Asshole: no.
Misguided: yes.
His reaction isnât unreasonable. Misplaced well intentioned actions likely will not end as intended. Ultimately, she didnât get it. She misunderstood what he loved about the guitar.
Asshole: no.
Misguided: yes.
His reaction isnât unreasonable. Misplaced well intentioned actions likely will not end as intended. Ultimately, she didnât get it. She misunderstood what he loved about the guitar.
The whole idea of "surprises" is complete bullshit. Social media has really over romanticised this to an extreme (big surprise! Big reaction video! Completely staged. Isn't that soooo romantic and adorable). When my wife gets a present, it costs quite a lot. I'm not going to take a chance of judging her taste, pick a brand I know nothing about and try to guess what she would like. We've got an agreement that we pick our own presents and make our plans together. No surprises bullshit. Might be boring by social media standards, but it's the best I can do.
The modern western version of "gifts" is really about pushing over-consumption. If marketers cannot convince you to buy something yourself, they can try to convince someone else to buy it for you.
I've always felt that gifts should be tokens. Symbols of good will, reminders of the relationship. Consumable gifts are great, especially when shared with the giver. Alcohol is great for this, but there's plenty more you can do. Small, inexpensive art prints or figurines.
I don't want someone else to buy me something I woukd want to research myself. My parents gave me a "snow thrower" for Christmas a couple years ago. Its a relatively cheap, Ryobi 40v thing- I do not own anything else that uses that battery ecosystem. My step-dad loves his, and I am it is great for their 2-car driveway, but my driveway can probably fit like 10 cars in it, and I would have rather saved up for something nicer myself. Now i'm in this weird limbo where I feel socially obligated to use it for several years at least before I replace it with something I actually want.
I'm a school bus driver and I get tips from the kids (really, the parents) at Christmas and the end of the school year, usually in the form of gift cards. It's still such a weird concept to me, but the thing I truly appreciate is hand-written (by the kids themselves) cards that express their appreciation and affection. It also saves me from having to go to Target (the most common gift card) and find something there that I actually want.
My bets friend gifted me a few different bottles of mead to try. We tried them together. One bottle was drained by the end, with him drinking about as much as I did.
And it was a great evening, spent with a friend I rarely have the chance to. The mead was good (and what's left of it still is; pacing myself here), but the quality time was something I can't order online.
The way I do gifts with my Mom is I have a wishlist of things I've researched, and she picks from it.
That way what I'm getting is still a surprise, but it'll be something I actually want.
The way I do gifts with my wife is she either gets me concert lawn seat tickets, or something fun to wear for me.
If it came with batteries they make a Ryobi 40v inverter that's not a bad, but I have a few other things that use those batteries.
My sentiment exactly. Every Christmas I get more junk I don't need, or stuff that I do need, but would have rather researched myself. I hate having a bunch of random knick-knacks and novelty items cluttering up my house, but I also feel guilty getting rid of gifts.
Don't buy me gifts, don't bring me souvenirs, I don't need more novelty t-shirts.
My fiance literally sent me the ring she wanted for our engagement.
Surprises suck, communication rocks!
Talk with her about it.
If she paid for the fucking thing, though, that might be a win!
There are plenty of kinds of surprise that can be wonderful in the right context. Perhaps easiest is when someone tells you they want/would like something, you keep an eye out for opportunities, and surprise them when it comes around. (My wife wanted to see a comedian. I subscribed to their newsletter, and then got (refundable) tickets when they were performing near us, years later.) There can also be things that you are confident someone else will like, which they don't know exist. (I bought a friend a battery operated pruner after seeing him struggle to keep up with bushes.) Or small things that someone likes (flowers, chocolate, breakfast in bed, depends a lot on what they are into).
The guitar repair was the worst kind of surprise: something irreversible, which the surprisee clearly knew about, and has chosen not to do at every single opportunity - while the surpriser doesn't know why they are choosing not to. That's not respectful, which is the absolute minimum requirement for a surprise to work.
For $200 dollars it's extremely unlikely that anything extensive or irreversible was done, definitely not by an actual professional
I love to find something for a person that they don't even know they want until I give it to them, and that they will love. Can't do it on demand though - I have to see something and think "wow, cRazi-man would love this and I bet he's never even seen one.". Then buy or make whatever it is for that one person.
My kids say that now their standards for gifts are crazy because that is how I gift. Not many, not often, only when inspired, I don't think they realized it was unusual.
I don't understand the value of random crap. But do think that a surprise can be so good.
I don't understand this insane fixation that society has with gifts being "surprises", I find to so annoying, sometimes it even ends up being worse than not giving anything at all the gift is genuinely useless.
One particularly bad case in experience of a surprise gift for me, was when my mom decided to surprise me with a computer as gift, specially since this is a significal finnancial burden, one of which could have been partially relifed by letting me choose and pick parts, but even though we had an agreement to let me pick the parts she just decided randomly to buy a prebuilt instead without notifying me at all, when I was extremely angry at her for this and when I questioned her horrible decision, she said: "I just wanted you to have a happy surprise" and tried to make emotionally guilty trip me when I didn't show any thankfulness for the gift with: "Why don't you love me? I do everyrhing for you"
Why? do people assume that I want a surprise? why is this idea so ingrained into people's brain that when I ask to simply give tge money one would have spent instead in buying the gift, that is seen somehow as rude, what is so rude about trying make the most out of the money would've been spent into a worthless sock I didn't ask nor need?
I kind of have a hard time imagining such a thing being done with sincerely good intentions, how many people would really do that? Easy to imagine it as a way to exercise power over someone with a plausible pretense though.
This is projection
Clearly a professional agreed that it didn't just look rough, the shit was damaged
Firstly, they'll repair and/or make any guitar look better. It's their job so they'll do it. Secondly and more importantly, it isn't about if the guitar is damaged or not. It was clearly loved for what it was, it was probably more about the history of it than anything else.
It's really not hard to not fuck with other peoples stuff without their consent. And it's real sad that people like you exist that don't seem to understand that.
Lol cope
It absolutely is about whether the guitar was damaged or not, that's extremely relevant information and you're trying to disregard it because that's the only way you have any chance of not sounding like a complete fucking moron
Iâve got a guitar with a damaged mid pickup, I picked it up for a song, it roughs up the sound something bad, but the thing is that for what I use it to play that roughness helps give me the tone Iâm looking for. I have an old Crate amp that inches closer to the end with every session, and its garbled death rattles add precisely what I want to the sound.
Standardization is for hacks. You donât get to decide what other people are looking for out of their art.
And just for posterity, what do you play?
There's not enough context here to say that with any certainty. If husband was playing it and enjoying it, then it's doing the job it needs to. Even if it was actually broken and actually fixed, it still changes the relationship between player and instrument and could've easily taken away earned character as a way to make it look "nice"
I don't have a lot of sympathy for the idea of damage as character or lack of maintenance for a musical instrument as an aesthetic decision rather than just a bad decision, but you're right about there not being enough information
So you think Willie Nelson should replace the top on Trigger?
fake: 4chan poster has a husband
Gay: 4chan poster has a husband
Oof, this is a rough one. While I appreciate the gesture, that's a personal thing. That's like taking someone's favorite pair of jeans and getting them hemmed because they'd frayed at the heel. Sometimes the wear and tear is what we value.
A worn appearance is often desired on old guitars. In some cases, it can even increase its value.
That, and the OP probably did what would be considered finishing someone's puzzle for them.
It's very situational. Cracks and dings? No good. Natural checkering from age on an old acoustic? Higher value.
It's like taking someone's tried and true Windows 7 machine and upgrading it to Windows 11.
No, that's nothing at all like a repair, that's a downgrade
some poorly done repairs can be a downgrade
For some reason this reminds me of Pamela Anderson's tits. I recall her having a botched breast enhancement surgery
Could be, but it isn't
At this point machines that can run windows 7 and those that run windows 11 don't overlap. So yea, would be annoying to install something that won't run at all.
This example physically hurt me...
The obsession I have with Trigger...
I love that Willie, a very rich man, still plays THIS guitar and only this guitar. Like, you go to concerts and there's a guitar tech grabbing different instruments off stage, swapping them out. But ol' Willie just up there with bus up Trigger looking like she's about to collapse into splinters. But she produces such a unique sound that no other guitar can match.
The lead singer from Cake has one of the worst sounding guitar tones you'll ever hear, but it's perfect in the context of their songs. 'Fixing' it to make it sound good would ruin it. https://youtu.be/tEvcj6Nns_Y
Any tone in existence can be achieved with repaired and properly functioning equipment by a competent musician, avoiding repair because they don't know how to do that is embarassing
This guitar has lived a full life. It even has its own wikipedia page.
There's an entire section of the article titled "maintenance", he apparently does get it regularly repaired
Depends how it was âfixedâ If the pro tuned it to make it sound perfect thatâs great. But probably anon got the damage repaired, taking away its charm and character. Of course anon doesnât even know the difference between these two things.
For $200 they probably didn't change much
Do you play?
You're all over this thread and you're a jackass.
Yeah I play. Yeah I had the shittiest beat up guitar when I was in my youth. I took it all over the world because I didn't care what happened to it. Loved it while I had it and if someone had "fixed it", that would have destroyed what it was to me, jackass.
And yeah now I have "better" guitars and I don't have that 25$ guitar anymore.
Bassist here, I want my bass to sound fucking dirty, fuck the pro fix up. I do it myself and I have since high school. get. fucked.
If you've been doing it yourself since high school and still haven't figured out how to do it reliably with fully repaired and properly functioning equipment then you're a fucking moron
You don't play string instruments, do you? There's a lot that goes into any instrument's sound, and some of it isn't a matter of tuning. Especially when we talk about electric instruments. Maybe a pickup you installed on your bass has a small defect that introduces some noise into signal and you like the unique sound signature, for instance.
More goes into the sound of an instrument than just tuning and the body being in good shape, so your repetition of this claim that if you can't reproduce any given sound character on your instrument with some tuning you're a "moron" is either reductionist for the sake of trolling or is deeply ignorant.
anon: congratulations, you're being rescued
guitar: "..."
anon: please do not resist
Electric guitars are little more than a piece of wood, metal strings, and a transducer. For a lot of musicians what matters most is the sentimental value of their model. What she did was basically rob the owner of that.
I never really understood paying a lot of money for a solid body electric; it really is just the sum of its parts.
I bought a budget epiphone Les Paul and just swapped out the electronics (and tuning knobs) with resale Gibson parts. Sounds great for less than $400.
What exactly do you think was altered and stolen exactly?
If you have to ask the internet if you are an asshole then it's either because you are definitely an asshole, or because you are karma farming - in which case, you are an asshole.
the AITA on reddit is one of it's most popular things, and lots of people farm content from it.
because people love judging the shit out of other people and explaining how awful they are. or justifying their assholery.
it's arm chair quarter backing other people's relationship drama. and everyone is an NFL relationship coach in their own mind.
people ask the internet because social approval is very important to folks and they need to have their biases validated.
Narcissists feeding on other narcissists. Reddit was full of those people, and Lemmy also has them.
Plus there are podcasts that use those subs for content, so people submit their âcreativeâ writing to see if they can get featured.
Yep. Literally all anon had to do was talk to him about it first. Communication is so fucking important. I would know because a lack of it was what ended my almost decade long relationship. Talk to your fucking partners, even if it's uncomfortable in the moment. If you don't you will be MUCH more uncomfortable later when everything explodes.
Depends what âfixâ means, but if you didnât get ripped off for $200, yes.
Getting it professionally tuned isnât unreasonable imo, especially if the neck/pegs are misaligned, but in no world should that cost $200 (and donât try to fix a misalignment).
Once you start making changes that canât be undone, youâve crossed the line. Get it tuned, get a nice strap (with mounting hardware, if needed), get a polishing kit or nicer case, hell, even get a replacement bridge/pegs and tools for working with a guitar, but donât make permanent changes yourself (or have anyone else do so). All of those together could be well over $200, but youâd describe that as a tuneup and buying accessories, not taking the guitar âto a pro to fix it.â
Caveat that some people donât like non-musicians or anyone else even touching their instruments, but Iâd like to think that would be obvious to a spouse, even one who might have assumed that permanent changes to an instrument they donât own are okay.
Iâm a non-musician and my husband has a somewhat beaten up, but favored instrument that he learned on, so Iâll send this to him to see if my instinct is right (for my relationship, which does not mean it would be right for anyone else).
Though tbf, even thinking it might be okay, I got my husband a new instrument instead of messing with his beloved one, just because it occurred to me that he might react like the husband in the OP, and I didnât want to risk it. Of course, he could also have then felt guilty about using the new one because itâs not the one he loves and felt guilty about using the old one because I gifted him a ânicerâ one. I was lucky in that heâd already branched out into related instruments and the new one could fill a new niche, so wouldnât compete with the old, making me less worried about him feeling conflicted [I'm so sorry about that sentence, Iâm imagining trying to structure it in German without nominalizing any of the clauses and⊠woof].
I sent him the green text, and apparently he offered to fix a friendâs instrument in the past and got an earful. He would have been fine with me getting his old one fixed up, but heâs happy to have the new one
I fucking hate people who think they are 'helping' me or 'fixing' things for me.
They tend to be condescending assholes who think they 'know better'.
Like no, bitch, I know what I like and I have chosen this deliberately.
Can't tell you how many people like give me shit about my home, my kitchen, my pantry, my bikes, my car, etc. These people tend to think nothing is worth anything unless it's the latest, greatest, trendiest, most expensive version of a thing. Like, apparnetly if I don't own a Tesla, live in a grey-white box, and own $10,000 bicycles or $1000 knives, I am 'struggling' at life or something
I also love how people like this insist that you must perpetually be in therapy and/or have a personal trainer... or you are 'not doing the work'. Just because you're a lazy loser who exercise or be mentally health without paying someone to do it for you, doesn't mean the rest of us live our lives that way.
Or the people who refer to everything as cheap just because it's not "expensive". I know people who are so fucking condescending because according to them everything else is cheap. Ok, you have an expensive ass Thermador fridge...whose ice machine hasn't worked in 6 years. Wow, those certainly are an expensive LG washer dryer set...that you need to leave the door open on because its drainage is shit and will get musty and grow mildew if the door is closed. Nice new Volvo, with all the LaTeSt SaFeTy FeAtUrEs while you still refuse to even look at the backup camera and yet manage to hit curbs.
I have a newer LG washing machine in my house. It smells like the sewage line is backing up into it ... which I know it isn't because it free-drains into a utility sink.
Whenever they're finished with laundry they have to leave the doors open. I don't recall of it's a drainage problem or just shitty design but all the moisture/water isn't removed. It's a known flaw and last I heard LG and other manufacturers with similar problems have done fuck-all about it
Ya know, it should have been obvious to me that there was a problem like this, since there's always condensation on the lid (which is clear glass for no good fucking reason) after I'm done with a load.
Throwing therapy in there with teslas and $1000 knives does not help your credibility
So many arguments in this thread with so little information. Ah, the internet.
He probably just thought it didn't sound the same any more, and he probably preferred the old 'crappy' sound. "They say she's the same [Becky], but she's not the same [Becky]."
It's the Internet so I'd say 1) this definitely didn't happen and 2) it was written this way specifically to bait engagement.
He didn't make this guitar, he found it, and it was damaged
it also says he did it in high school, and that an actual professional did actual repairs later. It's possible he was some sort of shop class prodigy, but it's far more likely that he barely managed to restring the thing and was delusional about the extent of what he repaired
Reading the comments...is there one actual guitar player here? Does anyone know what the fuck actually goes into setting the intonation and adjusting the action of the strings?
And people talking about permanent changes they could have made....what possible changes are getting done for 200...the proper parts alone would cost at least half of that and no one is doing work in a shop for free.
So presumably she had it set up which means strings were changed, intonation was properly setup and the action was adjusted with a truss rod check and some feet polishing.
If he's pissed the intonation is correct hes just a shitty player.
He didn't "salvage" jack shit he was dumpster diving in high school
Tell me you've never played with out telling me you've never played
The point is stupid
I have a friend with guitars he uses for specific songs. This isn't even weird for musicians, let alone artists in general.
If someone took my guitar and had it adjusted by someone else to meet standard industry sound specs Iâd be pissed. Itâs not just a guitar, itâs my hobby and something I have put a lot of time into to get the specific tone, tension, and sound that Iâm looking for. Especially if they paid 200 bucks to have it done, you could pick up a beater guitar, an amp, a synth, or even a used drum kit for that much.
It also just crosses a certain line of respect for someoneâs art and personal space. Itâd be like if someone was working on a painting and you snuck it away to have it finished by a commissioned artist. Thatâd be shitty and disrespectful.
Exactly what I was thinking. It's like grabbing your unpainted warhammer figures and having them professionally painted. Yeah, they look better, but that's not the point.
It's your hobby that you put so much time into but you can't figure out how to readjust your guitar to get the sound you want after basic repairs? Skill issue
I think it's an overall change. I have a very solid latitude laptop I recovered when work upgraded our systems. It's beat to hell, but it's very reliable and I use the hell out of it. I'm not afraid of it getting scratched or dropped, it's worn in and I love it. Wouldn't trade it or get it "repaired" for anything.
It's like Mamdani about ID in his grocery stores...
Unpopular opinion but no.
You're right, if there was actual damage to repair and it still plays afterward the husband is just being a petulant little shit
As a guitar player, you get so much used to how the instrument feels in your hand while you play it that even something that should make it better ends up making it feeling worse.
That said, if the husband really loved that guitar the way it was, he could have brought it back to the luthier, have them undo their job. Stop playing it altogether was his decision and acting like that seems like a "punishment" for their spouse. That would be childish and borderline toxic behavior.
As a fellow guitar player I'm not certain why this is being down voted so hard? Guitars are made to be modified, so anything that was done can be undone.
The interesting thing is that the wife said she only spent $200 bucks to get the guitar repair. Your mileage may vary, but in my neck of the woods $200 doesn't get you too much in the way of a repair. They would probably offer to give your guitar a 'setup' and a new pack of strings, near me that would cost around $100, maybe a little more. So whatever else they fixed couldn't have been too invasive, possibly new tuning pegs or resolved any wiring issues?
Everything there can be undone, a setup is the hardest as it would change the feel of the guitar. For the most part the 'feel', really only comes down to string height or 'action'. That's a quick fix for a guitar tech if brought back to the shop, hell a motivated amateur could probably probably figure out how to make that adjustment with a screwdriver and a Google search.
All that said I totally understand how the 'magic' of a guitar can easily be lost in the hands of a well intentioned but misguided guitar tech.
Repeating myself from a previous comment:
And if the road-earned patina is now shine? and the scratches are now filled with wood glue under a glued on pick guard? and the peg that came off that old banjo they found in the middle of a gig 20 years ago has been replaced with a brand new set. And the notch on the edging where steveâs girlfriend slammed a nazi in the face at the same party where sabrina fucked that idiot from the ska band and got pregnant?
Let me start by saying I get it, sometimes the 'magic' of a guitar gets ruined by a well intentioned guitar tech.
That said what you are describing is a complete re-finishing job, and possibly a gutting the guitar down to a husk and replacing all the parts. The paint will easily cost upwards of 1-2k, and swapping out everything with decent parts could cost $500 - $1,000.
The 'wife' in the green text said she spent $200, for that price you aren't getting much, fresh strings, a setup, and possibly a spot level and crown for any high frets. A few minor tweaks, that in theory could be undone.
Yeah probably the wife went to the guitar tech and asked "can you please make this better" and they gave it the classic fret leveling and crowning for a lower action and probably not much more for 200$. But the downvote mob already picked its side in this story so I'm not even gonna bother correcting them.
Exactly, for that price you're not really getting much aside from a few playability tweaks.
Nope, it was damaged and she got it fixed. Husband sucks and probably couldn't play for shit anyway.
Imagine your kid fishing someone else's abandoned painting out of the trash, halfway un-crumpling it and taking it home, then getting mad at you for smoothing it the rest of the way out and framing it for them. The wife was right, the husband is a petulant shit, you and your hypothetical children are dumb as dirt.
I'm not missing your point, I'm explaining why your point is stupid
It literally mentions that the husband fixed it up.
Seriously though you're way too invested into a fake story.
It also mentions that a professional fixed it up, and the husband was not that professional, so he probably also did a dogshit job at that.
This is projection on your part, calm down
Cant you see how someone might value an instrument they repaired (and probably taught themselves how to do that) themselves a lot more than a store bought, flawless replacement?
There is value in doing things yourself, even if you could get always a better result by paying someone professional to do it for you.
It wasn't replaced, it was repaired. A professional repaired it. If he taught himself how to repair it then he must have done a shit job or it wouldn't have cost 200$ to repair after he was done.
You can't claim other people are projecting, when you are replying to everyone on this thread.
I can actually, seems like you don't know what the word means
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