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3 years ago by ElCanut to c/linuxmemes

Engywuck 195 points 3 years ago

Your fault, bro. Just install Linux. I use Arch, BTW.

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Neon 94 points 3 years ago

petition to rename Arch to btwOS

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livie 31 points 3 years ago

I use btwOS btw doesn't roll off the tongue tho

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LostXOR 20 points 3 years ago

You have to pronounce it like "Buh-twoss".

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agent_flounder 13 points 3 years ago

Butt twos

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jaybone 9 points 3 years ago

BTW I use butt floss.

Yeah it rolls off the tongue.

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Ferris 3 points 3 years ago

what about breaking the naming convention and calling it OS-btw

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TeaEarlGrayHot 1 point 3 years ago

OSbtw

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Jumuta 10 points 3 years ago

btwFS is so good btw, so much btr than Btrfs

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Kialdadial 19 points 3 years ago

My favorite part of Arch is reinstalling it over and over again. That first successful boot after the install gives too much dopamine.

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oce 8 points 3 years ago

My favorite part of Arch is that my install from 5 years ago still works perfectly and I didn't have to do any major version upgrade that breaks everything.

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cows_are_underrated 2 points 3 years ago

Just had to reinstall arch 3 times yesterday, since the installation script fucked up the partitioning.

Reinstall nr1(manually, since the script didn't work): I forgot to add users and couldn't log into my machine Reinstall nr2(manually): my mirror lists was so fucked up that I couldn't install or update packages(there also were some missing databases) Reinstall nr3(script) : finally everything worked.

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aBundleOfFerrets 3 points 3 years ago

Don’t use the script. Ezpz problem solved

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pete_the_cat 4 points 3 years ago

Agreed. I've been installing it manually since 2012, never had an issue I couldn't quickly fix. I attempted to use the installer about 6 months ago and couldn't get past the disk partitioning step because it wouldn't allow me to do the things I needed to do, then I think it crashed.

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Titou 1 point 3 years ago

What's the point of installing Arch if you don't do it manually

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portside 4 points 3 years ago

You won't believe what he did...

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Engywuck 1 point 3 years ago

Good boy!

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jvrava9 3 points 3 years ago
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callyral 4 points 3 years ago

ysk (you should know) that i use void linux

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pewgar_seemsimandroid 1 point 3 years ago

use linux mint of you're coming from windows

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Engywuck 1 point 3 years ago

Nah... I'm on Arch (BTW)

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pewgar_seemsimandroid 1 point 3 years ago

rocky linux supreme

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shellsharks 111 points 3 years ago

I am a pretty heavy “Fediverse user” (Mastodon + Lemmy/Kbin) and my feeds have VERY little Linux talk. There is an incredibly diverse set of folks on the ‘verse but admittedly discoverability is hard. If the only people in your circle are Linux nerds then that’s all that might be boosted into your timeline. Put some effort into finding other folks and unfollow some of the Linux-only voices :-).

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RandomStickman 73 points 3 years ago

Maybe people aren't used to curate their own feed anymore.

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Jagermo 33 points 3 years ago

That's the biggest thing. My Mastodon is very curated as is my subscribed feed. Put work in, get quality out.

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redcalcium 11 points 3 years ago

How do you curate your mastodon feed? How do you find interesting people to follow? I haven't created a mastodon account yet because I honestly not sure how to do this.

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shellsharks 13 points 3 years ago path: 0 5207418 5207812 5208039 5208534 5208804, hotness: undefined, score: 13, children: 2
EmergMemeHologram 3 points 3 years ago
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TORFdot0 16 points 3 years ago

I think it's mostly people viewing the "All"/"Community" feeds. Which I feel like you have to do in general as the niche communities haven't really gotten to a self sustaining point where you can check your "Home" feed and not run out of stuff to doom scroll.

Not to mention that if you happened to mention certain things in communities that are tangentially related (Windows/Nintendo/Apple) then it usually starts another off topic discussion on linux/piracy/whatever.

Honestly the linux stuff doesn't bother me as much as every topic seemingly turning into a critique of capitalism.

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pete_the_cat 2 points 3 years ago

I'm a huge Linux geek and I rarely see Linux on my feed.

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pewgar_seemsimandroid 1 point 3 years ago

what is lemmy/kbin you meant lemmy and kbin

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baseless_discourse 1 point 3 years ago

I think a good and easy way to discover new people is to follow hashtags.

I follow couple local pets work-related hobby and urbanism hastags, and I was able to discover new conversation and new people in these space quite quickly.

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FilthyShrooms 73 points 3 years ago

And the other 25% is star trek memes

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Vespair 9 points 3 years ago

Well yeah but nobody complains about the frosting on a cake

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MashedTech 6 points 3 years ago

I wonder why?

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phorq 10 points 3 years ago

The Q continuum is messing with us?

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shadearg 4 points 3 years ago

Not if you punch first.

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HiddenLayer5 69 points 3 years ago

Getting really tired of this "the fediverse needs to cater to normie interests because we're here now and it's what we deserve" attitude. If you can't find a community to click with, you can always create one, join one you don't know much about with an open mind, or don't use the fediverse if it doesn't have the content you like. Sorry to say it but you're not special and no existing users on any social media platform is obligated to go out of their way to make you feel comfortable on the platform.

Same with the "your open source, community developed platform/client sucks! I demand you make the UX better because I the user deserve better! No I'm not going to donate to your development fund because you suck and need to be better before you deserve my money!" sentiments that I see on Lemmy more and more now. Seems like everyone just expects corporate level user experience and customer service from people developing open source software mostly for free as passion projects. Even after the numerous corporate boondoggles that drove people to the fediverse in the first place people aren't the slightest bit willing to change their paradigms regarding how social media should be run.

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ikidd 40 points 3 years ago

You forgot "Lemmy is developed by tankies so someone that isn't me should fork it and work their asses off so I feel more comfortable for some reason."

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bayank 9 points 3 years ago

What is a tankie I’m seeing this word thrown around here

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georgette 12 points 3 years ago

Communist who believe that any criticism of china is racism, think the ussr did nothing wrong and a lot of them support Russia in the Ukraine war at the moment

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OddFed 10 points 3 years ago
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Neil 16 points 3 years ago
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InstallGentoo 0 points 3 years ago

The small community here is what makes it good. I prefer to gatekeep even more to prevent "low quality" users who think they're entitled to everything.

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JTskulk 56 points 3 years ago

Imagine complaining about Linux users instead of switching to Linux.

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Jezebelley 41 points 3 years ago
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Amends1782 15 points 3 years ago

Mint- great decision. Especially for a laptop. You'll enjoy it.

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gnuplusmatt -6 points 3 years ago

except if the hardware is newish, or they want to get off xorg

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frippa 13 points 3 years ago
  1. A newcomer probably doesn't even know what X11 and Wayland are, let alone the differences between the two.

  2. Linux Mint has planned experimental wayland support for Christmas 2023.

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ShitOnABrick 6 points 3 years ago

Nice enjoy amego. Mint was my second choice. Great choice of distro BTW very easy to use make sure to install flatpaks and neofetch sadly I went back to windows my pc hardware has poor driver support on Linux maybe eventually once I've upgraded my gpu then I'll return to my sacred Linux mint

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JTskulk 4 points 3 years ago

Based! Now you'll have to change your username too, in Linux our programs don't have the .exe extension :)

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callyral 1 point 3 years ago

i guess you could just get an ELF binary and rename it to something.exe but idk why you'd do that

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Draconic_NEO 1 point 3 years ago

Wouldn't be a good idea since it'll conflict if you install wine.

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Omniraptor 15 points 3 years ago

ok this comment finally got me to download ubuntu i hope you're happy

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sorrybookbroke 16 points 3 years ago

One of us, one of us, one of us, one of us

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spez 7 points 3 years ago

two of us, two of us, two of us

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JTskulk 7 points 3 years ago

HELL YEAH BROTHER

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Zetta 4 points 3 years ago

Boo. Fedora! fedora! fedora!

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Amends1782 1 point 3 years ago

Fantastic. Now just delete the Ubuntu iso and download mint cinnamon, so so much better and "just works"

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SitD 9 points 3 years ago

how will Microsoft know that I'm doing well though, or if i have my photos properly backed up in the cloud 😭 they're just concerned for my safety

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ShitOnABrick 8 points 3 years ago

Is this satire?

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c0mbatbag3l -1 points 3 years ago

Unfortunately not, that's why lemmy never took off. All the people that came here from reddit slowly left once they realized you have to be a FOSS/Socialist/anti-car/vegan. Only the ones that matched at least one of those really stuck around.

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Zetta 4 points 3 years ago

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ At least there is a lot less brain dead shit all over the front page without a bunch of normal people up in this bitch

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ShitOnABrick 0 points 3 years ago

I mean I would prefer the "brain dead shit" in my opinionmost of the shit I see here is just bitching and moaning or copious amounts of nfsw. No cute puppy pictures. No wholesome memes. No actually funny shitposts. Mostly bitching and moaning,"demanding a violent revolution" lots of tankies here nfsw and heavily opionated extremely unfunny in my opinion comedy is subjective i dont find these funny but you may domemes. All this hostility is almost certainly affecting lemmys growth heck only reason I'm here is because of lemmy shitposts and the many other nicher communities I like

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c0mbatbag3l 0 points 3 years ago

I mean kinda? There's still some brain dead shit and I honestly think the reading comprehension of the average commenter is lower than reddit.

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JTskulk 2 points 3 years ago

Thanks for deciding for me.

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ShitOnABrick 1 point 3 years ago

Hey mate just wondering still is this satire

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Vespair 2 points 3 years ago

Also older. The average Lemmy user is much older than the average reddit user. Which I would love if it stuck just to averages, but I don't think we've got a very wide range here; we need some new blood/youthful energy if we want this to thrive and grow. But as it is now, I think Lemmy is a kind of a haven for FOSS old heads for a bit but doesn't have a lot of fuel in the tank for the future, unless we see a bit of a cultural shift here.

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ShitOnABrick -3 points 3 years ago

Lemmy almost certainly needs a "cultural shift" it's way to toxic. It's probably more toxic than heroshima. one thing I've noticed myself is there's way way to many tankies. And some members of the linux community aren't so welcoming to people whom use other operating systems

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antik 4 points 3 years ago path: 0 5218082 5219692, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
ExLisper 47 points 3 years ago

We need moar Linux memes!

Seriously, more Linux memes please.

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Rubanski 17 points 3 years ago

What about Linux Tech Tips?

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ExLisper 8 points 3 years ago

I say... bring them!!

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clemdemort 7 points 3 years ago

cat is actually used to concatenate files so if you have two files that you want to merge into a third one you can do

cat file1 file2 > file3

Especially useful for cracking old games

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Damage 4 points 3 years ago

Especially useful for cracking old games

what?

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creation7758 6 points 3 years ago

Always remove the French language pack

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nogrub 4 points 3 years ago

never execute "sudo rm -r / --no-perserve-root" because you whole sytem will be gone edit i forgot the directory

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Damage 4 points 3 years ago

the -delete option in find goes AFTER the expression.

find -delete [whatever] will delete EVERYTHING in the current directory and below, like rm -rf *

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cows_are_underrated 1 point 3 years ago

This shouldnt do anything since you didn't gave it a directory to start with.

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BautAufWasEuchAufbaut 41 points 3 years ago

Let's do it right here!
Sway is a Wayland i3 implementation and you really should be using Wayland instead of X.

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taaz 13 points 3 years ago

I would love to but 1. I love my simple awesomeWM setup 2. Nvidia shenanigans.
:(

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CheesyFox 15 points 3 years ago

Nvidia shenanigans

i know that feel bro :(

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ObviouslyNotBanana 5 points 3 years ago

Is Sway nice?

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dabu 5 points 3 years ago

Sway is rice

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Gentoo1337 5 points 3 years ago

Yes

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 3 years ago

I might be swayed to try it out

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ExLisper 2 points 3 years ago

No, you only should be using Wayland if you need some of it's features. If you don't need mixed refresh rate/mixed scaling you're fine using X.

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thedeadwalking4242 6 points 3 years ago

X is abandonware and full of security issues probably time to switch to maintained aoftware

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odium 1 point 3 years ago

This sentence works really well for twitter too

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aniki -2 points 3 years ago
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BautAufWasEuchAufbaut 1 point 3 years ago

X' architecture is insecure. There's no isolation between windows, and each process can spy on your input. That's just one example.
Wayland is necessary.

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ExLisper 3 points 3 years ago

Yet no known active exploits use this insecure architecture to cause actual harm. It's just another FUD.

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BautAufWasEuchAufbaut 1 point 3 years ago

I'd hardly call that an exploit. There's no protection.

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Ooops 2 points 3 years ago

The Sway implementation (not Wayland as some DEs seem to run really smoothly) sadly is still completely hit or miss depending on your exact hardware setup. I have two device (both even with nvidia grphics *sigh*) and one of them is just a buggy and flickering mess.

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BautAufWasEuchAufbaut 2 points 3 years ago

I disagree. Sway is extremely high quality software. Nvidia is a known terrible player with FLOSS software. I hope they will continue their path of recent improvements.

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Gabagoolzoo 2 points 3 years ago

Sway devs don't support NVIDIA graphics

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Ooops 1 point 3 years ago

I know they officially don't. And I didn't try to say that Sway was bad in any way or that it is their fault. I was just stating facts about state of it with NVIDIA graphics (that kept me -as a long-term i3 user- from switching to Wayland).

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ctr1 1 point 3 years ago

For a while I would have agreed, and I used sway for years. But recently I switched back to i3 (i3-rounded) due to display issues with my AMD GPU. I started doing most of my development in the TTY, and found that switching from TTY to Wayland takes half a second and can sometimes break my GPU (until I switch between TTY and display a few times). With X11 it's instant and without issue ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Hoping that gets fixed down the road, or that it's specific to my GPU.

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dustyData -3 points 3 years ago

Counterpoint, Wayland is still undercooked and not ready for proper daily use.

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wfh 13 points 3 years ago

Counter-counterpoint: Wayland is perfectly fine and production ready and has been for several years now, as long as you're on AMD or Intel GPUs. The nVidia drivers are still undercooked and not ready for proper daily use.

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redcalcium 8 points 3 years ago

My desktop crashed three times so far after updating gnome, linux kernel and nvidia driver two days ago. Not sure who's the culprit, but I'll blame nvidia by default.

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dustyData 4 points 3 years ago

Does multi-monitor sets work yet? Does it still randomly crashes when logging out? Does it have support for touch monitors already? Is Pipewire support ready? Is the Compose key still broken? Does it handle internationalization better now? Does accessibility software like on screen keyboards and screen readers already work on it?

I love Wayland, BTW, the more secure ecosystem is a net positive. But we can't pretend it isn't a lot of effort for something that has no tangible difference or immediate advantage for the end user, is extra work for developers and currently has a higher potential for errors, malfunctions and missing features that are taken for granted. Again, it's a worthy endeavor to improve something that already works, but that also means there's no rush. We can afford to wait.

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spez 1 point 3 years ago

Does multi-monitor sets work yet?

Yes.

Does it still randomly crashes when logging out?

It hasn't done that for the 1.5 years that I have been using it for.

Is Pipewire support ready?

Yes. It's so ready that even ubuntu uses it with wayland by default.

Does it have support for touch monitors already

Yes. It, in fact, has better support than x org.

Does it handle internationalization better now?

I don't know about the problem with i18n but I don't think this will affect most users.

Onscreen keyboard is still a pain to run but maliit works on kde+gnome/wayland. When was the last time you used wayland dude? I am not trying to sound this argumentative. If I do, my apologies but I have been listening to these same points being regurgitated over and over again when they have been fixed long ago.

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cygnus 3 points 3 years ago

Wayland is perfectly fine and production ready and has been for several years now

... for you.

I regularly do presentations for work and in Wayland I can't play a video in a slide deck if presenting on an external display.

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Samsy 3 points 3 years ago

Remote tools aren't working on Wayland.

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aniki 0 points 3 years ago
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odium 3 points 3 years ago

Counter-counter-counterpoint: I have a rtx 3050 and not enough money just lying around to upgrade to an AMD just for Wayland.

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wfh 4 points 3 years ago

Still, 100% nVidia's fault, not Wayland.

No offense, but your argument is exactly like "electric cars are still undercooked and not ready for proper daily use because I still have to put gasoline in mine and can't afford one".

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spez 2 points 3 years ago

You running the proprietary drivers or Nouveau?

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rambaroo 0 points 3 years ago

Wayland integration with most DEs is absolutely incomplete regardless of Nvidia support. Wayland causes a ton of bugs every time I try to use it with KDE. There are still bugs even with GNOME like wine applications not working or screen sharing not working. So no I will not be using Wayland until it's ready for everyday usage, which it isn't right now.

He's a thought. Stop being a power nerd, stfu and let people use what they want.

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spez 3 points 3 years ago

No, unless your use case is very specific (like being an artist needing color calibration/the software you use needs to position a multi-window setup etc. And color calibration is being actively worked on should have basic support in Plasma 6 according to Nate Graham) wayland is pretty much ready for daily use. It does have annoyances but they are getting actively fixed unlike X which is barely maintained and has glaring security issues. Fedora KDE has even decided to completely remove the X server on its 40th release.

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dustyData 1 point 3 years ago

You do know that the people who make Wayland are the exact same people who made and maintained X, right? Like, they are intentionally abandoning X in order to make Wayland, and eventually X will just be actually XWayland as compatibility to transition to only Wayland.

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spez 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah I do know that. How does that affect my argument?

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sirico 1 point 3 years ago

Lets apply that logic to everything in the linux eco system get rid of BTRFS,Flatpaks,Libadwaita,pipewire...

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dustyData 4 points 3 years ago

Most of those are perfectly ready for every day use without issues today. All are alternatives that bring new features and specific use cases, solving new problems, or solving old problems in innovative ways. Wayland is an active replacement to an existing technology, as the old X is expected to just not exist anymore at some point in the future. BTRFS isn't intended to replace Ext4 wholesale, Flatpaks doesn't intend to replace apt/pacman/etc., Pipewire does the same that Pulse and Jack but Pulse and Jack won't stop existing. Adwaita existing doesn't mean that you can't use QT or GTK in your projects. That's the difference.

As a result Wayland has the burden to actually fulfill and comply with all the features and use cases that X11 already does, with all the new security improvements on top. That's a tall order, and until it can do so, it will be undercooked and under adopted, because they set themselves up to that bar, nobody but them is responsible for this. Is the ancient “let's rewrite from scratch” trap that all dev teams fall on at least once in their lives. It isn't impossible, but it always takes way longer than the optimist project managers anticipate.

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wfh 1 point 3 years ago

Feature parity with X has never been the goal. Because most of X's features are a legacy of the 80' and dreadfully obsolete anyway.

I'm all for maintaining compatibility where it makes sense, but carrying over a 40 years old feature set just in case is the best way to prevent anything from moving forward.

Wayland can already do or is actively being developed for stuff that is relevant to modern systems: multi-monitor with different refresh rates and scaling, HDR etc. Stuff that X would never dream of.

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m_r_butts 37 points 3 years ago
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cows_are_underrated 5 points 3 years ago

When I started with Linux I used Mint with cinnamon. It's great for people who switch from windows to Linux, but after trying kde and gnome I don't miss it in any way.

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mr_right 3 points 3 years ago

Amin to that

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thethirdobject 6 points 3 years ago

*Admin

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cows_are_underrated 2 points 3 years ago

*sudo

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xantoxis 35 points 3 years ago

I love Linux and playing with it and I still feel the same way. I don't want to talk about it all day. Stackoverflow exists.

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c0mbatbag3l 15 points 3 years ago

Yeah, or at least keep it to c/Linux

We don't need all communities to devolve into Linux conversations.

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plague_sapiens 23 points 3 years ago

I run arch btw

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c0mbatbag3l 1 point 3 years ago

I prefer Fedora but SteamOS is the closest I get to Arch.

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plague_sapiens 6 points 3 years ago

That was a joke to the comment above. I prefer, like you, Fedora (Silverblue).

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ichbinjasokreativ 3 points 3 years ago

OpenSuSe Tumbleweed does not get enough love

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cupcakezealot 35 points 3 years ago

this is the future

  1. join fediverse

  2. get linux

  3. post on unixsocks

  4. overthrow capitalism er uh i mean .. uh.. gotta go

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Iapar 30 points 3 years ago

Sounds like a skill issue.

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CCF_100 17 points 3 years ago

Lmao, I'm tempted to say "skill issue" any time someone comments about me using Linux over Windows now

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plague_sapiens 10 points 3 years ago

Hahaha, they gonna hate you much more then xD

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AVincentInSpace 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 5225610 5264206, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
murph 24 points 3 years ago

Your Mastodon feed will be entirely about who the people you follow are talking about, so follow different people, (or hashtags) and the conversation will change.

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mesamunefire 4 points 3 years ago

I subscribe to people that talk about their pets. It's a good life.

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HubertManne 3 points 3 years ago

yeah, not sure if its a mastadon thing but im coming out of kbing and I don't see very much linux stuff and im subscribed to several magazines. Not that the linux stuff is not there but there are tons of other things to. If I was not subscribed I would likely not see it at all.

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atocci 1 point 3 years ago

I browse All a lot and right now, without doing any scrolling and just looking at the top 6 posts on All that fit on my monitor, 2 of them are about Linux lol

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Nightsoul 23 points 3 years ago

hmmmm

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TechieDamien 4 points 3 years ago

Who's next?

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kirby 7 points 3 years ago

White theme flashbang

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cows_are_underrated 6 points 3 years ago

Now I'm blind. Thanks for that.

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Just_Not_Funny 3 points 3 years ago

You're a monster

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Nahodyashka 3 points 3 years ago

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Worstdriver 19 points 3 years ago

Used Ubuntu Linux for a year back around '08-'09. Didn't have a great experience and went back to Windows. Since then I've never had a reason to try it again. That said, I've nothing but respect for those that use a flavour of Linux or Mac OS. At the end of the day doing the things you need done is what matters and if a different OS than mine gets you there, that's awesome.

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nihilist_hippie 10 points 3 years ago

I've tried to switch to Linux multiple times since 2008. Usually Ubuntu. I've even tried Linux Mint. I can never commit to the switch, I always get buggy behavior, crashes, hardware incompatibility, lack of apps (FL Studio, Adobe, WeChat for PC, etc). There are also dozens of tiny issues, like the sensitivity of the mouse/scroll wheel that feels different from Windows, even after adjusting the relevant settings. Also, for volume adjusting, the volume slider doesn't make a sound when you change the volume level, unlike on Windows. How is it that not a single Linux distro includes this functionality? I am totally comfortable working in a Terminal if I have to, but every time I follow a terminal walkthrough I get errors; I search the error messages online and I get reading threads talking about bugs that are a decade old, there is never a solution. I am so jealous of people who can immerse themselves in Linux, I just can't do it. I need my stuff to work out of the box, and for 15 years and many attempts to switch, it has never been the case. I can't tell if I'm not smart enough, or I just rely too heavily on proprietary software, or I don't want to dedicate the time to manually fixing problems with terminal commands and scripts.

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Fungah 8 points 3 years ago

My first 4 months or so with Linux sucked. I literally broke a keyboard once out of frustration. I often find myself wanting to scream "can you just fucking work for once?" More often than I'd care to admit.

I've been at it for about a year and a half and I've learned more about computing in that time than in the 30-odd years before. I'm starting to get the hang of bash, I've figured out the cause of, and fixed, problems without reading anything online (Google is fucking broken and it's not getting better so it's often not an option anymore anyway).

It can be hard. And frustrating. But it's freeing to realize just how fucking stupid Microsoft made me. And the privacy issues always bothered me (in the process of degoogling ATM) but they bother me more now than they ever did. It's fucking gross. And it's appalling that companies collect what they do.

Point being your criticisms are all valid but if windows is a Honda Civic then Linux is a rusted out Porsche in the backyard. It's going to take some effort to get it where you want it but when you do baby it'll purr.

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K0W4LSK1 3 points 3 years ago

Really like this. This is my exact experience just a few months ahead. Try duck duck go i found it much better for finding answers also fuck google

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Fungah 2 points 3 years ago

Duck duck go is just bing and Google.

I pay $10/month for kagi. It's really not where I want it to be but it's the best game in town so far.

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bufalo1973 2 points 3 years ago

Try Qwant

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bulwark 2 points 3 years ago

I think you brought up a good point in that Microsoft conditions people to expect a certain behavior from their PC. Some of that is ease of use at there expense of privacy, forced unavoidable updates, and individual software solutions that handles their respective updates.

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nihilist_hippie 1 point 2 years ago

Windows = Honda Civic Linux = Fixer-Upper Porsche

I really like this analogy! Makes me want to try again. I think I need a dedicated machine that will ONLY be for Linux, so I can build some troubleshooting ability and learn how to set up all the things I need. I really want that Linux Porsche lifestyle!!

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avapa 3 points 3 years ago

The KDE desktop environment definitely plays a sound when you change the volume. I use my Logitech G Pro X wireless headset on Linux and Windows and just change the volume using the dial on the unit and it behaves the same way in both OS.

Though, to be fair, I do share some of the frustrations you mention. I'm mostly on Apple products apart from my two desktop PCs (one is Linux/Windows dual-boot, one is Linux only) which I own solely for gaming purposes and some hobbyist programming. I usually try to get non-Linux native applications running but if it proves to be too much of a hassle I simply boot into Windows or use my MacBook. I like to treat Linux as somewhat of a hobby and I totally understand that most people would rather have something that "just works", especially when it comes to proprietary creative applications like the Adobe suite or DAWs. That being said, it's extremely exciting to see the massive strides Linux on the desktop has made in the last couple of years. It has come a looooong way, honestly; especially for gaming. And I always support open-source projects/foundations - I'm donating to KDE/Arch/Wikipedia on a monthly basis - because I believe in the core values and advantages of FOSS and other community-driven foundations even though I'm far from a Richard Stallman.

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nayminlwin 2 points 3 years ago

This is the reason I have a lot of respect for people who are not in IT or Tech field, career wise, but still managed to deep dive into linux.

Even will all the ease of access that the current linux ecosystem offer, linux still is a tinkerer's OS. You have to deep dive into the basics for some problem. That's hard, even for someone with tech background.

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dansity 5 points 3 years ago

I'm in and out with linux for the last few years. It really boils down what do you want to do on your PC. If you are into online gaming or you need some specialized software for your work you are pretty much better stay on windows. However for general use its awsome. I have replaced many of my software even on windows to foss tools. There is a small learning curve and you will certainly need the terminal in the beginning but overall not terrible. For me it was a pleasant experience seeing mostly everything works without effort. The two most popular desktops (KDE and Gnome) are fairly polished and you question a lot of things in windows after using them. In general using linux a bit gives you a new perspective on how to use a PC.

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cosmicboi 2 points 3 years ago

Depends which games. I play Metal Gear Solid V, and it works almost flawlessly, aside from minor audio issues when objects in the game world move very fast (using a balloon to forcibly yank a downed enemy out of the combat zone creates a quieter than expected noise)

Other than that, it works very well :)

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Fungah 1 point 3 years ago

I've tried Manjaro kde and mint kde and it's been a dumpster fire both times. Then again gnome was also a dumpster fire on Manjaro. It honk I'm seeing the common thread there.

I want to love kde.. why won't it let me?Fuck gnome though.

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ZMonster 19 points 3 years ago

Self hosting, at least for lemmy, is absolute trash. I have been told a few times when asking questions that, "it is expected that you are thoroughly experienced with Linux" to be able to follow the mediocre guides. And they are trash if you are a newbie.

So people like me, who would love to use Lemmy for non Linux things, am posting almost entirely about Linux problems.

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zeppo 19 points 3 years ago

I wouldn’t expect running a publicly accessible server on the internet to be easy or a great idea for someone not familiar with the OS they’re using. Great way to learn, though.

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Bakkoda 9 points 3 years ago

Yeah I've got a proxmox cluster and I've been using Linux for decades but I wouldn't dare host something that a LOT of users are going to access. I don't know nearly enough about netsec and I can guarantee my vlan practices probably aren't perfect, etc.

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Nobsi 4 points 3 years ago

I have a solution for you. Just don't have your Internet facing things on the same /24 as your home stuff. Why vlan if you can just separate them by network and switch.

Or: just do it anyways. I learned most shit after everything broke. Not before.

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xantoxis 3 points 3 years ago

And how do you learn, then, from this project, if people are shitty about your questions?

I'm a sw engineer. I've been doing every kind of application management, development, and systems design for 25 years, nearly all of that in Linux, and I still need things answered about running apps in proxmox. I'm not coming to a Lemmy community for those answers, I'll tell you that.

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zeppo 0 points 3 years ago

I haven't tried to get community tech support on Lemmy, so I wouldn't know what it's like firsthand. If people are really that difficult, sure, that sucks. But it sounds like the person asking needs to work on more fundamental linux skills than something specific to running a Lemmy instance, and the internet is full of information about that.

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ZMonster 1 point 3 years ago

I get that, but here we are. It's something I want to do. I've been at it for 6 months and I've managed to get the site working twice, but am still struggling with SMTP. Digital ocean blocks smtp and send grid breaks the site.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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zeppo 1 point 3 years ago

SMTP in general is a pain to configure. I ran my own mail servers for a while and finally gave up and used a 3rd party service. Too many problems with antispam restrictions, and things like I’d finally get it configured, upgrade postfix or whatever and then it would all be screwed again.

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Thann 17 points 3 years ago

If you never used windows before and were trying to do something complicated like self hosting on it, you would be having nothing but issues....

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Nobsi 1 point 3 years ago

Not really. There's tutorials for everything and most of them still work 20 years later.
vs you installed ubuntu 20 and now youre trying to follow a 16 tutorial.

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the_q 10 points 3 years ago
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Nobsi 9 points 3 years ago

snobs, yes. Cunts even.

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Fungah 0 points 3 years ago

The fact that Google and bing are aggressively fucking search to death doesn't help much.

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Nobsi 3 points 3 years ago

What does google and bing making search worse have to do with stackoverflow and serverfaults linux users being snobs?
Or 70% of lemmy circle jerking over how much superior linux is.

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Gabagoolzoo 5 points 3 years ago

Would recommend using Docker (container) and Caddy (reverse proxy) to self-host as a newbie, streamlines everything and only basic Linux knowledge required (although you do have to learn Docker commands).

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Rodeo 3 points 3 years ago

Congratulations, you've discovered the struggles of learning an esoteric hobby. Often the learning curve is steep like that. And often you will encounter elitist twits trying to push you back down the curve. But they cannot keep you from knowledge. It sounds like you're already discovering some of the rewards.

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ZMonster 1 point 3 years ago

Oh yes, I've been using the ansible method of deploying and I have it very close, I just can't get SMTP working. I've set up an account with send grid but letsencrypt keeps telling me I've passed the limit for certs and every time I try to deploy it says I have to wait another week to try. I would remove certs but since I've already wiped those out, I don't know what they are or how to find them.

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pete_the_cat 1 point 3 years ago

I haven't looked into it, but I'd imagine that it's your basic LAMP/LNMP stack.

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ashe 1 point 3 years ago
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Nobsi 16 points 3 years ago

I install Ubuntu LTS
I try some things
Something fails
I look at forums
I find only cunty answers to ever problem
I delete the vm and install server 2022 core

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droans 11 points 3 years ago

I had a problem with some software I was using a few weeks back. I googled the error and the one result was a closed GitHub issue matching it exactly.

The sole reply just said that the poster should stop being lazy because the problem has been discussed in other issue reports.

Except that was the very first issue created for that repository.

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Nobsi 5 points 3 years ago

I hate forum culture. Yet i partake in it.

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plague_sapiens 1 point 3 years ago

Happens when using Ubuntu :P

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Nobsi 0 points 3 years ago

Didn't happen to me when learning core... And i asked DUMB questions

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plague_sapiens 2 points 3 years ago

That was a joke. Every community can be salty ime.

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EmperorHenry 16 points 3 years ago
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DudeDudenson 2 points 3 years ago

How do you go about discovering new communities? I've been scrolling All but the amount of communities that shows up is very limited (at least considering I blocked all the foreign language and political ones)

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covert_czar 3 points 3 years ago path: 0 5227611 5232423 5232640, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
DudeDudenson 1 point 3 years ago

I ment naturally from within boost

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EmperorHenry 1 point 3 years ago
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DudeDudenson 2 points 3 years ago

I don't know how I forgot about the sorting options, that stills limits me to the communities that have been connected to my instance right? I saw somewhere that each instance only syncs the communities the users from that instance have followed or something of the style

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EmperorHenry 1 point 3 years ago
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Anticorp 16 points 3 years ago

I've been wondering if we're losing users. My "Everything" feed sorted by Active is full of posts with zero comments, and a great deal of them are just news article links that were probably automated.

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Rentlar 12 points 3 years ago

Active is kind of a lackluster sorting method imo, Hot is awesome bc you get fresh posts (like Trending on that other site) aside from a couple 3M old posts that show up, Top 6h, 12h, Day are good too. New comments is cool if you want well engaged posts.

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Anticorp 4 points 3 years ago

Thanks for the recommendation. I assumed active meant people were engaging, but I guess up-dooting counts as engagement.

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trash80 5 points 3 years ago
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oldfart 4 points 3 years ago

Yeeeah just after Reddit died all kinds of people were there, now it's just the usual Linux users and the scripts creating fake traffic

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Dudewitbow 4 points 3 years ago

It why i default sort to hot, and longterm browse by top 12H

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plague_sapiens 3 points 3 years ago

I recently joined lemmy, because fuck reddit. And that's the first thing I saw. Lots of posted articles without comments. What do I do to combat that? Posting comments xD

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Anticorp 1 point 3 years ago

I've found a lot of user generated posts here to contribute to, but the article thing has started occurring more often recently.

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isolatedscotch 14 points 3 years ago path: 0 5240289, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 2
autumn64 13 points 3 years ago

I mean, do the people at the fediverse really talk mainly about Linux? I see in both Lemmy and Mastodon more people talking about US politics, LGBTQ+ stuff and furrys (lmao) than anything related to technology in general. I guess the kind of content someone sees would depend a lot on the instance someone creates their account in?

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Default_Defect 13 points 3 years ago

Some days most of what goes through my feed is Linux stuff, c/FuckCars, and hardcore communism and it feels like I'm in the wrong place. Most of the time I enjoy myself though.

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Cethin 7 points 3 years ago

Sounds like you're maybe in the right place but haven't reached where you should be yet...

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milicent_bystandr 3 points 3 years ago

Nah, Default_Defect only likes softcore communism, and you should respect his/her sensibilities.

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lightnsfw 2 points 3 years ago

If it weren't for the Star Trek memes idk what I'd do here. I mean I do run Linux but I don't make a lifestyle out of it.

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milicent_bystandr 0 points 3 years ago

"I'll stop driving my car just as soon as Putin releases the open source drivers for my tank."

-- Lemmy, probably

"I've taken to calling it 'GNU/Communism', or 'GNU slash Communism', because..."

-- also Lemmy, probably

"Why are Linux mascots like a Russian commune? Because degenerate capitalists come to our land and freeze while we huddle together safe in our car-less utopia!"

-- Lemmy?

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possiblylinux127 13 points 3 years ago

Sway is better because it uses wayland

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bbito 7 points 3 years ago

Hyprland babyyy

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pimeys 2 points 3 years ago

Been using sway for years now. Not even thinking about it, it doesn't jump to my face and works the same and never changes. Just what I need so I can focus on my work.

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SaltyIceteaMaker 12 points 3 years ago

I honestly am glad to see so much linux stuff

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Octavio 11 points 3 years ago
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Hawk 11 points 3 years ago

I setup i3 after seeing so many posts here. Now I would never go back

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WashedOver 2 points 3 years ago

Yet another new one I've not heard about. I'm in the Linux gang barely as I mostly run Mint these days. So I'm Windozes adjacent but in Linux it seems...

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Gabagoolzoo 2 points 3 years ago

It's a barebones window manager (WM). Emphasis on a "tiling" window philosophy (windows by default do not overlap and open side-by-side) and keyboard-centric workflow which is great for programming. Most of the "Unix porn" posts you see are on a WM because they are highly customizable.

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NightAuthor 1 point 3 years ago

What’s i3?

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NocturnalMorning 11 points 3 years ago

I don't see that much linux on my feed, you can always unfollow the Linux community.

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Johanno 7 points 3 years ago

No don't unfollow us! Instead RTFM

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NocturnalMorning 3 points 3 years ago

I had look up what RTFM meant, but I had a good laugh afterward.

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redcalcium 3 points 3 years ago

"read the friendly manual"

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aniki 1 point 3 years ago
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ichmagrum 2 points 3 years ago

Some people are running Linux but just don't care that much about linux-related content.

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Steak 11 points 3 years ago

What is a Linux?

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Abnorc 19 points 3 years ago
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plague_sapiens 5 points 3 years ago

He's good in doing so, compared to the old guy with a neckbeared using his fingers to count to one. Oh, do you know his name? It's Microsoft, named after his dick xD

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Squirrel 5 points 3 years ago

Isn't he that guy with the "tech tips"?

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RobotZap10000 2 points 3 years ago

Sex tips*

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milicent_bystandr 3 points 3 years ago

It's Latin for "line"

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s_s 2 points 3 years ago

Linux is domination.

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callyral 1 point 3 years ago

linux is a series of free and open-source tubes

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Arthur_Leywin 10 points 3 years ago

That sounds like a skill issue.

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K0W4LSK1 9 points 3 years ago

I only talk about linux when the post is about linux or about operating systems. I still get hate for it. I don't get it and dont even bring up arch anywhere lol

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JustARegularNerd 3 points 3 years ago

It's probably not necessarily aimed at you, but for some seen as the straw that broke the camels back because they're overexposed to the subject and have had enough.

That being said, it's hard to see that if you're literally commenting on a Linux thread.

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BlackPit 9 points 3 years ago

Block those communities and subjects you don't want in your feed.

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omnissiah 9 points 3 years ago

There are orher things than Linux?

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dynamo 9 points 3 years ago

What's I3? Is it uppercase "i"3 or lowercase "L"3?

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Smokeydope 9 points 3 years ago

Yet another post about Microsoft making windows even shittier, somehow:

Me: Its time to sing the songs of my people!

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milicent_bystandr 3 points 3 years ago

Its time to sing the songs of my people!

"Do you hear the people sing,
Singing the songs of angry GNUs!..."

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Immersive_Matthew 8 points 3 years ago

I don’t get it. I am on sh.itjust.works and yes I see the odd Linux post, but not so many that it stands out. I am even on many tech subscriptions. This seems overblown.

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gentooer 7 points 3 years ago

Too bad I can't hear you over my sway setup

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ramirezmike 6 points 3 years ago

I'm really lazy and use regolith, is that bad?

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grue 5 points 3 years ago

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art 2 points 3 years ago

It takes a lot of work to be this lazy.

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JDubbleu 3 points 3 years ago

The great thing about Linux DEs is that it doesn't matter if it's conventionally bad, it matters that it works for you. You could use the cubic alt tab animation and control your computer through seances for all anyone cares. As long as you can do what you want just send it and use what's best for you.

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fl42v 3 points 3 years ago

Nope, it isn't bad, just a different kind of philosophy, IMHO. Some people would prefer to do everything themselves and tailor stuff to their needs, while others are OK with some stuff being preconfigured.

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Baleine 2 points 3 years ago

It looks cool fr

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loutr 1 point 3 years ago

As a tiling WM newbie regolith was a godsend to get my feet wet. When you're used to DEs, the amount of stuff to learn to get to a usable set-up is overwhelming.

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Th4tGuyII 6 points 3 years ago

As someone who browses KBin/Lemmy fairly often, I can't say I ever see massive amounts of Linux talk even on the All tab. Usually it's just pictures of cats and star-trek memes

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WashedOver 2 points 3 years ago

And German posts in German. Not even sure why they come in my feed as I've not subscribed to Linux Memes in Deutsch

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Th4tGuyII 1 point 3 years ago

True, true. Lemmy seems to have quite the large German base. I have to block them as I go otherwise a bunch of my feed ends up in German

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wfh 1 point 3 years ago

SO. MANY. STAR. TREK. MEMES.

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sanqueue 5 points 3 years ago

Just like how Linux takes up 75% of the adoption rate?

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Abnorc 5 points 3 years ago
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optimal 2 points 3 years ago

oh, the init system. these days, systemd is the default, although other init systems do have their vocal proponents.

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InFerNo 1 point 3 years ago

Still the init system unfortunately

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Waker 5 points 3 years ago

I feel like this, but instead of Linux it's communism BS. Lol

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TangledHyphae 4 points 3 years ago

I feel personally attacked, but also Linux is great, haters gonna hate.

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c0mbatbag3l 6 points 3 years ago

See the thing is that most of us USE LINUX. We just don't need our content aggregation website to be 90% Linux when there's specific communities for it.

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TangledHyphae 2 points 3 years ago

Dear god almighty, you are 100% correct. Content aggregation is rough for most of us.

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kidpixo 4 points 3 years ago

I feel the pain, my i3 config is way(land) too long and not elegant enough....

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huntrss 1 point 3 years ago

I thought as well: should be sway ;)

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MashedTech 4 points 3 years ago

Haha, I use a Mac :cry:

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aport 4 points 3 years ago

🤮

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MashedTech 1 point 3 years ago

Come here

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Samsy 3 points 3 years ago

i3? Sorry I use hyprland.

Btw. I thought it's just a unixporn wm. But I can be very productive with hyprland.

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ichmagrum 2 points 3 years ago

"unixporn wm" and "productive" is not a contradiction at all.

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Samsy 0 points 3 years ago

Sure, but come on, Unixporn people are only productive in their dotfiles.

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ichmagrum 1 point 3 years ago

Meh. I did that kind of thing for maybe a year 4 years ago and then I just stopped changig it.

Now, I'm not productive (mostly because of health reasons), but I'm certainly not busy with editing dotfiles.

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h_a_r_u_k_i 1 point 3 years ago

What's so special about hyprland? Why is it getting so much hype?

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Samsy 1 point 3 years ago

It's near to sway but has some smooth animations, rounded corners, blur effects etc.

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LainOfTheWired 3 points 3 years ago

This is like moaning that a Metallica concert is full of metalheads. The fediverse is built off Linux type ideology. So of course we flock here.

If you don't like us make your own community or leave.

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Holzkohlen 3 points 3 years ago

I am slowly going insane with KDE Plasma freezing up every time there is even remotely something accessing my drive. Not sure if I should pin my hoped on Plasma 6 or if I should attempt to move my Arch install over to Cinnamon. Or heck just install Mint and call it a day.

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rattking 4 points 3 years ago
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0ddysseus 3 points 3 years ago

I have mint on my big rig, on a new Intel nuc laptop, on 2 VMS, on 2 proxmox VMS, on my home file server made of old parts, on another laptop from like 2005, and now on a wyse 5060 terminal.

All of them run perfectly, connect to file shares, automatically find my printer, etc. Not one crash ever, and it all works like clockwork day in and day out. I'm halfway through baldurs gate 3 on the big rig now and can play it remotely via xrdp from the laptop.

If you want a system that works and let's you get on with life I'd reccomend it

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abbotsbury 1 point 3 years ago

Can vouch for Cinnamon, very snappy and easy to configure, even has an integrated theme downloader like KDE

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JCreazy 3 points 3 years ago

I thought that's what it was for

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backhdlp 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah, I think OOP is using it wrong

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paddirn 3 points 3 years ago

I mainly only use Linux with my SteamDeck now, but I’ve made use of it at various other times in the past, so I’m semi-familiar with it. Kind of the same boat though, I’ll see memes about it and I’m just like “Heh hehe heh…” ¯_(ツ)_/¯ “I don’t get it.”

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chemicalwonka 2 points 3 years ago

Hardened Void Linux with i3 :3

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Macropolis 2 points 3 years ago

I can't quit i3. I know there are better window managers out there, but I know I'm going to want to change all the key bindings to feel like i3. I really want to try a dynamic tiler though.

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Zoidberg 2 points 3 years ago

I'm in the same boat. The thing that I miss with i3 is a way to layouts. I like my windows mostly fixed but if you close one, everything needs to be redone. Oh and there's no way to work without stacking and tabbing...

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bulwark 1 point 3 years ago

I bounce around a lot, mainly between Qtile and Awesome WM because I like how it handles multiple monitors. You should check it out, there's loads of premade configs on GitHub.

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janAkali 2 points 3 years ago

I have pretty minimalistic setup.

Three dropdown terminals, managed by a bash script: top for quick commands, left and right for nvim.

Bar is i3bar, with a custom status program written in Nim language (can display any command output with conditional colors).

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Moshpirit 2 points 3 years ago

Yes. Mastodon is mostly about linux and cats. You're welcomed.

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Titou 1 point 3 years ago

I love Dwm, what about you ?

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AceFuzzLord 1 point 3 years ago

Totally depends on the instance. There are definitely furry communities here in Lemmy and they definitely feel lonely. But I have heard of some furry mastodon instances that actually are lively and active. No idea if they actually are since I don't have a clue why I can't access my mastodon account, let alone what instance I signed up on.

But active non-Linux, non-Star Trek meme groups definitely are a thing, despite how small they are.

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pelya 1 point 3 years ago

Your Android phone runs Linux.

Dun dun dun.

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LovePoson 1 point 3 years ago

So it wasn't just me? I felt like lemmy was 10 times more active than reddit since i switched bc im mainly interested in linux. That should mean most of reddit doesnt care about linux then :/

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ctr1 0 points 3 years ago

This is always the first thing I get set up:

# focus next available workspace on this output

bindsym $mod+q exec --no-startup-id ws=$(i3-msg -t get_workspaces | jq '.[] | select(.focused) | .num') && ofs=$(i3-msg -t get_outputs | jq 'map(select(.active)) | length') && i3-msg workspace $(($ws-$ofs))

bindsym $mod+w exec --no-startup-id ws=$(i3-msg -t get_workspaces | jq '.[] | select(.focused) | .num') && ofs=$(i3-msg -t get_outputs | jq 'map(select(.active)) | length') && i3-msg workspace $(($ws+$ofs))

# move window to next available workspace on this output

bindsym $mod+Shift+q exec --no-startup-id ws=$(i3-msg -t get_workspaces | jq '.[] | select(.focused) | .num') && ofs=$(i3-msg -t get_outputs | jq 'map(select(.active)) | length') && dest=$(($ws-$ofs)) && i3-msg move workspace $dest && i3-msg workspace $dest

bindsym $mod+Shift+w exec --no-startup-id ws=$(i3-msg -t get_workspaces | jq '.[] | select(.focused) | .num') && ofs=$(i3-msg -t get_outputs | jq 'map(select(.active)) | length') && dest=$(($ws+$ofs)) && i3-msg move workspace $dest && i3-msg workspace $dest

Works with sway if you replace i3-msg with swaymsg (and remove --no-startup-id, since it's not needed for Wayland).

Edit: ampersand issues, trying quote instead of code block

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EmergMemeHologram 2 points 3 years ago
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ctr1 1 point 3 years ago

My neovim config is a total mess :D. But yeah i3-msg+jq is great, I've written a number of solutions to this problem before using the API and external scripts, but it's nice having things inline in the config file

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EmergMemeHologram 2 points 3 years ago
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ctr1 1 point 3 years ago

Nice, sounds pretty cool. FZF is great, I need to try out some new things with it. Never got into snippets but I'm sure that speeds things up considerably, will think about it.

Yeah separate config files is probably the best approach if you have a lot of things configured. I haven't done that yet, but might try soon. My config has generally been pretty simple, mostly bindings and plugin settings. But I started developing in the TTY and had to shoehorn-in a conditional theme and such to get it to work properly, leaving it pretty unorganized.

| I can never leave vim. It has taken over the pathways in my brain.

Haha, yeah

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Kecessa -4 points 3 years ago

It's ok because Linux content really is Windows content because in the end Linux users can't talk about anything but Windows and how they hate it. Just like someone that got divorced and 20 years later still talks about their ex.

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dewritoninja 10 points 3 years ago

Projecting much

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Kecessa -1 points 3 years ago

Just pointing out what I see most times Linux memes reach my feed and I see Linux users commenting on tech related discussions.

DAE Windows le suck?

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aniki 4 points 3 years ago
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Kecessa -1 points 3 years ago

"most times" =/= "every time"

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MiDaBa 3 points 3 years ago

Windows does suck though. I think that's at least something to which we can all agree and rally around.

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Kecessa 1 point 3 years ago

I've got zero issues with it, I run 11 on four computers, if anything it's more trouble every time I have to use my RPi, as if the amount of time you spend using a tool affects how comfortable you are with it.

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backhdlp 2 points 3 years ago

I only say that Windows sucks when Windows is the initial topic

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Kecessa 0 points 3 years ago

Good for you? You're one of how many users?

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backhdlp 2 points 3 years ago

At least 2

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