Eyekaytee 133 points a month ago

wasn’t that 4chan in general, it’s fun to post far right memes and jokes until the actual far right shows up and doesn’t know the difference

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Serinus 23 points a month ago

Mostly started very quickly in 2015.

I wonder how hard it is to infiltrate and influence an anonymous message board.

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Fizz 13 points a month ago

Considering trends are started by a single dedicated schizo I'd say not hard. I'm pretty sure one very dedicated person made fit and beyond believe onions boosted test.

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vithigar 5 points a month ago

...am I having a stroke? What does that last sentence mean?

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Fizz 3 points a month ago

Drinking raw onion juice boosts testosterone production apparently*

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starik 1 point a month ago

Are your serious or have you never drawn fit from of root? Lol

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noobface 4 points a month ago

Oh boy do I have a rabbit hole for you: https://archive.is/RvJdW

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Simulation6 4 points a month ago

Scan qr code to verify your human. Really?

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Eyekaytee 2 points a month ago

refresh and you should get the old pick the ones with traffic lights

funnily enough guy said they have it because otherwise wouldn’t be able to keep up with traffic

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 2 points a month ago

i mean i know two people who got sucked into WoW for years, to the point it became a major problem in their lives. they're both redhats so i just figured it was a small sample size thing.

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noobface 4 points a month ago

barrens chat was a psyop

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Grandwolf319 14 points a month ago

Pretty much my trajectory for making Nazi jokes. Used to be fun and edgy when I was younger, but once I found out there were actual Nazis these days, it was horrifying.

I can see why people stick to Roman jokes

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wonderingwanderer 10 points a month ago

Yeah, this doesn't excuse anything, but as a millennial growing up there was this whole trend of "dark humor" and "anti-jokes." Basically the more fucked up and wrong something was, the funnier it was supposed to be.

That doesn't make it okay, but we were just stupid teenagers. You could say we shoulda known better, but at the time that was just the trend. Like skibidi toilet and other brainrot today. Everyone knew it wasn't serious, that no one could actually mean those jokes.

At least, we thought we did. It seems as we grew up, we diverged into two main groups. Those who realized how those "jokes" could actually be harmful and grew out of it, and those who started taking the jokes more and more seriously until they started meaning it and it became part of their personalities.

I think that's a huge source of disconnect with Gen Z. I don't think they ever had a concept of dark humor. By the time they reached that age, the trend was more towards acceptance and inclusion, social awareness and non-harmful language. The old "sticks and stones" no longer applied.

So to early Gen Z, late Millennials probably looked like sociopaths. Especially since we were already on social media, and some of that immature bullshit is indelibly marked on the internet.

And you can't just tell them "it was just a joke, we didn't mean it, it wasn't serious" because that's such an alien concept to them.

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tomenzgg 3 points a month ago

I think that's a huge source of disconnect with Gen Z. I don't think they ever had a concept of dark humor.

I mean, I dunno; I think you're right in the sense that Gen. Z doesn't do edgy humor nearly as much but they are still known for irony poisoning and I think you get similar outcomes, just (now) with the veneer of there being, really, a truth to what you're saying.

"Helen Keller didn't really do all that" is squarely a Gen. Z "joke" with just as awful implications as dark humor.

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wonderingwanderer 3 points a month ago

I mean I'll fully admit that I don't know the intricacies of Gen Z humor. I've heard some of it, and there's a lot about it that I don't understand. It can be amusing with the sheer volume of absurdism that it contains. I used to despair over "not getting the joke" until I realized that in many cases, there's nothing to get. It's just absurdist buffoonery channeled into shitpost-tier memes.

Maybe they do have elements of dark humor that I haven't picked up on, but if so it's very different from millennial dark humor. A lot of the shit we used to joke about would not fly these days, and in many cases it's with good reason. You'd be labeled a psycho if you tried.

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 3 points a month ago

motion to make all dumb blonde jokes into dumb nazi jokes

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captainlezbian 4 points a month ago

I'd ask what the difference is, but nazis are so rarely as blond as they'd like

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QueenHawlSera 3 points a month ago

Yeaaaah I have a similar story. It's all fun and games until you realize the other person actually does want to kill jews.

The amount of jews I want to unironically kill is zero.

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diaphragmwp 11 points a month ago

Something similar happened to me once, ended up sharing something that I figured was satire and antifa, then it did end up in fact being satire but also nazi. Basically everyone thought it was on their side, correct or not.

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jballs 6 points a month ago

Poe's law in action.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

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wonderingwanderer 5 points a month ago

That's why I don't engage with that stuff. I understand shitposting, but not everyone can tell the difference. Especially if a bot is scraping to train a model or build a profile on users.

This is why the /s is important. It should always be explicitly clear when a post is satire, if being taken seriously could be harmful.

That's why I hate it when people say "chill, it's just a shitpost, it's not that deep." Like, this is how disinformation spreads...

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arin 110 points a month ago

Me in 2015 reddit in the_Donald Subreddit thought they were shitposting sarcasm but no. It was a coordinated Russian intelligence campaign to fuck with retarded voters

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jballs 27 points a month ago

r/the_donald used to be hilarious. Right up until it became serious.

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ParlimentOfDoom 11 points a month ago

It started that way. Then a large contingent of shit stains showed up not realizing it was a joke and agreed with everything.

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SGforce 9 points a month ago

There was a moderator coup. Reddit admins deliberately flipped it and immediately started banning anyone going "wait...you're serious?"

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oce 9 points a month ago

Me in 2023 learning about tankies through Lemmy.

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MeowerMisfit817 4 points a month ago

Me learning about tankies with my father (who isn't even United-Statian (I refuse to call them Americans, America is an continent.))

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BlaestEgnen 3 points a month ago

Citizens of USA are Americans, but likewise are citizens of Mexico, Honduras and Paraguay

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oce 2 points a month ago

You're going to confuse Americans who are taught America is two different continents: North and South (difference with the Latin culture).

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wolframhydroxide 1 point a month ago

Since you appear to be from France, I will just point out the hilarious hypocrisy and ignorance of suggesting that North and South America, which are separated by no less than three different tectonic plate boundaries, are the same continent, while living in "Europe", which hasn't been tectonically separated from "Asia" for hundreds of millions of years.

You should reflect on that.

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DarrinBrunner 57 points a month ago

Same here. I learned about Flat Earthers, and assumed they were sarcastic, like Birds aren't Real. Took me two years of occasionally coming across their shit to realize they were serious. I was flabbergasted.

That's when I started to understand how stupid people can be. They can be all the stupid, and in unsettling numbers.

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Axolotl_cpp 20 points a month ago

May i introduce you to antivaxxers

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 17 points a month ago

and/or sovereign citizens (this venn diagram has a lot of overlap)

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JoeBigelow 11 points a month ago

Yea yea birds aren't real we all know that. But have you ever gotten really close to a bird? Like close enough to tell if it has dimension? NO. OBVIOUSLY BIRDS ARE FLAT!

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winkledinkle 10 points a month ago

I think birds aren't real is starting to be taken seriously, too.

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ParlimentOfDoom 4 points a month ago

More like the techbros took inspiration...

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Bonsoir 2 points a month ago

I think the birds aren't real people have it all wrong.
Given the level of technology needed to make anything fly, how are we supposed to believe in the original organic "birds" to begin with?
Clearly it's just a distraction from the real harsh truth.

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rumba 3 points a month ago

By Proxy: Brains aren't real

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Jarix 3 points a month ago

Obligatory George Carlin

The average person

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zqps 2 points a month ago

It's not just stupidity.

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JerkyChew 52 points a month ago

There's a subreddit called TrumpZone or something like that that I joined because of all the over the top bootlicking memes. It took a few days before I realized that the memes weren't being posted ironically and the members really were batshit crazy.

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TubularTittyFrog 3 points a month ago

have you tried being batshit crazy though?

it's a lot of fun, as you may have briefly noticed. a lot more fun than being normie

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QueenHawlSera 2 points a month ago

Didn't r/TheDonald start out ironic and then slowly mutate into being unironic.

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zqps 3 points a month ago

Same for r/MURICA. Sad case, it used to be really funny.

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ruuster13 47 points a month ago

Female... shitposter?

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pineapplelover 48 points a month ago

Fake and gay

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ryannathans 6 points a month ago

It's still gay if they have a dick right

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lvxferre 42 points a month ago

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ToastedRavioli 24 points a month ago

We are but a spinning plate in the grand cosmic microwave oven of the universe

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deadbeef79000 23 points a month ago

... explain?

Piss off with you pro-establishment crap.

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rtxn 15 points a month ago

I think it was either a Miniminuteman or a Folding Ideas video that showed what some flatties proposed: the Sun moves in a wacky repeating spiral pattern above the surface. It's closer to the Arctic during summer and to the Antarctic during winter, which they claim to explain the different angles of incidence. Obviously that doesn't conform to any physical laws... observed phenomena... ideas that a person of ordinary intelligence might come up with... their own models of flat Earth... but flatties are nothing if not persistent in their dogmatic rejection of reality.

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Saapas 10 points a month ago

I imagine it is like moving a lamp over a table. Closer parts have summer and further away parts have winter.

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LiarAmongAll 2 points a month ago

Which is pretty funny because in the northern hemisphere during January, the sun is closest to us. It's our axial tilt that drives the winter, being tilted further away in winter.

But God forbid they learn some actual fucking science 😂

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 0 points a month ago

earth moves around the sun. moving a table over a lamp.

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Saapas 2 points a month ago

I'm sure there's both types of flat earthers.

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 2 points a month ago

jeffs and steves?

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 7 points a month ago

very easily:

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ParlimentOfDoom 6 points a month ago

Their worldview is heavily built around Christian magic nonsense: The sky is a dome (firmament). Gravity doesn't exists, it's just buoyancy. They probably assume wind currents change and blow the cold off the icewall surrounding the world edge...

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AllNewTypeFace 6 points a month ago

The earth is flat; it’s just space that’s curved.

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Forester 3 points a month ago

They think earth is flat and space is 3d

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FinjaminPoach 30 points a month ago

A lot of groups take advantage of shitposters in this way. Oh woe is me.

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Zexks 26 points a month ago

This is why i dont like or support shit posting. FAR TOO MANY people simply can not understand.

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oce 22 points a month ago

They said, while participating in a community about 4chan posts.

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ryannathans 15 points a month ago

Poe's law

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Sonotsugipaa 14 points a month ago

Flat-earth shitposters and actual flat-earthers may have their differences, but at least they can all agree that Apollo 11 was staged

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rtxn 25 points a month ago

Of course it was staged. That's how rockets work.

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 3 points a month ago

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mojofrododojo 13 points a month ago

....did the friend know too?

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Darcranium 11 points a month ago

This is why in many native cultures they stay away from being sarcastic. They've learned that it can be harmful to a society and they have the empathy to not want to make certain people who are out of the loop feel dumb

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snugglesthefalse 12 points a month ago

Wdym by native cultures? I'm from a native culture that is known for our sarcasm in humour, not sure if you mean something else by that.

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TubularTittyFrog 3 points a month ago

they mean they make up random shit on the internet because it makes them feel superior to whitey. likely being whitey themselves, but not like those other whiteys who are so sarcastic and cultural destructive, no sir.

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pineapplelover 9 points a month ago

Eyefish lense?

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0ops 20 points a month ago

Anon surely meant fisheye lens

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TootSweet 1 point a month ago

Took me longer than I care to admit to figure that out. Heh.