Heh

3 months ago by EatingOnions to c/linuxmemes

Blurntout 93 points 3 months ago

Linux does let you fuck around and find out lol

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Auster 102 points 3 months ago

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henfredemars 26 points 3 months ago

But then you find out, and you learn, and we become better users for it.

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aguasemgas 7 points 3 months ago

True, I only broke my boot twice... Never again

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Grass 14 points 3 months ago

With the number of times I have done the live distro chroot thing you'd think I would have the procedure memorized

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Bluewing 5 points 3 months ago

Don't be so sure.

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basxto 3 points 2 months ago

I’m a good user on a very broken system

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henfredemars 1 point 2 months ago

It’s okay I installed FreeBSD the other day and it still crashes.

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FuyuhikoDate 23 points 3 months ago

Linux does not "let you fuck around" in fact its says "you are root and if you root I assume u know what you do!"

And yeah i learned that the hard way when it didnt threw any errors at me doing stuff as root...

10/10 would do it again!

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YellowParenti 13 points 3 months ago

I've forgotten i was root, thought I was back to normal user, fat fingered a command, and removed tons of directories. I actually learn more fixing my fuck ups than when I reading books. Nothing like pressure to really focus you!

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bufalo1973 7 points 3 months ago

The best teacher is a fuck up

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night_petal 4 points 3 months ago

That happened to me with /etc/ . That was not a fun experience.

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fizzbang 3 points 3 months ago

rm -rf /

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ranzispa 1 point 3 months ago

Please, if you do that rm / -rf and you're really looking into that path to make sure it's correct.

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collapse_already 1 point 2 months ago

And when you reverse destination and source when using the dd command, you learn an important lesson, "the disk destroyer" nickname is legit.

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lemming741 70 points 3 months ago

initrd? Sounds like bloat, I'm deleting it.

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Zwiebel 18 points 3 months ago

I only need the internet, what is this

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zakobjoa 52 points 3 months ago

I've debloated my OS down to a typewriter.

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jubilationtcornpone 10 points 3 months ago

Smith Corona Linux.

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Bluewing 7 points 3 months ago

Pencil and paper for me boys. I'd do cave painting, there are no caves around me.

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tempest 6 points 3 months ago

I use Selectric Linux btw

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jubilationtcornpone 6 points 3 months ago

Found the IBM loyalist.

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wonderingwanderer 3 points 3 months ago

You could've just installed slack

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Bluewing 4 points 3 months ago

Ahhh, sackcloth and ashes! Tarballs. Yum!

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bufalo1973 2 points 3 months ago

Olivetti it isπŸ€ͺ

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amlor 39 points 3 months ago

You don't have to use it it under uefi anyway.

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Saapas 11 points 3 months ago

I'm going to mount efivars as rw and delete them

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Jankatarch 39 points 3 months ago

A mistake in Linux can cause it to uninstall its bootloader.

A mistake in Windows can also cause it to uninstalling Linux's bootloader.

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PlaidBaron 12 points 3 months ago

Windows IS a mistake.

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Jako302 11 points 3 months ago

Speaking from experience, windows will gladly uninstall the linux bootloader without mistakes or errors involved. Pretty sure that's just what a successful update is for microslop.

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Sunrosa 1 point 2 months ago

You can disable updates using massgravel to get enterprise mode, and then disabling automatic updates in gpedit :3

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Gumus 4 points 2 months ago

Windows caused me to install Linux bootloader 🀷

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Adderbox76 33 points 3 months ago

Linux is the parent that let's their child put a fork into the electrical socket and then says "Have you learned anything?"

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HugeNerd 14 points 3 months ago

*lets

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Jankatarch 6 points 3 months ago

If you say so!

Linux is the parent tells their child "Lets put a fork into the electrical socket" and then says "Have you learned anything?"

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alekwithak 2 points 3 months ago

Get your damn hands off my Lets!

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beejboytyson 3 points 3 months ago

Msg unclear system dead

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ttyybb 20 points 3 months ago

"Am afraid you can't do that"

Sigh "sudo uninstall the bootloader"

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 6 points 3 months ago

Yes, do as I say!

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bufalo1973 2 points 3 months ago

When I grow up there will be a day when everybody has to do what IIIIII say...

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SleeplessCityLights 19 points 3 months ago

Not going to lie. Many years ago on one of my first Linux installs that I actually built up to be more than just a dev playground, I deleted my bootloader... it just let me do that, no scary confirm. That is the day I learned Linux is guardrails-off, lol.

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EatingOnions 15 points 3 months ago

My personal hurdle as teenager always was having to keep windows on same disk for my sisters to use while struggling to install Linux besides it so I could have that semi transparent terminal like in the movies. Can't even count how many times I've bricked bootloader because of that, but when it worked I felt like I'm a president

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SleeplessCityLights 9 points 3 months ago

Windows is the best program to use if you want to accidentally lose your boot ability. I haven't bothered to try dual boot for 10 years because I got tired of the bullshit.

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EatingOnions 3 points 3 months ago

Really especially at the my teenage times, there was no Google to help you, no mentors to guide you. You got some shitty homemade linux distro nobody ever heard of on CD from a friend and only way was through trial and error. Funny times

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steel_for_humans 1 point 2 months ago

It is not a problem if they are on different disks, though? I hope so :)

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spicytuna62 18 points 3 months ago

EatingOnions is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

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kamen 16 points 3 months ago

... and the irony that Windows can also fuck up your bootloader in a dual boot scenario.

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bufalo1973 2 points 3 months ago

Windows doesn't let you really screw your system because it's its work and it's very jealous of it.

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teyrnon 11 points 3 months ago

Edge is cancer, it randomly opens and takes minutes to load before recognizing closing it.

In the old days task manager would close it, but task manager is now worthless. God I fucking hate Microsoft

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kittenzrulz123 11 points 3 months ago

Technically speaking you don't need a bootloader to boot Linux, with uefi of course you can use efistub and just boot from there but you could also have a separate Linux distro on a USB stick than chroot into your main one. Hell even if you uninstall the kernel there are still ways to repair the system.

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schmorpel 8 points 3 months ago

πŸ₯²

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Digit 8 points 3 months ago

Yeah... uninstall the bootloader... I may just do that. Good idea. That'll be fun... a little extra security hurdle to hop over to be able to boot into the machine. Doesn't really do much to the attack surface, but eliminates about half of the dumb attackers. Glad for the freedom to have unique innovative security arrangements. Thankyou Free Software.

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gilokee 8 points 3 months ago

I mean you can delete system32 in windows tho

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notastatist 9 points 3 months ago

Yeah with my linux dual boot. But on win?

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elvith 11 points 3 months ago

IIRC they introduced copy on write and snapshots for all system files with Vista and since then you cannot alter them (with regular rights - NTAUTHORITY\SYSTEM might still be able to do so)

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rumba 7 points 3 months ago

You know, as much as I don't love AI, a small model sitting in the terminal of noob installations might be a useful thing.

update graphics driver

:hey, that's not a command, but if you're looking to do that, you should .... (step by step process)

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oppy1984 7 points 3 months ago

That's actually a good idea, just a tiny local model just to help you learn how to work in a terminal. I would have loved that when I first made the jump, the RTFM crowd almost made me give up.

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rumba 7 points 3 months ago

I've been avoiding RTFM for 30 years. command --help at best. Whoever writes the manual pages and I just don't see eye to eye on documentation.

command - description

20 examples of common usage

exhaustive list of options with a short paragraph each and acceptable usage.

that's what I want.

It seems either they want to write you a 50 page novel mentioning random options or just give you 250 options with loose references of what's not allowed with what.

I've been throwing a lot of my shell scripts into llm and asking for best practice updates, it's shocking how much cool shit it out there that i've never even considered.

today's gem:

script -q ~/command.log

do a bunch of crap

exit

script get's written

put that together with SSH.

Now you log ssh sessions on all servers to one file. You can go back and farm that for history.

script that out so that on exit it expunges export, sql and vault type passwords/keys.

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forestbeasts 4 points 3 months ago

EXAMPLES sections should be way more common!

They do exist, a lot of man pages have them.

They're at the BOTTOM though, for some reason (probably because they're kinda an afterthought, which is itself weird). It'd be nice to have them at the top.

-- Frost

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InputZero 4 points 3 months ago

Learning to not ask questions, feeling like a pleb when everyone else is a guru, and having RTFM yelled at you is part of the Linux experience. What else do you expect me to do when someone asks me a question? Provide that new user with a level headed answer that concisely addresses their problem in-order to encourage them to join the Linux community and help it to grow? Are you even listening to yourself right now, you sound crazy.

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ttyybb 1 point 3 months ago

the RTFM crowd almost made me give up.

Ya, there just gatekeeping skum that want to feel better than everyone else.

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Peffse 3 points 3 months ago

I've... seen this? Well, not an AI model, but I know I've seen something where it takes common words and gives you the best guess on commands, and even common typos.

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Cactopuses 6 points 3 months ago

There is a program called thefuck that does this - can fix things like gti instead of git etc..

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EatingOnions 8 points 3 months ago

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Cactopuses 6 points 3 months ago

Pour one out for the real heros

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rumba 4 points 3 months ago

yeah, Ubuntu has a command-not-found handler. it sets up .bashrc with /usr/lib/command-not-found when you miss a cli match.

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Renat 6 points 3 months ago

I once unistalled edge and now Teams app doesn't work too. So I unistalled it too. Now I use Teams on Firefox

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Zink 6 points 3 months ago

That strategy works when you uninstall Windows too. :D

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ghen 1 point 2 months ago

Teams on Firefox for me doesn't recognize my perfectly functional webcam that every other meeting software uses just fine lol.

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Fedizen 3 points 3 months ago

Missed opportunity to draw a penguin face.

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myotheraccount 3 points 3 months ago

Just make sure to reinstall a bootloader before the next reboot. Or bring one one a USB stick when you need it. Or just copy me and boot me in a VM. What do I care? I'm just a kernel.

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Honytawk 3 points 3 months ago

Now imagine which one would work best for regular users.

The one that lets you do anything you like, or the one that protects the user from their own mistakes.

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PolarPirate 4 points 3 months ago

There's plenty of distros that don't let you destroy your system.

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Honytawk 2 points 3 months ago

Sure, but that is not what OP wants either.

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PolarPirate 3 points 2 months ago

There's plenty of distros that do let you destroy your system.

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XaetaCore 3 points 2 months ago

On Windows the OS pisses you off. On Linux the only one you can be mad at is yourself because Linux does exactly what you tell it todo

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zeca 3 points 3 months ago

I wanna update my arch with a single command/click, no confirms.

The whole forum: Nooooo!!! You're gonna break your system!! You'll regret this!! Nooooooooo!

Meanwhile 99% of people just spam yes at their terminal when updating and restore a snapshot when things don't work out.

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ttyybb 7 points 3 months ago

What's the point of a backup you don't load?

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zeca 2 points 3 months ago

exactly

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GreenBeanMachine 2 points 3 months ago
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BlackLaZoR 2 points 3 months ago

YESSS! YOUR SYSTEM WILL BREAK!!!

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GirthBrooksPLO 1 point 2 months ago

Linux: Pain will be your teacher.

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ZILtoid1991 1 point 3 months ago

Would this in theory allow me to switch from "legacy BIOS" boot to UEFI boot?

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aBundleOfFerrets 1 point 3 months ago

yes

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StarvingMartist 1 point 3 months ago

You can uninstall edge

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darkmogool 8 points 3 months ago

You can uninstall hide edge

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vinyl 4 points 3 months ago

on ltsc you can uninstall it like any other program

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EatingOnions 2 points 3 months ago

What does it even mean?

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ILikeBoobies 4 points 3 months ago

A different version of Windows, designed for enterprise customers.

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StarvingMartist 2 points 3 months ago

No you can actually uninstall edge, it's as simple as a GitHub script

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EatingOnions 6 points 3 months ago

I don't know now but years ago when I used to use windows you wouldn't be able to uninstall it

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StarvingMartist 0 points 3 months ago

Github

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Arachnidbrilliant -1 points 3 months ago
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