That's the part that's criminal about delivery fees not going to the driver. My nephew used to deliver for a pizza place but then switched to Uber Eats after his pizza company outsourced and fired all the drivers.

People place orders and see that they're paying a delivery fee, a service fee, and a higher menu price than ordering in the store and then think that they don't need to tip much (if anything) because surely that money is going to the driver doing the actual work and deliverying the food.

But nope, the driver gets paid very little for taking an order. The tip is the vast majority of their salary. My nephew will show me screenshots of orders that he gets that will be like "drive 10 miles to pickup the order, then 5 miles to picked the second piece of the order, then 10 miles to deliver it - for $2.00."

What's worse is that since companies have figured out they can hide this from consumers and get away with it, they've expanded to stuff like "same day delivery" from retail stores. Customers think "same day delivery" is the equivalent to an item being shipped, so would never consider tipping. But it turns out those services are also going through delivery drivers like Uber Eats, meaning someone will pick up a retail order in their own car and get paid next to nothing without tips (which most people don't even think to pay).

Tipping in lieu of salary is a scam.

That's something my father taught me. Always consider what your time is worth. Invest 2 hours just to save 8 Euro? Not a great deal for most people.

To be fair, typically in America (outside of major cities and certain planned neighborhoods), 4 minutes away implies by car. Even if driving only 20mph (unlikely), the pizza shop would be a minimum 1.3 miles away, which would be more like a 30+ minute walk for a pizza.

On top of that, there's almost no safe walking paths by design. You would likely have to traverse major roads with no sidewalks, crosswalks, or even pedestrian stop lights.

It's an unfortunate design that many are stuck with.

Unironically, yes.

It doesn't occur to most Americans to walk a bit instead of drive.

This is exacerbated by the design of American neighborhoods that discourages walking and encourages driving, which of course becomes a feedback loop where Americans don't walk because their neighborhoods aren't designed for it - or worse - designed against it, and so our neighborhoods are designed for people who don't walk, etc.

4 minutes is 2 miles.

It was cheaper and faster to doordash a restaurant quite literally across the street in college, I tested it a few times when my friends would go to buy food there and mine would come like 10 minutes before they got back. Literally across the street, like a 1 minute walk max.

what's peak American is the fact you think you are better than the delivery driver, even if you make less than them.

i think for many people, even who can't really afford food delivery, it's a social flex that 'at least i am not delivering pizzas and i'm the one getting them delivered'.

people love their social hierarchicies based on employment roles.

Or half a mile if you have a couple junctions with red lights ahead, like around the block. Anon could've been living in a flat over said pizza joint for all we know. Or they are just a liar, who also have a crush on delivery driver, so they order pizza to see them again.

eating bugs isn't vegan neither tho

It's not possible to live according to the morals of everyone else. They're mutually contradictory with each other for one thing lol. I'm at peace with the idea that other people won't always agree with me.

No more than it is to have a pet cat and give away its 6-8 week old children to strangers by force.

People who are used to eating that much salt just don't even notice when good is way too salty. I grew up eating whatever processed shit was put in front of me, but after reducing my salt and sugar intake years ago, I'm now acutely sensitive to food when it's too salty or sweet, which is a serious departure from my tastes when I was young

salt tastes good

has nothing to do with being lazy or entitled.

despite all the rugged individualist propaganda, the anti-intellectualism of our culture hinders anyone from attempting anything new and we act like anyone who does is some kind of wizard or supergenius; like with everything else, we act like cooking a decent meal with flavor is best left to the experts.

you can go on youtube--a platform where thousands of expert chefs are spilling their secrets in an easy to follow, step-by-step manner--and easily learn to cook decent food.

but people don't. just like they don't learn how to do basic tech shit, like install an OS.

Is that not already included in the price in the US? I don't live in the US, this is a genuine question.

Where I'm at, I'm pretty sure sales taxes aren't assessed on the fees, only on the product

Probably an “online convenience fee,” as if it’s more work to have an order print up at the restaurant than to make someone there take a phone call.

because people have no perspective on anything anymore let alone any connection to physical reality.

they just consumer hyperbolic nonsense on the internet and regurgitate it for the likes. and then like... then bring that shit into the real world. which is the scariest part.

and if you like try to converse with them, they just call you names and tell you how offensive you are if you like, cite a GDP PP number. Or they would clap back and be like the 7.5% growth rate in Ethopia last year compared to the USA 2% means ethopia is a economic paradise and americans should immigrate there.

Yeah I mean lawn grass. Most people don’t use native species.

If you weren't spending $25k per year on obscene uber eats take away fee's you could have a deposit in 3-5 years

I mean you can but back in the olden days (the 90's) take away pizza was a treat not dinner every night and before the 90's going out to a restaurant was a treat there was no delivery

He's also 4 minutes away from the pizza shop, just go out and pick it up ya fatty

Your body, your choice.