I hear tell that the claims are from people with low fiber diets, who suddenly have to deal with fiberful foods.
(I heard it on the Internet, and so now I repeat it on the Internet and let others handle the fact checking!)
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Viking_Hippie 8 points 4 months ago
If you ask nicely
UnimportantHuman 17 points 4 months ago
Yeah Mexican food doesn't give me shits (mexican ancestry might help) but having a Japanese bidet is nice.
Shit people can get one for less than $100 dollars. I've been trying to get my fellow Americans on the same page. I once had a coworker call a foreign coworker nasty cuz he used a portable bidet at work. People here are insane. I can hardly get myself to take a work poop because there are no bidets at work.
spacesatan 6 points 4 months ago
Insolife is good. The cheaper ones on amazon are useless. I think modding a water flosser probably has potential as a budget option, some people freak out at the idea because it sounds super intense but if you ever spray one on your wrist they aren't nearly as strong as it feels on your gums.
UnimportantHuman 3 points 4 months ago
My coworkers device was a water bottle with a small hole in the lid.
jqubed 5 points 4 months ago
I take lactase enzyme tablets and alpha galactosidase enzyme tablets (Beano) to break down the complex sugars in dairy and beans and it normally prevents any problems. A nutritionist told me once that most beans have some complex sugars that humans can’t normally digest, and when those ferment in the digestive tract it can cause problems, but the alpha galactosidase takes care of it.
shawn1122 5 points 4 months ago
There are many reasons but one is that modern European cuisine (over the past several centuries) generally looked down upon spice.
I've always wondered if Hot Ones was a concerted effort to broaden the horizons of those who were traditionally opposed to spice.
captainlezbian 2 points 4 months ago
Idk I feel like buffalo wings as a whole were part of the American rediscovery of piquancy. Tex mex and Mexican food proliferating around the same time also contributed. It was all boomer era shifts. Idk if it was gen x or millenials where Indian food really became popular for most people, but Thai and other spicy Asian foods also have been rising in popularity. Hell when I was a kid Chinese restaurants had a few spicy options, now many have a few non spicy options.
Idk if Cajun will ever rise from its position where a lot of people like elements of it, but it's definitely a bold thing to suggest a group of friends go out to get, but it is a US original cuisine that prides itself on being spicy.
Also vinegar based cayenne pepper hot sauces have been reasonably popular for a long time. I hear that started with smokers wanting to be able to taste their food.
Bluescluestoothpaste 2 points 4 months ago
In Spain and Italy they eat a lot of spicy food. Probably other countries too, but the stereotype is that all European food is as bland as English food or something.
shawn1122 5 points 4 months ago
It's a stereotype that's the reverse of the stereotype explained in the article. In most of Europe, perhaps with select exceptions, nobles looked down on the use of spices in cuisine when they became accessible to ordinary folk via colonialism. That led to a bit of an elitist attitude against spice which was the attitude I feel was the mainstream even as recently as the 90s in settler colonial nations from those of European descent. The vibe was, to be brief and blunt "don't eat that you'll never stop shitting" and real food is steak, casserole, meatloaf or whatever.
The reversal of that stereotype, since the Europeans that generally looked down on spice only make up 20% of the global population and most other regions enjoy it, was to say "no actually you're the one with the bland food, it's not that our food is too spicy".
There's exaggeration on both fronts but it's interesting to see these different perspectives. Both have evolved over time.
Trevor Noah does a funny bit in his most recent standup where MLK Jr and his buddies go to a white diner - for the first time after ending segregation - and after having the (relatively) bland chicken, question everything they fought for.
BeUnique 4 points 4 months ago
Spicy food is worth the pain and suffering that it causes for sure! My bowels absolutely hate hot sauce no matter what I do! The cheaper the spice (think dehydrated red peppers), the worst the experience. That being said, I still put globs of my favorite habanero sauce on my food twice a week at minimum then dealing with the consequences the next morning! Buying a bidet really enabled me to shrug off my horrible dietary decisions even more than I already did, it's an absolute lifesaver!
Bluescluestoothpaste 3 points 4 months ago
Spice capsaicin really doesn't irritate your bowels, it's all the fried stuff that does.
wonderingwanderer 2 points 4 months ago
Sounds like you don't eat it spicy enough
a_non_monotonic_function 1 point 4 months ago
With enough hot sauce anything is possible.
Gloomy 53 points 4 months ago
I am a european in my 40s and have never, ever, encountered a shit like described here.
Every time i read about it i wander if it's because i am just not exposed to the specific food causing it, or if americans just eat so much unhealthy stuff that their digestive system is just fucked up for good. And to this day i don't know the answer.
blattrules 38 points 4 months ago
I’m American and have never had an issue eating Mexican food and I eat it like three times per week. It’s just a bullshit, hack joke rooted in racism that somehow still proliferates.
Dozzi92 9 points 4 months ago
Yeah, the only time it makes sense is when you go to Mexico and get Montezuma's revenge because I guess my American digestive tract is weak af. My brother lived in Mexico City for a few years. First time I thought it was a bad hangover. Second time thought I ate something funny. Third time I accepted it. And that was it, so apparently you just gotta accept it.
PoopingCough 10 points 4 months ago
Usually that's caused by different water when traveling. Often not even bad water, just different.
Dozzi92 3 points 4 months ago
Right, just different amoebas and whatnot, if I can put on my science hat. I either eventually got used to it or successfully avoided the water, but we will unfortunately never know for sure.
blattrules 2 points 4 months ago
Ah true, good point. Maybe that’s where it comes from.
Bluescluestoothpaste 2 points 4 months ago
There's Mexican food and "mexican" food. Taco bell should be illegal it's a gastrointestinal crime.
EvilHankVenture 20 points 4 months ago
I am an American in my 40s and I've never encountered it either. I eat a lot of Mexican food and a lot of spicy food from different cultures as well, so maybe I'm just acclimated? I feel like for some of these people the spiciest food they ever eat is taco bell and it just destroys them.
RattlerSix 3 points 4 months ago
Same. I don't eat a ton of spicy food but when I do everything's normal afterward.
NikkiDimes 17 points 4 months ago
I live in the US, I don't understand this either. I've never experienced these purported issues. I'm guessing either I have a stronger than usual stomach or it's just played up for the memes?
Evil_Shrubbery 4 points 4 months ago
I saw it referenced for example in South Park, and I don't think South Park would lie about American lore like that.
Maybe you are mistaken, or perhaps just lack a good reference point & don't know how the rest of the world shits.
(/s)
PmMeFrogMemes 7 points 4 months ago
that South Park episode was clowning on a chipotle ecoli incident I'm p sure
Evil_Shrubbery 2 points 4 months ago
Poor Cartman, I can still hear his screams ...
NikkiDimes 2 points 4 months ago
Hey, I am a dirty immigrant after all, you might be right 😝
Evil_Shrubbery 4 points 4 months ago
Oh, so you are saying you know how to shit better & therefore you think you are better than the rest of Murikans, do you?!
You have no idea how it is to spend 3 hours evey day continuously powerblasting the toilet & then still muster the strength to again visit the same dirty fast food joint responsible for the jet propulsion formula that can kill you at any moment by spontaneously launching you into orbit!!!
surewhynotlem 15 points 4 months ago
95% of Americans don't get their recommended daily amount of fiber. So when they finally do have beans, it's an experience.
awfulawful 3 points 4 months ago
I think specifically the oligosaccharides in beans that, if your digestive system has not been accustomed to, will be unpleasant if you all of a sudden ingest a lot of. Also poorly prepared beans that have not been sufficiently soaked, etc. to draw these out.
Passerby6497 7 points 4 months ago
It probably boils down to people not getting enough fiber and beans end up acting like colon blow.
SaharaMaleikuhm 6 points 4 months ago
I have this rule that Americans are always wrong. Works out well 80% of the time I'd say. Good enough to live by it
NottaLottaOcelot 3 points 4 months ago
I’m a Canadian in my 40s and a regular once-a-day shitter. I have not experienced a shit so violent that I have destroyed a toilet. However, I have enjoyed Thai food so spicy that my asshole burned.
Gloomy 5 points 4 months ago
Yeah, i get that. It's just that we, on the other side of the pond, also sometimes eat rely spicy food without being exposed to it on a regular basis. And still, have yet to hear or read about this from single non american.
maccentric 3 points 4 months ago
Most Wasabi served in restaurants is actually horseradish. Real wasabi is definitely milder and also more interesting tasting.
FudgyMcTubbs 2 points 4 months ago
Ya know what's fun, is I'm just not sure I care if it's wasabi or horseradish. The green shit that i dab on my sushi rolls tastes great and unique, and the burn hits me right between the eyes. Give me the non-descript green shit, please.
BillyClark 1 point 4 months ago
You made me suspect there's probably somebody out there who mixes a lot of wasabi into their natto.
Rozauhtuno 34 points 4 months ago
I lowkey hate this stereotype that Mexican food makes people sick. If all the "Mexican" food you ever ate is from some shitty fast food place, that's on you.
anotherspinelessdem 17 points 4 months ago
I don't think it's about making people sick but rather so spicy the cracker body can't handle it because of their typically bland diets.
captainlezbian 7 points 4 months ago
Yeah, I didn't start liking spicy food until I was a teenager/adult and when I started eating it regularly there was a bit of a reckoning until my body adapted.
That said I think it's a combination of spicy and lots of beans. If you don't get enough fiber in your daily diet your meal every few weeks that includes an appropriate amount will cause some gastrointestinal discomfort.
manuremy 6 points 4 months ago
I live in an area that has no Mexican restaurants, Northern Europe, so I have searched for recipes and made them myself (well, tried my best obviously) and no sickness at all. I guess this myth is just about fastfood or restaurants' hygiene levels? (EDIT; And racism?)
captainlezbian 8 points 4 months ago
Beans and capsaicin. If your daily diet is low fiber low spiciness a meal that's spicy and high fiber will do that to you.
For comparison consider the "traditional" diet of the American Midwest. It's largely casseroles from canned goods, with large amounts of dairy. The plants involved are often pasta, potatoes, carrots, or canned. You also have cut of meat + fried potato. It's a diet high in sodium and fat and low in fiber and where piquancy is delivered in a dash of pre ground pepper. It's the sort of diet you'd recommend to someone who would rather schedule a day for their bowel movements rather than spending less time more frequently (and easily) on the task. This is rarely how people eat every day even there anymore, and it's an extreme example, but it's not that far off of (white) poverty food in much of the US.
To someone with a diet even resembling what I just described, a dish with lots of beans, some rice, veggies, and some kick to it can very easily overwhelm your digestive system.
Then you add some racism in to generalize it in a way associated with food in poorer countries, and add in the fact that Mexico is the most common place for Americans to get travelers diarrhea (often called "Montezuma's revenge" here).
All these issues are really easy to blend together in your head if you're the sort of person who normally eats like crap and doesn't do research before taking a vacation to Mexico.
SwissArmyKazoo 2 points 4 months ago
They clearly haven't went to Pujol.
Several a social homebodoes experience with Latino Cuisine came mostly from Doritos and Taco Bell.
000 32 points 4 months ago
Skill issue. Literally have never had any problems with Mexican, Indian, or any other non-european food. I think people who have had issues are more likely to speak about it, causing this warped perception. Maybe your stomach isn't equipped to handle this stuff? If a billion plus people can live with these cuisines, then maybe let's not blame the cuisines
FudgyMcTubbs 3 points 4 months ago
For me, it depends on the spice level. The more adventurous i am at the dinner table the worse off I am in the bathroom the next day. Worth it tho.
wrinkledoo 7 points 4 months ago
It's either beans, spice, or grease. They get more fiber than normal, they get some exceptionally spicy food, or more grease than normal. And the grease is only if they get taco bell or some other shitty "tex-mex" food.
protogen420 3 points 4 months ago
I never understood this relation of spicy food with a bad time in toilet, do people feel the spicy saucen when pooping? I dont
Endymion_Mallorn 19 points 4 months ago
BS they don't have Mexican food. They've imported a lot of Mexican culture if their media is anything to go by.
BillyClark 4 points 4 months ago
Fine... you can take the high road. I'll take the low.
More like "take a shita street".
(By the way, Takeshita means "under the bamboo" in Japanese.)
farmgineer 4 points 4 months ago
It's getting easier to find, but it was really hard for years. Even if you find a place that does Mexican (or TexMex or CaliMex), the menus tend to be limited and it tends to be expensive. I think the place I go in my nearest big city (Sendai) has tacos that are only a few cm in diameter and like 500 JPY each (pre-tax median annual salary is < 5 million JPY).
I found one place that did decent TexMex in Tokyo and it really went downhill after corona IMO. Not only did the menu get smaller, the prices went up.
FudgyMcTubbs 1 point 4 months ago
Dude.... Have you tried papusas yet? Not Mexican but, ya know, south of the USA. They're so friggin good.
Mexican food and tacos are just scratching the surface of Latin American food. It's all so good and so different.
farmgineer 1 point 4 months ago
I had them once when I was living in Houston, TX, USA. Unfortunately, I can't have gluten-containing foods anymore so anything wheat-/flour-based is out. Thankfully, I can get corn tortillas. I mostly just cook things at home, these days.
I've eaten at a few Peruvian restaurants as well and I'm sure other countries that aren't coming to mind right now. I just mentioned Mexican (and derivatives/fusions) as that was what the post was talking about.
Not_mikey 2 points 4 months ago
I'd say it's about as prevalent there as Vietnamese food is here in the US. Mid and large cities will definitely have it but outside there the best you'll get is maybe they'll have some tacos or quesadillas at an "American" restaurant, similar to how there'll be an "asian" restaurant in town that might serve one or two Vietnamese dishes.
Endymion_Mallorn 2 points 4 months ago
And where I'm at, I can think of two pho places.
EvilHankVenture 1 point 4 months ago
I pass 3 pho places when I'm walking my dog. Gotta love the Pacific Northwest.
cogitase 18 points 4 months ago
I used to go to a fantastic Mexican place in Fukuoka in the 2000s whenever I went from Korea to Japan. The owner, who worked in a restaurant in Mexico City for years, had this wall of hot sauces and tequilas behind the bar. All the sauces were free to try and he’d give you a shot of tequila on the house too occasionally.
OldChicoAle 6 points 4 months ago
Americans need more fiber and flavor in their daily lives.
wonderingwanderer 5 points 4 months ago
TIL taco rice doesn't count as Mexican...
wonderingwanderer 5 points 4 months ago
An Okinawan specialty. Imagine taco bell, but better, and instead of taco shells, it's served over white rice (good white rice by the way, Japan doesn't fuck around with shitty rice).
farmgineer 2 points 4 months ago
I'll agree that it's better than taco bell, but that's a really, really low bar. I've never found taco rice to be that good (within Okinawa or otherwise); it's not terrible or anything, but often very bland.
wonderingwanderer 1 point 4 months ago
I guess that depends where you get it from. I've had bland taco rice too, but find the right hole-in-the-wall stand (literally, like the places where it's just a window in the side of the building and you walk up and order without going inside), and it can be really good.
Ultimately it's just rice, lettuce, taco meat, sauce, and cheese. So if those ingredients are quality, it's gonna be quality; and if not, not. The biggest difference often boils down to the sauce, but of course some lettuce/cheese/etc. is better than others...
mojofrododojo 3 points 4 months ago
I mean some sushi can give you food poisoning if it’s not prepared right
any food can give you food poisoning if it's not prepared correctly. undercooked hamburgers can kill you just as easily as tuna sashimi.
BeUnique 4 points 4 months ago
They do however have Thai food... I'd argue that Thai food is worse than Mexican food when it comes to "hot shits" because the fiber comes from vegetables and hot sauce instead of beans and hot sauce. Meaning there's nothing dense to soften the blow that your asshole is about to experience. I also believe this is why all Thai people are so thin! The food literally goes right through them!
mynona 4 points 4 months ago
Just to note on fiber, there's a number of thai ingredients such as fragrant leafs that are added for smell and not to eat. Most of us eat around these but literally if you eat these add ins combined with the fantastic amount of bird beak peppers we love, you're going to have an interesting day. Another example, the number of seeds alone that you can find in some ส้มตำ is almost comparable to a chia flax smoothie. In my opinion the number of fresh plants is not something found in many other cuisines.
Eating like this may not even be possible for every meal, best start your day with a nice fried egg with rice to recover, you know. (Drizzle with chili vinegar fish sauce to survive until your next glorious meal)
BeUnique 0 points 4 months ago
Sounds wonderful! My go to us Pad See Ew when I'm eating Thai. I learned how to make it when all of my Thai restaurants closed down during the pandemic and I got pretty good at it! I'm now sort of a snob about the dish knowing when it's not made correctly...
Hot Thai Kitchen in YT has a wealth of knowledge that she provides to make authentic Thai food and as a bonus she's gorgeous!
fritobugger2017 3 points 4 months ago
There are some good Mexican, Thai, and Indian places that will gladly give you all the fire your ass can handle.
bridgeburner 3 points 4 months ago
Better comparison for the second part would be: "What's the point of having a Ferrari if u don't live in germany" (cos we got no implicit speed limits on the Autobahn if one isn't explicitly mentioned)
MonkderVierte 3 points 4 months ago
Bragging.
Dagnet -17 points 4 months ago
Unless you are a girl using a public toilet, then its the worst toilet I've ever seen in the world (didnt see it myself but my family told me, its terrible)
EDIT: nice downvotes, like the other guy commented, there are squat toilets there, specially if you go to not so touristy areas.
wizardbeard 9 points 4 months ago
It depends on if it's an old style (squat over the hole on the ground) or a European style one. In hotels at least, the European/American style toilets have bidets, seat heaters, some play music, etc.
farmgineer 3 points 4 months ago
In Japan over a decade here. There are still a lot of places with squat toilets and some people suck at using any toilets and are gross. I would not be surprised about this, particularly at a drinking establishment late at night.
farmgineer 3 points 4 months ago
My wife and I did a lot of travel so far this year. A ton of places, particularly more rural ones, had squat toilets. Even bars we went to in bigger cities would have them. Even when we lived in Tokyo, some places I used to frequent had them. It really just depends on the area.
Dagnet 1 point 4 months ago
Why would I, a man, go inside of a female public bathroom to confirm something my own mother and sister told me after leaving said public toilet? Learn to not talk like an asshole
glimse 3 points 4 months ago
When were they there and where did they go? IIRC it hasn't been the norm there in a VERY long time and now the only places you see them are in very old buildings. I did some traveling there 10 years ago and didn't come across a single squat toilet
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The real tragedy is countries with Mexican food not having Japanese toilets.
I never understood the claims about Mexican food causing explosive shits but I do understand why those with weak stomachs keep trying to eat it anyway.
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