Beautiful.

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eruchitanda 93 points a month ago

Literally easier than Windows.

People are falling for this and downloading software from unofficial websites.

Linux is super easy.

  • Debian-based: # apt install firefox
  • Red-Hat-based: # dnf in firefox
  • Arch: # pacman -S firefox
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umbrella 33 points a month ago

click the store basket icon.

type the name of the program.

press install.

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Cethin 7 points a month ago

The reason tutorials are always based on terminal commands is because it's much harder to describe directions for a GUI, and it's also a lot more prone to change. When the command is just a single line, not images or dependencies, that's obviously better.

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umbrella 4 points a month ago

i know. outlines how easy it is tho.

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DeLancre 2 points a month ago
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VieuxQueb 2 points a month ago

I use discover on opensuse tumbleweed. Simple, easy, and I can choose the source from flathub and tumbleweed when both are available.

I did have an issue once but it turned out that it was network related and not my config.

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DeLancre 3 points a month ago
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rumschlumpel 30 points a month ago

TBF, on Debian apt install firefox installs firefox-esr, and on Ubuntu it's a placeholder that installs the snap package. Both work and are clearly better than downloading from random websites, but they do come with surprises for unsuspecting users.

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spicehoarder 17 points a month ago

Why is Ubuntu even still relevant?

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rumschlumpel 20 points a month ago

Inertia?

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Axolotl_cpp 2 points a month ago

That's because debian stable need ESR packages to make any sense, on debian unstable (debian Sid) you get the normal package

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urushitan 17 points a month ago

Ok but also winget install mozilla.firefox

It’s not binary

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exu 19 points a month ago

It actually is a binary. Though you can probably find some version to compile in the AUR

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Sturgist 3 points a month ago

slow clap

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MonkderVierte 1 point a month ago

winget was literally robbed from appget.

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serpineslair 10 points a month ago

Or even: yay firefox

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ekZepp 11 points a month ago

or even: yay -S librewolf-bin

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serpineslair 19 points a month ago

No need. Librewolf got added to extra repo. yay librewolf or pacman -S librewolf will do just fine.

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ekZepp 2 points a month ago

πŸ‘

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eruchitanda 3 points a month ago

yay firefox does yay -Ss firefox.

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akunohana 7 points a month ago

Which, in turn, does me: yay! πŸ₯³

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VOwOxel 8 points a month ago
  • OpenSUSE: # zypper in firefox
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provectus 6 points a month ago
  • gentoo: # configure the make file for Firefox, and emerge www-client/Firefox.

It should take a moment or two to install. /s

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BurgerBaron 4 points a month ago

CachyOS # pacman -S firefox-wayland-cachy-hg

edit: BTW

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Honytawk -15 points a month ago

Thinking a command line is easier than double clicking an installer shows how far you linux users are devoid from the common user.

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IrateAnteater 25 points a month ago

apt install software

Vs

Search " software "click download, accept security warning, navigate to wherever your default download location is, double click installer, click your way through the installer (make sure do deselect whatever crapware it tries to package along with).

Yup, the Windows way is totally so much easier.

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thagoat -2 points a month ago path: 0 25603772 25604389 25604743 25605133, hotness: undefined, score: -2, children: 16
RickyRigatoni 10 points a month ago

So going to mozilla.org then immediately installs firefox?

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IrateAnteater 2 points a month ago

To be fair, I'm guessing that most people will just type "Firefox" into Google and click the first link

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homosapien 2 points a month ago

what do you do with the extra 2 seconds?

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punkfungus 11 points a month ago

Not wrong about OP, but also both major desktop environments on linux ship with "app stores" that are friendly to anyone familiar with a phone. So it's still easier installing software on linux than searching for and downloading .msi and .exe files on the internet (and hoping the version of MSI afterburner you found is the real one).

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spicehoarder 4 points a month ago

Common users type into chatbots. They can 100% type the install commands. But also using the Bazaar or software center is super easy.

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Bluewing 1 point a month ago

Who's typing those long ass command chains? Let's be honest, it's all copy pasta from those chatbots.

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ReCursing 2 points a month ago

I use Octopi generally, though the add/remove software app is prettier. If I have to install software via the command line I always have to double check the syntax. The command like version existing is extremely useful as a fallback though, and most (all?) gui package managers act as wrappers around the command line. So don't dunk on the command line

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Bluewing 2 points a month ago

I find installing or running software from the cli is excellent for getting hints and clues to errors that the gui won't show you.

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_stranger_ 2 points a month ago

that's not what devoid means.

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Jiral 1 point a month ago

Thinking you have to use the terminal for installing programs can only mean you don't know anything about modern user friendly Linux distros. You manage to install stuff on an iOS or Android phone as well, without downloading random files from random sites and then launching random installers, do you? You can do it thesame way on Linux.

The thing is, if you want to, you can also use the terminal. Many prefer it because you can be faster and the command is not rocket science. Which is fine too. Whatever you prefer.

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eruchitanda 1 point a month ago

I disagree.

But still, you need to get the installer somehow.

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treadful 46 points a month ago

Don't know what the fuck is going on there, but that's not installing a browser.

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girsaysdoom 14 points a month ago

Looks like they have a tiling window manager running the 'stat' command on a bunch of kernel files on the left, then a bunch of smaller window tiles having random stuff like garbled text, a resource monitor, and gnucharmap?

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Marduk73 8 points a month ago

They think they are movie hackers sitting in a back seat in a high speed chase going clackity clak ok got it, next light is green.

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FreddiesLantern 4 points a month ago

DOWNLOAD THE SERVER ON A DVD!

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RogueBanana 3 points a month ago

Damn, this repo is tough to fetch from. I will take the left side of the keyboard and you take the right.

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leftzero 20 points a month ago

Add programs.firefox.enable = true; to configuration.nix.

Call sudo nixos-rebuild switch. Maybe add --flake if you're feeling adventurous.

Done.

Or, more realistically...

programs = {
    firefox = {
        enable = true;
        # Configure anything you want here (language,
        # extensions, policies... whatever).
    };
    # Enable and configure other programs here.
};

... and keep the whole thing in a git repository to track changes and have it available for other machines.

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NoFood4u 8 points a month ago

And you can even add programs.firefox.package = pkgs.librewolf; if you prefer it!

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libewa 2 points a month ago

And the default GUI configs come with Firefox iirc!

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ttayh 3 points a month ago

dude, don't try to sell me on an easy to configure distro, I'm just finishing up on the configs for my debian home server/sometimes workstation. Definitely don't do it, don't send me down the rabbit hole of reproducebility

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leftzero 2 points a month ago

As a programmer, the moment I learned about nixos (here on lemmy, if I recall correctly) I knew that'd be the one I'd pick once I found the time to move to linux. It just seemed like a reasonable way of doing things, you know?

Bit of a learning curve, but worth it, I believe.

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MonkderVierte 2 points a month ago

Lol, yay firefox-esr.

And optionally ln -s /usr/sbin/firefox-esr ~/bin/webbrowser.

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sik0fewl 17 points a month ago

Real Linux users use Lynx because they fucked up their XF86Config.

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Bluewing 4 points a month ago

You be nice to Lynx. It was the first browser I used way back in the day. Fast and sometimes confusing and limited, it was the perfect experience.

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MonkderVierte 2 points a month ago

Or the display manager is a bitch with your custom $XAUTHORITY place (looking at you, Lightdm).

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Hond 15 points a month ago

i think i never even used a terminal to install a browser and i dabbled with linux on and off for over a decade now. there was always a gui to install a browser. well, not on arch in 2014 but back then i never made it past a half broken desktop enviroment. so my point still stands technically.

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djdarren 1 point a month ago

Ironically, I used a terminal to install LibreWolf on my Macbook.

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RickyRigatoni 13 points a month ago

What distros are ya'll using that firefox isn't installed by default?

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KernelTale 2 points a month ago

When I used to be on windows it was a bit of pain to install Firefox via WSL2. I probably had to install like X11 while at it. I also installed modded Minecraft. It ran fabulously at 2 FPS v 1.4.7

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yardratianSoma 1 point a month ago

minimal arch install

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MonkderVierte 7 points a month ago

The installing, not the webbrowser.

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Pat_Riot 7 points a month ago

Installing a flatpack looks different on my system.

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germanatlas 6 points a month ago

There are several gui applications for your package manager you can use to install various browsers.

This ironically fits more to windows users trying to uninstall edge

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qyron 6 points a month ago

High-jacking the thread a bit.

As anyone tried Midori recently. I remembered about it this past weekend and when searching I was impressed with the project page.

Installed it on my phone and my computer.

On Android it is not ready yet. Maybe for tablets. The browser did not resize to fit the screen. It also felt heavy. Removed after a few tentative uses.

On PC, the same feeling of being heavy, slow moving. It took a long time to open and start navigating. My computer is not new but it carries itself well enough to start FF in a few seconds.

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thagoat 4 points a month ago

Live by the cli, die by the cli.

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wopalopa 3 points a month ago

im the most tech savvy in my household. compared to general people, im still a normie.

my personal pc is linux based and whenever someone asked to use my pc for general purpose i have to do the terminal dance. now for some of you that may be easy but for me it's annoying. not to mention that i have goldfish memory so i have to duckduckgo which dependancy i need, troubleshooting and look for dependancy just to make my vlc support certain kind of media or connecting apple device to the pc.

im planning to distro hop to an easier one but im dreading to do the terminal dance all over again.

worth mentioning, my kb Fx keys are unusable for almost a year now and i exhausted all possible way to fix it. my steam streaming also outputting blank screen. i just dont have the urge and will to fix it

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Bluewing 2 points a month ago

Don't feel bad. I've been running some distro since Y2K was a fear. And I still often need to search commands. (Shhhhh! Don't tell anyone but I have even used ChatGPT a few times also. To my secret shame). But I am wary of what I see and while I don't always remember the proper syntax all the the time, I do know when the answer is right when I see it.

If anything, it shows that you are a person that is willing to get your hands dirty to fix your own problems before you start asking random people to solve your problem for you. You will become the master yet.

And Kudos to Ephera for stepping up and helping a fellow user!

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Ephera 1 point a month ago

my kb Fx keys are unusable for almost a year now and i exhausted all possible way to fix it.

Unusable as in nothing at all happens, or do they do things like volume up/down when you press them?

If the latter, there may be an "FnLock" key combination you have to press. Usually, it's something like Fn+Esc. Or Fn + whatever key has a lock symbol or "FnLock" written on it...

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wopalopa 3 points a month ago

its the latter. the fn thing doesnt work as the fn key doesnt register input. my initial asumption is that because my kb is on apple format and i couldnt change it to windows because it requires me to press the fn key (iqunix f96)

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Ephera 4 points a month ago

This sounds exactly like your problem: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=269796

It's quite a lot of detailed technology talk, which I don't expect you to understand. The main takeaway should be this:

So the problem is [temporarily] solved by running: rmmod hid_apple

This command unloads a driver that's potentially interfering here. The driver will be loaded again on next reboot.
Which is useful, because you can just try it out and if it doesn't work (or if it breaks something), you can just do a reboot and everything is back to normal.

You will need admin/root permissions to run this command, so the real command you need to run is: sudo rmmod hid_apple
It will ask you for your login password to confirm running the command.

If that does fix it, then we can look into making it permanent.

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wopalopa 2 points a month ago

thank you, ill try it asap

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punkfungus 1 point a month ago

That just sounds like your keyboard is broken. Your keyboard switching its own functions does not involve the OS

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UnfortunateShort 2 points a month ago

yay -S librewolf done

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Uri 2 points a month ago

Nope just use w3m it's better

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