This is literally the most polarised comment section I've seen. Both sides of the argument for and against the killing are getting downvotes out the wazoo

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Martineski 12 points 6 days ago

There: 🫴🔪

Pick your side.

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Wizard_Pope 12 points 6 days ago

I am for smacking the seagulls. One smack is enough. Beating it to death or slamming into a wall is overkill.

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jerkface 4 points 6 days ago

It's still senseless, while being willfully cruel and violent; it's just a smaller magnitude in the same wrong direction.

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Wizard_Pope 10 points 6 days ago

I don't think so. It's my food and if a seagull comes in to steal it it's getting smacked away. It is the way of life. You think a different animal would let a seagull steal its food? I doubt it. And my benevolence only stretches so far.

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MrPoletki 1 point 5 days ago

Oh, absolutely.

Beating it to death is 'overkill' though if your intention was simply to 'make it sorry'.

Tbh, reading this thread it seems like a lot of people don't feel able to pull their punch accurately enough to both make a seagull regret taking your food and not injure it in the process.

I mean, if you're really angry, and you've physically caught it, what's wrong with screaming in it's face then throwing it into the air. It'll be off like a bat out of hell after that.

But at the end of the day, it's a bit of food, not even worth doing the above either but I guess it depends on your anger management skills.

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tomiant 0 points 5 days ago

You underestimate the resilience of wild animals. A slap will only do them good.

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Frenchgeek 3 points 5 days ago

On the other hand: It will never steal anything ever again.

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baltakatei 4 points 5 days ago

Okay, Ender Wiggin.

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MrPoletki 0 points 5 days ago

I hate to be that guy but beating it to death is 'kill'.

Beating it to death, then continuing to beat it some more... that is 'overkill'

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Wilco 1 point 5 days ago

No, its a message to its friends.

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tomiant 1 point 5 days ago

40 bucks on the monkey in the blue fez!

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flamingos 2 points 5 days ago

I always forget how heated stuff about seagulls get. I do hope some people are just playing into the bit, because otherwise…

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tomiant 1 point 5 days ago

I'm fer it.

I'm again' it.

But I'm fer it.

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Truscape 13 points 7 days ago

Man's justified

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Malyca 12 points 6 days ago

Sometimes I think guys just aren't aware that you can't just kill things for stealing your chip

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tomiant -1 points 5 days ago

Sometimes I think you guys need to just be able to joke about shit.

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Lucidlethargy 9 points 7 days ago

Weird day on Lemmy when animal murder is being celebrated.

Killing animals (without eating them) is serial killer shit.

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Martineski 16 points 7 days ago

Eh, factory farming is messed up too even if you eat the bodies.

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NigelFrobisher 5 points 6 days ago

How do you know he didn’t eat it?

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pilferjinx 4 points 6 days ago

If any animal fucks around, they have to expect to find out. Feels like a golden rule situation.

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spacesatan 1 point 5 days ago

this community's mod officially approves of bigotry against people for their gender so I'm removing this comments content

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pilferjinx 1 point 5 days ago

It would depend on the situation I think. We just have a story to go on here and no direct awareness of the events as they unfolded. In your scenarios there's a different degree and intent in actions and reactions. But if I had to put down some general morality I would probably settle on equal, non excessive, reactions to establish personal boundaries. This entirely depends on the individual subjects though. One could have neurological or intellectual disorders for example.

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harmbugler 2 points 6 days ago

I always did think hippos had a serial killer quality

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NotASharkInAManSuit 1 point 6 days ago

You haven’t had to deal with seagulls and it shows.

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tomiant 0 points 5 days ago

DEATH TO ANIMALS!

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BarneyPiccolo 13 points 7 days ago

You can't do that? I thought it was pretty badass, actually.

I'm an animal lover, but seagulls are a different story. They're the MAGAs of the bird world, and it's okay to smack one around if you catch one stealing from you.

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certified_expert 31 points 7 days ago

They're the MAGAs of the bird world

lol

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Janx -5 points 6 days ago

That's... a wild take.

EDIT: Yeah, I guess they are.

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NotASharkInAManSuit 7 points 6 days ago

I grew up around the great salt lake where there are hordes of these mother fuckers, if you don’t despise them as the devil spawn that they are then you’ve never had to deal with them. I love animals, but I would support a seagull specific genocide.

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Doomsider 4 points 6 days ago

Wow, that got dark quick. From fuck seagulls to genocide in the blink of an eye.

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BarneyPiccolo 1 point 6 days ago

See, this guy gets it. [Fist bump]

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Linktank 6 points 5 days ago

How so exactly? Super loud, consume garbage, annoy everybody, nobody likes them. Seems fairly accurate.

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Janx 1 point 3 days ago

Okay. You've convinced me!

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tomiant -3 points 5 days ago

Would you say it's..... Unhinged?

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LePoisson 7 points 7 days ago

Nah they're protected species in the UK. Idk what the law looks like elsewhere. It does seem a little cruel to punch the bird and it not die and then leave it to go wander off and die from its internal injuries. I'd have more respect it dude just broke its neck and have it a quick death.

Kind of reminds me of Canadian geese in the USA, I wish I could kill those bastards but they're protected. I don't know if it's possible to get a license to kill them or not, depends on how they're protected and the legislation around it - I'm too lazy to bother with any of that and don't hunt so wouldn't go through the hoops anyways. Those things are a menace and mean as hell a lot of times but you just live with it.

I'm curious now though if the USA has protections for seagulls or not.

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LovableSidekick 5 points 7 days ago

Yes, all types of gulls are protected by US federal law.

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GarboDog 6 points 6 days ago

Seagulls and most other gull birds are not protected under federal law, however disrupting/modifying wildlife of any kind (including seagulls) without a permit is illegal. However on a state level some do protect many gulls including seagulls while also controlling their population to reduce nuisance.

Then you have places like Florida, where seagulls are not even protected under the local animal cruelty act. You could torture them for being the scavenger animals they are and not get into any trouble at all. It’s really sickening.

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zod000 3 points 6 days ago

As someone from Florida, this is a true, but once you have been the victim of, or seen families become victims of, a swarm of these assholes, you can understand people reacting violently. As another commenter said: I disagree, but I understand. For me personally, when I would go to the beach, if I saw 30+ seagulls sitting on the beach, I'd tell the kids "sorry, not today" and we'd leave. They are that bad.

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LovableSidekick 3 points 5 days ago

I'm not an ornithologist and have no idea how many species of gulls there are or whether they're all protected, but yes a number of gulls, if not all, are protected in the US by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 plus various amendments. There's a list here:

https://www.ecfr.gov/...

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blargh513 5 points 6 days ago

What? Why? There are literal flock of seagulls. We ain't gonna run out of em.

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iocase 4 points 6 days ago

Exactly! Are fucking rats protected under federal law now too?

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BarneyPiccolo 3 points 6 days ago

I ran. I ran so far away.

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CarstenBoll 4 points 6 days ago

In Denmark they're everywhere in the cities too, only thing more frequent then these shitbirds is rats.

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LovableSidekick 1 point 6 days ago

In seattle seagulls are rain forcasters. When you hear their cries, rain is usually on the way within an hour or two.

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LePoisson 4 points 6 days ago

Well there goes my dreams of building the ultimate gull crushing machine :(

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iocase 3 points 6 days ago

You can hunt Canadian geese in Canada ironically. They're apparently not bad eating and the bag limit is 2-4 depending on which province.

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jerkface 1 point 6 days ago

yes but you can only hunt them ironically.

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iocase 2 points 6 days ago

True. The nonironic bag limit is 0

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Cobrachicken 2 points 7 days ago

Oi!

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phoenixz 2 points 6 days ago

... Why do you have this need to harm animals for behaving like animals? Did your mother not love you or something?

Seriously, you think it's normal wanting to kill animals just because something a few of them did annoyed you?

They didn't attack you

They didn't shit all over you

And even if they did... It's animals doing their thing, just let them. Whatever you think these birds did to you I guarantee you that humanity has treated them a hundred times worse. If anything, birds do have a reason to kill us

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iocase 4 points 6 days ago

Found the Jainist

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Mpatch 2 points 6 days ago

You forget, we are animals. And deep inside we still have those primal moments. Where don't fuck with my chip or I'll fuck you into the afterlife.

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0x0 2 points 6 days ago

Why are you trying to lecture that animal about animals? Did he shit all over you?

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BarneyPiccolo -2 points 6 days ago

Seagulls are essentially rats in sailor suits, except a LOT more aggressive.

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OldChicoAle 6 points 6 days ago

So you're not really an animal lover

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Doomsider 2 points 6 days ago

Some animals are more equal than others

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jerkface -1 points 6 days ago

But you want to treat some animals as though they have no moral value whatsoever.

The gall of using Orwell for your self-deluding sophistry

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BarneyPiccolo 0 points 6 days ago

Mostly mammals.

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MrsDoyle 4 points 6 days ago

I was mugged by a gang of gulls in California. One swooped in and kicked over my fries, then the rest rushed in to grab what they could. A family at the next table rescued me. "Circle the wagons," the dad said.

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jerkface -7 points 6 days ago

I’m an animal lover

written with the flesh of vulnerable individuals still rotting between your teeth

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Doomsider 1 point 6 days ago

They have good taste, that is why they love them.

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jerkface -1 points 6 days ago

You taste exactly the same to me.

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Doomsider 1 point 6 days ago

I dunno, I am a bit old and sinewy to be honest. You probably want to cannibalize someone a bit tastier. Perhaps if you slow cook me it would turn out better.

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Jankatarch 11 points 6 days ago

Isn't this a sign of early psychopaths? To kill animals without remorse.

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HasturInYellow 11 points 6 days ago

No, they go looking for them.

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LadyButterfly 10 points 6 days ago

Crime of passion

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tomiant 2 points 5 days ago

The Passion of the Gull

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echodot 7 points 6 days ago

This is a sort of energy we need to be bringing to the US World cup. Give the cops something to really worry about.

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white_nrdy 1 point 6 days ago

Seems like a somewhat bad idea. US law enforcement don't get punished for murdering US citizens. They probably wouldn't care about using overly aggressive tactics for even benign situations.

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tomiant 1 point 5 days ago

...just like seagulls, the lot'ofem!

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the_riviera_kid 6 points 7 days ago

Seagull fucked around and found out.

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PennyRoyal 6 points 7 days ago

I nearly stamped on one of the wankers after it nicked my icecream yesterday

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tomiant 2 points 5 days ago

Nah that's on you. If you let it you let your guard down, that's stolen fair and square. Git gud noob, bet you couldn't even catch one, fatass.

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NaibofTabr 6 points 7 days ago

rats with wings

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P1k1e 7 points 7 days ago

Rats ain't nearly as loud about being a pest

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SleeplessCityLights 4 points 5 days ago

The people that are self righteous here should reevaluate eating meat if they eat meat. Most of your arguments could be made against butchering animals for food.

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000 1 point 3 days ago

Oh but that cruelty is outsourced, you see, that makes it "civilised"

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yakko 3 points 7 days ago

They are a protected species, you know

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iocase 6 points 6 days ago

I'm sure some of them are but they're an entire subfamily with dozens of genus and hundreds of species. Considering some are seemingly more common than rats, the chance he plucked an endangered one out of the air and punched it is really low.

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yakko 1 point 6 days ago

Good guess, but wide of the mark. While few species are on the red list, literally all wild birds in the UK are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981.

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tomiant 1 point 5 days ago

They wanna live they better snatch someone elses chip mate

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yakko 1 point 5 days ago

They can have mine, I could stand to skip a few

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davidagain 1 point 7 days ago

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