What’s behind the US army’s decision to raise enlistment age to 42?

6 months ago by HellsBelle to c/news

Changes in US Army enlistment standards could be an effort to boost recruitment as numbers have lagged in recent years.

The United States army announced last month that it would raise the maximum age at which Americans can enlist from 35 to 42 years to expand its pool of eligible candidates amid recruiting challenges in recent years.

An updated version of US Army Regulation 601–210, dated March 20, outlined the changes, including the elimination of rules requiring anyone with a single conviction for marijuana possession or drug paraphernalia to obtain a waiver to enlist.

The new age limit was announced during the US-Israel war on Iran, towards which young people have expressed widespread opposition.

The updated version of Army Regulation 601–210 officially takes effect on Monday, April 20.

wuffah 104 points 6 months ago

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neukenindekeuken 6 points 6 months ago

Kill all the bugs!!

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apfelwoiSchoppen 82 points 6 months ago

They can change enlistment age ranges that require little to no ID requirement but they demand very strict ID requirements for voting. They are telling us how they think of us as meat crayons.

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chaosCruiser 23 points 6 months ago

People who vote, might end up voting for the “wrong candidate”, and we can’t have that now can we. People who enlist, don’t really have the opportunity to screw up like that.

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DaMummy 2 points 6 months ago

Don't you worry your pretty little brain. The superdelegates will make the right choice for you.

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chaosCruiser 1 point 6 months ago

Exactly. Just trust the system, bro. It’ll be fine.

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Tollana1234567 3 points 6 months ago

and dying for israel too.

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Zahille7 55 points 6 months ago

Jesus fucking christ. Most people who are 42 actually look and act like it. This won't end well.

For instance I'm 29 and I do not have the body of a soldier. Never have, probably never will.

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Voroxpete 46 points 6 months ago

Canada's enlistment age has been up to 50 for quite some time now. Basic gets you into shape... Or it doesn't, and you fail out.

In the grand scheme of things this really doesn't seem like a big deal. I think it's newsworthy because it reflects a clear anxiety in the US Military about their inability to fill their recruitment numbers, but beyond that It's not really all that unusual.

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JordanZ 16 points 6 months ago
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Voroxpete 12 points 6 months ago

And that's an actual problem. That's kind of my point; why are people fixating on largely meaningless things like recruitment age, instead of very real problems like ditching mental resiliency training?

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Holytimes 4 points 6 months ago

No one talks about mental resiliency training and most people who would willing join the military are too fucking retarded or desperate to understand or care.

It also makes for shit headlines cause it doesn't induce enough fear.

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anomnom 11 points 6 months ago

My body looks the right shape at almost 50, but my knees and shoulders would be fucked carrying the loads they require in infantry training. Probably also my back.

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village604 3 points 6 months ago

Good news is you don't need very much training to be drone fodder.

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k0e3 1 point 6 months ago

It has? I wonder if I can enlist as an interpreter.

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Voroxpete 2 points 6 months ago

There's always call for all kinds of specialized trades. You have to be able to handle the core discipline requirements (just don't be a fuck up, basically) and you need to able to pass the FORCE test by the end of your basic training, which is a moderately hard physical exam. You can look up the requirements online. After that, if you're not combat arms it's basically just an office job but in uniform. You work 8 to 4, get summer and winter leave (something like 8 weeks total per year), plus usually 4 day long weekends if your command doesn't suck, guaranteed annual pay increases, probably a signing bonus if you go into an in-demand trade, and potentially access to subsidized military housing. If you don't get subsidized housing, you'll get a cost of living allowance which is based on where you're posted; for somewhere like Ottawa or Toronto it can be a few thousand a month on top of your pay.

It's definitely not for me, but honestly there are far, far worse jobs out there.

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k0e3 2 points 6 months ago

whoaaa thanks so much for the info!! I live in Japan now and wanna move back for my kids to be able to experience Canada, but find it so damn hard because I dunno what kind of jobs there are and it's just so damn expensive there now. I'm seriously considering giving it a shot if it helps me and my family resettle in Canada. Again, thanks so much for the info.

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tristynalxander 2 points 6 months ago
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k0e3 1 point 6 months ago

Sorry I can't read that. Could you translate it to Canadian English?

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SeductiveTortoise 13 points 6 months ago

I had the body of a soldier, but it took too much space in the freezer.

Yeah, I didn't want to die for an idiot government in my 20s, but now I don't want to and am not getting up and into a warzone. I'm too old for this shit and I'm already in my pajamas. And my feetsies hurt from walking too much and I'm full of cheese.

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Entertainmeonly 1 point 6 months ago

Full of cheese you say? Do you know what day of the week it is?

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SeductiveTortoise 1 point 6 months ago

Wensleyday?

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Entertainmeonly 1 point 6 months ago

Oh nos, the confusion has set in. 🤭

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BarneyPiccolo 10 points 6 months ago

I don't care if a bunch of self-delusional 40 year old MAGAs think they're tough enough to go kill all those weak Iranians, and end up getting themselves killed. The more the merrier, as far as I'm concerned.

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Retail4068 -28 points 6 months ago

Most 40 year olds are just fine. Bitching about a back and being slower doesn't make you unable to fight my man. Y'all yeah take the Internet to seriously.

Second modern warfare isn't living in a trench on the front advancing back and forth, your not marching absurd amounts of gear. Most are hunkered down with drones and a laptop.

Idiotic conversation that we're having, but let's not pretend that most of these people will tell the government to fuck off and jail me or sabotage the effort. Thats going to be the actual issue.

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Eat_Your_Paisley 15 points 6 months ago

The biggest branch in the US Army is infantry and they carry a bunch of shit and move around quite a bit.

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AnchoriteMagus 10 points 6 months ago

Confidently incorrect is the best kind of incorrect.

Tell me you a) haven't paid attention to any modern conflict taking place on earth right now, and b) you've never actually done any of it yourself, without telling me.

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Dozzi92 3 points 6 months ago

There's plenty of jobs in the military that aren't fighting on the front lines. US power at war is derived from its logistics. Need people to drive trucks, get water, build shit. USMC has over 300 jobs, but 03 jobs are essentially the ones considered front lines. They always throw the 10% number around, 10% do the fighting while 90% support.

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AnchoriteMagus 10 points 6 months ago

And 90% of logistics is moving heavy things long distances.

I've never met a single service person, in both my 10 years in and since, who didn't have to carry heavy shit. The whole military mindset is "Don't use a machine to do what human bodies can do with a little effort."

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youcantreadthis 9 points 6 months ago

modern warfare isnt

Clearly not kept up on reports from ukraine.

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stoly 6 points 6 months ago

LOL people under the age of 40 downvoted you, my guess. Are you the same as you were at 25 when you hit 45? No. Are you old and invalid? Also no.

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Voroxpete 4 points 6 months ago

Bitching about a back and being slower doesn't make you unable to fight my man.

I'm actually pretty sure both of those are listed as prerequisites for getting your first hook.

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RedRibbonArmy 43 points 6 months ago

Exploiting poor millennials aka millennials.

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Whats_your_reasoning 2 points 6 months ago

As if we haven't already had to sacrifice enough, now they want our lives directly on the line. Hey, you know all those years your spent paying off ludicrous college debt at shitty low-paying jobs, living in unaffordable housing, pushing back starting families? Well, now that you've finally found your footing, we want you to upend everything you've been fighting uphill for and take on a new fight you didn't ask for! The country that's done nothing to help you, but that has demanded you to give more and more over the course of decades (and that shit on your generation for taking so long to meet adult milestones through no fault of your own), now needs your blood for yet another pointless war.

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Tollana1234567 -1 points 6 months ago

milleneals are likely aged out of the services, at least most of them. gen z is thier target, and upcoming alpha EVENTUALLY.

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FudgyMcTubbs 6 points 6 months ago

The fuck are you talking about? Im an older Millennial/Xennial and im 42. That means the bulk of the Millennials are younger to much younger than I am. The birth years are roughly 1981-96.

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tristynalxander 1 point 6 months ago
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Entertainmeonly 3 points 6 months ago

Your math ain't mathing

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active_rooster 39 points 6 months ago

not enough fools willing to die for the Epstein cause?

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kreskin 33 points 6 months ago

Just use the ICE agents for this. They already have all the gear.

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megopie 7 points 6 months ago

Problem is that most of them would fail qualifications.

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SarahFromOz 6 points 6 months ago

This way we get two birds stoned at once!

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MonkderVierte 2 points 6 months ago

Don't feed marihuana to your birds.

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Janx 2 points 6 months ago

That's just water under the fridge.

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MonkderVierte 5 points 6 months ago

ICE is reserved for domestic terrorism. You need professionals over there.

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FosterMolasses 3 points 6 months ago

They'll have to crunch the numbers and see which is more profitable

Wouldn't be surprised if they resort to eventually "redirecting their resources"

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P00ptart 5 points 6 months ago

And more than enough training to die for their country.

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Tollana1234567 1 point 6 months ago

they would probably turn on each other before that happens.

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ChaoticEntropy 22 points 6 months ago

It's almost like the younger generations don't feel keen to join whatever misadventure their nation wants to go on during their service. Especially given the high likelihood that they'll be involved in supporting/committing fairly unambiguous war crimes and genocide. They've also watched generation after generation of veterans get sold down the river... how could they resist.

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treadful 6 points 6 months ago

[The younger generations] also watched generation after generation of veterans get sold down the river…

General Benjamin Button probably wouldn't work out, anyway.

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Tollana1234567 2 points 6 months ago

read an article about the enlistment problems back '24, most are still preparing for college, and they see even some min wage jobs have better pay then the military, and better hours. why have shit hours and low pay and very restrictive requirements, when you can have part time job that pays more. maybe works in rural areas where theres practically no jobs, instead more middle income neighborhoods.

the militaryganda movies did help enlistment somehwat(aka top gun maverick)

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hanrahan 18 points 6 months ago

here I am at 61, as fit as any 59 year old !

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Witchfire 15 points 6 months ago

War profiteering. Follow the money

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HeroicBillyBishop 14 points 6 months ago

not enough fodder

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Chais 4 points 6 months ago

More meat for the grinder.

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samus12345 7 points 6 months ago

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Scottyc65 14 points 6 months ago

They are going to need bodies for the Iran ground invasion and they need to expand the pool of possible recruits/draftees.

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P00ptart 13 points 6 months ago

Jesus fuck, I wonder if the reenlistment age went up too? Apparently now I could enlist for a first time, even if I hadn't before. I can't imagine doing that shit at my age.

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Sturgist 11 points 6 months ago

I just turned 40 a few months ago. Luckily I'm Canadian and live in the UK, so this doesn't affect me....however my knees and back ache just thinking about it....

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vaultdweller013 5 points 6 months ago

Hell I'm 26 and my knee aches at the concept of this. I could probably ignore it but it still wouldn't be fun.

My knee is fucked from a badly judged jump in boy scouts when I was 14 or something, word of advice don't blindly jump through bushes there may be a perfectly angled rock sitting there waiting to fuck you up.

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Sturgist 3 points 6 months ago

word of advice don't blindly jump through bushes there may be a perfectly angled rock sitting there waiting to fuck you up.

Oh, you sweet summer child. There's no "may be" about it. It's there, yearning for blood!

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Buelldozer 3 points 6 months ago

A comment up above says that in Canada the age limit is 50.

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Sturgist 4 points 6 months ago

Good thing I live in the UK then

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Holytimes 1 point 6 months ago

Eh give it time, I'm sure good ol england will bring back press gangs for the navy.

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youcantreadthis 0 points 6 months ago

You can still die. Thats all they need from you.

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P00ptart 1 point 6 months ago

If you just go there and die immediately, you're of no use. You have to make somebody suffer first. Don't ask me why, I don't make the rules.

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youcantreadthis 1 point 6 months ago

Dead sokdiers politically useful.

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tristynalxander 1 point 6 months ago
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Sturgist 1 point 6 months ago

Meh, they can get fucked. I'll Conscientious Objector, or resort to sabotage. I'll fight for the abolition of the state, or against a US invasion of Canada on my own, but I'll never willingly be a foot for the Imperialist boot.

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youcantreadthis 3 points 6 months ago

In the words of ny fav canadian prog/post rock band: "we support the troops when they kill their officers"

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FungiEnjoyer 12 points 6 months ago

Oh shit I'm in the age bracket again? at least I'm trans I guess 🤷

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Holytimes 3 points 6 months ago

That just means your disappeared and sent to the gulag when your draft notice comes.

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Etterra 12 points 6 months ago

They think endless war is the solution to the question of life, the universe, and everything.

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HellsBelle 2 points 6 months ago

I thought that answer was 42?

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M0oP0o 2 points 6 months ago

42 years of war, seems a bit short for the us.

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Gammelfisch 10 points 6 months ago

What is the average age of the ICE shitbags?

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ImitationLimitation 5 points 6 months ago

Overweight and low IQ… oh wait, that want the question.

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FosterMolasses 8 points 6 months ago

Good luck to all my fellow tricenarians! At least there's no draft (yet)

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BrianTheeBiscuiteer 8 points 6 months ago

Somewhat relieved and disappointed I missed the cut. At my age, at this moment, I would consider it a sign from God if I got drafted. Hegseth and I worship different Gods I should add.

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Sunflier 7 points 6 months ago

I'm betting this will also increase the age limit for conscription. It's also the upper end of the Millennials' age bracket. Millennials and younger are overwhelmingly anti-Republican.

If I were a Republican president, Republicans were historically unpopular with Millennials and younger, I implimented a new war, had a new group that attaches voter registration and social media commentary to individual identity, and I was fearing an upcoming Republican wipe out, I'd probably draft a bunch of millenials and younger who I knew were against me into the war I just started so as to have the enemy's machine-gun fire kill off my opposition.

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BussyGyatt 2 points 6 months ago

bro thats fucking psychotic why would you do that. couldnt you just like, do your job instead

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Sunflier 7 points 6 months ago

bro thats fucking psychotic why would you do that

As if it wouldn't be surprising from the Republicans? They HATE us.

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BussyGyatt 1 point 6 months ago

look, alls im sayin is, please dont become a republican president.

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Sunflier 1 point 6 months ago

Ha! As if any of us would be welcomed anywhere near the presidency, especially after NSPM-7.

Well, theres one group of very fine people he'd welcome:

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Zugyuk 4 points 6 months ago

They wanted to make sure don jr could serve /s

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Tollana1234567 3 points 6 months ago

likely someone like karp, thiel, or the bigtech are behind, given how they have been pretty verbose about it.

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bstix 3 points 6 months ago

It would make sense to reverse the enlistment age so they'd start from the oldest and the lower it.

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Renat 1 point 6 months ago

And Trump will be one of the first people on this list.

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Formfiller 1 point 6 months ago

Who’s dumb enough to need to read an article to know the reason?

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Abrinoxus 1 point 6 months ago

It's the meaning of life, the universe and everything?

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