Nobody wanted the Iran War except Trump. So why are poor kids dying for it?
a month ago by VetOfTheSeas to c/antitrumpalliance
Israel's holding up their end, doing a genocide in Lebanon. They're getting hundreds of their soldiers maimed, killed, captured-and-then-killed-somehow, when these soldiers aren't busy stealing lingerie from Arab women and dressing in it.
Why can't Americans pick up the slack on their end? Do you have any idea how long Americans have wanted a war with Iran? Do it for Cheney! Do it for McCain! Do it for The Ladybugs!
The Israel:Esptein venn diagram needs to be studied.
send the whole trump aministration.
only once they've passed the mandatory private and personal hegseth erection strength test.
and testing thier testosterone levels from thier "samples"
hegseth sperm count taste test
No American sacrifice is too great.
Israel is a proxy for Western capitalists. They are doing what their masters want: destabilize the region to prevent unified resistance against imperialism.
Which is to say, yes blame Israel, but also American and European governments are just as culpable and must also be dismantled.
The region has no indication of having a tendency to be against imperialism as a principle (only against being themselves victims of it) and even without the White Jewish Supremacist state it wouldn't naturally be unified on account of both the Shia/Sunni split and the fact that those living there are from quite a number of different cultures who often don't see each other in a positive light or as equals.
It's more likely that the motivations of the Western capitalists are simply to steal their Oil, rather than to block some grand imaginary uprising of that region against imperialism.
The Sykes-Picot "Agreement" occurred because the Ottoman Empire had long proved an obstacle to Western imperialism in the region, and colonialist powers wanted to divide it into disparate countries that were almost guaranteed to cause conflict. Both Syria and Libya were destroyed within the last two decades because their governments were explicitly anti-imperialist. Historically, the Levant region has been unified while simultaneously containing multitudes of ethnicities, including Jewish communities that were largely treated better there than in Europe. The Shia/Sunni split largely only concerns Iran, which I don't think would join a unified Levant. The importance of the split itself is also largely overstated by western political theorists because the idea that the region is ungovernable and full of in-fighting is used as a causus belli for western imperialists.
Perhaps the modern people would not unify specifically to overthrow western imperialism (although given the massive negative impact of imperialism, I'm not so sure), but their unification would pose an obstacle to imperialism simply by making them stronger and less vulnerable.
The idea that the Ottoman Empire wasn't imperialist, is hilarious.
The Ottoman's Empire objection to Western imperialism was the self-serving desire of not being a target of it themselves or losing influence in the region.
Going back to my point, most in the region aren't against imperialism in general, they're only against they themselves being the victims of it, which in recent History means being against Western Imperialism, though there has been plenty of Imperialism going on both from nations in that region against other nations there and further afar and from nations from elsewhere than Europe against nations there - after all, the Fertile Crescent (which covers an area were several of the modern nations in that region are) is one of the Cradles Of Civilization so it's hard to find an area of the World more fought over than that.
Being "against the outsiders trying to take our stuff" isn't the kind of unity of purpose that lasts beyond the point when the outsiders stop or are forced to stop trying to take your stuff.
But hey, if you need more indications of that, just look at the 19th and early 20th centuries in the region: it wasn't exactly hard for the British to deploy their usual Divide And Conquer strategy in the region and take over most of the place, the very period you describe as "unified while simultaneously containing multitudes of ethnicities".
More broadly, evidence that the region has no greater tendency for unity than anywhere else in the World can be found in its long History of empires rising and then breaking up and falling there - surely if the Middle East had such a great tendency for unity it wouldn't have literally thousands of years of History of whenever unified or close to it. breaking up into competing groups.
Mind you, I'm not at all against the idea of the region becoming more unified and stopping Western imperialists (or their successors, which will likely be China) from continuing to pillage the region, I just thing that expecting to happen naturally if there was no White Jewish Supremacist nation is Hope rather than a hard nosed look at the Historical record of the region.
You mean like when Israel bombed a US Navy ship?
ISRAEL! ISRAEL! Oops, I mean USA! USA!
I'm not from the USA, but am from a military family and when I see Trump saluting the dead soldiers coffins as they return to the US it genuinely makes my piss boil.
The only reason many of his supporters support this war is becasue they're racist, indoctrinated fools who don't care if a few more "brown" people die.
when I see Trump saluting the dead soldiers coffins as they return to the US it genuinely makes my piss boil.
You think your piss is boiling? Imagine how Trump feels, staring at all those losers.
The only reason many of his supporters support this war is becasue they’re racist, indoctrinated fools who don’t care if a few more “brown” people die.
They absolutely care. They are rabid for it.
There's people who go to war for the college degree or the debt relief or the career advancement. And a lot of them bounce as soon as the checks clear.
There's also people who go to war because its a place where you can go out and get roided up and coke-brained and commit atrocities and be rewarded for it. They tend to stick around, then hop into the private sector to keep the good times rolling.
Oh no, I wasn't clear: I was referring to the non-military dipshits who are shouting crumb and spittle filled tirades at their TV over the idea that a brown person might exist and be happy.
I was one of the first category.
most of them go into reserves or nat guard. it appears for a while alot of the combat roles were impacted.
That's the funny part... they're so fucking dumb that they don't realize that Iran... is mainly Persian... they're not even brown. They could literally pass for most white Americans skin color wise. But the magats are to fucking stupid to realize this.
he also hates soldiers, and servicemembers, he calls them suckers and losers, whats in it for them. he also famously said he would disown ERIC/or JR if they ever joined the military, no more sweet cocaine money if they join.
there is a video that went viral recently about a viet nam vet slapping a younger guy for not standing during the national anthem. He supposedly talked to the kid about his service and the friends he lost. seriously. you where in the cluster that was viet nam and you see the trump now and your not sitting down with the lad rather than supporting this bulltrump.
there is a video that went viral recently about a viet nam vet slapping a younger guy for not standing during the national anthem. He supposedly talked to the kid about his service and the friends he lost.
Hell yeah. Fuck Vietnam for trying to take away our national anthem.
Two reasons.
A. Kids don't have a future here. The STEM craze all but died out and jobs are disappearing. Some see it as the only path to a career.
or
B. The kid in question is a fascist and wants to die for the 4th Reich due to propaganda.
Awkward times in the bunks, I'd say.
"I don't have the money so I'm going to help murder innocent schoolchildren in a country we want to loot" is a shitty excuse.
Some guy robbing a house and shooting the inhabitants is exactly the same, only not legalized by the fascist regime.
It's more that their options are severely limited, and the military offers a paying job that could lead to a career, or at least pay for college, which could lead to a career. Getting the Hell out of bad living situation, either a terrible home town, or a rough family situation, is another good reason. Foster kids age out of the system at 18, and often go homeless. The military looks like a positive viable option from that perspective.
There are a LOT of reasons that people join the military, and VERY few join the military to kill.
VERY few join the military to kill.
Repeating the same mental gymnastics, as if these scumbags don't know what that terrorist army does constantly.
Those frequently heard apologetics are disgusting.
They are vulgar hired murderers in a uniform.
Now you want to try a little whataboutism?
What fucked up country has been 'at war' (plundering and mass-murdering) for all its existence and has their vile inhabitants cry over the murderers not the victims
Or worse, complain about what it does to their gas prices.
They give these cunts a discount and thank them for their service.
You're all very sick people.
You should be hiding under a rock in shame if you had some decency or humanity.
But no, blatantly trying to rationalize and whitewash this filth.
England?
But my point is not whataboutism, its about you judging the decisions of others without providing viable alternative options. Which some people consider a dick move.
they specifically target poor and middle class neighborhoods to that end. they even know that some college campuses(the prospects of them finding a job is low) so they often are seen on campus trying to recruit people. STEM job prospects have been so bad for like 10+ years too, if your not going for programming/TECH, bio(health only), and maybe an engineer, dont expect something, if you dont have years of lab experience. they also never target wealthier neighborhoods.
i seen recruiting offices for each branch in different locations. army for a well travelled mall area, and another in less taffic mall, conveniently both are located near public colleges. the only oddball one i saw was a recruiting office near a mall of asian supermarket near the highway.
and then the ones for all the armed forced combined into one in a more obscure area in a financial district.
A. Man I hear what you're saying but what a stupid decision. I see vets on the street literally every day.
stem was never stem anyway and they tried to do steam. math and engineering and science pays poor or is hit and miss. It was just T
Last time I heard, enlistment is extremely unpopular among youths.
apparently not with top gun maverick propaganda, when the movie came out, more people wanted to join because of it. in general people cant get in because thier education is so dumb down they cant even pass the asvab(enlistment only), and apparently they also cant pass the weight limit/physical portion too. i suspect alot of the enlistment comes from red areas, destitute white people with little prospect of a future, joinj the military as away to escape poverty/ or to stroke thier racist egos.
and yes economic downturn will drive more people to joining too, like the 08 crisis, and drumpfs manufactered distractions from the EPSTEIN FILES.
Add in a little Critical Acclaim (A7X)
Bro, be quiet. You might piss somebody off.
This is some Starship Troopers shit.
"Moose Lambs, Mister Rico! I'm a-burnin' 'em down!"
We've done the same war with poor folk routine since WWII. If you're scratching your head now, you might be a little slow.
“When the rich wage war it's the poor who die.”
-Jean-Paul Sartre
See, I was able to seem sophisticated by citing Jean-Paul Sartr. This is in spite of the fact that I actually heard the quote from a Linkin Park song.
So we have pick me girls and send me boys now? Same vibe
simpol 'as
Because killing poor kids is a grand ol' American pastime.
Really doubt that number. I would not be surprised if it's 100+.
my reference :)
Bullshit
Poor kids always die for the idiocy of the rich/powerful.
The Epstein class told trump to hit Iran. American soldiers are dying so rich old white guys can have sex with tweens. What a farce. What a huge colossal waste. What a great setback for humanity (is humanity still a thing?).
So the US can continue to feed this guy's ambitions for some reason.
0% chance that they're sending the Department of War graphics designers onto Kharg Island.
At least, not in the first wave.
Boots on the ground
They cut you off at the ankles
And throw the rest away
Wait until they start The Draft.
This time they'll do it by Zip code. Punish poor kids in Blue states. And the media, along with Middle America, will be all for it.
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Israel wanted it. They still do. They’re taking our money and weapons and will happily endure American casualties.
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