Correction: They think they do.
Trump grifts everyone including his most loyal loyalists
he said they were the easiest grift from.
Remember that time when the Trump campaign accounted for like 5% of ALL credit card fraud claims in the USA, for charging his supporters a monthly campaign donation when they thought they were doing a one-time donation?
allegedly ice is getting the loan forgiveness, but you have to be in it so long , i doub they are actually following through with it. i highly suspect those who are employed by ice will be immediately rejected by employers when shit hits the fan and they are all let go one way or another.
I mean, it's literally been happening for years... I think they are going to try to do away with it entirely, but I think it's relatively difficult for them to do at the moment. Though I guess this tactic of excluding agencies and organizations that go against the "administration's interests " or whatever, might work if they keep expanding it..
But for the moment, it's literally still happening right now, and people are having their loans irrevocably forgiven.
Yeah, okay it’s bad and we 100% knew they were going to do things like this but Harris could have been interpreted to be transphobic, so. That’s why we had to have this, apparently.
I mean, for being dead wrong that’s decent snark.
Replacing First-past-the-post voting will allow 3rd parties to exist without a spoiler effect.
Any chance you can explain why supposed democracy advocates in the democratic party refuse to pass electoral reform in blue states? (All while wailing and moaning about 3rd parties and the spoiler effect every election)
Electoral Reform Videos
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems
The only advocates in office that support ranked choice are in the Democratic party.
Because unlike the GQP it is not a monolithic entity.
Don't forget thst Harris also wouldn't give a stromg stance on a war that has been going on forever on thenotjer side of the planet between two terrible groups of people.
I...wanted to upvote this because this was once my position, but through better understanding I've come to the opinion that this is basically Trump's "very fine people...on both sides" comment, but to Palestinians.
Another immature, sniveling shit-bird that would rather weaken and divide the left than move on like an adult.
Weaken and divide the left like screaming Harris supports genocide?
Sure, sure. Whatever you gotta tell yourself. As if it’s not going to happen again in less than one year. We’ll see how you strengthen and support the left then.
Weaken and divide the left like screaming Harris supports genocide?
Ah, so not only should they have voted for Harris, they should have been silent about the administration's support of genocide. Even now, in retrospect, as everyone agrees that the genocide is a fact.
Clearly, someone so morally bankrupt as to feel the need to communicate their disgust at their candidate over such an insignificant issue as genocide should be subjected to, at every opportunity, public shaming, derision, and mocking.
It's more important than they should feel ashamed now that their taking a stand over genocide had its own, worse consequences. I'm sure that, instead of putting them on the defensive and pushing them away, it will ensure they feel warm and fuzzy feelings for they next milquetoast candidate that refuses to take a stand on genocide. They'll vote for them now, for sure.
Also, I love how everyone assumes I'm defending myself when I give people shit for being unable to move on. These people aren't idiots. These people feel betrayed and hopeless. Explaining the way the game works is infinitely more productive than blame and derision.
Explaining the way the game works
"Vote for me or else"
The words of an abusive spouse essentially.
Explaining the way the game works is infinitely more productive than blame and derision.
The way the game works is the person with the most electoral college votes wins the presidency and the party that controls Congress controls the country.
You want to pretend this was some grand gesture against one particular genocide, go ahead. It wasn’t, except in some people’s minds. The stakes were obviously descent into a fascist state or not and they couldn’t be arsed to even vote. These people are idiots.
Sure, let's blame the voters for the absolute shitshow of the Democrats accidentally putting up yet another candidate with little appeal to voters.
I voted against Trump all three times voting for candidates I didn't think deserved to be the nominee, let alone president. I'm sick to my fucking stomach of being force fed awful corporate Democrats and given zero choice to vote my actual conscience. So with all due respect - which is none - this sentiment can go fuck itself. I did my part, now you fucking do yours and stop blaming others for the failures of your group.
The voters are absolutely to blame! They voted against their most basic interested and voted for the guy that satisfied their immediate made up anger. Why vote for trump if you barely survine on food stamps but hate the gays? Because somehow hating the gays was more important. Why vite for trump if you are part of a minority group and aren't quite well documented to live in us? Because you drank the flavour water that it will be trump who will make your life even more amazing. Not the fact that living and working there is what made your life better.
Voters are absolutely to blame! Stuck to your phones in this algorithmic shitstorm you got fed the story that you being poor is not because of people like trump but because your gay black Latino neighbor somehow seems to have a less shitier life than you. Because you, the American voter, must wake up! You live in a shit system (your country is amazing and I wish I will be able to visit it again some day) that doesn't exist anywhere else around the world. Your so called freedom to not care about most common sense rules of a modern society are not worth the struggle you live every day in the best of times. You need free healthcare, you need safe and free education for your children, you need protection against harmful working condition and much much more.
I really hope that you will still get a chance to vote these fuckers out and you will have woken up by then. Take this from someone living in a country that has been under the communist boot for more than 40 years!
You don't even live here? We get enough of this shit from people here, don't need it from you too. The Democratic Party is to blame for their own failures. They know how to win elections and refuse to do so because they don't really care. Don't blame the voters for not being inspired to vote for the shittiest alternative when they know there were better options that we never had a say in. Kamala was not actually nominated by the people, and the Democratic Party has been spreading the kind of bullshit propaganda you're touting to blame the people they've been disenfranchising for years.
We got four years of Democratic control and nothing of substance was done to prevent any of this. This is a lot more nuanced than one single election, and your comment is literally what bad faith actors write to stir conflict on the left because it mimics the actual disenfranchisement of the left. So if you truly care like you say you do, stop spreading Democratic Party propaganda.
Oh they are absolutely to blame! You had to vote between one guy who told you exactly what he will do and a chick who did not say the words you wanted to hear but was not going to touch what you barely had. Of course you go with the guy!
You think you are unique ? Other countries have this too. Shit we had the same a while ago. One guy wanted to take us out of eu and NATO and throw us back to Russian hands and the other guy. We voted for the other guy! We want eu and NATO and all the rest. We had Russia before and no more. Who cares we didn't really liked the guy.
When was the last time your people voted to nominate someone and not have someone shoved down your throat? This time was no different .
Bro, your whole demeanor here is why the world thinks we deserve this. You're fucking here, blaming Democrats for what republicans are doing. That's fucking stupid. Americans failed an open book test to stop retarded Hitler. Americans largely deserve the derision, even the leftists and progressives that were trying to stop this. That includes me, and it includes you too. Propaganda ain't an excuse. I'm dumb as fuck and still wasn't manipulated by it, because all it takes to see through is the barest cunt-hair of intellectual curiosity which the overwhelming majority of us Americans fundamentally lack.
Imagine admitting you can't tell the difference between corporate Democratics and literal nazi republicans. Embarrassing and sad.
When did I say that? I voted for one of those two over the other. My comment was clear about that.
The Dems.coukd have run a literal fucking corpse and should have won against the actual fucking Nazis. But the people of the US have shown theybare too fucking stupid to know that literally would have been better than this shitshow. Again, after seeing it on parade for 4 years before.
No they COULDN'T HAVE because they DID run a shit candidate and they DID lose. At some point you have to realize the reality of the situation we are in. Half the population is dumber than rocks and the other half is not much better and it's no one's fault but the dumber than rocks. But keep blaming people who are on your own side I'm SURE that will work out GREAT for you in the long run.
Wanna know why youre so desperate to pin this on voters?
Because deep down you know the donors wont allow the democratic party to change, so you feel the voters should just accept whatever they are given.
Think there will be a primary next time? Or is asking for a primary a purity test to far?
“Voted against trump all three times”
So you voted for what? The guy who got 3% of the vote? Let’s not pretend that any vote not for a democratic candidate isn’t a wasted vote. The last person to win from neither major party was back in 1848.. so if you voted for a libertarian or the Green Party or whatever other hopeless party then you are just as bad as a trump voter. Democrats aren’t perfect, far from it, but if you didn’t want Trump to win, you would vote Democrat, period. They’re the only ones who have a legitimate shot at winning against Trump, or any republican really. Sadly that’s what politics is in this country, you don’t vote for the best person for the job. You vote to keep tyrannical psychopaths out of office.
They say "for candidates I didn’t think deserved to be the nominee, let alone president" so I suspect they voted for the Democrat, in each election, rather than a third-party (considering their distaste for Democrats).
I realize that, but their wording leaves it open to interpretation like maybe they didn’t vote democrat at all. In which case nothing they say is valid imo.
I voted for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris. Did I pass your test to be allowed to have an opinion?
Yes consider this reply as your legal documentation that you are a holder of the 1st amendment.
You are aggressively belligerent all over this thread my guy.
Sometimes I wonder what happened to the Gays for Trump crowd. I hope some have changed course. But the ones I’ve been able to look in on seem to be caught in the denial step.
I was a high profile gay because I came out in school and they nearly killed me. Won the Mathew Shepard scholarship. Somehow since then my mom has drifted so rightward, she's supporting these assholes now. She told me she's a "member of the log cabin republicans" which is when I told her she's no longer welcome in queer spaces, and cut her off.
She used to be pro-choice. When Roe fell, she said "maybe that's a good thing." I'm 100% sure she'll say the same when Obergefell goes. Maybe Lawrence too. Walking back her rights, her son's rights is OK as long as brown people are getting hurt.
On X, they’re all just saying this is happening because of trans people.
They probably just blame trans people...
or trans people for trump, they blame it on non-republican trans of course.
The activist Rain Dove has been able to distribute aid directly to Palestinian refugees while presenting as openly queer, and did not have a negative experience. Yes there is significant stigma and suppression in that part of the world —but this is not unique to the Middle East. LGBT folks are unfortunately familiar with a certain degree of hatred against them, regardless of where they live. What matters, the common theme, is that they recognize mutual dehumanization, and have empathy and a desire to change that.
87% of aid given by Israel before the ceasefire was intercepted/stolen before it reached the distribution point. UN monitored and updated the figures on their web site daily.
UN refused to allow the IDF to deliver it because that would be politicizing aid apparently.
Seems odd that this gay person managed to deliver anything or was even allowed into Gaza.
Yup, this Rain Dove has been caught out lying in social media a few times...
I said this creator was giving aid to refugees. From, not in.
I need a trumper to explain to me how this isn’t discriminatory. Explain to me like I’m as mentally challenged as your average maga cultist.
I admittedly stalk the r/conservative and r/republican subreddits.
1% is like "let's not do what the democrats were trying to do to us.. we're better!", 60% is like "yeah take that. Now you know what it feels like!". The rest just post "Thank you President Trump!"
Likely they'll say it's to "pay back for DEI".
So, affirmative action for the straights, guess MAGA no longer thinks AA is discriminatory lol
"Rules for thee, but not for me" is literally the foundation of conservatism.
i mean, they literally use DEI as an argument for cutting this stuff… they say that LGBTQ orgs are discriminating against heterosexuals, and that support orgs for specific racial issues are discriminatory against whites
so it’s equally the devil and also the weapon they’re using
It is discriminatory. And that's how Trumpers like it. The greatness the MAGA movement wants to return the country to is Jim Crow, segregation, child labor, etc.
They want you back in the mines with no PPE or health plan. You are expected to work until you're no longer useful, and then immediately die.
It is discriminatory, and that's the point. He wants to see if he can get away with this, and when he does (because we all know SCOTUS will give him their blessing), he'll move on to people who have the "wrong" choice of religious preference, the "wrong" political beliefs, and the "wrong" immutable characteristics.
It's all moving toward prohibiting gay and interracial marriage. That's the ultimate goal. You are only allowed to fuck who they allow you to fuck.
"It's not discriminatory, you're discriminatory."
Unassailable logic.
Once you get to the SC they'll just roll ever for Trump
Kiss civil rights goodbye we’re in the turd Reich now
Yeah, they're protecting us from that class of gays. Say thank you.
Working for an organization is not a protected class. It's not LGBTQ+ people, it's people who work for those organizations, and more specifically it seems ones that work to medically transition children.
Working for an organization is not a protected class. It's not LGBTQ+ people, it's people who work for those organizations
targeting support organisations is targeting that protected class
medically transition children
sounds a whole lot like the language that trump etc used here:
child abuse, including the chemical and surgical castration or mutilation of children or the trafficking of children to so-called transgender sanctuary States for purposes of emancipation from their lawful parents, in violation of applicable law.
which is absolute shit… surgical intervention is the last in a very long list of steps that is only really offered to adults
first up is simply counselling and psychological support to rule out temporary issues that could be clouding their judgement
then puberty blockers (which are entirely reversible: if you stop them, you go through puberty as normal)
then gender-affirming hormones
THEN surgery, in adulthood
these things all add up very slowly from completely reversible options over many years
Surgery for minors has happened but only for a handful of children of wealthy families.
There was a 17 year old couple I read about pre pandemic that both had gotten surgery, they were boyfriend and girlfriend, both trans, and they were interviewed at their family lake house.
Navigating that level healthcare access is a privilege.
Navigating that level healthcare access is a privilege.
absolutely!
and it’s so rare that i would argue it’s not even a little bit of a problem
like, afaik you have to convince psychologists to sign off on things… pay enough and you can find a medical practitioner to sign off on anything: bogus religious exemptions to vaccines, adhd diagnosis so you can get amphetamines, opioids, …
I've always found it creepy that job descriptions ask you to mention irrelevant details on job application pages like this
It's a double edged sword, what is supposed to help you can also be used to hurt you. Remember the Nazis used census data to find Jewish people
Registration lists arent cool anymore?
There's a reason I've always lied or decline to state :D
I decline as well but so many applications these days force you to answer these questions
I've always wondered what happens if you lie. Why couldn't I be a bisexual handicapped inuit?
I am a gazorpazorpian and I don't think that people should lie about their identity. If someone claimed to be from Gazorpazorp without actually being from there, I would be very irritated with that.
It's supposed to be anonymous. You would never know who put Gazorpazorp into a particular company's statistics.
If he wants to fuck gay people so bad he could just ask nicely
Bingo.
It's the permission and forgiveness thing. I can't remember the exact wording exactly but it goes something like:
why ask for permission when you can just say "fuck your forgiveness, I'm going to rape you anyways. And no fucker will stop me because they are alla bunch of fucking cowards!" Again, I'm unsure of the wording but this is basically what the orange child rapist has been doing things for decades now.
You just won the Internet for that comment
How would they prove a person's sexual preference?
Donald Trump’s Education Department (ED) released a new rule to deny student loan forgiveness to people who work for LGBTQ+ organizations.
It is based on the nonprofit they work for, not their gender expression/sexuality. So, basically the administration can just decide if he doesn't like the organization you work for, you're screwed. Obviously wrong and messed up.
BTW that is the first sentence of the article. Seems like the people replying to you didn't read it either.
My bad. Thanks for clearing that up.
I skim frequently.
that is the first sentence of the article
It's in the goddamn title, you don't even need to click into the article yet we've still got multiple people in here who seem to have only read "Trump.. exclude.. LGBTQ+.. workers"
Well, the whole gop look and vibe like a bunch of cock suckers so that can’t be true.
IDK man, I've sucked a lot of dick and I like to at least think I don't look like a loose pile of skin draped over a human-shaped void in the moral fabric of the universe like those fuckers do...
#brandnewsentence
That is very concerning.
Lol, if the ICE facial recognition app is word over a birth certificate then they definitely won't care about a marriage certificate
Republicans don't even speak English anymore. They speak ragebait. Congratulations if you managed to get through that entire first quote without clicking away.
"You're gay, you don't get loan forgiveness."
"I'm not gay."
"Prove it."
"Prove it? How?"
"Doesn't matter, everybody's gay, nobody gets loan forgiveness."
As I read the headline, it's sounds like they are removing LGBTQ organization from the list of places you can work to get loan forgiveness...
So they wont deny your loan forgiveness if you are gay, just if you work for a place that has a mission to help gay people.
Still fucking disgusting, because I would bet that there are christian organizations that still get forgiveness.
This seems pretty on brand. Is this surprising anyone?
Nope, hateful, but not surprising.
Moments like this are why people like me who are educated either want to leave the US or exit out of society entirely.
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I hope EVERYONE knows they won't be getting ANY loan forgiveness. The whole work in civil service and get forgiveness is a myth and won't be happening.
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