CIA Report Warns Israel Could Head Toward Civil War, Total Collapse

7 days ago by Felis_Catus_Domesticus to c/world

U.S. intelligence raises fears of civil unrest and state breakdown in Israel ahead of October 27 elections.

avidamoeba 213 points 7 days ago

One of the deepest fractures in Israeli politics has emerged not over opposition to the country’s war crimes—but over who is expected to fight and who is exempt.

In case anyone's confused the contradictions include regrets over what's been done in Gaza.

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NatakuNox 31 points 7 days ago

Yup. Young men pretend to be Haredi for a few years to avoid service so now they only have the ultra theological nuts to draft from.

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blackshirt 12 points 7 days ago

It's:

  1. I want war crimes done by ME.

  2. I want war crimes, but just enjoy watching not risking my life on them.

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njm1314 180 points 7 days ago

CIA reports what Isreal wants them to report. So Netanyahu wants you to think the country is close to collapse. So that he can justify emergency powers to keep himself in power indefinitely.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 58 points 7 days ago

Seems like many prominent politicians are aging, nearing the end of their lives and just want to go out with a bang.

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daychilde 33 points 7 days ago

I wanna go out with a bang. Not explosives, just with a pretty lady. (Like my wife)

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No1 17 points 7 days ago

Blink twice if she's in the room with you

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daychilde 6 points 7 days ago

Well? Did you see? :)

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floofloof 11 points 7 days ago

How like your wife does she need to be?

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daychilde 10 points 7 days ago

Real answer? I can't imagine a scenario where this would happen, wife or anyone else. I won't bore you with my health problems, but very few people facing terminal health issues probably end up having much good sex. lol.

Half-real answer? I mean, technically I'm poly, although not really "practicing". So technically, probably doesn't have to be very much like my wife.

Although given a choice between her or a stranger....... probably go with her. lol.

Half-way serious answers to silly questions amuse me, thus my extraneous reply :)

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SGG 6 points 7 days ago

I would also like to go out with your wife, can be at the same time, no judgement

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daychilde 4 points 7 days ago

Well, as long as we can coordinate on the dying bit, too, of course. ;-)

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PancakesCantKillMe 13 points 7 days ago

"Who sought notoriety by destroying..."

That son-of-a-bitch! It worked!

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 9 points 7 days ago

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Shindo66 23 points 7 days ago

Yeah, the CIA isn't just going to give out info for the sake of giving out info. I dont know what the thought is, but there's something behind it.

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tempest 6 points 7 days ago

You mean they don't just call up Fox News and give out the latest?

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BC_viper 5 points 7 days ago

The central isreal agency?

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agent_nycto 73 points 7 days ago

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WanderWisley 68 points 7 days ago

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ripcord 14 points 7 days ago

That's what I said, out loud, as the comments loaded, right at the instant before this popped up.

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realitista 62 points 7 days ago

Don't threaten me with a good time.

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NateNate60 -47 points 7 days ago
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echodot 42 points 7 days ago

Well given the fact it's currently effectively a dictatorship I can't see how it can degrade any further.

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StupidBrotherInLaw 24 points 7 days ago

Israel has around 90 nuclear warheads with the materials to build up to about 200. The only thing I can imagine being worse is if idiots even more unhinged than their current government acquire and use them. Yes, the bar is that low.

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NateNate60 -7 points 7 days ago
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Madagaskar_sky 11 points 7 days ago

Yes, because disregard all historical background as everyone knows without western enlightenment all brown people revert to their natural state, being terrorists.

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floquant 6 points 6 days ago

So you're saying that worst case, nothing changes? Israel is already an extremely powerful terrorist group with nuclear weapons lol

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jve 1 point 6 days ago
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Goodlucksil 1 point 7 days ago

There's no way the UN wouldn't intervene given they did it before.

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SpacemanSpiff 23 points 7 days ago

Except for all their neighbours they're illegally occupying and all the countries of the region

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MartianRecon 18 points 7 days ago

As they have sown, so shall they reap.

Reap the whirlwind.

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magnetosphere 59 points 7 days ago

Well, I predict LOTS of civil wars in LOTS of places, especially as the environment collapses and basic needs aren’t met.

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harrys_balzac 43 points 7 days ago

If that actually happens, the evangelicals and Millennialists are going to flip out.

Time to stock up on popcorn.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 8 points 7 days ago

Definite popcorn time watching those two groups respond..

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AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor 8 points 7 days ago

I had to read it twice because the first time I read "millenials" and was like wtf? Then I reread it and saw it was saying millenialists.

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harrys_balzac 4 points 7 days ago

After I posted it, I realized that it could easily be misread but I don't know of another term to use to describe Christians who believe in a post-apocalyptic millenium of peace & happiness (as long as you believe in Jesus, that is).

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UsernamesAreForSuckers 1 point 7 days ago
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finallymadeanaccount 38 points 7 days ago

Total collapse? Oh, no. Golly, how awful! I mean, gosh and gee whillikers, I sure hope that doesn't happen. I hope it a lot.

Oh, wait ...

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wjrii 29 points 7 days ago

The August report, titled “Fracture From Within,” was compiled by experts in the CIA’s Red Cell, according to two U.S. sources who described the contents of the report to Drop Site News. The Red Cell, which is the unit responsible for providing “alternative analysis” within the agency, produced the assessment through a combination of open source information and U.S. intelligence.... The CIA’s “red teams” are tasked with developing analysis and ideas that challenge prevailing assumptions and expose groupthink or blind spots that can take hold within the intelligence apparatus.

Basically, this is "what's the weirdest shit that is kinda plausible if things don't go how our consensus expects." Useful I assume, but by definition unlikely.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 9 points 7 days ago

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dogslayeggs 4 points 7 days ago

Yeah, this is just some red-teaming of possibilities.

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kokesh 28 points 7 days ago

Let's hope that happens soon! Holding my thumbs!

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LemUser 28 points 7 days ago

Over what? Half the country likes genocide and the other half likes genocide, too? All these terrorist countries like Israel, the USA and Russia can all go to hell.

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StupidBrotherInLaw 16 points 7 days ago

One side wants to genocide harder while the other prefers a more "civilized" genocide.

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suodrazah 4 points 7 days ago

I wish they'd genocide each other for once ffs

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blackshirt 2 points 7 days ago

I think it's more of a one side wants to genocide and participate in it and the other prefers to just watch and not enlist and risks itself.

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SpacemanSpiff 6 points 7 days ago

This is exactly what I thought. What are they going to fight about exactly? Who gets to genocide the locals first? In Israel you have the far right and the farrer right

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blackshirt 26 points 7 days ago

“As we’re moving forward with further integrating our military-industrial capacity with them, there’s deep frustration that we’re doing this for a country that dragged us into a war we’re losing, a country that spies on us.”

Then fucking stop!

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btsax 25 points 7 days ago

The CIA also spent 13 years hunting Radovan Karadžić, a Serbian who was living a public life in Serbia.

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Muscle_Meteor 12 points 6 days ago

The last place youd expect!

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someguy3 25 points 7 days ago

Could but very unlikely. Guess cia needs to consider everything. Also we need to stop using civil war to mean civil unrest.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 9 points 7 days ago

Yes, very forward looking and specualtive...

Like assassinating Castro with exploding cigars. .

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someguy3 0 points 7 days ago

Huh they don't want Israel to collapse because reasons.

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it_depends_man 22 points 7 days ago

That would be the weirdest possible turn of events.

And like, every single supporter of Israel would be stumped, because they would need to think about which Israel to back.

Absolute cinema. Good idea for a fictional alternate timeline.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 5 points 7 days ago

Yeah if you think Lebanon's political breakup was messy...

This would make that look like child's play.

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andrewrgross 20 points 7 days ago

Yeah.

I know it's natural to feel schadenfreude at the prospect of state collapse in Israel, but fwiw, I don't look forward to it with any joy.

If this is the next phase, so be it. But it will be very, very ugly. The violent collapse of Israel will not lead to relief for Palestinians in the short term.

Still, I've said for years: what Israel is doing to the Palestinians they are doing to themselves. Watching the corrosion of Israeli society, their violence has always looked like a manic frenzy of mass-self harm.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 6 points 7 days ago

I’ve said for years: what Israel is doing to the Palestinians they are doing to themselves.

wow. that is honestly the first original thought I have heard about the ongoing troubles between these 2 groups of people fighting over the same land, both claiming it to be their own, exclusively..

something in the same spirit, but from a different era, different war..

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NoneOfUrBusiness 5 points 7 days ago

The violent collapse of Israel will not lead to relief for Palestinians in the short term.

How so? Presumably they won't have time to kill Palestinians if they're too busy killing each other, and while that is a gruesome thought it's not more gruesome than what's already happening.

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andrewrgross 11 points 7 days ago

My suspicion is that a collapse in the Israeli state would look a lot like the present, spiraling out of anyone's control: the settler terrorists would further ratchet up attacks in the West Bank; soldiers in the West Bank would harass and kill more brazenly, without fear of even the limited accountability that can come from a toothless denouncement or a suspension. Soldiers in Gaza might move from checkpoints and bombing runs to militia pogroms driving through streets gunning down civilians. The limited protections for the relatively privileged Arabs & non-Jews within the '48 borders could evaporate: mobs dragging women from their homes for sexual violence and murder in the daylit streets. And all of this would likely be in a shroud of fog, as the limited journalistic capacity that occasionally breaks through to international attention is drowned out by attention on riots in the imperial core of the nation.

In the long term, this could be a step towards a better future. But in the short term I would expect a shift from organized military-led genocide to a more traditional form of rabid mass ethnic killing.

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FaceDeer 7 points 7 days ago

It's hard to believe, but Israel currently has restraint. Yes, they're slow-motion genociding the Palestinians in a grindingly cruel manner, but the reason it's slow-motion is because they have endless debates and factions and desire not to completely rip their masks off while the rest of the world watches and could maybe react on some level.

If Israel turns into full blown civil war all that restraint goes away. If you're already at the point where you're willing to gun down fellow Jews, why not mow down a bunch of Palestinian refugees along the way? If you're not even in control of all of Israel, where can you move Palestinians to get them out of your way? Just kill 'em.

I have no idea what is best in the short term. I have no idea what is best in the long term. Israel is just fucked. I wish there was some way for all the people who want to kill each other to just go ahead and do that without everyone else getting trapped in the crossfire.

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teslekova 1 point 7 days ago

Israel has nukes. Civil wars often involve some previously unauthorised score-settling by various elements who are no longer suppressed.

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teslekova 1 point 7 days ago

They'd pick the worst one. They already did, after all.

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Harvey656 18 points 7 days ago

The one time in my life I hope to god the CIA is right.

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Phanlix 5 points 7 days ago

Probably too much to hope that they all kill themselves. I've been waiting to see Israel get theirs since it came out in ~2005 that they were conducting medical experiments on prisoners, including children.

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biofaust 14 points 7 days ago path: 0 26186280, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 1
blackshirt 6 points 7 days ago

😘

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thesohoriots 11 points 7 days ago

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Craccoon 11 points 7 days ago

Good. The state of Israel is evil.

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Mulligrubs 11 points 7 days ago

There's already a civil war right next door in Syria, with Turkey, USA, Russia, Israel, Kurds, too many to list fighting. Hundreds of thousands of people dead, years upon years of war.

SUPER WAR

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LaunchesKayaks 10 points 6 days ago

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robomuffin79 10 points 7 days ago

Hopefully we see a repeat of the famous kingdom of Israel and kingdom of Judah split

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 2 points 7 days ago

Interesting variation on history repeating itself. Who is Bibi in all of this? Herod Antipas?

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dogslayeggs 9 points 7 days ago

A) US Intelligence says a lot of things.

B) Do you think Trump would allow any kind of major unrest in Israel right now?

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FarceOfWill 48 points 7 days ago

I'm sure he's asking grok how to stop it right this minute.

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Kirp123 14 points 7 days ago

Grok: nuke it

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SkyezOpen 15 points 7 days ago

Ah yes, the zero state solution.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 0 points 7 days ago

Wow! Nailed it!

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criscodisco 3 points 7 days ago

ChatGPT: Bop it.

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Grimy 1 point 7 days ago

AGI has been reached

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ViatorOmnium 22 points 7 days ago

B) the same Trump that screwed up the US's grip in the middle east and ruined the world economy in the process, or the Trump that surrendered to the Taliban?

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dogslayeggs 2 points 7 days ago

And that all enriched him and his friends/family significantly. Israel, however, likely has real dirt on him and his family, so protecting them is in his best interest.

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veniasilente 1 point 7 days ago

Yes?

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jobbies 16 points 7 days ago

Do you think Trump would allow any kind of major unrest in Israel right now?

In the end Trump only cares about Trump. He will do or say anything to enrich himself or curry favour. Israel isn't as important as you'd think.

He'd probably throw his own mother under a bus to 'win' the midterms. Or for $2k

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dogslayeggs 3 points 7 days ago

Agreed. But the Mossad, Israeli's spy org, was heavily connected to Epstein. You might have heard of him and his connection to Trump. If Trump is at all worried about what info on him they have, he might be willing to protect them to protect himself.

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nightwatch_admin 3 points 7 days ago

I believe he is quite beyond that; about a third of the US population supports him no matter what, including the worst of the Epstein stories - the the third that is also probably the most violent and will always do his bidding.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 2 points 7 days ago

He’d probably throw his own mother under a bus to ‘win’ the midterms.

or any of his wives.

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daychilde 2 points 7 days ago

Do you think Trump would allow

Do you think Trump can allow or disallow anything???

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dogslayeggs 1 point 7 days ago

Do you think the US military can't come in and help stabilize a government that is experiencing internal fighting? Do you think financial aid to a sitting government doesn't help it deal with civil infighting?

Do you think Trump has any qualms whatsoever giving away taxpayer money or sending in the US military if it helps him somehow, like maybe because Netanyahu has dirt on him?

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frongt 2 points 7 days ago

Trump doesn't have the capability to allow or disallow anything in Israel.

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dogslayeggs 1 point 7 days ago

He can send in the US military to protect Netanyahu and stabilize the established government. He can also send financial aid to help fund whatever infighting they have.

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insanemantis 1 point 7 days ago

As if Trump's the one running the show. He's more of a mascot of the US empire than anything. Takes all the punches while the secret government of oligarchs remains invisible

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 1 point 7 days ago

C) both A and B

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NocturnalMorning 8 points 6 days ago

Government, meet the consequences of you own actions. Happy to introduce you.

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Cornpop 8 points 7 days ago

That would be dreamy.

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Lushed_Lungfish 8 points 6 days ago

insert Michael Jackson popcorn meme

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 1 point 6 days ago
For 1200 years under the Ottomans, the Ottomans owned everything, and the local inhabitants were simply allowed to reside on the land

Not true again, read about the Ottoman Land Code of 1858 for instance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...

In 1858 the Ottoman Empire introduced The Ottoman Land Code of 1858, requiring land owners to register ownership. The reasons behind the law were twofold. (1) to increase tax revenue, and (2) to exercise greater state control over the area.

Opposition

Small farmers, however, saw no need to register claims, for several reasons:

Land owners were subject to military service in the Ottoman Army
General opposition to official regulations from the Ottoman Empire
Evasion of taxes and registration fees to the Ottoman Empire

Outcome

The registration process itself was open to manipulation. Land collectively owned by village residents was registered in the name of a single landowner, with merchants and local Ottoman administrators registering large stretches of land in their own name. The result was land that became the legal property of people who may have never lived there, while locals, even those who had lived on the land for generations, became tenants of absentee owners.


These were the large tracts Jews bought. Non-Jewish "owners" sold out their own "people" for profit in Jewish money. Later in the Ottoman era, when buying inhabited land became troublesome due the land containing existing inhabitants, it became more common for such purchase agreements to stipulate removal of occupants before payment. Owners- even Arab owners- willingly complied with this contractual stipulation, for Jewish cash. Laws can read one way, but the way they are put into practice in reality can hobble them or completely reverse their intent.

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rogsson 7 points 7 days ago

Oh no, don’t threaten me with a good time

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FaceDeer 1 point 7 days ago

I don't think it'll be a good time in the short term.

Long term, maybe. I don't know. But short term it'd result in massacres with no restraint whatsoever, not even what little restraint they have now.

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humanspiral 7 points 7 days ago

It's a stretch, as it is based on resentment among genocidal supporters for ultra orthodox faction not joining IDF. Though, afaiu, they are part of settler violence/theft, and no genocidal faction resents the settler actions, or sides with international condemnation of IDF/settler genocide/theft.

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LogicalDrivel 7 points 7 days ago

Hope it burns to the ground.

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RizzRustbolt 1 point 6 days ago

The sequel.

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insanemantis 6 points 7 days ago

I don't celebrate war or violence of any kind

But if that's how it must go...(͡•_ ͡• )

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 2 points 7 days ago

Ditto

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Uranus_Hz 6 points 7 days ago

Now do the US

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Cherry 2 points 7 days ago

What order of sequence is best?

USA first…..yeh yeh..no Isreal first…yeh yeh, nah….simultaneously….oh interesting,

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CyroSignal 6 points 7 days ago

Why is there a risk of civil war and total collapse ???

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Vex_Detrause 7 points 6 days ago

Looks like a lot of people are not happy with ultra-orthodox population are exempt from military service, increasing food prices and US starting to separate from them. There's also an election on Oct 27. There is also a mention of veterans coming back with PTSD from the war. The CIA research is saying they are on the edge of civil war. But don't quote me as the article has their sources that we can't verify. Also I don't think the CIA research won't be released.

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 5 points 6 days ago

part of me wonders if this isn't part of krasnov's "vote for republicans or the world ends" campaign.

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jve 3 points 6 days ago

Perhaps the article could shed some light on the subject.

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wondrous_strange 6 points 7 days ago

Where is the report?

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carpelbridgesyndrome 9 points 7 days ago

I have no lost love for Israel but this site is one of the worst propaganda rags I've seen in a while. This is the same site that tried to claim protesters in Iran were actually being shot by Israel. These people will print anything regardless of how much it smells like bullshit.

Israel is politically unstable right now but hardly at the edge of civil war.

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 3 points 7 days ago

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wondrous_strange 3 points 7 days ago

Yeah I smell bullshit. Although I'd love to see it.

The article itself seems accurate geopolitics wise and also regarding the current status of the Zionist state. But still, I dosnt prove it was produced by cia

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 2 points 6 days ago

that sounds just like what a CIA agent would say

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wondrous_strange 2 points 2 days ago

Curious - how would you know just what a CIA agent would say? :)

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weps 1 point 7 days ago

the report... is out there

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Felis_Catus_Domesticus 1 point 7 days ago

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psx_crab 1 point 7 days ago

Cancerman spotted in the wild

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eurodyne 6 points 7 days ago

Finally, some good news

The end result of any fascist state is them turning on themselves.

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Duamerthrax 6 points 7 days ago

Promise?

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CIA_chatbot 5 points 7 days ago

Good

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HootinNHollerin 5 points 7 days ago

Hopefully

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angstylittlecatboy 4 points 7 days ago

lol

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BauerBender 4 points 7 days ago

That would cause so much suffering to the innocent people that live there...that have been supporting their right wing government in orchestrating genocide.

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RabbitBBQ 3 points 7 days ago

Please put all religious fanatics in the desert and have them nuke each other

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NoneOfUrBusiness 3 points 7 days ago

Fun fact: Even secular wholesome Israelis also want to colonize Palestine (though they're sometimes less enthusiastic about genociding the inhabitants). Chalking this up to religion has nothing to do with reality and is frankly colonialist apologia.

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OldChicoAle 3 points 7 days ago

Sometimes I think about that guy I went to grad school with that posted pro Israel stuff after 10/7. I wonder if he's a doctor now and is treating people. Imagine being a Muslim and the healthcare system putting you in the care of a shit stain zionist. Fuck.

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blackshirt 1 point 7 days ago

Imagine being a Human being and the healthcare system putting you in the care of a shit stain zionist

FTFY

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Quexotic 3 points 7 days ago

And the US will be there either in 26 after. The elections, possibly, or in 28 after the elections.

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UncleArthur 3 points 7 days ago

Oh please! Oh please!

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JustPlainDave 2 points 7 days ago

Sounds great

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Fishnoodle 2 points 7 days ago

Good. It's what they deserve

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myyass 2 points 7 days ago

I can't afford a tiny violin, the best I can do is a poop joke and give you a used piece of toilet paper.

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nkat2112 2 points 7 days ago

I'll be borrowing your line, if you don't mind.

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myyass 2 points 7 days ago

lol thanks

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Tolc 2 points 7 days ago

Inshallah

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veniasilente 2 points 7 days ago

One of the best scenes in WWZ (the movie at least) was watching Israel fall under the zombie weight of their own hubris. Nukes included.

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Sunflier 1 point 5 days ago

Israel is at risk of civil war or state collapse, a classified CIA assessment warns, as years of genocide in Gaza and war in Lebanon and Iran deepen political, economic, and social fractures within the country.

The August report, titled “Fracture From Within,” was compiled by experts in the CIA’s Red Cell, according to two U.S. sources who described the contents of the report to Drop Site News. The Red Cell, which is the unit responsible for providing “alternative analysis” within the agency, produced the assessment through a combination of open source information and U.S. intelligence. The assessment appears to refer only to Israel’s Jewish citizens and does not consider its Palestinian citizens, who make up approximately 20% of Israel’s population and who live under various forms of discrimination that Amnesty International and other human rights groups have labelled as part of a broader system of apartheid. The CIA did not respond to a request for comment.

CIA experts pointed to a volatile mix of pressures converging ahead of Israel’s elections on October 27: economic crisis and soaring military spending; heavily armed veterans returning from prolonged combat, many carrying serious psychological trauma; growing fury over ultra-Orthodox men who are exempt from military service; escalating settler violence in the occupied West Bank; and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu fighting to hold onto power and igniting a constitutional crisis.

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orlyowl 1 point 7 days ago

Personally I find it far more likely to happen in the US currently.

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rounding_error 1 point 7 days ago
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Gpennyhigh 1 point 6 days ago

They could use critical thinking and Sagan's baloney kit to escape supernatural dogmatic systems and see what healthier ways there are to live. Yes, do that and stop the violence and suffering, caused by the wealth/power inequality that benefits men, designed by them into the unhealthy supernatural systems, that punch down on others in the hierarchy.

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UsernamesAreForSuckers 0 points 7 days ago
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