Microsoft Windows

3 months ago by Mistiy to c/linuxmemes

BlindPenguin 73 points 3 months ago

It's always funny when someone goes "It's so hard to install", like bro, you just press "next, next next, enter your name, finish". Can't get easier than that.

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lyralycan 53 points 3 months ago

And Windows 10 Pro has more steps than Linux Mint. The argument has been moot for a while, but some folk need a little encouragement to unlearn what's been parroted for decades.

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feannag 13 points 3 months ago

Except for one big thing. Most consumers buy a computer, and windows is already installed. Nothing to install, just an account to set up.

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lyralycan 2 points 3 months ago

It's a huge step in the right direction when a seller offers Linux preinstalled. Maybe the EU regulators can go after Microsoft, citing "anticompetitive actions", for ensuring every manufacturer include Windows OS. That'll open the gate for forcing options for the consumer

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Valmond 2 points 3 months ago

Setting up that account? You wouldn't believe it, more steps than installing linux.

/s (maybe? Usb mint is so intrusive)

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Ludicrous0251 15 points 3 months ago

Assuming the graphics drivers baked into the installer work in the first go - ask me how my weekend went.

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StarvingMartist 6 points 3 months ago

Oh God Linux and drivers man

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spicytuna62 12 points 3 months ago

This is why I swapped my RTX 4070 with my brother for his 7700 XT. He offered me some money on top of it. I told him happy birthday because it matters more to me that it just fucking works instead of requiring a blood sacrifice every six weeks to not boot into a void.

Or, as Linus put it, fuck you NVIDIA.

Edit: No problems at all since I swapped the 7700 into my machine, by the way. Getting GPU drivers on my brother's Win 11 machine was a whole task by itself. Even on Windows, getting NVIDIA drivers to work isn't a painless experience.

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floquant 6 points 3 months ago

Nvidia, not drivers in general. Unless you run Debian and have new gadgets i guess

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cybervegan 2 points 3 months ago

I know right. I had a right game reinstalling Win 10 on a lenovo netbook - I had to put a supported, unmanaged version on it for installing lenovo dock firmware updates. For some reason, the default graphics mode was totally corrupted - almost unreadable, and rotated 90 degrees. Once the installer had finished, I had to manually install the right driver for the graphics hardware, and that fixed it. Took hours - total amateurs. For shits and giggles, after I'd finished with with the firmware updates, I installed Mint on it - and it was flawless, and done in half an hour. This is the way to do it!

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Sidyctism2 5 points 3 months ago

Ey, EY! Do you know how long it took me figure out what a "mount point" is? In that same time, i could have already gone through, like, 20% of the ads of the win-installer!

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germanatlas 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah but there is a partition manager 😱

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woelkchen 3 points 3 months ago

In all fairness, not needing to install an OS is easier.

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1984 2 points 3 months ago

People get confused if their icons change color, man.

If the icon is not in the same place as before, god help them.

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LodeMike 1 point 3 months ago

It's impossible to install second in a dual boot system and its drive selection interface is quite confusing if you're not careful.

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BlindPenguin 1 point 3 months ago

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LodeMike 1 point 3 months ago

Oh you were referring to linux? You didn't specify in your comment. I thought you meant windows.

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BlindPenguin 2 points 3 months ago

Well, i thought it was clear in context to the meme :)

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KingOfTheCouch 59 points 3 months ago

Windows is easier to install because the user didn't install it.

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Crashumbc 5 points 3 months ago

TBF Windows is pretty simple to install. Tracking and other bullshit aside.

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Dpek 22 points 3 months ago

I must say, im impressed by windows 11 haveing an update that fucked with the gui shutdown and then next up one that just straight up made it unable to boot

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Axolotl_cpp 14 points 3 months ago

I have a windows 11 machine and i was "mmh, yeah microsoft sucks with update but it has been a while since i updated it...should i?" but now i fear to click that damn button

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abbiistabbii 16 points 3 months ago

"How do I get Linux.exe?"

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ChilledPeppers 13 points 3 months ago

Twice have I helped my friends install linux. Twice have they had bogus usb drives that didn't store the distro properly. (One of them was a 2 cent 2tb drive, the other one was a pendrive he "found on the ground in the street")

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cosmos8188 6 points 3 months ago

found on the ground in the street

Well, where else are you gonna find a wild pendrive?

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ikidd 2 points 3 months ago

The one friend probably hasn't heard about USB parkade seeding as a pen test tool.

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Duamerthrax 0 points 3 months ago

That is such Windows user behavior.

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irotsoma 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah, already installed vs. may require some tweaks to get all of your hardware working, is a big one, especially with laptops since there's so much proprietary junk in many of them.

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ivanafterall 9 points 3 months ago

What do you mean "install it?" You install programs ONTO windows. Windows is already installed. It's literally how you buy the computer. Have you ever even used a computer?

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muusemuuse 9 points 3 months ago

Dude, you reinstall windows every1.5-2 years as by that point it has fucked itself into oblivion.

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highball 2 points 3 months ago

Hilarious that's still a thing. Back in the late 90's and early 00's, I had a buddy that would format and reinstall Windows and all his games and applications religiously, once a month. Seems like something would have done about this after all these years.

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Zink 7 points 3 months ago

I bet there's a strong correlation, at least among we olds, between the number of times one has installed Windows and the likelihood that they are now a Linux user.

That's how we know that Linux is easier to install these days, for one.

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dream_weasel 3 points 3 months ago

I could see it. I wonder if it also depends WHICH windows variants you've installed and how many times. I, for one, have installed windows 98 probably high hundreds of times.

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ikidd 3 points 3 months ago

What's a computer?

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DarrinBrunner 5 points 3 months ago

The last Windows I installed was version 10, it wasn't hard. Neither is installing Linux, maybe it used to be, I've only been using Mint for the past two years, but I don't remember it being hard to install.

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Flatfire 2 points 3 months ago

I had a real time of installing Windows on a laptop because I had a peripheral that only works in Windows.

No trackpad drivers, no network drivers, no audio. Given Windows 11 now functionally requires internet during setup, I had to go get a USB drive, copy over the .inf files and have Windows find them before I could use the laptop that originally shipped with Windows.

Absolutely crazy. None of it was weird hardware either. Intel wireless, standard trackpad (not synaptics), realtek audio. No idea what the hell its problem was.

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Siegfried 3 points 3 months ago

Is it easier to install though?

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some_kind_of_guy 7 points 3 months ago

No one really knows. Only a few brave souls have tried, all of whom succumbed to madness shortly thereafter.

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godsammitdam 2 points 3 months ago

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Mistiygirl 3 points 3 months ago

I hate that community so much. I wish they stayed on fucking reddit

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Willie169 1 point 2 months ago

Installing Linux is just so easy while it genuinely took me a long while to (re)install Windows alongside Linux cuz the driver they provide is an exe and the install process wants some format else, and I ended up found a Github repo that provides decompressed driver files.

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rain_worl 0 points 3 months ago

microsoft femboys?? (daunting prospect)

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ShredderFeeder -21 points 3 months ago

It's probably the #1 reason I'm not a fan of trying to convince Microsoft users to come over to Linux.. I'd rather we NOT have to dumb down what is essentially an almost perfect OS for a bunch of fuckwits who can't figure it out...

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Broadfern 10 points 3 months ago

Ah yes, the single OS known as “Linux”

I’m no irl proselytizer but if someone wants to switch their desktop experience (to Linux, Mac, etc.) I won’t actively discourage them lolol

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festnt 4 points 3 months ago

desktop environments already exist, we don't have to give up anything to let them keep existing

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PabloSexcrowbar 2 points 3 months ago

Been saying this for years. Any time the masses get involved with something good, it goes to absolute shit. Not everything has to be for everyone.

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ShredderFeeder -1 points 3 months ago

Well my friend, we're in the minority it seems. Everyone else suffers from choice supported bias. (The need to convince others to make the same choice they did to validate their choice in their mind.)

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dudeface -32 points 3 months ago

People who use the word “fanboy” care way more than the other side, it’s like android saying it to Apple users

Use your trash while the rest of us enjoy a stable product

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ViatorOmnium 29 points 3 months ago

Stable? Are you really talking about Windows where every update is a gamble (and increasingly so)?

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dudeface -44 points 3 months ago

I use macOS, but yes windows is more stable than desktop Linux overall

I use Linux every day but it’s not useable on the desktop and nobody who knows anything about computers thinks otherwise

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CEO_Monk 32 points 3 months ago

Is this rage bait?

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CorrectAlias 22 points 3 months ago

Yes

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funkajunk 13 points 3 months ago

Ragebait used to be believable 🫩

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dudeface -31 points 3 months ago

If you want to take it as that, and are unwilling to take advice from people with actual experience

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Mistiygirl 27 points 3 months ago

"not usable on the desktop" me: who's been using linux completely without issue after setup for daily work and complex shit for over a year

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BlindPenguin 11 points 3 months ago

I work in IT, and i think otherwise.

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Siegfried 9 points 3 months ago

Stable... haha

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KingOfTheCouch 6 points 3 months ago

Someone woke up and chose violence this morning.

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