap her to the chair.

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Modern_medicine_isnt 47 points 10 months ago

There is a reason for declining child birth numbers... it has everything to do with more people knowing what they are really getting into.

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MotoAsh 42 points 10 months ago
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Pacattack57 27 points 10 months ago

There are people giving 100% of their paychecks for childcare and the spouse pays for everything else.

That is a failure of the US and birth rates won’t improve until that changes.

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outhouseperilous 11 points 10 months ago

won't improve

Nothing wrong with current birth rates, just the reasons for them.

I think you meant

won't increase

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Pacattack57 4 points 10 months ago

Low birth rates deplete the work force in the long term. Creates issues where tax revenue is low and cost of social programs and healthcare are extremely high because there are so many people at retirement age and beyond. Birth rates at a minimum should be stagnant.

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Bluewing 1 point 10 months ago

Being poor has very little to with having children. The poor across the world have more children than the wealthy.

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MotoAsh 1 point 10 months ago
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bunchberry 16 points 10 months ago

Well if there was public daycare to take the stress off of parents who couldn't deal with it then it wouldn't be as big of an issue.

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grindemup 2 points 10 months ago

I don't really follow your train of thought. People would have been just as aware (if not more, due to the prevalence of multigenerational households) of this in the past as they are now, no?

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Modern_medicine_isnt 5 points 10 months ago

In the past people didn't have access to a device with endless information about how rough it is the raise kids. Instead they had other local parents as a source, and those parents just wanted company in thier misery.

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echodot 3 points 10 months ago

When I was a kid we used to just get thrown outside along with all the other kids and told not to come back until lunch time.

We used to get up to all sorts no one cared. At one point someone's dad took us all to the beach which was about an hour away, we all just got in this strangers car (never met him before) and went to the beach. I don't remember my parents been even remotely bothered by that when they found out.

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Modern_medicine_isnt 1 point 10 months ago

There definitely was a "they are replaceable" attitude back then. Now try to imagine the generations before us, when 13 kids wasn't that abnormal. And that 13 only counted the ones that survived.

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah we had to raise our siblings. Ain't raising another generation without being paid for it. It's why we work in education.

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garbagebagel 2 points 10 months ago

I don't need more reasons to not want children, I'm already decided, but this thread is sure reaffirming.

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LogicalDrivel 37 points 10 months ago

This thread has reminded me of why I don't want kids.

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darkreader2636 36 points 10 months ago

Well most of times you can differentiate frustration screaming and fear/danger screaming on toddlers

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Kolanaki 42 points 10 months ago

I can't even differentiate the screams of play time from those of being brutally murdered that the kids I hear playing around my apartment complex make...

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TomArrr 15 points 10 months ago

The screams of playtime are usually the ones punctuated by an adult yelling at them to shut up.

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trublu 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, the other kind tends to shut itself up pretty quick.

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echodot 7 points 10 months ago

How many brutal murders of kids have you been ignoring?

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Kolanaki 6 points 10 months ago

As many as I can. Thankfully, I don't live near a school (I'm American).

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Karjalan 7 points 10 months ago

Same, and I have kids, so I, technically, should be able to differentiate.

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squaresinger 3 points 10 months ago

Tbh, definitely not with all kids. You have to specifically train them to not use "emergency" screams when they are frustrated.

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 36 points 10 months ago

So this one time I was like three and being too quiet. I don't remember this. Apparently I had climbed up the upright grand piano and gotten scared of heights. I pressed myself against the wall and was whispering "^help^" over and over. Not too loud, because I was worried I'd get in trouble for climbing on the piano, but I needed help.

I was a high energy child. I learned to stop my bicycle at first by jumping off it onto grass hopefully and letting the bike crash. It must have been a nightmare for my parents to watch. So any extended silence was suspicious.

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agamemnonymous 35 points 10 months ago

Kinda reminds me of when I was using dating apps, and women would ask how they knew I wasn't a serial killer. "If I was a serial killer, it would be pretty stupid to leave a bunch of digital records of me being the last person my victim talked to, I'd get caught immediately."

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Modern_medicine_isnt 33 points 10 months ago

My son(11) will say, "you can't do that, I'll call the police and they will arrest you". I say, great maybe I'll get some peace and quiet. He doesn't know I won't, so it works. Lol.

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pyre 13 points 10 months ago

I think it's time. you gotta sacrifice the strategy because 11 is old enough to know acab

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Modern_medicine_isnt 3 points 10 months ago

He's autistic, and that concept is not something he could grasp yet.

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kossa 3 points 10 months ago

My 4yo always threatens "I won't invite you to my birthday party!" I always respond with "Yes, thank you, please don't." Which is confusing, because apparently it is the go-to threat in daycare to force ohther children to do something 😅. Then I am immediately invited again.

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Modern_medicine_isnt 2 points 10 months ago

I have been told I have to go to my room and stay there. I'm like, you promise? Didn't take long for that threat to stop.

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steeznson 19 points 10 months ago

200 IQ child thief

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Aaron_Davis 15 points 10 months ago

That is a pretty funny remark.

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vga 14 points 10 months ago
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boonhet 8 points 10 months ago

One of my worst fears as a single dad, though it's fairly uncommon here to randomly report people for kidnapping just because it's a dad with his own child. And my offspring adores me and will stop crying almost immediately when picked up so that might help people understand I'm not a baby thief lol

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Benchamoneh 6 points 10 months ago

Can relate

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Formfiller 3 points 10 months ago

Just wait until he’s 16 lol

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black_flag -9 points 10 months ago

I don't think the apple falls very far from the tree

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CallMeAnAI 14 points 10 months ago

Found the childless one who knows better. Always at least one of you.

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rumba -8 points 10 months ago

Hard to tell from so little info. You can make a kid act like that by being a shitty parent, but they can also have issues unbidden that stretch you past your breaking point.

In any case, they don't seem to have a healthy relationship.

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Windex007 26 points 10 months ago

10:1 odds that neither of you currently have a toddler.

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CallMeAnAI 6 points 10 months ago

Nah, that's a fools bet lol.

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toynbee 5 points 10 months ago

Sounds like you're an AI.

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rumba 5 points 10 months ago

I've had two, go fish.

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Windex007 11 points 10 months ago

had

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Nefara 20 points 10 months ago

My kid just had a screaming fit with big fat tears rolling down his face because he reached the bottom of the stairs. The other day, he was howling crying because I had a different colored bowl than he did. I have indeed had to carry my kid out of a public space to go calm down. I do my best to be calm and empathetic to him but emotional regulation is something they grow into.

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rumba -12 points 10 months ago

That's the best you can do. Upset is normal. Throwing things is normal.

Kicking, punching and violence to the point where you have to make excuses that you're not kidnapping isn't.

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5too 19 points 10 months ago

I think that really depends on the kid too. I've had one behave like that fairly regularly until he grew out of it; the other will get upset rarely, and never in public.

The post read to me as the dad cracking a dry joke, not actually making an excuse.

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