I think there needs to be a space between the 3 colons and "spoiler": https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/02-media.html

While it does seem to work either way on default LemmyUI, it might not work in some clients, including official Jerboa Android app.

What about sealionig? https://vger.to/lemmus.org/comment/20070879

I don't think that's a good way to proceed.

You might be blaming victims of false allegations of rape with that, and trust me, I know well how it feels to be raped and to be a victim of false allegations, and both are equally horrible and damaging for anyone who has to live with them.

You can't really say you want to encourage difficult conversations while at the same time threaten to just block and ban people. That's not having a conversation. That's just surrounding yourself with people who only share your opinion. Even if your opinion is probably the moral one.

Extend it to downvoting ;)

Is Pizza Cake a controversial artist? Genuine question, because I personally haven’t seen any strips that would make me dislike her. But I also only see the ones that get upvoted on Lemmy.

I guess there will be some chuds who dislike comics like this one, which clearly advocate for something. But that’s pretty standard chud behavior, not limited to any one specific artist.

JFC, this is the first I've heard of this story. Shit like this is why all frats need banned from every university. They're all shit

This aint reddit.

1. Get on grapheneOS or Linux ASAP.
2. perps

   

My screenshots get listed by Photos but not Downloads. I downloaded the Sun's group shot and screenshotted it with expected results, unable to reproduce (old S21 defaults, no Google backups).

That might also just be a bug.
I've had issues with downloaded photos appearing in Google Photos before, usually based on download source. For example, downloading a picture via Termux would cause it to not get detected by Google Photos, however renaming the file in Google Files would solve this.

Even years later, when I tell my story I get victim blaming comments, even from people I otherwise trusted. I no longer bring it up outside of with other women I feel safe with.

You missed the title so your spoiler didn't work.

::: spoiler add literally anything here

Sorry. Typically I post the 4 panel versions when artists do the combined uploads, but this one didn’t have that and I usually try to respect the medium and titles the artists give to their work. I thought about giving this one a couple different titles but ultimately settled on leaving the authors comment as is. As the content would be upsetting for many readers I decided to bury the main content in a spoiler warning to avoid a NSFW tag and respect the original post.

I'm on piefed. The comic is under a TW in the post body

On Lemmy, the actual comic is in the description

This, in one form or another, can be said about all religions.

Ban all religions

That's a bit reductive, isn't it? Are you saying that all christians would blame someone for speaking up? It feels like it, regardless

Faith is not the evil here, staying hung up on what some people said centuries before us without giving second thought is. And some people do think it over when thinking about their faith. I don't think it's fair to them to say that their own faith is the cause of such hate and sedentarism

So, I've read your comment in full and I've thought about how to respond to this.

This comic, while it does reference a current event with the Cornell 7, also portrays the type of thoughtless and harmful comments victims of rape are forced to endure.

I think you probably already knew your remarks are in line with the type portrayed in the final panel given you felt the need to add a massive text disclaimer and noted yourself that your remarks would "sound unpopular".

1. You're trying to justify the type of remarks in the final panel rape victims often end up hearing. Those type of remarks are not "reasonable".

You start off with "rape, sexual abuse, and other improper sexual behavior ... it's a serious problem we need to address" and then follow it up immediately with a "but". There is no "but" here. A woman was gang raped for 7 hours and nothing happened to the perpetrators and this type of thing is all too common for women who live through this kind of thing and then are told to "get over it".

1. You're downplaying the women who aren't believed or never see justice.

I understand you went through a similar situation, as did your mother, and that is absolutely terrible. I'm sorry to hear that to both of you and it's awful that your abuser was never held accountable.

Like I said, I spent a while thinking about how to address your remarks, and it's specifically because you shared your experience, but I have a feeling that was the intent here and I feel like you're using your own trauma as a shield for your other remarks.

You bring up an instance on Discord where someone felt uncomfortable from your interactions and then later talked about it in a vent channel. I don't know the situation, but I do question your use of terms like "simps".

"I barely managed to be found innocent, but she wasn't held accountable either," Dude their Discord mods, what do you want? Take those things to court, not social media mods.

"In the end, she was a woman and I was just a man. Women-are-wonderful effect in action." And yet if the world worked like that maybe more women would get justice for the crime committed against them.

"And that happens a lot, and even if the statistics are low" this just personal experience bias.

1. Your main argument is just whataboutism. Example: a black man is shot and killed by a cop, people riot. So cops cry "well what about all the cop deaths". This isn't about false allegations. This is about a very real rape that happened and something that many women have to deal with.

Your closing remarks are:

"Yeah, you can't take it back and cry rape everytime you regret having sex with anyone, because you can be the one doing false allegations too."

"Yeah, sometimes someone can tell that has been raped because that's an easy way to destroy someone's life and earn free money from the victims' help programs, stealing resources from actual victims."

And you end it with "Support both kinds of victims"

Basically you refute the situation shown here and end it with a "All Lives Matter" type of statement.

So yes, I will be removing your comment as it does not belong here. This is about rape and what victims go through and is not the place for your remarks.

Coming in with the "both sides are actually bad" when talking about the ungodly massive amount of rape that occurs and the teeny tiny small percentage of false accusations that happen is a truly adolescent, apologist, and downright horrible take.

"Won't somebody please think of the rape gangs feelings!?"

"You can't take it back" refers to rescinding consent during the act, not after the act. You can agree to something and then back out. That is what consent is all about.

Nobody is saying that false reporters don't exist, nor are they saying that people who will claim rape after the fact (who agreed to the act but have second thoughts after the act is over) don't exist, nor are they saying they don't support the victims of false reporters.

That is not the subject of this comic and is not what is being talked about here.

The absolute best thing to do for all parties involved is to get verbal consent from both parties and to keep seeking that consent throughout the act, and to do such while both parties are sober and know what is going on.

If you want to protect yourself from false allegations, that's my advice. If you want to protect yourself from sexual assault and rape, it's more complicated and there are a lot more things you can do and variables to worry about, but that doesn't mean this advice isn't good for that too.

This is rape apology that ignores that cases of false accusation are such a small fraction of overall reports of rape that if you actually think critically, which you are saying to do, you will assume every woman who reports a rape is telling the truth.

Rape is not a case by case basis, rape is overwhelmingly undereported and again, the overwhelming majority of those accusations are real. The rate of "false" reports isn't even as black and white as you think, if you look at a study, see what those study considers "false".

if the artists intent had been lost on some of the audience, i could see this argument. like if they'd used some of the internet acronyms that made it so some readers couldn't tell what they were trying to say, then some meaning would have been lost.

but as this is, there is no question what those words are supposed to be. i had no trouble understanding the message and feeling the weight of it.

i understand your frustration but i feel like you're diminishing or dismissing the impact that's clearly still intact based on a distaste for something the clankers have forced many artists into to prevent being censored.

The artist feels it's more important that the message is able to be shared widely.

Normally I might agree with you, but I think this is a good example of talking about the problem being viewed more harshly than the problem itself. I don't know if that was part of the "artistic vision" but think it's fairly appropriate to the topic.

I'm sure cannedtuna isn't crying about it.

Oh no, blocked by a rapist, how awful!

Why?!

The referenced comics, linked in this thread, involve a fetish involving the permission to cum.

I don't know how you're missing that and making it the basis of hypocrisy.

You got a link to that?

Are you intentionally being dense or did you not read the first paragraph of her explanation where she explains its depicting a roleplay scenario? Or, an even dumber take, do you just equate all BDSM with rape? Regardless you're being a fucking idiot.

Of course it is dramatic! We should not expect people to brush off and ignore assault like it’s a stubbed toe.

I truly believe the world right now is going through an empathy crisis what with the rise of the far right. Humans evolved empathy to better survive and take care of each other. Our neoliberal capitalist world rewards narcissism, individuality, and exploitation. The literal opposite of empathy. It's being un-learned, people are literally devolving because of profit and systemic abuse and violence perpetuated by those at the top.

And you are perpetuating that. Downplaying the lived fucking reality of countless women is utterly disgusting. Real life is dramatic. Because it's real. It's horrible. It's painful. It's terrifying. But that is what this woman absolutely went through. And so many others have as well. And it stays with them their entire lives, constantly following them, the trauma coming back when the body and mind attempt to protect them from experiencing that trauma again.

The state of education is so piss poor, and it's on purpose such that we remain divided so that those on top can continue to escape accountability. Everyone should be educated dramatically about what went on here. Because this is not uncommon. There should be better education of what rape is and it shouldn't be censored or hidden away, it should be given the weight it's deserved. And drug use should be educated as well. The effects, ensuring it's done safely, that there's no such thing as consent when mind-altering substances are involved.

I'm glad this case is getting people to talk. Because it's really exposing how so many people lack empathy and can't see themselves in the position of others. It's getting people to talk about what consent and rape really is. But man is it tough to see so many people downplay the situation and even blame the victim for what happened, or even outright deny that anything happened at all.

And to tie this little essay in a bow, it tends to be those who lack empathy. Which empathy correlates with higher intelligence which correlates with not being a conservative, fascist freak. It's all connected in the end. And we're living through an empathy crisis brought on by neoliberal capitalism and its focus on individuality that places the fault of all bad outcomes on the individual. That is the fight we find ourselves in today.

Be radically empathetic.

No.

If you e ever known someone who has gone through that, it's actually a bit light.

The fuck is wrong with you?

No.

Is it, though?

You're stupid

Don't breed