YSK that if US housing and population projections hold, the Electoral College map will change after the 2030 census.
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1000% true. Makes it so much easier for unpopular, minority ideas to make a much bigger impact because it limits voting power of the majority. Without the current arbitrary limit, you'd set the number of congressmen each state gets by the least populous state divided by 3 (since each state gets 2 senators and at least 1 representative). That state is Wyoming and they have just under 600,000 people. With 1 congressman per 200,000 people, California alone would have 196 representatives and 2 senators.
The best option is to rewrite the constitution and put some population restrictions on state representation in Congress (because why does a state with less people in it that the unrepresented city of Washington DC have 3 congressmen?!). But as that seems very far away, the best thing that would be done is to get rid of the cap on representatives and let all Americans have an equal (representative) vote in Congress.
Plus with 1,555 representatives (plus 100 senators) we can loosen the two party stranglehold on this country.
As a leftie who moved to one of those red states, please come help. We can flood these places with enough people to tip them, we just need to stop with fatalistic bullshit about how these states are "beyond all hope." No they're fucking not. Get out of your comfort zone, do your duty to our democracy, and ffs stop self sorting into deep blue states. Staying where it's blue is easy but it doesn't do much good.
Lol I know, I know. I'm not a decade in yet, but it's been a good half decade and it's definitely... an experience.
Of those in red states during presidental elections, they are around 25-35% of voters that voted for a Democrat president. And there's a big untouched potential with nonvoters who aren't convinced by either political party. There's no reason to give up on any state
YSK Bush was last in office in 2009. he instituted changes in government that have allowed and even empowered the fascist takeover.
2009 was 16 years ago. there are still 8 more years behind his last day where plenty of Americans are now voting age.
a surprising amount of millennials and genz voters are trump supporters.
You need people to move into the countryside, ideally where they aren't selling land or building houses, and there's no jobs. Plus it may well be an environment that will gerrymander the hell out of any such transplants if they happen to clump up.
I'm not saying it's a bad plan, but it's a hail-mary pass at best, and you need a lot of people to do this. Consider what the Libertarians tried with New Hampshire a while back: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project
That's true, although there are a good number of purple metro areas in red states. That's where I moved and it's maybe not as effective as moving to the middle of nowhere, but it's a hell of a lot better than casting another blue vote in the deep blue area I was raised in.
Something missing from the displayed data, not sure if the article goes into it (not going through NYT paywall bullshit to find out) but Idaho, Utah and Texas will very likely gain a blue voting electoral college vote. If, after this Trump bullshit concludes (providing it concludes), we don't have a major overhaul of how elections work including a change to first past the post, we kind of deserve fascism or all out civil war.
You're right, we've got several states, mostly Republican leaning, that are winner take all. But these extra blue seats could potentially allow for an entire state swing in some states as yaroto98 pointed out. If it doesn't do that, what it will do is piss enough people off because they're not represented to get the groundswell needed to force changes.
Only 2 states have proportional EC votes (Maine and Nebraska). So we'd have to get Democratic candidates winning the statewide vote.
A lot of the people moving to red states from blue are actually conservatives who want to live somewhere with Republican governments. In 2018 Beto won with native Texans but Republican-voting transplants tipped it for Cruz. I think we already have the overall population demographics to flip, if we could just get enough people to actually come out and vote.
Thank you for pointing out the issues with fptp - so many people don't understand just how big of an issue it really is. We will never see the change we want (or honestly any real change at all) without abandoning it. Not to diminish your other valid points, I just have a particular passion about that one.
Yep, most of the people leaving those blue states are leaving due to high cost of living and going to cheaper states. The HCOL means they're likely from metropolitan areas, meaning they're likely democrat voters. Very few of them are going to rural areas, they're going to cities in the cheaper states. This will have a bigger impact on presidential elections than congress, due to gerrymandered maps. It might be enough to flip these states as they're all-or-nothing states.
They are in for a shock if they come to Texas thinking is cheaper. The property taxes and insurance on houses is crazy here and can be counted on to increase at 10% per year. I went back and looked at my homeowners policy from 2016 vs 2025 and I started out paying $1600 per year and just paid $4800 for worse coverage this year. No claims or anything, I don't live near the coast, not in a flood zone, not in a forest, no history of damaging hail, roof was replaced in 2016.
Also having no state income tax doesn't mean you take more home, it means companies adjust the salary so you basically take home the same or even less. Sales tax is also high, about the same as NYC and SF.
This will have a bigger impact on presidential elections than congress, due to gerrymandered maps. It might be enough to flip these states as they’re all-or-nothing states.
great, so more "I'm a blue president, but yikes, we don't has congress :( pwease vote in midterms for us to deliver our promises" presidents.
Yep! Always expect more excuses from the govt. Just like your boss telling you the economy is bad so they can't give you a raise despite pulling in record profits, you really can't get a raise because they answer to investors not you. The govt answers to donors not voters. So any excuse to not do something for you will be used. Regardless of the political pins they wear.
Like there'll be elections in 2032
or when the president wants it to it seems
No, Trump ratfucked the last census in Dem states to undercount the population on purpose. Source: I lived through it. There were some headlines when it happened, but the fuckery wasn’t discussed that much since everyone was dying of COVID. He just outright fired census workers before they could finish counting people in their assigned areas.
Just because a state has historically voted a particular way does not mean new people to the state will vote that way.
See white flight and pandemic relocation
Yeah I just so want to see red state americans to wake up and see a massive flip in the midterms in their strongholds. Yes. I know. I fantasize a lot.
I dream about democracy.
You know, abolition of slavery, electoral college, and first past the post voting.
Wow. You do dream big.
Bold of you to assume the Electoral College will still exist in 2030, or even 2028.
that's the point of the census
Man, some wild shit is going to happen before 2032. All of this is one scenario, yes, maybe, but this stuff is like weather forecasting on the Titanic at this point.
If it doesn't get abolished, I don't care.
It is funny that in Piefed this topic is classified under "Chilling"
No, this would almost certainly be a symptom of the Republic functioning more or less correctly. I'll get to what that means in a moment.
Each state gets exactly two senators and at least one congressman. If the state has a large population, it gets more congressmen, which is why, say, Virginia has more congressmen than Wyoming does despite Wyoming being physically larger. Nobody lives in Wyoming.
Well, what if a large number of people move out of Virginia and move into Wyoming? Why should the state of Virginia keep representatives for people it no longer has? This is a major reason we do a census every ten years.
There is some rot to be removed here: The number of representatives was capped, so instead of "count your population, divide by 100,000 and send that many representatives) or whatever, there's this weird algorithm where "everyone gets one, and then we rank the states by how many people are represented per congressman. The one with the biggest people to congressman ratio is issued another congressman, until they've all been distributed." Which still makes it kinda goofy.
What kind of Roman numerals are R, N, and Y?
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The cap on HoR seats is possibly one of the worst things that have ever happened in american democracy.
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