I Hope Rexxitors Tone Down the Low-Hanging Comment Chains on Lemmy.

3 years ago by win95 to c/lemmyworld

I loved Reddit for what it is, but nothing made me back out of a post faster than seeing the top 3 parent threads as a regurgitation of the same inside jokes, pun-chains, and so on.

Barrelephants 151 points 3 years ago

Glad to see one of the first posts I see on here is whining about how other people post. Starting to feel like home already.

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ActuallyASeal 18 points 3 years ago

Just need the people complaining about people complaining post followed by a rule baning complaining about people. Then we can get the golden meta post of complaining about the rule stopping you from complaining about people.

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sping 9 points 3 years ago

When do we get to complain that some people here didn't like something before, but some people now like that thing? Surely soon.

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cookiecollision 5 points 3 years ago

I'll give it until the end of June. By that point, anyone who was going to leave reddit will have left, and new users will come more organically. At that point, the rexxitors will do what redditors do best, which is gatekeep.

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Barbarian 101 points 3 years ago

Don't worry! We'll develop our own new inside jokes to repeat and nauseum!

EDIT: I realized, 4 hours later, than auto-correct had changed "ad" to "and". I'm leaving it as it makes this comment even more obnoxious.

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314xel 42 points 3 years ago

Definitely! We have our own social network, with baccarat and masseuses!

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win95 18 points 3 years ago

All lemmings, take one step off the cliff!

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akvomelono 22 points 3 years ago

first new inside joke: and nauseam 💀

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solstice 2 points 3 years ago

And my ax!

Couldn't help it, sorry

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hemko 1 point 3 years ago
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_number8_ 13 points 3 years ago

yeah but it's charming when we do it

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vocornflakes 8 points 3 years ago

This!!!1111one

God that felt awful to type

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stankmut 5 points 3 years ago

Oh no. I was hoping to not have to see another 'bacons at midnight' type of post within my lifetime.

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squid010 4 points 3 years ago

Agreed, it's gonna get so annoying hearing these jokes and nauseam though.

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mantisteabaggin 3 points 3 years ago

…With blackjack and hookers!

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dialecticcake 87 points 3 years ago

I think it's natural to want the majority of posts to meet one's preferences but what one finds interesting/entertaining/etc. varies for each person.

I love diversity and choice and so I'm happy that each community can have their own individual rules/cultures and we can pick which communities we want to join. E.g., I wouldn't expect the same behaviour/rules/culture in a shit posting community compared to an arch linux community, but I'm glad both types of communities and content will exist.

We can collectively choose what kinds of unique cakes to bake and we can choose which cakes to eat too. :D

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not_woody_shaw 26 points 3 years ago

Sounds like a good AI feature for a Lemmy client app. "✅ I don't want to see comments that only contain a pun."

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1993_toyota_camry 20 points 3 years ago

this was something I loved about slashdot moderation. When voting, people had to specify the reason for the vote. +1 funny, +1 insightful, +1 informative, -1 troll, -1 misleading, etc.

That way you can, for example, set in your user preferences to ignore positive votes for comedy, and put extra value on informative votes.

Then, to keep people from spamming up/down votes and to encourage them to think about their choices, they only gave out a limited number of moderation points to readers. So you'd have to choose which comments to spend your 5 points on.

Then finally, they had 'meta moderation' where you'd be shown a comment, and asked "would a vote of insightful be appropriate for this comment" to catch people who down-voted out of disagreement or personal vandetta. Any users who regularly mis-voted would stop receiving the ability to vote.

I don't think this is directly applicable to a federated system, but I do think it's one of the best-thought-out voting systems ever created for a discussion board.

edit: a couple other points i liked about it:

Comments were capped at (iirc) +5 and -1. Further votes wouldn't change the comment's score.

User karma wasn't shown. The user page would just say Karma: good. Or Excellent, or poor, or some other vague term.

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kool_newt 8 points 3 years ago

Wow, that is pretty fascinating.

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0101010001110100 4 points 3 years ago

This seems like a great system.
I really hate all the reddit awards. I didn't even know they exist until I opened the steve huffman ama in new reddit, and it had about a million awards that were all a different (moving/sparkling) emoji. Facebook has those too, all the little icons for like, haha, sad, heart etc. I find that stuff really distracting to look at and it's one of many reasons i refuse to use facebook, or reddit's official website & app.
Something like you're describing sounds like it would work really well though, especially if there were just maybe different colours or something for the upvote/downvote type, instead of space-wasting icons and images.

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1993_toyota_camry 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah, their layout is dated, but the scoring system doesn't take much room (once you accept the idea that a reply can have a subject line):

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dialecticcake 4 points 3 years ago

That's so dreamy that I created a feature request post linking to your comment. (I also did an @ you but not sure I did that right.)

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samus12345 10 points 3 years ago

Username checks out.

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killerinstinct101 6 points 3 years ago

I wouldn’t expect the same behaviour/rules/culture in a shit posting community compared to an arch linux community

What's the difference?

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kool_newt 6 points 3 years ago

I use Arch btw

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Da_Boom 3 points 3 years ago

Iusearchlinux.fyi

Yes that's actually the instance I'm apart of

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beefbaby182 2 points 3 years ago

Me too!

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dialecticcake 1 point 3 years ago

Nice. I actually don't use Arch Linux but rather Garuda (a derivative of Arch) so I still find the forum helpful. :)

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hemko 1 point 3 years ago
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dialecticcake 1 point 3 years ago

Those were just two random examples. It would depend on whatever rules/guidelines each community owner makes.

Basically each community can have their own rules.

  • Some communities may allow swearing and some may not
  • Some may allow 18+ content and some may not
  • etc.
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gary 83 points 3 years ago

Lemmy will likely have its own "the narwhal bacons at midnight" phase.

It'll interesting to see what it is...and then almost immediately tiresome.

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Dustmuffins 14 points 3 years ago

I think that stuff like that developed when the userbase was pretty young. Don't think something like that will happen again.

At least I hope not...

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Senseibu 26 points 3 years ago

It’s a free society here, if Lemmy really takes off its most likely going to happen and you’re free to partake in the joke or not.

Lemmy is here to serve all, I imagine some hard boundaries around illegal content will be put in place though.

De-federation can happen for that sort of scenario

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Dustmuffins 13 points 3 years ago

Well I'm certainly not above low effort shitposting.

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Goldenderp 3 points 3 years ago

That legal/illegal thing is going to be tricky to figure out. What's illegal exactly in a global federated social network? Whose law applies?

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neblem 5 points 3 years ago

The instance's hosting country's law applies to the instance and the communities it hosts.

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solstice 2 points 3 years ago

I remember cackling at the narwhal nonsense ~15 years ago. Definitely makes me feel old thinking back to those days.

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Acester47 2 points 3 years ago

do you remember when they tried to make Millhouse a meme

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Notyou 6 points 3 years ago

I do say everything's coming up Milhouse sometimes.

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_haha_oh_wow_ 4 points 3 years ago

Wasn't Millhouse was a meme before reddit was a thing? Pretty sure I saw Millhouse memes on 4chan back in the day.

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watson387 2 points 3 years ago

Definitely from the 4chan way-back.

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isVeryLoud 77 points 3 years ago

Damn, we're already gatekeeping in here? Nice.

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BrainisfineIthink 23 points 3 years ago

...nice

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Dalinar 16 points 3 years ago

Nice

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Ozymati 7 points 3 years ago

69

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jimrob4 5 points 3 years ago

nice

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solstice 8 points 3 years ago

It really is fascinating though, having a front row seat to what really is a massive tectonic shift in the history of the internet. Real curious to see how this all plays out. I've been online since the early 90's so I've seen tons come and go: AOL, yahoo, slashdot, livejournal, myspace, digg, etc, and this one feels different for some reason, but maybe its just me.

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isVeryLoud 8 points 3 years ago

This is what web 3.0 is about.

Not crypto, but decentralization.

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druppel 2 points 3 years ago

Web 1: fragmentation Web 2: centralizatiom Web 3: decentralization Web 4: quantum entanglement Web 5: ...

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minimar 8 points 3 years ago

I think it feels different because it's not website B rolling in as a replacement for website A. It's an entire new system for social media, so the way you understand and use it has to shift a bit. I find it exciting, a lot more than if we just shifted to a generic centralised reddit alternative.

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dan1101 6 points 3 years ago

That's crazy, we shouldn't even allow anyone here unless they had at least 1,000 karma on Reddit.

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solstice 2 points 3 years ago
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TigerClawTV 64 points 3 years ago

Are you sure you liked Reddit?

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Presolar_Grains 17 points 3 years ago

This has been my internal dialog for a while now.

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sarsaparilyptus 1 point 3 years ago

I hated reddit and everybody who used it

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NabiscoShredderWheat 64 points 3 years ago

I get what you're saying, but communities that spend time together will form their inside jokes, their way of doing things, etc. If you don't like it you don't have to participate. I say this with the upmost respect, but you need to get over yourself. Nobody is forcing you into a community.

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RomeCallen 8 points 3 years ago

totes agree on that ish

the dumb shit is what makes it feel like a community or friends getting together. if its not that its a college message board for assignments

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_number8_ 6 points 3 years ago

yeah, it's almost a bit intimidating to post here now the fun has settled. you have to think of a whole thought about a somewhat serious topic and sometimes that's just...ugh

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RomeCallen 7 points 3 years ago

ya that hype will die down too

im totally a filthy casual and get the dislike but if lemmy survives and thrives, it will be with the help of shitposters

not everything has to be serious

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redditcandoone 5 points 3 years ago

Thank god. I enjoyed using reddit because I used to shitpost irl and have had to tone it down with work so I need an outlet somewhere...

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Melvin_Ferd 4 points 3 years ago

The relationship advice threads were the weirdest. Someone would post a question like "my wife is sleeping over at her male coworkers place a lot and stopped coming home, should I be worried" and all the answers would be saying they're just jealous and too controlling.

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TheInternetCanBeNice 6 points 3 years ago

You and I must have been in opposite threads there. Because it was weird, but in the opposite way you're describing.

Once saw one where I guy's wife let her sister something close to 1% of their savings because both the sister and her partner had been laid off in one month. The guy went ballistic and move everything out of their joint accounts into ones under his name only, and gave her a strict allowance. People on reddit were telling him that's nowhere enough, he should apparently divorce her right away, and maybe sue her.

They were also convinced that because of this one short term loan the SIL and BIL were now going to think he's a sucker, and they'd move in.

It was weird. Those places often get weird though because people in healthy relationships, or single but happy about it, just don't show up. So you just gave a cycle of people unhappy with their personal relationships goading other equally unhappy people.

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RanchOnPancakes 58 points 3 years ago

So you're saying we should encourage people to not comment and participate because you personally don't enjoy something?

I know I'm being a bit over the top with the wording there but lets really think about it for a moment. Participation is engagement. And if we want Lemmy and by extension Lemmy.World to grow its what we need.

I upvoted you. Its a valid discussion to have. I just personally don't think its something we should be worried about in general.

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TWeaK 57 points 3 years ago

Let Lemmy grow. Growth and low effort pun threads is not what killed reddit. Corporate interference and shit stirring controversy spewing algorithms in the name of "user engagement" is what drove reddit down the drain.

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Shadywack 20 points 3 years ago

This right here. Puns aren't what was bad, it was the endless doomscrolling habit and continuous outrage going on that was. All the Rexxitors are going to see a serious uptick in their mental health. The puns were a coping mechanism, I think here that defensive reaction will be minimized.

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NattyNatty2x4 16 points 3 years ago

No the endlessly repetitive puns were bad. They weren't the only things, but they were absolutely bad.

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johnthebeboptist 8 points 3 years ago

Exactly. Like, I get that people want to have fun and all and I'm all for it even if it's not my thing, but any relevant discussion was constantly drowned out by the pun chains and copypasted shit to the point that it was fairly obviously often just bots, but as long as a few people have their fun fuck the discussion right? Right... but I/you/we gotta be less cynical, as was said above the lemmy algo is apparently better with this stuff. So I'm at least going to try to be a little hopeful.

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RomeCallen 1 point 3 years ago

exactly

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zkxs 51 points 3 years ago

you have my updoot

I jest. Ultimately without some sort of mechanic that disincentivizes noisy, low-effort joke comments there's not going to be some sort of magical cultural shift. I'm just arriving, but from what I'm seeing Lemmy doesn't have any sort of design that will skew comments towards actual discussion and away from jokes/noise in any meaningful way.

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kakes 27 points 3 years ago

The way it is right now, we don't have total "karma", which I imagine helps to at least suppress the purely karma-farming spam. That said, there's no real reason to think it won't be added here eventually.

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Senseibu 17 points 3 years ago

I hope it doesn’t, better without karma, it shouldn’t be competitive really

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Chais 6 points 3 years ago

Never really got the point of Karma to begin with. All it really does is measure how well you match the tone of any particular echo chamber.

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AnonTwo 5 points 3 years ago

If I recall, a minimum karma was used by some mod bots as a gatekeep of sorts on more official subreddits. But even then I don't think it was more than to deter very new accounts.

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hemko 1 point 3 years ago
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_number8_ 2 points 3 years ago

that's really smart -- but at the same time i'm horribly curious

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GhostCowboy76 10 points 3 years ago

I am still learning Lemmy, but I agree with you from what I am seeing. There is no “karma farming” here right? So the motivation is mostly people who want to engage?

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zkxs 6 points 3 years ago

There's no total karma for a user yet, yes. So the perverse incentive to make number go up at all costs isn't quite as wild as it is in Reddit.

As I wander around Lemmy more I'm also noticing that there's a lot of opportunity for instances to have their own subcultures, which goes against the "It doesn't matter which Lemmy instance you use" advice I've seen in a couple places. It definitely seems prudent to choose an instance that has an admin team and/or a theme you like, because instance-local content is going to be the easiest to find. The instance I chose is decently small and chill, but I've seen some other instances with a big focus on memes. To each their own!

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GhostCowboy76 3 points 3 years ago

I agree with you to an extent, but I have noticed on my instance it is heavily populated with outside instances so hopefully as this grows that subculture part will not be as much of a concern and more a fun “extra bonus” if you will of your favored instance and we can still unite under our favorite “common communities."

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railsdev 10 points 3 years ago
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orsetto 2 points 3 years ago

But you could filter out comments containing only "this" or variations with exclamations points and such

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win95 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I was thinking of having some sort of feature that pre-builds thread topics in a post (humor, discussion, cross-searching) where users can put there comments in depending on what it is they're going for.

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zkxs 10 points 3 years ago

I'm also eyeballing Tildes as a Reddit alternative, and their dev has an interesting approach to increasing signal-to-noise ratio. They don't have downvotes, but they have labels that affect how comments are sorted, with the joke and noise labels moving comments down in the sort by a pretty significant amount.

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Senseibu 6 points 3 years ago

Tildes developer has openly said they don’t intend for it be a replacement for reddit, and that kinda is what makes me come here instead.

If they aren’t open to the idea, it will never happen.

Not saying they should open the floodgates either, it’s mainly that the use cases and end goal for Tildes vs Lemmy are completely different

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TheTimeKnife 3 points 3 years ago

That sounds like it could work pretty well, you could even just add it on to other comment sort styles. You don't need to necessarily remove downvotes if you really want them in specific instances.

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mobiuscoffee 2 points 3 years ago

Doesn't Slashdot kind of work like that?

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zurohki 7 points 3 years ago

This comment has been modded +1 (Informative).

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dialecticcake 2 points 3 years ago

Agreed. I think for now it's up to each community owner to set the expectations for their community and for the mods to enforce it. And so like Twitter...the quality of your feed will be dictated by whom you follow or in Lemmy's case which communities you join.

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Da_Boom 49 points 3 years ago

I'm sorry.. but the pun threads are legendary. I actually hope they at the very least, continue.

It always puts a smile on my face.

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dystop 32 points 3 years ago

...and my axe!

am i doing this right?

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Melvin_Ferd 15 points 3 years ago

And the name of that axe was ...

Albert AxEinstein

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nephs 8 points 3 years ago

Take my upvote! And my !silver

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necrxfagivs 3 points 3 years ago

This is the way

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Bewilderbeast 7 points 3 years ago

This guy axes.

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gawdahm 3 points 3 years ago

That's what she said! B)

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dystop 13 points 3 years ago

ah, the ol' lemmy-fiddy!

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SocialMediyas 18 points 3 years ago

I also choose this guy's dead lemmy-fiddy

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cyberian_khatru 3 points 3 years ago

Hold my broken hands, I'm going in!
GUH

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TheRTV 17 points 3 years ago

I loved the joke threads. People continuing a reference or pun or joke was just a harmless, fun time.

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nailbar 4 points 3 years ago

And don't forget about the song threads!

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JoumanaKayrouz 47 points 3 years ago
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RockyBass 9 points 3 years ago

Unfortunately it's just something I think we're going to have to deal with no matter where you go. Even forums with higher quality users still have lame jokes and puns thrown around.

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newline 3 points 3 years ago

As a Rexxitor, I second this entirely.

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TCGM 46 points 3 years ago

That's your opinion and you're welcome to it, but nothing will kill adoption rates harder than doing the whole early Mastodon thing of "you should change how you behave here"

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mantisteabaggin 8 points 3 years ago

I believe the response you’re looking for is “Well that’s, like, your opinion… man”

spoiler

sorry, couldn’t resist

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TCGM 4 points 3 years ago

Should've thought of that one myself, nice

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SlowNoPoPo 44 points 3 years ago

Don't expect human nature to change just because some ceo of a different company decided to be a greedy dick, honestly

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Master 43 points 3 years ago

I also choose this guy's inside joke!

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ThatOneGuy 20 points 3 years ago

I would, but I broke both my arms.

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a1studmuffin 16 points 3 years ago

sigh unzips

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mlsus 10 points 3 years ago

Actual unzipper

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BlunderWoman 8 points 3 years ago

Call the sexorcist!

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Hildegarde 43 points 3 years ago

Lemmy sorts comments differently from reddit. Lemmy's documentation page about their algorithm describes reddit's algorithm as one that,

rewards comments that are repetitive and spammy.

It's an issue the developers claim to have a solution for.

I have no problem with jokes and comment chains. People should have their fun. But, I deleted my reddit account in frustration years ago. Reddit ranks the jokes higher than relevant discussion.

I'm cautiously optimistic. Lemmy is likely to be less prone to this particular problem.

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DocMcStuffin 31 points 3 years ago

Wow, that's a clever little algorithm. It feels like it could work better.

Reddit's big problem (among many) was you had to get in early on a thread to contribute. Otherwise you could be so far at the bottom you might as well have sent your reply to the bit bucket.

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dystop 15 points 3 years ago

lemmy's algo seems in theory to work better, but we'll only know when the userbase here gets large enough.

On reddit, once a thread got past 300+ comments, the only way to get any views on your comment was to post it as a nested comment in a top-level comment.

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DocMcStuffin 11 points 3 years ago

lol, I realized the same thing and gamed that broken system more than once.

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dystop 14 points 3 years ago

most power users realised that, i think. and that's what led to the pun chains.

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SlappyRedcheeks 6 points 3 years ago

I feel like there is a potential but minor problem with Lemmy's algorithm. It favors new comments but what if the post itself is asking a question with a definitive answer? The best answers might get buried by side discussion as time goes on.

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nephs 4 points 3 years ago

I think as time goes on, I'd assume the recency boost would subside and the upvotes for the definitive answers should float back to the top.

Also, length is probably favoured as well, since so many top content isn't just 3 words.

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bizzwell 42 points 3 years ago

For me, that was part of the charm.

I could still find the information I needed when it was a serious query, and I could still find sound and sensitive viewpoints on many topics. But, opening a horrible post just to see a horribly distasteful comment as the first response just kept reminding me not to take life so seriously.

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captain_americano 22 points 3 years ago

I'm fine with a horribly distasteful comment, but for the love of God make it a unique horribly distasteful comment.

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Dalinar 10 points 3 years ago

I also pick this guys dead wife

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SterlingVapor 3 points 3 years ago

Same. I like it, but it belongs in more shitposty communities IMO. I like a small percentage of my feed to be shitposts, and when I dig into it it's just people repeating twists on the same stupid jokes.

Sometimes it's actually clever, a lot of the time it's just people wanting reassurance they belong.

It's annoying when it overflows and floods everywhere with the exact same joke (like Google en passant). In r/anarchychess they were constantly workshopping new jokes, because it definitely got old

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petrescatraian 2 points 3 years ago

@bizzwell some subreddits did have some dedicated flairs which required everyone to be serious (at the cost of being banned) - but this required the OP to deliberately think about posting the stuff under the right flair.

Maybe this could be also easily enforced here by asking people to append [Serious Discussion] at the beginning of each relevant post, on the title or content?

@win95

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sotolf 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, and you can just fold the first comment in the chain and the whole chain disappears as well, so it's not like it's that much in the way either.

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angrylittlekitty 39 points 3 years ago

the other thing to consider with low effort, duplication of memes is the server overhead. one thing to burn corporate coffers with the same people of walmart and cat tropes but this kind of stuff burns server and storage resources.

for a corporate entity looking to make billions off our data that's the cost of doing business -- but for lemmy server admins it's a truly personal cost.

imo we should be respectful of our "homes" and try not to trash them with low value content.

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dialecticcake 15 points 3 years ago

I think this is an excellent point (re: server overhead) and one I hadn't considered. Thanks for sharing that.

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newtraditionalists 1 point 3 years ago

I want to echo what dialectic cake said. I had not considered this at all and it's such a good thing to keep in mind. Thanks for edifying me!

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UntouchedWagons 39 points 3 years ago

I don't mind most of them but I downvoted every "Google en passant" comment chain.

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swab148 33 points 3 years ago

Holy hell

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cielnova 16 points 3 years ago

literal zombie

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name_NULL111653 4 points 3 years ago

Call the exorcist

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mantisteabaggin 24 points 3 years ago

I spent an unhealthy amount of time on reddit over nearly the last decade, and somehow this is the first time seeing that phrase. I actually had to just google “google en passant” to figure out what you’re talking about. I’m still not sure I understand the meme, and I’m certain Ive never seen it, or at least never paid attention to it if I did. Yet it must be common because at least two people bring it up in this thread. Crazy how that works.

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themusicman 16 points 3 years ago

Google "Google en passant"

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chronically_crazy 8 points 3 years ago

How meta

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Shiftyrunner37 8 points 3 years ago

Google "Google "Google en passant""

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ActuallyASeal 11 points 3 years ago

Just a simple call-reaponse meme. AnarchyChess ended spreading everywhere. Probably because chess took off with middle and high schoolers during 2020 lockdown.

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Lutz69 13 points 3 years ago

I mean, adults, too. I'm 28 and I picked up chess again when Queen's Gambit came out. I had always known how to play but I never knew how to play.

I still don't. But that's besides the point.

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dystop 10 points 3 years ago

I still don’t

Then Google en passant xD

I'm in the same boat - I know how to play (horsey moves in an L, bishop goes diagonally etc), but i don't know how to play ("ah i see you used the classic Cyberpunk Windmill opener, most people respond with either the Frenchman's Dehumidifier or the Blue Baboon but imma take inspiration from the Smith-Wesson match and try a variation of the Cardboard Cockroach")

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minimar 4 points 3 years ago

Me too, kind of. I'd always played chess on and off my whole life, but after watching queen's gambit with my bff I found out she's actually pretty into chess, which prompted me to get more into it too.

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Real_Patriotism 2 points 3 years ago

C4 master race - you don't need to know how to play if your opponent has no idea how to play against you

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Soltros 37 points 3 years ago

I also hope nobody is going to be editing their comment and saying "wow, this blew up."

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Steeve 45 points 3 years ago

This

Edit: thanks for the gold kind strangeerrr

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ignotum 12 points 3 years ago

First!

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UnspecificGravity 34 points 3 years ago

Hopefully you can find some social media platform that doesn't have any other people on it so that you can live in peace from the dumb shit that other people post.

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SuspiciousUser 4 points 3 years ago

That's why I'm starting my own instance! With blackjack! And hookers!

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ComputerSagtNein 29 points 3 years ago

Idk, I love comment chains like that. The funny comments, references or comment interactions are often the funniest thing about a post.

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buttparagus 18 points 3 years ago

and nothing makes you feel part of something as finally getting an inside joke.

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cyber_kalashnikov 4 points 3 years ago

I love inside jokes. I'd love to be part of one someday.

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mantisteabaggin 2 points 3 years ago

I understood this reference!

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Ozymati 25 points 3 years ago

Some people like that stuff, you don't have to but why make a point of yucking their yum?

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Ginjutsu 9 points 3 years ago

how much yum could a yucking yum if a yuck yuck could yuck yum

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FreeThinker 25 points 3 years ago

To shreds you say, tsk tsk tsk. Well, how’s his wife holding up?

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GuyDudeman 21 points 3 years ago

Ahh, the old lemmyroo...

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bdonvr 18 points 3 years ago

Hold my overused pun, I'm going in!

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gogozero 3 points 3 years ago path: 0 158726 159270 164622 172718, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
InnominateUser 10 points 3 years ago

Hold my nonexistent wedding ring, I'm going in

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androogee 13 points 3 years ago

I also choose this guy's nonexistent wife.

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Da_Boom 5 points 3 years ago

Me too thanks

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BlackCoffee 24 points 3 years ago

Don't mind me, I am just waiting in the wings to "Choose someone's wife"

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sickmatter 21 points 3 years ago

I also choose this guy's wife.

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UnforunateBlaster69 22 points 3 years ago

This 🤣🤣🤣

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simple 25 points 3 years ago

Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!!!

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TheMinions 9 points 3 years ago

🥇

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camr_on 7 points 3 years ago

I'm waiting for people to start posting the old reddit silver pic with an L

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jimrob4 3 points 3 years ago

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camr_on 3 points 3 years ago

thanks kind stranger!!

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Saturdaycat 2 points 3 years ago

Leddit Silver

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roo 21 points 3 years ago

This is the way

At first I thought this is an overly pretentious post, but while writing a response I thought about some of the most upvoted yet heinously circlejerky comment threads I've had to wade through to get to a rational or different comment. Good point OP'Lem!

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RedditRefugee 20 points 3 years ago

Google en passant, I'm an actual zombie

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nasal_demon 7 points 3 years ago

New response just dropped, call an exorcist

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notsorryforpartying 3 points 3 years ago

Holy hell

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elonspez 1 point 3 years ago

just GTFO of reddit, will never return

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wesker 2 points 3 years ago

Hey Google, I'm a pissant.

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elonspez 20 points 3 years ago

So much this 1!1!1!

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redditrefugee 21 points 3 years ago

There's a noticeable generation gap between people who use 1!1!1! and the ones who would say sO MuCh tHiS! I'm not sure when it happened but I'm gonna guess you are about 35?

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gary 7 points 3 years ago

And another generation gap between people who use a double space after a period and those who just use a single space.

You can always tell when someone was trained to type on a typewriter when that happens.

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redditrefugee 4 points 3 years ago

I used double spaces until a friend of my aggressively dissuaded me from doing it recently. I wasn't trained on a typewriter but I learned it from people who were, so there you go.

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ndr 3 points 3 years ago

Why was a double space used?

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again 13 points 3 years ago

Printing-press typesetters had a rule for how much space should be between sentences. Then people started having personal typewriters that were monospace, so to make their documents look similar to traditional publications and to more easily see the punctuation marks, people would put two spaces before starting a new sentence. Personal typewriters got more sophisticated with better spacing, making double-spacing unnecessary, and then computers came on the scene with word processing software, which also had no need for the improvised double-spacing.

But people had already learned from their teachers back in high school that they should double-space on the typewriter. So they taught it to their students with advanced typewriters and computers, and some of those students to this day just won't quit.

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Mr_Grumpy 6 points 3 years ago

Typewriters were/are monospaced, so putting a double space after the full-stop helped you recognise the start of a new sentence, giving it, and you, breathing space.

The PC fonts are size adjusted and double space is no longer necessary, but it doesn't hurt.

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elonspez 3 points 3 years ago

I will be very very sad if I'm still commenting this kind of shit on a random corner of the internet at the age of 35

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redditrefugee 17 points 3 years ago

I'm 36 and shitposting is the best part of my day! You're never too old for some things.

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darius 5 points 3 years ago

It's such a weird thing for me too. You are too old for eating cake, doing funny noises, comment x or y. The fuck I'm too old for anything.

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Chewy12 1 point 3 years ago

I am 34 and I believe the both have their own purposes.

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Ataraxia 1 point 3 years ago

Oh man... but they forgot 11!!11!1!0ne. Why does this remind me of arfenhouse? Anyway the ones and exclamations are too symmetrical. I sense a fake.

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agentshags 2 points 3 years ago

!!!!!1!1!!one1!

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MiddleWeigh 1 point 3 years ago

Lol. I'm 33, and I haven't seen that in a while. I remember using it on AIM or smth lol

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msprout 19 points 3 years ago path: 0 105542, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 2
win95 7 points 3 years ago path: 0 105542 106446, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
petrescatraian 4 points 3 years ago path: 0 105542 190579, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
Veritrax 19 points 3 years ago

Lemmy reminds me of old school BBS where actual discussion happened. I know it's been a shift for me where I actually have to think about a response and hold a discussion instead of just following the patterns. Not that I don't appreciate rote comments, it's nice to expect a joke and have that delivered on. Not every thread though.

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illumrial 18 points 3 years ago

Yeah those are just circle-jerky and don't add to any meaningful discussion.

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GONADS125 19 points 3 years ago

I've been hoping most of those users are only here temporarily following the bandwagon/circle-jerking, and that they go back to reddit for the comments of nothing but lame puns and off-topic jokes.

I was really hoping to escape that migrating here. The comments of nearly every reddit thread just devolves into r/funny or r/adviceanimals. Distinct subreddits mean less and less, and off-topic content is upvoted in every sub just because it illicits a cheap laugh.

Reddit is less and less a place for substantive discussion and more just a dumping grounds of repetitive lame jokes. I really hope the children stay on reddit...

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0U714W 5 points 3 years ago

Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

don'tkillmei'mjoking

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Dandylion 2 points 3 years ago

m'lady, m'gold me too - just jokes though!!

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MountainBiker 18 points 3 years ago

This is the way

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marswarrior 1 point 3 years ago
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Gravitytxt 17 points 3 years ago

When does the narwhal bacon XD XD XD

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Notyou 4 points 3 years ago

I think around noon.

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FermatsLastAccount 3 points 3 years ago

If you have to ask, you're streets behind.

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_haha_oh_wow_ 2 points 3 years ago

When that old chatbot punches you in the taint. I forget what it was called but I loved that it responded to the bacon narwhal comment with that.

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camr_on 16 points 3 years ago

this tbh 😩 edit: holy hell

For real though , idk if I see it happening. If the culture of "this" comments comes with, all we have against it is an opposing culture of trying to keep comments high-quality. It just depends on what kind of redditors take the effort to migrate

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taco_ballerina 8 points 3 years ago

I'm not sure it's even possible to contain some of the tropes. I still occasionally see people posting "first" on YouTube and similar, and that's a Slashdot troll meme from more than 20 years ago.

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dialecticcake 4 points 3 years ago

To complicate things, you may also get different behaviour in different communities by the same user.

I think it's really at the community level that culture can be formed as at the all post level, we all just have our different preferences and that's fine. Also, our preferences may changed based on what we want/need in a day, e.g., one day we may want jokes while another day we may want tech support.

And so at the community level, community owner Bob may want no low-effort posts so he can put that into the rules, the mods can enforce that (be removing low-effort posts), the community can enforce it by only upvoting high-effort posts, and then a culture is formed which will draw other people who are into that.

And likewise the same for other culture/expectations.

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GhostCowboy76 3 points 3 years ago

I am really worried it will be an uphill battle. I see two things happening 1) We all exodus here and ruin this place. 2) Nobody cares and just leaves Reddit doing what it wants. Sadly neither are great outcomes, and yes I know I am cynical.

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sickmatter 16 points 3 years ago

Just wait until someone posts something containing the substring "69"!

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 23 points 3 years ago path: 0 103304 104040, hotness: undefined, score: 23, children: 5
PastaTrees 4 points 3 years ago

Nice

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petrescatraian 3 points 3 years ago path: 0 103304 104040 115259 221971, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
Sjvo 2 points 3 years ago

Nice

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Caboose12000 2 points 3 years ago

Nice

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DigDoug 7 points 3 years ago

OMG, you said the sex number.

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_number8_ 4 points 3 years ago

yes, but we can roll for dubs / trips / etc!

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Astrealix 15 points 3 years ago

Google en passant

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Acester47 20 points 3 years ago

holy hell

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FermatsLastAccount 17 points 3 years ago

Actual zombie

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coolseel 12 points 3 years ago

New response just dropped

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MathMagician_X 7 points 3 years ago

???

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disney 6 points 3 years ago

Why do I keep seeing these four comments everywhere

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hemko 2 points 3 years ago
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grundelgrump 4 points 3 years ago

This is one of the jokes I hate the most on reddit. Someone doing a thing another person said they didn't like. It's so played out and one of the reasons I was trying to branch off from reddit.

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CeruleanRuin 15 points 3 years ago

I would support a general community punishment for excessive punnery.

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DarkDarkHouse 5 points 3 years ago

A punishment you say?

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Jack 15 points 3 years ago

If the Lemmies end up like 2023 reddit, then maybe what you're looking for is tildes.net which seems to be more like r/AskHistorians meets pre-September Usenet.

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hydra 10 points 3 years ago

Bad idea to jump from proprietary platform 1 to proprietary platform 2

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CannaVet 5 points 3 years ago

I'd rather them do that than the taking up arms to demand Lemmy become Reddit I've been seeing all over the place.

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Jack 2 points 3 years ago

True; but the open sites I agree with, currently lack the moderation-style and content of places like r/AskHistorians and Tildes. Usenet, Slashdot, Reddit, Tildes, a future Lemmy?

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Dick_Justice 13 points 3 years ago

I used to wish there was a browser plugin that would just hide the top comment on posts somehow. Invariably, when a postvreally blows up, the top comment is some kind of joke or a pun that doesn't add anything to the discussion at hand.

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dystop 4 points 3 years ago

with a community as big as reddit, the only way to make yourself heard is to be among the top few comments on each thread.

It gets tiring writing 10 lengthy, well thought-out replies for 10 different threads, only for 9 of them to fall off the radar and get no responses. So you get people spamming low-effort puns in order to get noticed.

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dialecticcake 12 points 3 years ago

@angrylittlekitty@lemmy.one (comment link) had mentioned server costs from hosting duplicated content which was a great point.

I will also add, that people's time is also a finite resource. And so we can all help by being respectful of the rules for each community (save moderators time) and additionally in communities where you are asking for help -- avoid being a Help Vampire.

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RedMarsRepublic 11 points 3 years ago

I agree with you, the relationship subs were/are a hell of 'heh a quick way to lose that 210 pounds, dump him sweaty!'. Like why can't we just give advice without everyone trying to be a wiseass.

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closetgeekshow 11 points 3 years ago

I rather enjoyed those things, keep it going

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CheshireSnake 10 points 3 years ago

Idk. I enjoyed it when it's done well. I subbed to subs like r/redditsings because of it.

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animist 7 points 3 years ago

/r/inclusiveor haha i am so original haha

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fossilesque 5 points 3 years ago
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SpezCanLigmaBalls 4 points 3 years ago

This deserves to be higher ^/s^

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100beep 4 points 3 years ago

google en passant

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Wereduck 2 points 3 years ago

Holy hell

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sangle_of_flame 2 points 3 years ago

hear hear

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joestaen 0 points 3 years ago

this is a stupid dumb post /s

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linusbeeftips -1 points 3 years ago

That's just Zoomer humor. It has nothing to do with Reddit. Memes on tiktok/insta are the same thing. The same joke over and over (that's not even "funny" in the traditional sense) repeated so much that it's funny.

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JustEnoughDucks 31 points 3 years ago

That has been literally all internet humor since the dawn if the internet.

All your base are belong to us, nyancat, GGG, advice animals, roflcopter, it's a trap, badger mushroom, everything.

Internet humor literally relies on enough regurgitation to be a huge inside joke.

I mean, before that it was pretty much "I hate my wife" humor and dirty jokes for half of a century,, so even if the dead horse is being made into applesauce, it still might be a step up.

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CannaVet 12 points 3 years ago

I know it's not the conversation we're having, but nothing makes me hate anti-LGBTQIA+ folk quite like the "I hate my wife" shtick.

"GAYS ARE RUINING MARRAIGE" My brother in Christ, just yesterday I heard you joke about finding your wife a pair of concrete shoes. You did perfectly well destroying the concept of marriage all on your own.

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hydra 6 points 3 years ago

Whenever I think of these "jokes" as a Gen Z I think of an ungrateful joe who got to date and marry and hates his wife. Doing these in 2023 year of our lord without being burned is a miracle.

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limeaide 6 points 3 years ago

You can say a lot about those anti lgbtq+ folk, but hypocrite and and un-selfaware are just two of them

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catharticrespite 0 points 3 years ago

To go further off topic, LGBT+ folks have my full support but can y'all please stop adding to the acronym?

I thought the 'q' was supposed to be an umbrella for everyone else, then there was a plus that's definitely for that purpose, yet somehow more letters still seem to get added every few years

The next time a boomer co-worker comes up and passive-aggressively asks me, "what's this new letter I just found," with a grin like this exposes how dumb the whole community really is, I swear I'm going to throw them out a window

I don't want to go to prison, please stop adding letters so they will stop talking to me

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kool_newt 5 points 3 years ago

The actual gay agenda is to rearrange the alphabet and covertly get the world to memorize it. The but sex is simply a strategy.

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Jefe 29 points 3 years ago

No it isn't. They were wearing diapers when Redditors were making "This guy X" jokes or broken arms jokes, or pun chains ad nauseam. Stop making this another example of "It's those darn kids" when every generation is guilty of being corny as fuck.

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Giorgio 7 points 3 years ago

Every generation was once kids

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limeaide 17 points 3 years ago

I don't think it's just zoomers. One of the most annoying things that older generations do is quote movies and old commercials for no reason. Don't forget "whassuuuuuuuuuup"

I've had countless millennials quote star wars, mean girls, napoleon dynamite, the godfather, and you don't even want to know how many shitty joker impressions i've heard.

I think it's just a human thing to do and if you weren't there, it's kinda cringe and not funny.

That being said, I always found the reddit comments annoying asf lmao

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hemko 2 points 3 years ago
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