Oh I'm gonna wave some stuff at them.
Google will now verify if you're a human by turning on your webcam and asking you to wave your hand
2 months ago by Lemmynated to c/technology
ContactClosure 6 points 2 months ago
undefinedTruth 44 points 2 months ago
Don't worry, it will ask you to scan a QR code to complete the verification on your phone.
OutsideBoxYouMustThink 8 points 2 months ago
That made me chuckle
NewNewAugustEast 5 points 2 months ago
No phone. Now what?
possumparty 1 point 2 months ago
You're shit out of luck
wonderfulvoltaire 5 points 2 months ago
Jokes aside don't give them ideas
lazynooblet 31 points 2 months ago
They already do this
AwesomeLowlander 2 points 2 months ago
What's the joke?
TheSlad 2 points 2 months ago
I always buy the cheapest phone and usually they dont have built in qr code scanner. My current phone doesnt. And no, im not downloading some shitty feature-stuffed adware app just to scan qr codes
undefinedTruth 4 points 2 months ago
Slightly off topic, but if you need a QR code scanner there are really good open source ones available on F-Droid. Such is SecScanQR which I have been using for quite a while.
If you need a utility app chances are an open source one already exists. Avoid crapware from the Play Store.
thousandyardstare 1 point 2 months ago
Drink verification can
Chaunticleer 92 points 2 months ago
Absolutely not. Go fuck yourselves. There's not a person in the world who I would do this for.
VitoRobles 25 points 2 months ago
Came to say this. I'm not uploading my ID so I can check my emails. I'm not turning on a camera so I can log into a website.
Tiresia 34 points 2 months ago
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DudeImMacGyver 53 points 2 months ago
It can try, but I'm not doing that. I will stop using everything that requires it.
WhatAmLemmy 54 points 2 months ago
Yep. If the web requires ID to do anything I will only use it for banking and shit I already give my ID to. For everything else I'll just pirate, or use tor/I2P until they lock me up.
All these fascist criminal pedophiles that want to control us can suck a big fat bag of dicks.
MrTolkinghoen 6 points 2 months ago
Yep. We'll make our own internet. And it won't have recaptcha
RadicalRebel 10 points 2 months ago
Same!
dudesss 31 points 2 months ago
Even more reason to DeGoogle your computers
- https://f-droid.org/packages/dev.clombardo.dnsnet/
- https://grapheneos.org/ * https://postmarketos.org/
- https://www.fairphone.com/ * https://commerce.jolla.com/...
- https://librewolf.net/ * https://www.waterfox.com/
- https://codeberg.org/ironfox-oss/IronFox * https://f-droid.org/...
- https://www.ecosia.org/ * https://qwant.com/ * https://searxng.org/
- https://immich.app/ * https://nextcloud.com/
- https://www.comaps.app/ + https://f-droid.org/...
- https://signal.org/ * https://element.io/en
- https://chat.mistral.ai/chat
- https://bitwarden.com/ * https://joplinapp.org/
- https://www.qobuz.com/
- https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.email/ * https://f-droid.org/packages/com.fsck.k9/
- https://tuta.com/secure-email
UniversalBasicJustice 12 points 2 months ago
degoogle for privacy
still use AI chatbot
Bruh
foreverunsure 7 points 2 months ago
I think such an all-or-nothing mindset is exactly why people are staying on megacorp services. Besides, Mistral is much more transparent about its data collection, unlike Google, which makes you disable all chat history if you want to prevent training on your inputs.
UniversalBasicJustice 0 points 2 months ago
What do you use AI for?
UniversalBasicJustice 3 points 2 months ago
What is your use case for LLMs?
My mindset is all-or-nothing because I have yet to find a use for LLMs. Enlighten me, please.
spacesatan 3 points 2 months ago
AI chats are pretty good for finding leads on unknown unknowns when researching something new. Maybe it's just because of how much worse search engines are now but theyre also pretty good for troubleshooting when you don't have good keywords to narrow down the search effectively.
EatMyPixelDust 1 point 2 months ago
Reducing the user's cognitive abilities seems to be the main use of LLMs so far.
UniversalBasicJustice 3 points 2 months ago
A locally run LLM is a different story, one that I'm slightly more open to, but "trusting" any corp is how we got here. To me degoogling isn't just about moving away from Google but about removing myself from any nonessential service and limiting the data I share with essential services.
I also just plain don't know what I'd use any LLM for.
p03locke 3 points 2 months ago
I also just plain don’t know what I’d use any LLM for.
PewDiePie has been on a tear lately with recommending everybody switch to Linux and recently experimenting with LLMs. He put out a legit good local LLM project that showcases the different kinds of things you can do with a model.
My biggest LLM use cases have been:
- A replacement for search, since you typically need multiple searches and multiple sources to get the information you need
- Code generation, because it's so good at producing entire fully-featured utilities or just let it spin away at implementing some new functionality
- Helping me out with some random Linux error or difficulty, because support forums are fucking garbage
nightofmichelinstars 27 points 2 months ago
Privacy nightmare aside, is it just me or does this sound a lot less secure than the find the bus bullshit they do now? Seems like it would be much easier for a bot to generate a realistic looking hand wave than interpret increasingly obscure photo puzzles.
MrTolkinghoen 13 points 2 months ago
Well right. But they can't collect your photo and other data that way.
Lushed_Lungfish 19 points 2 months ago
Jokes on them, I have no webcam.
undefinedTruth 5 points 2 months ago
They can definetly use signals like VPN usage, not allowing third-party cookies and whatever else to force this verification mode if they want to. They may not be doing it right now but nothing prevents them.
irotsoma 4 points 2 months ago
It's reCAPTCHA. What "their garbage internet" are you referring to? The singular internet, the one you're on right now? reCAPTCHA is used on tons of websites. It used to be useful until Google turned it into a machine learning training tool rather than a bot filtering tool.
RamenJunkie 3 points 2 months ago
Its Google, they will try. "This is the only way to accesss your emails."
noxypaws 5 points 2 months ago
I still wouldn't want google capturing my body and my home even through the filter of sticky tape. even if it's pitch black, I can't rule out that they're not fingerprinting whatever they can find that's unique about my camera's sensor.
roserose56 8 points 2 months ago
And it says "When the hand gesture feature is enabled, reCAPTCHA collects the following data:".
When it gets forced, we talk again.
Frenchgeek 7 points 2 months ago
Can the AI identify which finger I'm waving too?
NewNewAugustEast 6 points 2 months ago
Web cam? I don't have one on my computer, what now?
Bebopalouie 6 points 2 months ago
If I have to do face verification at some point I am using a pic of Harold. I am almost 70.
unwarlikeExtortion 3 points 2 months ago
Doesn't AI work great for this, what with those AIs that turn Reddit mods into anime cosplayer girls?
MonkderVierte 1 point 2 months ago
Well, not me.
cerebralhawks -4 points 2 months ago
I have a Mac, so it has things like WiFi and Bluetooth that most Wintel boxes don’t tend to have. (I used to build PCs. I know those motherboards exist, and what it costs over base to get those features. So I know they exist and why they’re not common.) What it does not have is a camera. My MacBook has one, but any site that wants to use it needs to ask permission first. When I say no, it does not see the camera. It’s not saying “I see camera, can I use it” it’s asking “can I use camera?” An answer of no returns the message “no camera.”
I suspect it’s the same with all platforms. Meaning anyone who wants this can use it and the rest of us will just default to identifying sidewalks to train the cars.
deadcream 10 points 2 months ago
Chinese corporations and government have been doing this shit for years. Trying to use alipay on a trip to China was a dystopian nightmare lol. USA has only just started to catch up to them in terms of digital surveillance. This stuff and things like "Flock" that Americans are freaking out about right now are a completely normal fact of life over there.
Kirk -19 points 2 months ago
"Google has added Hand gesture verification functionality to reCAPTCHA"
This title is clickbait, if we want Lemmy to be a competitor to Reddit we need to be better moderated than they are, not worse. Please report this post and OP to your instance admins.
prole 20 points 2 months ago
Remember when Google told us that they didn't keep/listen to the recordings from their smart speakers, then we found out that was a complete fucking lie?
https://www.securitymagazine.com/...
So yeah no, fuck that.
frunch 3 points 2 months ago
Don't worry!! They said it again in the article OP posted, so we know we have nothing to worry about:
The videos are never associated with a user's identity and are deleted after the verification process. Audio is never recorded.
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