The conception of gender and sexuality is complicated depending on the culture. Not sure how true it is but apparently in ancient Rome, it's not considered gay if you are on top.

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shawn1122 9 points 3 days ago

That's because sex was perceived specifically through a lens of power dynamics in that culture, which was not the case in several Eastern cultures at the time.

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k0e3 3 points 3 days ago

Reminds me of the line, "ain't nothing gay about gettin' your dick sucked," from the second Harold and Kumar movie.

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Blibly 1 point 2 days ago

Yeah you still have a lot of gay bros today insisting they're not gay while they fuck dude ass but that don't make it true. Maybe it was the same back then.

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terranoid 6 points 3 days ago

Hmmm I doubt it, the way it varies among cultures. It's not just Christianity and Islam that gets weird about it. From what I've read it's more about sex acts that are considered taboo, like a man laying with another man, and not about some modern idea of what homosexuality is. And I believe it can be argued sometimes that we don't know if these ancient laws are about a man raping a man rather than just men having sex with men. (And if there's no victim, who's reporting it? An observer or jealous spouse?)

we're talking like 12th century BCE Assyria...

https://urania.institute/...

The way cultures can vary so much on what is taboo, is it that surprising that people make same sex relations taboo?

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Eheran -1 points 3 days ago

Because they didn't call it that. They still killed whoever got fucked.

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deadmyk 32 points 3 days ago

think musks "historically accurate" grok version will tell them?

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prex 5 points 3 days ago

They each furiously masterbate to photos of elon that were sent back in time.

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Akasazh 31 points 3 days ago

Fijn fact: Odysseus didn't need to be tied down to resist the sirens song, but he just was into bondage and roleplay.

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Vince 26 points 3 days ago

10 years were fighting a war, most definitely with some "spoils" of war

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cobysev 20 points 3 days ago

Eventually, yes. But it took them 10 years just to breach the outer wall. They had to wait a decade before partaking in any spoils.

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Cypher 5 points 3 days ago

Armies travelled with large entourages which included soldiers wives, and plenty of whores for the single men.

There’s also Odysseus’s stop on Ogygia where he was railing Calypso for seven years.

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ParlimentOfDoom 1 point 3 days ago

They weren't sitting on a beach for 10 years waiting. They were pillaging the villages surrounding Troy.

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bl4ckp1xx13 2 points 3 days ago

Consenting spoils I hope 🫣

Or maybe some CNC stuff that'd be pretty hot actually.

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JackbyDev 5 points 3 days ago

In the movie, I don't specifically remember them showing that (but might be mistaken, they certainly did loot Troy), but

Minor spoiler if you care

One witch character curses his men and turns them into pigs because she believes they would have stolen from her and had their way with her. Odysseus very specifically uses the argument that they didn't do those things to her while convincing her to change them back. So take as you will. You could interpret this as Odysseus's men not being rapists. But I don't really remember the dialogue or flashbacks super well, I might be forgetting something. All that said, even if it didn't happen on screen, I don't really think there's a specific reason to believe they didn't do it off screen based on the overall tone and theme of the movie.

(It's been a long time since I read the story, so it may have been different.)

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Cethin 4 points 3 days ago

I really like how Hades has introduced the stories to a lot of people. The witch is a character in Hades 2.

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Cypher 21 points 3 days ago

The Odyssey took 20 years but 10 was spent fighting at Troy where they’d have had camp followers, wives, whores and such.

Then 7 of the next 10 years were on Ogygia where Odysseus at least was fucking Calypso.

Three years is a long dry spell but probably unlikely to change the way you bat… for those who even survived very long.

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DillDough 8 points 3 days ago

They were already batting that direction lmao, didn't not need isolation or dry spells to partake in the pisso glendi.

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mst 2 points 3 days ago

He was one year at Aeaea fucking Circe. So only two years left.

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beejboytyson 1 point 3 days ago

But the smells Dee, you haven't thought of he smells you bitch 🤢🤮

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Gonzako 1 point 3 days ago

Hey, I've been a decade without some love so it can be done. I'm only halfway there

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FordBeeblebrox 12 points 3 days ago

It’s not gay if you’re underway

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bl4ckp1xx13 10 points 3 days ago

Don't worry, Odysseus kept his men real satisfied.

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cupcakezealot 10 points 3 days ago

woke is when you make the ancient greeks bisexual

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zakobjoa 7 points 3 days ago

Sure, if you would get lost for ten years in the Aegean Sea, you'd have to cuddle the homies.

But you wouldn't, so you don't.

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Etterra 5 points 3 days ago

Best friends meant something very different back then.

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craigers 4 points 2 days ago

My buddy in the Navy always says: 100 sailors go out, 50 couples come back.

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icerunner_origin 3 points 3 days ago

"I want to tell you something, but please bend over first"

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mrmaplebar 3 points 3 days ago

Greeks been doing it. Celts been doing it. Everybody been doing it!

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Sharkticon 2 points 3 days ago

Man this meme is getting posted a lot.

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starlinguk 3 points 3 days ago

By people who don't know the Odyssee.

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Caesium -13 points 3 days ago

mm yes casual ace erasure

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JackbyDev 22 points 3 days ago

What's more likely, that all of them were ace or that some of them were homosexual?

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