I really did try everything

17 days ago by TotallynotJessica to c/transmemes

GalacticSushi 92 points 17 days ago

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Lehmuusa 47 points 17 days ago

Had this same problem with a friend I saw some four months after I had figured out I'm trans.

"Are you sure?"

"Maybe you are actually __"

"Have you not thought even for a while that you might be wrong? I recommend you think about that possibility!"

"You are okay as you are."

"You don't need to feel dysphoria."

"You're always being so radical, is this just about you hating men? You should not hate men."

He seemed hellbent on asking every infantilizing question anyone has ever invented about trans people. That was one very very very strenuous "conversation"!

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plateee 36 points 17 days ago

Cripes. "you don't need to feel dysphoria" is right up there with asking a depressed person "Have you tried not being sad".

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DaPorkchop_ 15 points 17 days ago

...oh. i initially read that as "you don't need to feel dysphoria [to be trans]" and wasn't sure what the problem was.

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plateee 7 points 17 days ago

I thought based on the other non-supportive statements it was meant in the more dismissive way.

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DaPorkchop_ 7 points 17 days ago

(i assumed that much based on context, but couldn't figure out how it could be interpreted dismissively until seeing the comparison with "have you tried not being sad")

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Mouselemming 11 points 17 days ago

Sounds like the outline of a letter:

"I enjoyed seeing you, but I feel like I spent so much of our time together defending myself and my choices that it was only afterwards that I started realizing something about our conversation.

Are you sure you're the gender you're trying so hard to express yourself as? Maybe you're actually a lot more like me than you let yourself imagine. Maybe that's why you feel you need to change me.

You're very determined to direct my life path, but have you not thought even for a while that you might be wrong? Maybe even wrong about your own? I recommend you think about that possibility! As a trans woman I don't need to feel dysphoria anymore, I know my gender and embrace it. I'm not just okay, I'm pretty perfect, and so much better than I was before. So if you want to stay as you are, I won't judge you, but perhaps you could try to be happy for me instead of jealous.

You’re always being so transphobic, is this just about you hating women? Hating trans people? Hating me? Or hating your own dysphoria? Whatever it is, your misogyny is keeping you from being a whole person."

(Of course this is just me having thoughts over here on the internet, not telling you to say or do anything. You're pretty perfect as you are.)

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samus12345 5 points 17 days ago

I guess my brain just doesn't work like that. My first reaction would be to just - believe it! And if I knew the person well enough, I might ask questions because I'm insatiably curious like that.

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Lehmuusa 6 points 17 days ago

Yeah. He absolutely had to help me by telling me how to live my life. And somehow assuming that he knows a lot about a subject he has never had to personally encounter before and that I have not come to think in the last few months of any of the things he conjured within 30 minutes.

I mean, he was clearly motivated by a will to be helpful. But yeah, the result was just ridiculous. And I don't think I'll be bothering to spend time in his company all that much in the future. A will to help in order to get a good feeling for having helped is one thing, a will to help in order to make someone else's life better is another thing.

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samus12345 3 points 17 days ago

You didn't ask him to help you find out if you were trans, you were telling him because already knew! It's incredibly invalidating to tell a person something about yourself and them have them question it, like they know you better than you do.

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Cass 4 points 17 days ago

Your friend sounds a lot like my self doubts (yes I am doing all this just because it makes it less weird to hate men, duh /s), I'm glad I haven't met him

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rumschlumpel 42 points 17 days ago

Most people are like this about pretty much every chronic issue... fucking sucks.

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Malica 40 points 17 days ago

I handled it so badly when my son came out to me. I just kept getting images of him being abused by transphobes, getting hurt, dying. I freaked the fuck out and said a bunch of shit like this. I deeply regret it. If your kid comes to you with something like this, if you need time, take it, do anything other than word vomit nonsense at them. I'm lucky my boy is so great, but I have no doubt I probably hurt him with my outburst.

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waterwasamistake 35 points 17 days ago

I am not trans but i get sooo frustrated with people even if they are "supportive".

Like i had a huge fight with a friend bc he said that medical intervention should only be allowed for adults and i was like, the parents of the kids, the kids themselves, their physicians and psychologists says its good for them and statistics agree too and he just wouldn't stop saying " its just my opinion its just my opinion, why can't you accept my opinion" Because your fucking opinion is WRONG objectivly WRONG. You didn't do the tiniest bit of research, you do not have a single argument, i layed it out step by step for you and you still come to the wrong conclusion just say i don't know enough to have an opinion on this but if you form one and voice it you gotta defend it ESPECIALLY when this community is under threat and your stupid ass "opinion" based on nothing might make the differnce for trans people if they keep their rights or not.

It shouldn't be controversial to expect that people base their opinion on more than a gut feeling. If you feel "passionate" enough stating your opinion out loud you should feel passionate enough to take like half an hour to get your facts straight. Fucking infuriating .

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jtrek 17 points 17 days ago

just say i don’t know enough to have an opinion on this

It would be so nice if people could do this.

Also admit that they were misinformed or that they need a moment to think about what you've presented. Sometimes it seems like we expect everyone to have an immediate iron clad opinion.

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peacepath 7 points 17 days ago

Is it really that hard? I mean, if the doctor used to follow a given kid say that this specific kid needs a specific treatment, is it so hard to think that doctor could be right? Even when we aren't doctors and do not know the kid?

Even if it should be for something we think usually bad. I guess we agree that cutting a kid's arm is bad, yet some need the amputation for medical reasons, and we would call monsters those who would dare protest and request to let the kid die rather than being amputed.

But so how can it be that if it is for trans related thing we would allow ourself to have an opinion that kid should not have access to the medical care they need? At most, may we could be furious at the crual Nature... but neither at the kid nor at those helping them.

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mokus 2 points 15 days ago

“It’s just my opinion” so I don’t have to defend it but also we should ban stuff based on it even when everyone actually involved in the decision has a different opinion. Why can’t you respect THEIR opinion, Kyle?

If it’s just your opinion then stop forcing it on others. If it’s not JUST your opinion, defend it. Can’t have it both ways.

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SeductiveTortoise 32 points 17 days ago

I'm a cis people, but struggling with mental health and life and ... so many things.

I think "normal" people are just oblivious to most things outside their scope.

"You're depressed? Have you tried to be happy?"

"You're feeling burned out? Have you tried to be happy with what you have? Other people have way less!"

Geez, thanks for the idea! I'm much better now!


And sorry for breaking in here. I do not mean harm.

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samus12345 20 points 17 days ago

"Here we go! With the fuckin' smashed hand!"

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TotallynotJessica 20 points 17 days ago

Don't be sorry. It really is a similar type of frustration

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aberrate_junior_beatnik 7 points 16 days ago

"Have you tried to be happy with what you have? Other people have way less!"

Yes and when I think about how other people are worse off, it makes me feel like a piece of shit for feeling bad despite being better off, which amazingly does not help me feel happy

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CameronDev 30 points 17 days ago

Have you tried prayer? (Do I need /s?)

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PinkiePieYay2707 35 points 17 days ago

Yes, I have tried praying for big tits. Sadly, god did not bless me with them.

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TotallynotJessica 25 points 17 days ago

Don't pray for big tits, lift yourself up by your bra straps! God helps those who help themselves 😤

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CameronDev 15 points 17 days ago

Greatest tragedy of our time :(

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Clent 14 points 17 days ago

"Tried Prayer. She's a terrible lay and I'm still trans."

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compostgoblin 23 points 17 days ago

YUP. Do they think transitioning was the first thing I tried? Or maybe it was the end result of a decade of “untreatable” anxiety and depression, plenty of therapy, self-reflection, being in the queer community, and talking to other trans people?

Turns out the anxiety and depression is pretty treatable after all, thanks E!

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Kushan 16 points 17 days ago

Cis person here. I cannot comprehend what it's like to be trans.

I don't mean that in a disparaging way, I mean I literally cannot comprehend it because I am comfortable in my own gender. I can only imagine what it might be like if I was born with the opposite gender yet am exactly how I am otherwise. Is that even a valid thought? Would I be exactly the same otherwise, or would I be entirely different thanks to the trauma of have no understanding of my own body?

I literally have no idea at all. None.

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samus12345 7 points 17 days ago

One way to get an idea is to imagine if everyone started called you by the wrong pronouns, and if you corrected them, they reacted with confusion or outright hostility. I'm apagender, so I can't actually be misgendered. The closest I can come to that is being called "it", which I don't feel represents my humanity, but even that's not quite the same thing.

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gandalf_der_12te 4 points 16 days ago

uhm, i think a matching analogy would be if you really like fresh air, because you need to breathe obviously, but you're stuck in a stinking city and have no legs to walk out of it. medication is the wheelchair that allows you to move regardless.

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manuallybreathing 16 points 17 days ago

Cis people suddenly pretending they love and support feminine men always gives my brain a tickle, but also i was already a fae man, no thanks, but also, everyone thinks i'm just a femme man, checkmate

:(

:)

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GreenBean 13 points 16 days ago

Not trans here, Mentally ill, so know a little of your frustration when given "advice" for what you should have, should do, blah, blah, blah. I've been told to "just be happy". Asked "why are you depressed?". Told "Don't worry, you'll get over it soon. I always do.". Nobody knows exactly what goes on in anybody else's mind. People with diagnoses like mine have an idea of what's going on in my head (somebody should), but never exactly. Noone should offer me advice, share my diagnoses/what I've shared with them or judge me at all for what I am. Likewise I should provide everyone the same respect.

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poke 12 points 17 days ago

I worry a lot if I'm coming across like this to my trans friends. Its really hard to fight the urge to try and "help" when I see those I care about in deep distress. I worry about them a lot.

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tmyakal 14 points 17 days ago

When my egg cracked and I came out to my partner, they went down a rabbit hole of YouTube videos and articles about how to be supportive and helpful. At one point, while they were bingeing all this stuff, they woke me up in the middle of the night, crying and apologizing for all the suffering and pain they read about these other trans people going through because they assumed I was having the same experience.

I sat them down and explained that not every trans experience is the same. I came out in the unique position of having a super supportive partner, utterly indifferent friends, and a work-from-home job. Realizing my gender and having the person I love be happy for me and supportive of me has been the most transformative experience of my life. Not because I'm painting my nails or shaving my legs, but because knowing myself, being allowed to like myself, and knowing that I'm loved and accepted for that has helped lift a 30+ year fog of depression and anxiety.

If you want to help your friends, just ask them what they need and do that. They should have a fair idea of what help they want.

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DaPorkchop_ 12 points 17 days ago

the fact that you worry about that says you're already doing better than most people :)

my kneejerk reaction to people complaining about things is also to propose solutions, and i've only relatively recently realized that often people complain as a way of venting stress/other emotions, not as a request for ideas. i've found that bluntly asking if people are looking for support or just trying to vent works wonders, although YMMV if your friend group is less neurodivergent than mine. an offer of a hug is a good option too :)

wrt to your trans friends, honestly the best help you can give in most situations is just treating them as their preferred gender.

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Stolas 12 points 16 days ago

To be fair this is just how people are in general. I'm not saying it's good, but people always seem to make assumptions regarding your knowledge of your own feelings and not trusting you to act in your own best interests.

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gandalf_der_12te 5 points 16 days ago

also, it's frequently just a way to get a conversation started. not about this topic in particular, but in general.

i.e. a coworker asks me "hey, my computer's not working, the screen's constantly black". and i will ask them, "well, did you check the cable connections" while knowing full well that they 100% obviously checked that. but i just say it anyways, to get the conversation rolling.

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NightFantom 4 points 16 days ago

There's two options here

  • I'm only 40% convinced they even did anything on the list of questions I'm going to ask because it's always them
  • I'm trying to start a conversation
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TotallynotJessica 2 points 16 days ago

This is why I'm a misanthrope

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Stolas 3 points 16 days ago

Sorry that you have to deal with it. People making assumptions is never pleasant.

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ImgurRefugee114 12 points 17 days ago

"You don't like SRS because you think it's an abomination

I don't like SRS because I need more gocks in my life

We are not the same"

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TotallynotJessica 9 points 17 days ago

but premium pussy 😔

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southsamurai 11 points 16 days ago

Yes, but have you tried a regimen of hormones, lifestyle changes and living your best life?

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Daft_ish 11 points 16 days ago

"Im concerned about this for a whole five seconds and then will never think about it again."

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AeonFelis 9 points 17 days ago

Okay, but have you considered that these people are world experts on anything and everything and that their insights and advice are magnificent gifts humanity should be grateful for?

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TotallynotJessica 10 points 17 days ago

Yes, and I've realized that they actually offer negative insight and are actively detrimental to humanity

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HalfSalesman 7 points 17 days ago

I have questioned my own gender a lot in the past few months and on and off throughout my life. I've kind of come to the conclusion that I'm gender ambivalent with a lot of traits that mean I probably would of had a better life had I transitioned to a woman a long time ago but now don't really see the point.

And before you guys say it is "never too late", remember I said "gender ambivalent" I don't identify as any gender. I would have been a hot woman, now I wouldn't be. ATM I'm a relatively hot scrawny (by american standards) older guy. The trade off's for me are not worth it.

If I realized "Oh hey actually I 100% just identify as a woman" sure. I'd probably do it even at this age (about to be 38). But its more either would be fine, identity wise, I just wish I had figured out I was gender ambivalent and would have been significantly happier making an early transition for practical social purposes.

My personality is a mismatch. I'm not a masculine person in key ways. This has led to consistent relationship issues.

I do often idly hope that making medical science will reach a point where we can have anti-aging tech that would effectively give us all access to indefinite youth. I'd probably transition then but that's probably a pipedream unless we're just before some kind of exponential curve. Finger's crossed I guess.

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Cass 6 points 17 days ago

"Older guy" made me think retirement age, not 37. Anyway I considered myself gender ambivalent for a couple years (or I guess apagender, as in apathy) and I don't think I really grasped that it's still a trans identity, and a pretty cool one too. It's worth doing something with it (for me that just meant going by Any pronouns online)

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HalfSalesman 1 point 13 days ago

I go primarily by he/him because that's just been my life experience and my presentation. I'm a very practical person in that way.

If I was like, toying with HRT at low dose or going for an explicitly androgynous look and chose to experience that way for a while though, sure.

This isn't a prescription for others. Just me.

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leggysnakegirl 4 points 16 days ago

older guy

37

🤨 That's really not too old

^Also, while I can't tell you who you are, I'm not sure the word ambivalent is an accurate word to describe someone would be "significantly happier making an early transition".^

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compostgoblin 3 points 16 days ago

Not speaking for OP here, but it did make me think about my own experience. For so long, I had the thought of “well, I’d transition if I could, but I’d be such an ugly woman, so what would the point be anyway?”.

It’s super fucked up, but I even felt bad for my younger sister because I was like “oh, darn, she is doomed to be ugly when she grows up, because we have the same parents and look alike.” (Never fear, she’s absolutely adorable!) Even after I accepted I was nonbinary at 26 I was like “well, I’m too old to transition now, so I’ll never take hormones or tell anyone, so it’s no big deal, I’ll just keep it to myself.” And I told myself that I was ambivalent about my gender either way (spoiler: I was not actually ambivalent lol)

It’s amazing the backflips my brain did to try to avoid accepting that I’m a trans woman. Anyway, I’m 30 now and on HRT for 7 months, and I’ve never felt better about myself! Never going back 🥰

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HalfSalesman 1 point 13 days ago

I’m not sure the word ambivalent is an accurate word to describe someone would be “significantly happier making an early transition”.

Oops also meant to respond to this bit.

I would have been happier transitioning earlier for practical social and romantic purposes, not dysphoria/identity reasons. Those reasons no longer apply nearly as well. If I transitioned now, things would become socially and romantically worse for me.

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HalfSalesman 1 point 13 days ago

I don't normally have access to this account outside work hours and I took Monday off. So late reply.

That’s really not too old

Its all relative, but generally and scientifically speaking, at 42 the human body seems to undergo a statistically significant acceleration in aging at the cellular level, regardless of how healthy of a lifestyle you've otherwise lived.

Other than maybe my drinking (which I started late in life anyway) and sporadic exercise, I've lived a fairly healthy lifestyle most of my life with a solid skin routine and minimal sun exposure. I look like I'm in my later 20's. I will go from that to looking like I'm in my 40's very quickly.

I have basically 4 years. And the real problem? I'm very picky, and that simply will never change. I'm just going to have less fun as I age unless I get very lucky. I'd have even less fun if I transitioned.

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YiddishMcSquidish 6 points 17 days ago

"more radical" mfer, maybe they aren't trying to be radical!

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some_guy 5 points 16 days ago

As a cis male, I'm the greatest thinker on trans topics of all time.

I'm kidding, of course. Some people are pretty dumb.

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