Just a paper bag now. At this point they’re gonna bring back the supersize but it’ll just be a large lol
Just a paper bag now. At this point they’re gonna bring back the supersize but it’ll just be a large lol
You can get a burger and fries (or a bunch of other things) at many of bar and grill type places around here for less than mcdonalds. Several of the ones near me will do carry out if you want to call ahead and put an order in too. Hell, I got a steak dinner for like 15$ a few weeks ago.
I've eaten there three times in five years. Each time was due to a social situation. Overpriced and nasty is how I rate them.
I actually miss mcdonalds here in Japan because it's actually pretty tasty and did pretty fun collabs with IPs my kids and I like (except the pokemon and chiikawa ones, those were just stupid and irresponsible). Haven't had it in a year or so to keep my elbows up and support my Canadian brothers and sisters.
Now, I just go to MOS burger or just make my own. Unfortunately, the independent ones are a bit too pricey for my food budget.
Other countries with standards held out a lot longer. Still, it’s a megacorp that prioritizes profit above all else.
Did McDonalds leave Japan in the last few months? I was there last year and McDonalds was nice because free wifi and some locations are open 24/7, not the worst place to get work done during US business hours.
Wife doesn't like burgers, had never been to Steak n Shake. (Must be a Filipino thing because she cant' cook 'em either.)
First bite, "This is the burger I have been looking for!" She loved the seasoning so much she bought 2 bottles, $5 each.
Forget what we paid, but it was on par with McDonalds, including the $5 tip. The restaurant itself and waitress kinda sucked, "Do you have coffee?" "We're out." So make some? This is a restaurant. Something else basic was out, I forget. But the point stands, a proper sit-down meal was the same cost as McDonalds, except delicious.
And don't start me on local Mexican dives and trucks. I can get 3 deluxe street tacos for $10, less than some of the gross combos at McDonalds. And that place is a little high!
...is Steak n Shake considered a proper sit-down meal? Thats still fast food. Most of them have drive-thru's.
Yeah, weird in-between dining model. Still beats McDonald's inside where they have purposefully run off dining customers in favor of drive thru.
Still, way better food, brought to you and cleaned up, same price.
I'm so glad that so many fast food chains are disappearing in my city. There's so much local cuisine here.
Compared to when I was in the Midwest, where there was a dozen of each franchise.
Soon:

$59.99 without the app
"You want a tip? Here's your tip: 'Fuck You, Clanker, I'm eating!'"
Plus $20 handling fee
Is this a miniature or one of those things where they make actual tiny food?
This is the original. Polymer clay.
Anything is edible if you believe it.
OK, Art Vandelay.
It sucks how ai cheapens ALL art like this. There has to be a word for when something is mistaken for AI.
I found this image dating back to 2014, it's probably even older, so not AI generated.
This is the original, 2011.
I went to the website and apparently it's a miniature, the artist has been doing this way before the A'I' craze: https://www.aiclay.com/philosophy
wait until they can feed you paste but make you think it tastes good.
This is how I feel about certain expensive meal replacement supplements.
soylent mignon is made out of rocks!
In Belgium, when you go to a 'frituur' and you order 2 small fries you get this amount of fries:

That's like 5 Guys burgers in the US
its called that because you need 5 guys to finish 1 meal!
Similarly, any chip shop in the UK outside of greater London. I've taken to ordering a medium chips for my wife and I, because a large is just Too Many Chips.
In London, however, they serve a tragically small amount of chips in many chippies. Fuck London.
Yeah I was in Belgium last year and them OG fries were the best. Really good quality mayo too.
Except they will give you a parcel of chips instead of fries
Who the fuck goes to a chippy and orders a "Minimum fries" lol???
Wasn't even in Belgium but in France near the border and there was one of these shops setup in a kinda temporary thing on the highway. Still felt a bit peckish after the tiny triangle sandwich so ordered a small fry, was greeted with not much less than pictured here haha. Had to share them to get through it.
Picturing that makes me grimace.
That sloppy bun with the mayo spilling over the sides
Guessing OP's picture is from Europe or a Micky D's inside of a theme park.
Yeah. These are from the San Francisco Bay Area as the other commenter said lol
That's wild to me, but good info to know.
I don't get the point of fast food chains anymore. Never really ate there, but I always had the idea it was a cheap place where to eat.
This past year I've been once in burger king, where I spent about 10€, and I tried KFC for the first time, where I spent some 15€. I did not eat enough even at such a high price.
With 15€ i can go to an actual restaurant, why would I go to a fast food place?
I don’t get the point of fast food chains anymore.
It's all in the name. You can get through a fast-food drive through in about 5-10 minutes. Dining in and cooking tends to take thirty min to an hour.
With 15€ i can go to an actual restaurant, why would I go to a fast food place?
Because you're fighting traffic on your way home to feed your spouse and kids.
They are so understaffed these days that they are no longer fast anymore.
I think the real reason they exist is because of addiction. They've got people addicted to 7,000 times the amount of recommended daily sugar, fat, and salt content.
They're still trying to rake in that high despite it now costing 5x the price, at 1/3 the quickness and 1/2 the quality.
If they started from scratch today - I don't think they would go far.
They are so understaffed these days that they are no longer fast anymore.
The food itself is pre-prepared and re-heated on the spot. Go when there's not a rush on and you can get your food in minutes. Go during rush hour and you'll still be in and out much faster than at a sit-down establishment (that's also inevitably understaffed).
They’ve got people addicted to 7,000 times the amount of recommended daily sugar, fat, and salt content.
I've heard this line and I think there's an element of truth to it. Food really does taste differently if you've been eating the high salt/sugar junk for an extended period.
But you can get junk food anywhere. You don't need McD's to make it for you. Gas stations have soda fountains. Grocery stores have microwaved meals full of preservatives and sweeteners. You can just make yourself a hamburger at home, it doesn't have to come from a store.
It just takes time, a certain degree of skill, and a kitchen with functional appliances that you're going to need to clean up after you're done. McD's just goes in the trash afterwards. Far faster to buy a burger than cook one.
It’s all in the name. You can get through a fast-food drive through in about 5-10 minutes.
Because you’re fighting traffic on your way home to feed your spouse and kids.
Go when there’s not a rush on and you can get your food in minutes.
Sorry but this is circular reasoning.
If you don't have much time then you go when you're able to. Which is lunchtime or after work. Which is the same for everyone else. Which is why you have to wait in line for half an hour. Which is why the "saving time" aspect doesn't make any sense. It doesn't matter if the food is ready made if you have to wait behind 30 other cars ahead of you.
A takeout order anywhere else will be ready when you get there if you call ahead of time and you can just go in and get it. No need to wait a single minute.
The truth is that fast food is made to be addictive, not convenient.
Not where I live, no. And wouldn't I rather take them to an actual restaurant? I mean, if we leave the house to go eat somewhere I'd rather take the family to a nice place and eat something good.
Dining in and cooking tends to take thirty min to an hour.
Don't know how much faster the fast food is, when I've been to that burger king I tell you I have been fighting with that automatic ordering machine for 10 good minutes before I actually succeeded.
If I have to go to the shop, order, get the food and take it back home I'm better off cooking at home.
I never used them, but I guess at this point if you really don't want to cook nor to go out you're better off with those applications which allow you to order food at your place from any restaurant.
I can understand eating out when you have no time to get back home, but then I have much better options where to eat at the same price or even cheaper.
Cheapest burger and fries will send you 7 euros back. One can buy Doner for that price which will include potatoes, tons of salad and meat, sauce (sometimes even 3 of it) and a piece of bread. Kebap is the new fast food and it is all round better than any fast food chains of today.
10-15 euros is a large amount of money where I live at, it would feed a family of five for a day.
You're living in a country where nearly everything is accessible in 15 minutes of walking or less, and besides you cook your food, I guess your local resto serves cheaper food. However, I also guess there's some inflation going on and/or higher cost of living, that's why you see fast food restos as being more expensive, although they do exist partly because of convenience, especially if in a car and a drive-thru makes it faster to grab whatever lunch or dinner off from the order window.
At least around me, I feel like the drive-thru is often noticeably slower than parking and going inside. The last time I got McDonald's at the drive-thru, I was waiting for over a half hour to get my order. To make it worse, I was stuck in the inner lane, so I couldn't even say "fuck it" and drive off until I was third in line. At that point, I had spent a good 25 minutes waiting, so the sunk cost fallacy kicked in and I waited some more. When I got to the window to pick up my order, it wasn't even warm.
I don't get fast food as much anymore, but when I do, I order through the app and go inside to pick it up. At least then it doesn't feel like I'm stuck in gridlocked traffic.
Yeah Taco Bell is the only fast food that I'll still get every now and then, but that's only because I consider it to be it's on genre of food that's separate from actual Mexican or Tex-Mex food. Even the prices there have gotten ridiculous
McDonalds here in London is comical. I'm not even near the inner city (Greater London) and I'm surprised they get business these days.
The last time I wanted a burger I checked, and a meal was going for around £11+
I walked for five minutes and found a local place, paid about £7-8 for a proper good burger meal with better quality ingredients... They even asked me what kind of bun I wanted (went with brioche).
The meat wasn't as thin as a pencil either.
Same thing where I am, I could go to Wendy's and get a meal for 15 dollars that won't fill me up or I can go down the street and get a breakfast burrito the size of my forearm and a large drink that'll last me until noon for 15 dollars. While I may be rather lanky in my arms that's still a fucken forearm worth of food thatll hold me over till dinner.
Their competition is other expensive British food, so I could see the logic there.
Theres mcds in vietnam, selling their crap at american prices, where you can walk 200 feet in any direction and get amazing food for like 60 cents.
That's crazy! I hope the sales from the McDonalds branches, in Vietnam, are at least contributing to the country in a meaningful way through taxes etc.
(I don't know about that sort of thing, I just hope the huge difference in price at least has some benefit to locals).
One of the odd effects I've noticed with the last round of inflation is that prices are converging. Cheaper places raised prices more than more expensive places. I never liked McDonald's - the french fries are good but I've never chosen to go there, only had them incidentally. But it was cheap. Not now, it's more like going anywhere, so why would you go there? As someone else said, I can get tacos down the street, closer than any fast food place and they are pretty fast, or we go to the cafe up the street, they did have inflation but at least the money stays local.
Are the contents less by weight? I don’t doubt your frustration. But when I was a kid, the happy meals came in a cardboard box, but now they come in a paper bag (at least in Japan). Obviously to save money. Maybe they just cut the cardboard box to save money? FWIW I actually ate a large fries yesterday and they came in the traditional packaging, so this was surprising for me.
It seemed like less but I can’t deny that it could be placebo. It seemed like we got through it pretty fast though
Not sure what the rules are where you are, but one way is to check the menu for calories if they need to be listed.
Then you can tell exactly what the size difference is between a small, medium and large, assuming they aren't lying about the calories, and that they actually fill it to the proper size listed per the calories.
I think it only applies for eat in but not 100% sure.
I keep wondering when the Reddit fad of bitching about McDonalds will end.
The food is shit. It has always been shit. There was never a time when the food from McDonadls did not suck. There was never a time when eating there was not a waste of money. There have always been better options including better burger fast food chains….
There has never been a time when it was a good idea to eat at McDonalds for a variety of reasons.
So like the idiot who keeps smoking it is entirely that idiots fault.
If you buy food from McDonalds it is entirely your fault.
STFU about it.
I think its people being bitten for the first time. I hadn't been there in years because theres not one near me. When I went a few months back I did do a double take checking the receipt with what I actually received.
I was expecting a low-end shitty budget option. The game changed and I didnt expect it.
If you don't like the content you can simply not engage with it.
Tell me you weren't alive in the early '70s, without telling me you weren't alive in the early '70s.
Because McD's has gotten worse.
It's still always been shit, but it has also gotten worse. I assume they're trying to say McD's wasn't garbage at some point in the past simply because they have gotten worse, but... a burger has always been a cheap shitty meal. They just charge a normal meal's price for them these days, because Americans are used to eating expensive shit.
In the early '70s a Big Mac was the size of The Whopper at the time, so it was huge. It was also decent value back then, IIRC the Big Mac Meal was like $1.50 back then.
You can still get a version of the original Big Mac at Plant Power these days, but it is completely vegan.
No, the big mac was never the size of a whopper. I don't think it has changed much at all. Look it up.
What did change was when McDonalds was well worth it: 5 cheeseburgers for a buck. But that was the 50's.
I don’t remember how much McDonalds cost in the 70s. kids tend to not retain that information.
Thing is do remember this. In 1978 I could get a burger from a place called The Duck Inn for 75 cents. It was huge and delicious. At that same place a chicken dinner was $1.50.
Here is a picture of the place https://www.shorpy.com/node/20743
Amazingly The Duck Inn is the only restaurant costs I remember from my childhood, because the place was two doors down from where my family and I lived.
I went to college in the 80s and started to learn about nutrition and the environment and found out how shitty fast food was/is.
McDonald’s didn’t turn to shit in the 80s. It always was shit.
Bullshit! Mcnuggets were amazing back in the 80's.
I'm not defending Mcds , but everyone can choose to eat whatever they want. Everyone has fast food of any kind everywhere,. It's not my place to judge whether they eat it or not. You never hung out with your friends at a fast food joint because that's what you could all afford at the time ?
I think the spirit of the post is that all fast food horribly shifted to being terrible in the last decade. Mcds happens to be one of the most prominent ones. KFC is cardboard now, Chinese food containers are now half of what they used to be. A Korean fried chicken place cut the wings in two and called them separate pieces, so you have two buy two now to get the same amount of chicken as before. With the smaller portion , the price has gone up 50% across the board.
Maybe some countries have not seen their food quality and price shift so quickly, but in Corporate America, consumers are getting squeezed like never before. The dollar has lost 50% spending power everywhere in America.
One of my favorite local takeout lobster sandwiches used to be $17 less than 10 years ago, now it's $40, and it's the same size as before.
I really wonder what they'd consider "small fries" then.
Bag of potatoes, a knife, oil, a pot and thermometer. Now you can have a snack that is a million times better and cheaper.
Double fry the potatoes for that authentic fish and chip style fries.
This is always my concern. Actually frying something takes minutes, but heating, cooling, straining, and storing significant volumes of oil just doesn't justify the convenience. If I want fried food, I'm going to a restaurant.
Bought a deep fryer a couple years back, once you're done with it, and let it cool down. You can turn a knob and it will filter itself and empty into a storage container. Once the oil has gone bad, I have a Home Depot bucket with a lid that I dump it into, once that is full I take it to the dump. Once the filtered bits are dumped in the compost, everything else goes in the dishwasher.
I fry in peanut oil, I have 2 air fryers but some things need to be deep fried.
I bought a deep fryer for $100ish. Makes it easy. Turn it on, come back 10minutes later, cook food for 4 minutes and then eat. It is a bitch to clean though but depends on how thorough you want to be.
That literally solves none of the complaints.
It's the next Big Thing: Oil Cocktails!
You can reuse it several times by running it through a cheese cloth. Otherwise just put it in a jar/pitcher/empty oil bottle.
Make churros. Mix same amount water and flour with a bit of salt. Press out with a churro maker, fry for 2 minutes, cool, sprinkle sugar and serve with hot chocolate
It’s call use a smaller pot and less oil. You don’t need 2 litres every time you fry…
Restaurants also reuse oil a bunch by simply filtering out the big particles.
One the oil has cooled down and run through a filter you can store it again for later.
Okay so you have use for 2 litres. Why did you ask what to do with two litres of oil?
Did you mean after? Let it cool and filter and store it for the next meal.
You should be filtering the oil and eventually it does get burnt out. But yeah it’s super easy to maintain a basic deep fryer.
Mine has an integrated filter, so I don’t even have to care of this. The oil pan and accessories are dishwasher safe, so super easy to clean. And in my case, where I only use it like 4-5 times a year, I don’t have to change the oil often. Using the same oil for 2 years now without issues.
I know, I don’t eat like this usually lol. I’m just doing night shift and it’s only fast food and convenience stores open right now😆
Use the overhead fan. Also if you filter and store the oil once it’s cooled down it won’t smell at all.
I do use the overhead fan. And I move the whole fryer, oil and all, outside when I finish cooking, till I can clean it. I store the oil in the garage as well. Still stinks the house out everytime I use it.
They'll never have that limp, soggy, and oversalted McDonalds feel like that.
Yeah they will be far far superior. Especially if you blanch and double fry the potatoes. Salt levels you can determine yourself too. Make it as salty as you want.
Go away RFKjr
He said beef tallow, not bull semen.
Just because RFK jr is a brain-damaged POS doesn't make vegetable oil automatically the better choice.
They are talking about the Minnesota Coronary Experiment, which suggests that using vegetable oil reduces cardiac disease, but leads to earlier death.
Rejecting science because it happens to be included in the garbage that an idiot believes would make you an idiot as well.
Edit: While re-reading what I wrote, I realize I'm also taking about the scientist who ran the study. He believed that his study would show that vegetable oils are healthier than animal fats. When the results proved the opposite was true, he hid the data.
You’re reading too much into my stupid quip. I honestly don’t care which frying medium is “healthier”, you’re still frying shit. “Steam burns you more than boiling water”… bitch, they both hurt.
McDonalds Rep: It's not really fair you dug up Andre the Giant to hold our large fries in your picture.
I am, helped break my junk food addiction. Now I never pay for it.
That's a good question, answer is generally that it depends. Do I want to spend more money on stuff? Of course not.
But if the price is the same or negligibly more, then I'm better off not incurring the bodily damage of consuming excess calories. The smaller the default size of the suggested meal (eg, a combo) the better, unless it hits the point where it makes me order a second meal or extra sides.
That preference reflects my own privilege, health perspective, and lack of self-control though. I know it's a different call for everyone.
OP might have massive hands.

Wasn't the large fries always a ripoff? I think someone showed once that it's only marginally more fries than a small fry.
Historically, it was one of the cheaper items on the menu. In college (20 years ago) I could get a large fries for under $1. Back in the 80s/90s they were practically free. Like, loose-change free.
Also one of the tastier meal items given that they went so fast you could safely assume they'd be fresh, why the sandwich options could be sitting in the warmer for half an hour or longer depending on the speed of business.
When I worked in fast food all fry containers got 1 scoop of fries. If you got a large, you could squeeze more in, but mgmt disapproved. So it's kind of a mix bag
Can't lie, that looks massive.
Mcdonalds these days suck ass.
The 2010s were great. Very nostalgic and McDonalds was one of my first and my best memories of America. Glad I got to enjoy them before they went to shit, cuz otherwise kid-me would've have the impression that "all western foods suck". (I mean it's hard to even know how to look for local non-chain "western" restaurants... since the reason I know what a McDonalds is because back in China, we also had them, but I think it tasted different... don't remember)
I mean seriously, is it just me or does like Papa Johns and Dominos and even Pizza Hut all went to shit?
P.S. I remember my mom telling about the Pizza we had in Pizza Hut in China... like she said it was expensive and it was only a very small pizza (like individual-size). I don't even remember having it in China
Glad I got to enjoy them before they went to shit, cuz otherwise kid-me would’ve have the impression that “all western foods suck”.
... This is like someone saying "Guys I thought American chocolate was awful, but have you tried this Hershey's stuff?!? It's so good!" Like I'm glad you had a good experience but... but I'm sorry that was your good experience.
I mean, for context, I was like 8 years old when I first got here. I didn't really know the difference between fastfood vs "real" restaurants so I just categorically grouped them all together.
Honestly, I still don't really know what "real" western food is.
I remember going along with family to a cousin's sweet 16 birthday party and I think its was western cuisine or something... like I heard they spend a lot of money on it (the cousin's parents were kinda middle class rich) and I disliked most of the food they served, didn't eat much, don't even remember what they served. Ended up going home kinda hungry lol.
I think I just go so used to Chinese food, I didn't feel confident exploring other types of "western" food... other than like burgers, pizzas, cheesesteaks, subway sandwiches / hoagies. Which I know, living here for like over a decade, I still don't feel quite "American" because of my picky eating habits.
Honestly, I still don’t really know what “real” western food is.
French cuisine is the most classically famous example, but pretty much every western country has hundreds of years of it's own extremely distinct culinary identity (ex: Germany, Spain, Italy, even the UK (despite the jokes)).
If you just mean the US though, it doesn't exactly have it's own unified thing going on beyond what you've listed (burgers, pizzas, etc) but there are plenty of foods, and even a few entire genres of food, that are very closely tied to the american identity (Texmex is the best one I can think of). The most "american" american food I can think of is probably hotdish which... I don't actually recommend seeking out (please don't hurt me, I just don't think the majority of casseroles are all that great)
its mostly meat, and maybe some kind of bread, very high incidence of type 2 amongst western countries, after asians started incorporating alot of sugar in thier diet, type 2 was in the rise in them too. vegatables are lacking in thier cousins, much like with European ones.
Well the West is know for their baked goods and pastries. Like croissants, donuts, churros, etc. Like in East Asia and South East Asia a lot of the pastry that is for sale is based on Western recipes and they are different from the local pastry recipes.
they changed after renovating thier stores in '19 to have those kiosks, it was never the same.
Here in colombia when you order any size fries from McD’s they are only a small amount. Doesn’t matter if you order large or small. Always a small amount. It makes me sad because their fries are really good even though they’re fake.
How are the fries fake?
Kind of crazy when I just saw they announced a new "group" fry which is an XXL fry that basically allows them to sell you an even bigger version of the original supersize fry by saying its meant for groups.

Good, always use vet-approved pet food for your pets.
But I’ll definitely take some fried potatoes covered with salt for myself. Nothing artificial about it, just processed.
What exactly is artificial about potatoes, oil, and salt? Which of those ingredients specifically are artificial?
Meh, pretty ok with this. America needs a serious downsize on processed food.
I remember getting ice cream from McDonald's - must've been 15 years ago. It was somewhat nice, but then the whole "the ice cream machine is broken" thing started and I haven't bothered any more. Can't tell about the rest of the food, but I share the sentiment that if it's getting shittier and shittier, you shouldn't support it.
remember the salads, last time i bought that 10+years ago while still in community, i heard they discontinued it.
While I understand the temptation of McD's fries, I stopped eating completely out during the pandemic and never went back. I got used to making my own meals. It's much cheaper, and I know what's in the food.
I do miss KFC, tho.
I miss KFC for completely different reasons. Mainly because it's not even KFC anymore, and they finally managed to take over the Corbin, KY store and kill off The Colonel's recipes.
“Large” is a state of mind now 😅 If you’ve got the receipt, it’s worth a quick feedback ticket—sometimes they’ll toss you a replacement or coupon.
don't paper bags give more?
Funny, here in Germany the small ones come in cardboard. There is no actual small anymore.
That’s awful but bro… please… clip your nails. I’m begging you…
Genuinely had to scroll up to see what the problem was... Those are genuinely some of the least offensive nails I've seen (the temptation to say "this year" is unreal, I feel like I now understand the primal urge to make dad jokes)
Tell me you’re a smart person when you keep buying low quality shit you don’t need and complain about the quantity of that same shit when it isn’t sold by weight or volume.
Maybe change your eating habits.
Because you sound insufferable when you call fries "slop."
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-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.
-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.
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Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts
-Do not Brigade other Communities
-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.
-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.
-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.
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-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.
-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.
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-Content should be Mildly infuriating. If your post better fits !Actually_Infuriating put it there.
-The Community !actuallyinfuriating has been born so that's where you should post the big stuff.
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-If you would like to provide a source link, do so in the comments but not in the post body.
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