There are a few reports coming in from this thread. I'm open to changing my mind on any of the following, but the reason why I haven't taken action on a few of the reports is as follows:

I think that it is both valid to question why these people are covering their faces, while also noting that covering your face isn't "bad" in all cases. The same comment ("if they think they're right, why hide their faces") is also used against protestors when they push against the government. Based on the context, I think that's the point that the other users in this thread wanted to make, but did so poorly. I don't think those other users are in support of the white nationalists in the post, but rather they picked a bad example.

The difference between the two situations comes down to why the face is covered and what power that serves. Generally:

• In rallies such as this, the face covering is for intimidation and group identity, and using anonymity to threaten the targeted minority group. It is also intended to hide the person from their community members, because of shame and embarrassment.
• In protests, the face covering is to avoid retaliation from the authority figures that the person is protesting against. They rarely hide their thoughts and feelings about the matter from their community members.

Again, there is some overlap, but that it is why it's usually more valid to criticize the former and not the latter.

As for the second argument, I think there is a misunderstanding between 'human trafficking' and 'human smuggling'. Human trafficking is almost always defined as the exploitative practice, where the person being moved is being harmed. Human smuggling can take different forms, but it is not necessarily harming the person being moved. The example of the Underground Railroad and the networks that help refugees and victims escape harm, those would fall under the label of "Human Smuggling", but the terms are often confused.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_smuggling

So overall I think the issues in this thread come from users making errors, rather than malice, and so I haven't taken specific moderation actions. But again, open to changing my mind and taking action if more info is brought to light.

The underground railroad needed anonymity.

I don't agree with your argument.

They are all controlled by the same narrator.

Not much different than pop cultures tbh.

Sorry, this is Canada, eh?

Sorry can't kill an ideology with violence only create martyr and future flare up this is a job for education and address socioeconomic factors that allow vulnerable people to be sucked into supremacist gangs.

Society works because human evolution happens at the rate of learning and communicating new behaviors -- exponentially faster and more effective than genetic evolution. The human genome has changed exceptionally little for hundreds of thousands of years, and so called "race" is the fantasy nonsense that its somehow possible to tell the contents of a person's mind just by the light bouncing of their skin.

I don't think its enough to call it stupid, we gotta start attacking the root assumptions that drive the ideology.

With a baseball bat. Right in the nose.

In their defense, it is hard to look in a mirror when you have a white hood on.

I'm probably getting wooshed, but that's a Canadian crosswalk sign.

They all live their lives in a state of constant fear, using any and every real world excuse to stay that way.

When they don't have their masks on, they wear blue.

Settler violence reached abhorrent, crimes against humanity level of evil when the Canadian government, aided by the Catholic church, abducted indigenous children from their homes and forced them into residential schools in an attempt to force their (indigenous people generally) complete assimilation into western norms and culture. Many sufferred horrific abuse while there, many died; the trauma is generational.

These degenerate losers deny it or embrace it.

TRC is a day we set aside to remember them and our need to heal.

Just to add to Brilliants comment, these residential schools were not shut down completely, until 1996.

Somebody replied with what happened already, so I will add that this day (Sept 30th) is Canada acknowledging the crimes of the government and church with Truth and hopefully Reconciliation of those events with the Indigenous people..

But heres the Truth: Our government didn't make it a federal holiday, so only some provinces treat it as a holiday where you can go and watch an indigenous celebration. When it was instituted our Premier (Trudeau) was in British Columbia on the Holiday and rather than meet with the Indigenous leaders at a celebration, he went to his island home to chill out. To me this showed exactly how much Canada cared about Reconciliation.

The town of Kamloops was where one of the most recent unveilings of atrocities of the residential school system. It was a program to "help" the indigenous people adjust to the colonial usurpation of their lands and way of life.

What it actually resulted in massive mistreatment, atrocities, genocide, and erasure of the students in their care.

A site in Kamloops recently(inside the last 15 years) was revealed to have found another 50 ish bodies that were hidden.

The holiday truth and reconciliation was created a few years ago to acknowledge the problem and it was a big deal because it also was the first time the government of Canada officially acknowledged it

@FreddiesLantern Truth and reconciliation is an ongoing process of uncovering painful historical wrongs committed by a government or dominant society, acknowledging the truth, and working to repair broken relationships. - Wikipedia

I think it's something to do with the day the Truth and Reconciliation crashed into the Halo, accidentally releasing the flood. Edit: I kept reading and it's not that.

It's too late now, we already showed them they could march across the whole country and terrorize a city for weeks without repercussions. We need to take more action, absolutely, but I wouldn't call this one a small or easy flame to take out anymore.

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They need to be met by an opposing show of force less this cancer spread.

Rachel Gilmore does fantastic journalist coverage and a great job of calling out specific names and people associated with it. She has been threatened quite brazenly for it, but she's also a badass that continues to do it. We need more Rachels.

I hope the RCMP takes this seriously but knowing cops makes me think they're more apt to protect the fascists from anyone who tries to interfere with their intimidation tactics. I sincerely hope I'm wrong though, this shit is pathetic and needs to stop.

in your tough guy fantasy, only

I know a guy with a raised F-250 with dual rear wheels and upgraded suspension. Unfortunately he's in the photo and you're going to have to ask to borrow it.

Oooh and also completely unrelated, but I wonder how that hydraulic press channel is doing nowadays. I haven't watched in years.

Nah these are homegrown little bitches

Trump’s CIA agents would not be that smart!

They’re beaten up by the cops

Technically they ARE the counter-protest.

Dog whistles can only be heard by dogs. I'm pretty sure 100% of people can see this.

And of course, Facebook is platforming them.

• Nationalist 13
• The Huron County Nationalists
• NationalistCanada

and so many more.

I dunno. I count about... 17 maybe 20 guys? One frag grenade ought to do it. I'm willing to test if violence towards them won't change anything.

I guess you didn't grow up in one of these racist, white nationalist families. As someone who did, your whole blame shifting scenario is absurd. My uncles believe they have a birthright as white men. And they are violently furious that they aren't thriving, at the top of the food chain. Obviously they are proudly MAGA. Of course they aren't thriving, lol, we're not from Texas, Kansas or Nebraska. Their racism ( and sexism) is at insane levels that I guess you can't even fathom.. The loudest laughter I ever heard at a family gathering came when my uncle told this joke: "I don't have a problem with N@##@rs, I think everyone should own one." Ha ha ha. There is no nuance here. To older men in my family, if you are a (stupid, because they all are) women, gay, or brown, or liberal, or Jewish, Muslim or atheist....you are filth. And any suggestion that you are equal deserves immediate, violent response. Sound crazy? Lucky you. I know from experience that kind of family and upbringing is not rare, or strange. It's rampant. Just pick a random American church to visit. The "root", as you say of the problem, is that they are terrible people, completely lacking character. They should be disenfranchised, sterilized and have their children taken from them. That's right. I said it. Democracy can't work if people that mean and stupid can vote. RFK and Trump are what you get if you don't have the stomach for stomping on cockroaches. We need a " Great Proletarian Cultural Democratic Revolution" The USA failed at reconstruction and needs to take another crack at it in earnest. Nationalize Palantir. Stamp out the Idiocracy future.

Reminds me of this video

"Study history to understand how to prevent the rise of nazism in the first place? Nah... i'd much rather threaten to kill people than use my brain."