What bothers me...

8 months ago by OddHops to c/comicstrips

Protoknuckles 86 points 8 months ago

Honestly, same.

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lost_faith 25 points 8 months ago

Listening to music on yt, hit a censored word "God dammit!" skip rest of song, force search back to "lyrics" as they are seldom edited like that

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chaotic_disorganizer 75 points 8 months ago

Well, yeah. Censoring isn't everywhere because people complained, it's because advertisers complained.

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loonmusic 30 points 8 months ago

The irony is movies shown on TV with people being murdered and blood flying everywhere and bleeping out the swearing.

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Goatboy 1 point 8 months ago

People complained to advertisers. I remember 2005.

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Haunt 39 points 8 months ago

The internet being censored is one of the most incredibly ridiculous things to happen in our lifetime. Nothing missed the point harder than corporate internet. Even that's an oxymoron.

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Goatboy 1 point 8 months ago

This is what we tried to warn people about when the campaigns to pressure YT to censor people started.

Censorship never stops with the thing you personally want.

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FilthyShrooms 38 points 8 months ago

How else am I supposed to say bri*ish?

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ILikeBoobies 8 points 8 months ago

Just say "the better English speakers"

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aciddev 15 points 8 months ago

"English (Traditional) speakers."

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Linktank 7 points 8 months ago

Better? They can hardly pronounce their own language.

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hOrni 24 points 8 months ago

All we got out of it is that joke, where a character says a bunch of profanities and is being bleeped for 30 seconds. But that's been used to death already.

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aeration1217 20 points 8 months ago

These memes with little strips of white over a word or letter are so cringe, it makes me feel awkwardness for others policing their own language.. online

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YiddishMcSquidish 19 points 8 months ago

I so identify with this lady.

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MutantTailThing 19 points 8 months ago

And don’t get me started on people who say ‘ahh’

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Joelk111 15 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't even hate it so much if it were spelt better. Ahh reads like the noise the doctor asks you to make. I can't help but read it like that in my head, and my head doesn't like it. I'm not even sure what the phonetically correct spelling would be. Even aaa would be better imo.

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RebekahWSD 9 points 8 months ago

Ahh is a word I use for thinking sounds (ahh, uhm, um) so I keep reading it as that and then I have to reread it. Annoying!

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AFKBRBChocolate 11 points 8 months ago

I'm not sure what that refers to, and I'm not getting it from the replies.

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Joelk111 11 points 8 months ago

It's gen-z speak for ass.

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aciddev 7 points 8 months ago

More like algospeak, there's a lot of adequate but quiet gen-z'ers, believe me they despise it as much as everyone else.

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yogurtwrong 4 points 8 months ago

I am 20. I hate algospeak so bad. But "ahh" kinda stuck in my tongue

"ahh" feels like the sound you'd make when you try to say "ass" quickly

I feel like "ass" and "ahh" conveys different feelings so I use them interchangably. But I still cringe a bit because "ahh" originated from algospeak

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Joelk111 4 points 8 months ago

In speaking I don't mind it tbh, I just hate how it's spelled, as I can't help but read it as the noise you make with your mouth open at the doctor, which sounds all kinds of wrong.

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AFKBRBChocolate 2 points 8 months ago

Oh, thank you. Is it pronounced like 'A'?

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Joelk111 4 points 8 months ago

Pronounced like ass, but without the s sound, instead just extending the a sound.

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capuccino 3 points 8 months ago

what is that? what is that "ahh" thing?

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Holytimes 0 points 8 months ago

Search anglospeak. It's that.

Basically if someone's using ahh assuming they are like 14 or just actively retard. Either way you are right.

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Holytimes -1 points 8 months ago

Personally, they should all just drink a cup of bleach. Not enough to permanently kill them, just enough to send them to the hospital and give them lifelong injuries.

But I'm currently in a bad mood and just want to wish harm on stooped people. Possibly including myself as I in particularly retarded sometimes.

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cley_faye 17 points 8 months ago

It is annoying. You know what you wanted to write. We know what you wanted to write. The algorithm know what you wanted to write. And if you're so inclined, your god/gods knows what you wanted to write.

If you write "f*ck this sh!t", you've offended exactly the same number of people you would have with "fuck this shit". Stop acting like a posing saint and just say what you're saying anyway.

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leftzero 8 points 8 months ago

If you write "f*ck this sh!t", you've offended exactly the same number of people you would have with "fuck this shit".

More people. You've also offended the people who are fucking tired of this censorship bullshit, who would've been completely fine with the uncensored version.

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ccunning 1 point 8 months ago

…but it was the right more people…

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Lemminary 7 points 8 months ago

But think of the children upper management! How else will they pitch advertisement opportunities to their providers while promoting healthy environment interactions and maintaining record profits for the next quarter??

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yogurtwrong 3 points 8 months ago

👏if you want to censor something, don't write it 👏

Writing is a tool for communication. Writing something implies your desire to communicate it.

This might land a little controversial but I'll go one step further and say you should not censor racial/homophobic slurs if they are not being used for offense. For example:

"I hate my cop neighbor, I heard he called my niece a f***ot"

(I obviously censored it here because lemmy prob. has a filter for that shit.)

In this sentence, I am not attacking anyone and I am simply trying to communicate a bad act done by somebody else. The message of the sentence is not homophobic in any way and me censoring the nasty word definitely didn't change anything about the message. People can still hear that word loud and clear.

So if you think including the word would be offensive for people, and think it's not a crucial part of your message, simply don't write it.

"I hate my cop neighbor, I heard he called my niece a homophobic slur"

There you go. You did not communicate the word f***ot and your audience did not receive it. A successful example of self censorship

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flamingleg 1 point 8 months ago

bad word bad! no context! only hurt feelings! whos feelings? an imaginary person that might get offended! also they are underage.

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thatradomguy 17 points 8 months ago

I always find it funny how in other countries, there isn't so much a stigma for kids being exposed to cursing and swearing in something like cartoons. I have always hated how music even has to be censored to appease the—let's face it—minority (probably religious) who happen to like everything else about the song except for language they deem unworthy. The artist expresses themselves with honesty. If you can't handle that, tough shit. Listen to a podcast or Kidsbop. FFS

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404 15 points 8 months ago

I feel the same about trigger warnings where the warnings are more triggering than the content. The ridiculous ones have petered somewhat, but at its peak you'd see stuff like

TW: mental health, suicide, self harm, narcissistic abuse

Post: I feel sad today :( my mum is telling me to clean and she doesn't get me

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JackbyDev 14 points 8 months ago

I really dislike the sound they use for censoring. It's so annoying. Plus, why make it so loud? I think they genuinely do it to make it seem worse and grab your attention.

Another thing I hate is when the subtitles are censored but not the audio. That's actually pretty ableist if you think about it. They should match. If the audio is censored, censor the subtitles. If the audio is uncensored, don't censor the subtitles. It infantilizes people who are hard of hearing as if they can't handle a swear.

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Johanno 4 points 8 months ago

Youtube auto censors the subtitles if you don't tick off a setting.

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JackbyDev 2 points 8 months ago

On the viewer's side or creator's side?

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Johanno 2 points 8 months ago

Creator side

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JackbyDev 3 points 8 months ago

Thanks. When I see it in the future I will leave a comment about it.

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luciferofastora 2 points 8 months ago

I really dislike the sound they use for censoring. It's so annoying. Plus, why make it so loud? I think they genuinely do it to make it seem worse and grab your attention.

That's probably from back in the analog days where the only ways to censor a word from a live audio feed were to kill the signal or to overlay another, louder noise that renders the undesirable word unintelligible. If the video and audio signals are coupled and you don't wanna interrupt video, that just leaves bleeping over it.

Someone smarter than me is probably gonna correct me, but that's my best guess.

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JackbyDev 3 points 8 months ago

The signals were not coupled, at least not in that way, and at least in NTSC. None of the bandwidth of the audio signal overlaps with the video signal. In fact, the audio signal was just a standard FM signal that you could tune into with a radio.

Maybe in those days they just played a loud noise that didn't actually replace the sound and that was cheaper than setting something up with bandpass filters to mute it for a moment.

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AppleTea 1 point 8 months ago

In fact, the audio signal was just a standard FM signal that you could tune into with a radio.

wow, so today when we have podcasts that are also available as long youtube videos, we are in fact continuing a (single century) long tradition

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JackbyDev 2 points 8 months ago

I suppose you could view it like that lol. I'm not sure if modern video formats found a way to compress audio and video together. My guess is not because they're so inherently different. Films (like ya know, movies on film) had the audio on the film besides the frames.

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schema 10 points 8 months ago

I always found it funny when I see a censored middle finger on TV in the US. It's like they are drawing more attention to it by censoring it. And everyone knows what's behind the pixelation. It's so pointless.

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ProbablyBaysean 7 points 8 months ago

The video "the count censored" is quite good.

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InvalidName2 10 points 8 months ago

I know, I feel bad. One of the favorite things I used to say back in the frumpin' day was "Dude, it's the internet, you can cuss here".

Then slowly over the years, site after site after site after site after site started implementing rules against profanity. Not even in a somewhat sane, reasonable, or consistent way either. Which made it all the worse.

And now, annoying as it is for me personally, I just bite my t0%#$#gue and move on.

Still find it incredibly ridiculous that you can get banned from a certain R-word site for using the R-word, but calling someone or referring to them as a "cocksucker" is apparently perfectly acceptable.

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luciferofastora 4 points 8 months ago

I remember an MMO that had a profanity filter bleeping out parts of words with asterisks. I was so confused and frustrated why I couldn't talk to other players about ****ysing whatever it was that needed ****ysis.

Yeah, they had a mechanic called analysing, their own filter made it impossible to talk a out and 13 year old me didn't understand why it was censored. Talk about sane and reasonable.

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Holytimes 0 points 8 months ago
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InvalidName2 1 point 8 months ago

Interesting how similar my case was. I picked up a 72 hour ban from that site for using the word "retard" in the context of providing advice on how to retard (aka slow) the growth of mold.

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Notyou 9 points 8 months ago

Okay, but when they censor words on Metalocalypse they use guitar rifts and I enjoy that over the actual profanity.

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TaterTot 9 points 8 months ago

Honestly, some writers have gotten pretty creative with censorship. Firefly's use of "in universe" curses are a good example.

Plus such classics as the tv edit of The Big Lebowski's "Find me in the alps!"

I would prefer no censorship, but that's no reason to disregard the fine work of creators trying to make the best of a bad situation.

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ccunning 5 points 8 months ago

Firefly's use of "in universe" curses are a good example.

Also, The Good Place

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TaterTot 3 points 8 months ago

Absolutely!

What's great about The Good Place's "censorship" (imho), is the joke would work even if they weren't actually being censored. I get that it's a unique advantage of the shows premise, so it's more of an exception than the rule, but damn if it isn't well played!

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YiddishMcSquidish 3 points 8 months ago

Oh! Good observation! And I agree

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 9 points 8 months ago

they are called grawlixes in comics. i wonder if the artist used asterisks to avoid this conversation or because they didn't know.

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samus12345 11 points 8 months ago

I don't think they're referring to grawlixes at all, but rather the censorship when people are texting or speaking.

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faythofdragons 2 points 8 months ago

TIL what those are called.

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finallymadeanaccount 9 points 8 months ago

I love it when the tough guy alpha male MAGAts on various social media are so bad they self-censor words they know will get them banned.

Conversely, I hate how so many types of social media are self-censoring words because they're trying not to lose views according to an algorithm. It demeans the terrible severity when someone talks about rape by calling it 'grape', for instance. 'Unalived' is the most fucking ridiculous one.

Now f**k off, or I'll unpleasant you!

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Holytimes 2 points 8 months ago

Recently started reading the primal Hunter book 13 and the author in the recap chapter at the start of the book just went off on a blind tangent pissed off about self-censorship and how retarded it is. It was the most cathartic thing I have read in a long time. Absolutely fantastic.

Also, if you're a fan of lit RPG, highly recommend the primal Hunter books. Great reads! Fantastic audiobooks amazing narrator.

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probablymissing 1 point 8 months ago

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oopsgodisdeadmybad 9 points 8 months ago

The beep they use on TV is ear-piercing.

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ccunning 8 points 8 months ago

Hahaha - that sh^%s working perfect…

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Siethron 8 points 8 months ago

Well ****

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AFKBRBChocolate 8 points 8 months ago

We always told our kids that if we heard them saying something hurtful, they were going to get in trouble, whether or not they used a cuss word. If they used a cuss word in a way that wasn't hurtful, we didn't care. The caveat being that lots of other adults, including many teachers, do care, so they should watch their audience.

By the same token, if they were singing a song or quoting someone that used a cuss word, we'd rather they say the word than self-censor it. If everyone know what word you mean, what's the point?

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TheLeadenSea 2 points 8 months ago

By the same token, if they were singing a song or quoting someone that used a cuss word, we'd rather they say the word than self-censor it. If everyone know what word you mean, what's the point?

What if it's a white person singing a song that contains the slur against black people?

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AFKBRBChocolate 6 points 8 months ago

Honestly, I feel the same way. This "he who shall not be named" thing is dumb. If the song is offensive, it's still going to be offensive if you replace it be saying "the N word" or whatever. But I'd also go back to the "know your audience" thing. If there's someone in ear shot who is going to be triggered by a white person singing it, then maybe don't sing it.

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reksas 6 points 8 months ago

which one feels more vulgar or offensive?

"fuck"

"****"

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raimundojcc 2 points 8 months ago

What the fuck does **** mean? I'm so angry. And the beeps are the worse. I'm a very foul speaker, I curse every fucking sentence. It's fucking awesome.

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REDACTED 3 points 8 months ago

MAGA

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gnu 5 points 8 months ago

With an audio track I feel like a well timed bleep can actually make a scene funnier. Doesn't work as well if you're trying to play it serious though.

When it comes to text censoring isn't worth it IMO, at least the type where you blank out part of the word or use a derivative. Everyone can still tell what word you meant so if it was important enough to include then use the actual word. If it wasn't that important then you don't need to write the word you're worried about in the first place - there are other words that can be used for insults or emphasis.

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AI_toothbrush 4 points 8 months ago

Any time i or anyone else plays music on yt i want to scratch my ears out because they usually have the censored songs

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Flauschige_Lemmata 4 points 8 months ago

I actually like censored swear words in written text. At least when they are censored enough that you can't tell what the swearword is, but you know the intention behind it.

Deliberate misspellings are obnoxious though

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pulsey 4 points 8 months ago

what the fudge?

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sol6_vi 2 points 8 months ago
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codingitwrong 1 point 8 months ago

I d**d

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PieMePlenty 1 point 8 months ago

Fuck'n A.

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Soulg -10 points 8 months ago

Hot take: the amount of whining and bitching about the censoring is INFINITELY more annoying and insufferable than reading f*ck occasionally

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MutantTailThing 13 points 8 months ago

People who have ‘hot takes’ are even more annoying.

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ayyy 5 points 8 months ago

I see more complaints about complainers than actual complaints. You are the problem.

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LadyMeow 1 point 8 months ago

You are kidding, right? Maaaaaybe that’s true in this thread. But if anyone posts something with a censored swear or whatever there are absolute drives of people ‘uhm aktually you can swear in the internet!’ ‘Just say the word bro’ ‘you can say f**k’ etc.

I even saw a thread where someone posted a tweet or something that was censored, one of the random comments was itt: people complaining about the censor, and then, sure enough tons of said comments.

I don’t get why people care so much. Some people don’t like to swear, even online. So just let them use the **. You’ve already won! Nobody complains about cussing on the internet, now you are like trying to force everyone to cuss as well. It’s so weird.

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ickplant 2 points 8 months ago

Totally with you on this. The amount of complaining about inconsequential censoring is too damn high!

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whelk 3 points 8 months ago

You're getting downvoted and I suspect I'm about to join you, but when I saw the post the first thing I thought was "the guy must must be a Lemmy user" because of all the extended rant threads I've seen here from people getting mad at others who avoid using profanity or choose to self censor. I'm all for fighting against unnecessary enforced censorship from higher ups but it's weird to see people get so mad at someone for just personally wanting to avoid it, using asterisks, or using less offensive substitute words for "real" profanity.

It's just so gosh darned strange, seems like a fracked up reason to crap on someone

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ickplant 8 points 8 months ago

Not to mention that 9 out of 10 times it’s not the Lemmy OP censoring, they are just grabbing a meme that’s been censored elsewhere.

I think it’s finny that people on Lemmy want “more content” but then complain hardcore about minor things even in shitposts, like cropping or pixels.

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ccunning 0 points 8 months ago

I’ve decided I’m going to start doing it specifically to f**k with the whiners

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whelk 2 points 8 months ago

You're such a d**k

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ccunning 2 points 8 months ago

“What the French; toast?”

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rumba -2 points 8 months ago

I give no fucks if someone censors or not. Who the fuck do we think we are to tell people to cuss or censor? It's none of our fucking business.

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AzuranAurora 3 points 8 months ago

Ha! Wow, you care that much that you got downvoted that you went out of your way to find out who? That's sad. I owe you no explanation.

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rumba 1 point 8 months ago

ohh fuck no, i give no fucks about downvotes here, they're no different that toilet paper and I certainly never seem to run out.

i'm genuinely curious. It seems an incredibly strange thing to oppose. Dhould make for some interesting treads, but if you're not game, meh.

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    • Non-English posts are welcome. Please tag the post title with the original language, and include an English translation in the body of the post; e.g.,
      Sí, por favor [Spanish/Español]
  8. *� Moderation

    • We are human, just like most everybody else on Lemmy. If you feel a moderation decision was made in error, you are welcome to reach out to anybody on the moderation team for clarification. Keep in mind that moderation decisions may be final.
    • When reporting posts and/or comments, quote which rule is being broken, and why you feel it broke the rules.
Banned Artists

The following artists are banned from the community.

  1. Jago
  2. Stonetoss
  3. GPrime85

It should be noted that when you make reports, it is your responsibility to provide rational reasoning why something should be removed. Saying it simply breaks community rules is not always good enough.

Web Accessibility

Note: This is not a rule, but a helpful suggestion.

When posting images, you should strive to add alt-text for screen readers to use to describe the image you're posting:

Another helpful thing to do is to provide a transcription of the text in your images, as well as brief descriptions of what's going on. (example)

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