luckily this is just a 32; i had a 70 from the same brand with the same INSANELY FUCKING STUPID STAND DESIGN that i had to find something for....literally at the most extreme edges of the thing, what the fuck is this? this is so fucking stupid, it cannot be meaningfully cheaper than a proper design and it looks fucking dumb as hell and surely this has pissed off 90% of people that wanted a TV and want to put it on a little stand like a normal fucking person right??
Why do all the new TVs expect me to have a platform AS WIDE as the fucking thing?? Fucking shit!! God awful absolutely dumb thoughtless design choice
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NuXCOM_90Percent 25 points 3 years ago
And considering the cost and relative light weight, are more or less a requirement
vanontom 30 points 3 years ago
Exactly. I think an aftermarket VESA mount is pretty much required these days for modern TVs, that's the bad news. The good news is that there are plenty of options (center base, wall, swivel, etc), some very affordable, and they should last for multiple TV generations (check VESA pattern, weight limits).
But I get that these tiny, wide feet can be mind boggling at first, since TVs all used to have center stands for decades. Finally, TVs got too large, the cost savings and stability from two tiny feet won out over the alternative of the large, heavy single center base.
IWantToFuckSpez -3 points 3 years ago
Yep OP went with a cheap brand, what did he expect.
orphiebaby 1 point 2 years ago
Samsung and everyone else does it too.
ShepherdPie 1 point 2 years ago
My LG C3 came with a center stand.
Carighan 151 points 3 years ago
The wider the TV gets, the more stable a two-feet-at-the-ends design becomes compared to a single central foot.
Plus if you need anything else, VESA mounts are super-standard and you just get whatever you need then use it on every Tv you buy.
sebinspace 24 points 3 years ago
For those that live in apartments, there are VESA stands that mount to the back of your furniture, and others that use a clamp for tables, so you don’t have to put holes in your walls. I use one on my desk for a fairly wide monitor.
If you’re unfamiliar with VESA mounts, just take note of which of the two standards your device uses. These are going to be either 75x75mm or 100x100mm. Verify with a ruler, don’t rely on the literature to be accurate.
If you wanna be mega-bougie about it, you can get just the mounting plate, and there is couple hardware available to pair it with aluminum extrusion, if you really like that 2040/2080 extrusion.
clay_pidgin 7 points 3 years ago
In my experience, you get spacers to make the VESA mount flat.
Carighan 2 points 3 years ago
Interesting and slightly worrying design by the manufacturer, tbh.
I have a TV with a sloped backside, but the VESA part had a removable panel that was replaced with a non-curved one before putting in the screws.
AlexWIWA 3 points 3 years ago
I wish higher end TVs had the option to buy without the stand. They always have beefy center stands in the box even though everyone mounts high end TVs.
Now I'm just stuck with a 50lbs stand that I have no use for.
starman2112 14 points 3 years ago
Show me the affordable TV made in the last 5 years that doesn't require a stand at least 90% as wide as the TV is
Don't say it's for stability, you could move the feet to be 1/3 of the way in and it'll be exactly as stable because it isn't tipping over sideways. Don't say it's for a sound bar, this is a TCL, that's the cheapest "I'm looking for a new TV but make minimum wage" brand you can find
A_Random_Idiot -77 points 3 years ago
Probably the dumbest take, Congrats. Go check the garbage for your cake.
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myplacedk 9 points 3 years ago
Yep, the included feet are just something you might be able to use until you get a real mount.
If you really want the TV to stand on furniture, buy a proper vesa mounted stand (they can be very cheap) and maybe even a proper TV table.
Kusimulkku 1 point 3 years ago
That stand doesn't seem tiny to me
DingoBilly 107 points 3 years ago
OP blaming their shitty decisions on others. Why are you buying something without knowing its dimensions?
Fuck I hate people like this. The answer btw is pretty obvious. From a weight distribution perspective it's easiest to have two feet as wide apart as possible.
magnusrufus 8 points 3 years ago
Most TV's don't list the width on the feet on the packaging do they?
DingoBilly 10 points 3 years ago
I looked up the shittiest TV brand available at my local electronics store and yeah, they do list the width with and without stands.
And if you plan on putting your TV on a table that is way too small, then I'd double check where the stands sit exactly, because it's not a design problem but a you problem.
People need to stop blaming their shitty planning on "bad design". It's the most common sense design that will work in most cases.
Next you'll have the guy who puts their TV on two separate chairs complain about the bad design of TV's that only have a single stand in the middle ffs.
magnusrufus 6 points 3 years ago
Weird. The last three TVs I bought didn't have the foot width listed on the box.
clegko 4 points 3 years ago
I just found what I believe is the same TV OP bought and it doesn't list the stand width. https://www.bestbuy.com/...
A number of other budget TV brands I checked don't have it listed, either - including a Fire TV from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/..._
FriedCheese 3 points 3 years ago
Tbf, sometimes the measurements are iffy. I bought a 55 inch TV that fits comfortably on my TV table. The TV had some issues so I went through a return with the manufacturer and they didn't have my specific TV in my size so they offered a 65 inch. I asked them if the measurements for the stand were the same and they read off the same distance as the 55 inch. I thought great! It will fit.
TV arrives and the stand legs were just an inch short on either side of the table, definitely not the same! But it still fit. I ended up securing the TV with those child straps just in case and plan to replace the table eventually.
Can't wall mount at the moment because of spacing issues but eventually will.
I had a similar issue with a monitor, the stand leg distance was listed but not the fact that it's width is half my desk. It doesn't help that some stores and manufacturers don't have a standardized list either.
starman2112 2 points 3 years ago
People are allowed to complain about annoying widespread design standards
DingoBilly -1 points 3 years ago
This is not bad design, it's just common sense.
People are way too entitled is the problem and assume that their bad planning/thinking automatically means something is badly designed. Blame anyone but themselves.
Globulart -3 points 3 years ago
People very upset that a company which exists to make money has used the cheaper option for the part of a TV that 80% of buyers will leave in the box anyway.
I saw a comment suggesting that it must only be $5 to add a proper stand. TCL made 30million TVs last year so that's a substantial bonus for whoever made that choice.
Breaking news! Budget TV has budget parts!
DingoBilly 6 points 3 years ago
Well I guess they just so it to annoy people then. There's no other reasons why they'd do this right?
DingoBilly 1 point 3 years ago
Why is it cutting corners though?
Ideally you'd have the option for both a central stand and the two sides in the one box, but then that's being wasteful and bad for the environment.
There really isn't a good option here. In that case I'd say it's on the consumer to figure out beforehand what the stand is and decide whether they like it or not, not on the company to magically know what stand the consumer needs.
Many companies do shitty things but this stand issue really is a non-issue.
JaxNakamura 1 point 3 years ago
I disagree that it is bad design. It's cheap and I also find it ugly, but it does get the job done just fine.
DingoBilly 0 points 3 years ago
This is not bad design, it's just common sense.
People are way too entitled is the problem and assume that their bad planning/thinking automatically means something is badly designed. Blame anyone but themselves.
krakenx 0 points 3 years ago
Do you actually own the TV or one with that same stand? 3/3 people I know, plus OP had to do something extra to make that stand work. That's bad design. Maybe not for the bottom line of the company, but definitely for the customer.
Functionally the stand is garbage too even if you do have a massive surface. It's not at all adjustable and it can easily damage your table if it shifts at all.
But I guess, expecting a product to work out of the box without third party add-ons like a VESA stand or needing to cut grooves in a wooden block to keep it from toppling over is "entitled" now.
DingoBilly 1 point 3 years ago
You're using anecdotes to back up your experience which is never a good sign.
This is a fairly basic TV stand design. If you honestly know 4 people who've struggled with this then I'm not sure what to tell you. Personally I've never heard of anyone have a problem with their TV stand. I myself have a central stand and it's pretty bulky/annoying itself and wouldn't fit on many smaller tables. But if you have an appropriate TV stand it's fine.
So yeah, I do think it's entitled that people expect every TV manufactured to magically work on their specific table, and if it doesn't it's badly designed. Put another way, why don't you look up some reviews of this TV and see how many people rate it highly vs complain about the stand? When I looked at similar designs they were very highly rated, so at least for the majority of people it's well designed and acknowledging you cannot have a single design that works for everyone.
OP in his post said he saw it in person so they even knew what they were buying and could easily measure it. I don't know how they can honestly go back and say it's badly designed and doesn't fit their table when they literally saw how it was designed and could have easily measured it out if they chose to.
_number8_ -27 points 3 years ago
well good thing they're a professional company with professional engineers, glad they're taking the easy route
i bought it because i was at the store and thought 'damn a bedroom tv would be nice' and it was black friday. it's only 32" i hope it fits on the table, and if not i can rig something up, but either way, god fucking dammit these new legs are terrible design because now i have to think about this instead of them just having a damn stand in the center like everyone used to
was sort of what i was thinking
ikidd 18 points 3 years ago
So take it back? If you put it back in the packaging and said "hey, this doesn't fit where I want it", they should take it back. I've never dealt with a store that wouldn't.
I could see this if you ordered it online, sight unseen. Like, if the website were text-based and had no pictures and the description was "It's a TV". But you were at a physical store...
Tuss 15 points 3 years ago
He knew the dimensions of the place where the TV was supposed to go.
He went to the store, saw the TV, he saw the box with a picture of it.
So he brought it home, unpacked it, placed it where it was obviously not going to be able to go.
Then he plugged it in and turned it on.
And instead of just putting it back in its packaging and bringing it back to the store and admit defeat. Or order a new piece of furniture Amazkea.
He instead went on here to fucking complain.
slackassassin 12 points 3 years ago
They gambled on an eyeball measurement from memory and lost. It's not that deep.
They don't need to return it because it can still be mounted on a stand or wall. And maybe they want to watch crooked Netflix in the meantime.
...And they complained on mildly infuriating, which seems appropriate because it's not that big of a deal.
snausagesinablanket 6 points 3 years ago
All he needs is a small piece of plywood for $5 to fix this.
intensely_human 3 points 3 years ago
Actually it’s been a design standard for a long time for screens to have a single pedestal support in the center. It’s reasonable for OP to buy a TV without checking because until recently these side legs wouldn’t have existed.
slackassassin 8 points 3 years ago
Feels like everyone is taking this a little too seriously for something mildy infuriating.
Surely, op is capable of solving this minor issue, which is why they rolled the dice that it might fit.
nxdefiant 8 points 3 years ago
$18 on Amazon, more adjustable than any stand that could possibly be included in the box:
bandario 8 points 3 years ago
This would involve successfully finding a wall stud to install on and the use of power tools. With the information OP has revealed about themselves, that seems like a recipe for a broken TV and half a wall ripped out or a trip to the ER. Of course it will be the fault of the drill manufacturer and they might sue.
CurlyMoustache 5 points 3 years ago
Then you should stop thinking
baatliwala 59 points 3 years ago
How do you not do research on the dimensions of anything before buying something big like a TV?
Obi 8 points 3 years ago
Mate I'll have done a 3D reconstruction of the room accurate to the mm to test everything out. I'm only slightly exaggerating, I literally did exactly that when planning my new office/studio, had the room in 3D long before we got the house, built everything myself, custom desk, acoustic treatment, etc.
IndefiniteBen 9 points 3 years ago
It just takes a single measurement to avoid this... Measure/estimate width of the cabinet, look at the TV width, look at pictures of the TV. Then, if the TV is wider than the platform and has wide legs, don't buy something that probably won't fit.
I agree with the others, OP rushed to buy this on black friday without enough thought and now regrets that decision.
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ElBarto 7 points 3 years ago
We had a tv sitting on the floor for a month at one house when I was a kid because that's as far as we could lift it inside and decided that's where it's living untill we build our giant tv cabinet.
atrielienz 1 point 3 years ago
Yeah. TV's used to have whole cabinets to hold them.
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DontTreadOnBigfoot 4 points 3 years ago
Build a whole wall house around it
MossyFeathers 20 points 3 years ago
You can make a stable mount without legs as wide as the TV. I have two 27in, 1440p monitors, which both came with stands that were probably 30% as wide as the monitors themselves. However, the stands were weighted and primarily steel (I'm assuming it was steel anyway) with a plastic shell. A TV doesn't need a wide base unless the company that made it is cheaping out and refuses to spend the money to make a weighted base.
CmdrShepard 28 points 3 years ago
This is like a $150 TV. They aren't going to make a $50 solid steel base and internal frame for that over some cheap injection molded legs.
techwithjake 4 points 3 years ago
Bro... That TV is over 7 years old, meant for health centers, and probably weighs 2 - 3 times the TV in OOP.
While yes, it is annoying, nothing modern has a center stand. https://www.google.com/...
It's definitely a cost cutting feature and you definitely can't expect a $200 TV to have a weighted center stand these days.
CmdrShepard 10 points 3 years ago
How is it annoying? I try to wall mount every TV because then I can move it around or angle it easily and it looks 100x better than hanging halfway off a bedside table.
Kolanaki 11 points 3 years ago
The annoying thing for me is that you have to plug them in and hiding the power cord from dangling down the wall to an outlet sucks, and the only other option is to wire it up through the wall, which is way more work.
That and, again, the mount is sold separately for like 90% of TVs. Just include a basic one with the TV. It's literally just a piece of machined metal.
CmdrShepard 1 point 3 years ago
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I just use these to hide any cables and it makes them nearly invisible.
It would be nice if they included mounts, but the VESA mounting system is standardized and there are lots of different styles of mounts to fit your needs.
wrath_of_grunge 9 points 3 years ago
if you're making giant holes in your wall, you're mounting wrong.
most wall mounts are going to be two or three bolt holes into a stud. they should be about as big around as a sharpie. if you remove the mount, a small dab of spackle covers them.
OutsizedWalrus 6 points 3 years ago
How often do you move your TV off its shelf?
MossyFeathers 5 points 3 years ago
You have to find the studs, drill holes, make sure you have screws that are long enough (I imagine most wall mounts come with these, but never tried to actually wall-mount a TV), make sure the mount is level, then attach the mount to the wall, then the TV to the mount. That's if you don't care about exposed cables, and if you ever plan on showing your room off, someone's gonna point out the lack of cable management (hurrr... Why aren't the cables hidden?).
If you want to hide the cables too, then you have to cut holes in the wall, which means having some kind of saw. If you want the holes to look nice, then you need plates to go over the holes. Depending on the plates -- whether they're a basic, generic passthrough that you push cables through, or something more professional with actual sockets for dedicated inputs/outputs -- you may need extra cables, one for each connection you're wanting to route through the wall, plus extra cables to connect the plate behind the TV to the TV itself.
Now, if you don't want to diy it, then you could pay someone to do it which makes it a lot easier on you, but now you're spending cash to have someone do an easy but annoying and time consuming job for you.
CmdrShepard 1 point 3 years ago
This is mostly unnecessary. I just slap the wall mount up into the studs, hang the TV, and use a $7 cable concealer to hide the power cord. Dedicated outlets for power and video behind the TV is great but that's more suited for rich people or electricians.
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HiddenLayer5 14 points 3 years ago
Yep, that's what I figured happened when they went from proper swivel pedestals to those stupid wedges. Hell even computer monitors are joining in on the action, the number of brand new, fairly high end and expensive monitors whose stock base is just bolted to the back and have zero adjustments is ridiculous.
A_Random_Idiot 8 points 3 years ago
I got a VESA stand for my grandparents TV for 15 bucks. Solid steel and sturdy as fuck.
HiddenLayer5 9 points 3 years ago
Yep, and the manufacturer can't even be bothered to spend that much more money to include a high quality stand with a thousand dollar TV with already high profit margins. Somehow, having to throw the default OEM parts in a landfill because they're intentionally low quality and barely usable and being forced to buy a passable replacement separately is just a thing that they expect us to do now. Capitalism innovates y'all!
A_Random_Idiot 3 points 3 years ago
Exactly. 15 bucks is my retail cost.
I bet mass producing those vesa feet to include in the box wouldnt even add 5 bucks to the total cost, and no one would care or notice the price, and would love the stronger, sturdier base that doesnt require the entire USS Nimitz just to set the damn thing down on.
kattenluik 14 points 3 years ago
I guarantee you the box and everything else also showed the legs being on the side.
Zess 7 points 3 years ago
Pretty sure when I got my tv there was info on the box about how large of a surface it needs to stand on. OP made a big purchase without doing any planning or research and now they're whining that something isn't right 🙄
lastunusedusername2 41 points 3 years ago
I can't help you but I love this post.
apinanaivot 21 points 3 years ago
That's because TV's no longer come with decent audio because they are made as thin as possible for whatever reason.
soggy_kitty 11 points 3 years ago
Bought a new OLED from LG last year. Main body is 3-4 inches thick and the sound is bloody incredible. There are still some gems out there
camelbeard 8 points 3 years ago
No surprise, a wide screen tv from the late 90s was big enough to house 2 gaint speakers and a subwoofer.
bemenaker 7 points 3 years ago
Flat Panel TV were always meant to use with a sound system. It is only meant to display video. The belief has always been they are for higher end viewing. And it's impossible to get good sound out of a audio in a chassis that thin, that is why sound bars exist. Ask anyone who knows home theaters and they will tell you more than 50% of the experience is the audio. You're better off spending money on a good audio system and even going with a smaller screen if dealing with budget constraints for the best experience. They make them as thin as possible because people want that.
dylanTheDeveloper 4 points 3 years ago
Yeah they rely on the sound bouncing back from the wall which is why some TVs have the speakers on the back
FreshLight 31 points 3 years ago
Hahahaha what do you mean? This has to be satire. Nobody is that dense right? If it doesn't fit, don't buy it lmao.
Icaria 14 points 3 years ago
Is it that hard to read the post? OP is right, almost every TV on the market has the same cheap, shitty plastic feet, and they're spaced as far apart as possible so you're unnecessarily size-limited when trying to buy something like a bedroom TV to sit on top of bookshelves or a tallboy.
I'd like something more than 32" for my bedroom too, but I can find one new 40-42" TV on the market with a central stand now, and it is some obscenely expensive 4K OLED thing from Sony. I am keeping an eye out for older, pre-owned TVs as a result, but am yet to find any good deals.
starman2112 3 points 3 years ago
I don't know a single damn person buying a TCL who has sound bar money
FreshLight 10 points 3 years ago
Central stands are just not that safe on bigger screens. Sadly, the easy way is to place feet on each side of the screen. One could always go for a wall mount.
If you don't like a product, don't buy it and if you know that every product has this design, then it's hardly a surprise when you unbox it at home.
This posts seems like OP didn't check if the TV would fit before buying and now they're angry at themselves.
MrScottyTay 6 points 3 years ago
Central stands made as shittily as the ones they put in the box, sure. A proper good central stand that uses the VESA mounts of a TV is a million times safer in my opinion
IndefiniteBen 4 points 3 years ago
Almost like you get what you pay for. The manufacturer goes for the cheapest stand to make the entire TV cheaper.
If it had a good central stand it might be more expensive and then OP would buying a different cheaper TV with shitty stands.
PissinSelfNdriveway 30 points 3 years ago
You'd be first in line bitching that your TV fell over if they moved them in 6". Wall mounts are $18.... buy one
RememberTheApollo_ 29 points 3 years ago
Two tiny legs are cheaper than a large flipped “T” base for it to rest on.
Pulptastic 29 points 3 years ago
At least you have a cat to hold it up
Tygr 26 points 3 years ago
All of you saying you need center stands don’t realize how much heavier the stand needs to be for safety. For cheap TVs, you will get wide stands for freight reasons. They usually come with mounting mechanisms where you can get your own stand that will cost more than the TV itself.
Common sense people. If these shipped with center stands the cost would be double and you’d be complaining about how there’s no TV deals anymore.
breakfastmtn 21 points 3 years ago
You're clearly in the pocket of Big TV Stand.
jayrodtheoldbod 25 points 3 years ago
They're expecting you to have a mount for your wall, already installed, even, from the last TV. So the legs are an afterthought, they're cheap, easy to remove and you'll probably toss them, they know. So they're enough to use for store display, no more.
atrielienz 2 points 3 years ago
Buying a paint can and some spackle isn't expensive enough to prevent me from drilling into the walls (unless you've got popcorn walls or something and that's just foul). I have done it it in several rentals and got my deposit back in full. The other portion option though in this instance is to buy a VESA mount. Some of which can even just be mounted to the tv stand.
But also, people should do research before they buy things.
masterspace 23 points 3 years ago
Because it is genuinely is way cheaper to include 4x 4" plastic legs, than a steel center stand capable of withstanding the torque.
For people who wall mount and for those with wide tv stands these work fine and save probably $30 / TV, and produce less overall waste.
thatgirlwasfire 22 points 3 years ago
I don’t understand why most of the commenters are against you, i find the change from center stands to edge stands annoying. Especially since it seems difficult find smaller TVs nowadays
Angry_Maple 1 point 3 years ago
I used to fear what would happen if I dropped one of the older TV's on my foot. It was a pretty great motivator to not drop it, and to try to fall towards it if I fell. Sometimes it even took two people to move them because they were heavy and awkward.
We have definitely advanced in making them more moveable, and I'm happy about that. I don't miss throwing out my back.
I do miss the screen static though.
doggle 4 points 3 years ago
Pretty much every landlord in the world will let you hang things on the wall, so long as it's not unreasonably destructive. They're pretty much planning on doing a little spackle and painting the place when any tenant moves out anyway.
A tv mount usually only requires 4-6 screw holes, which wouldn't be hard to fix later on.
atrielienz -1 points 3 years ago
Especially in earthquake prone places like the West Coast (USA) or even like India. Even furniture should be mounted to the wall in a lot of places. If it's a health and safety issue (like flat panel tvs would be), then they absolutely will not risk going to court over it and being liable for injuries. I don't get this argument.
MrScottyTay 3 points 3 years ago
You can get proper central tv stands that use the VESA mounts. They're great, keep the TV super stable and allows a little bit of swivel if needed too
MrScottyTay 1 point 3 years ago
No you should get a proper stand that mounts to the TV
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MrScottyTay 1 point 3 years ago
That doesn't seem entirely the stands fault
wrath_of_grunge 16 points 3 years ago
because the TV is that wide.
not sure what you expect them to do about it.
_number8_ -7 points 3 years ago
TVs were like this for years.... https://www.lg.com/...
CalicoJack -9 points 3 years ago
Center-mount stands have been around for years, and were the standard for a very long time. If made well, they work for very large TVs.
They're doing this to cheap out on manufacturing, nothing more. Don't give them a pass for it.
Kid_Thunder 6 points 3 years ago
This is a TCL TV. It is a budget TV. Of course, they're going to make it as cheap as possible, otherwise it wouldn't be a budget TV.
Frankly I doubt this TV is more than $150 USD when NOT on sale. Surely not over $200.
I don't mean to be offensive about any of it. It is perfectly fine to buy a TV within your budget but this definitely fits within the expectation of this kind of TV.
It is also very likely not going to have Roku support 5 years past the model's initial manufacture date either.
There should be absolutely no surprises here.
Catoblepas 2 points 3 years ago
I have a 2014 TV that has a center mount, I had no idea newer ones didn't. I double checked the instruction manual just to be sure we haven't been slowly fucking something up, but the installation mentions nothing about making sure that the table is a minimum size.
PissinSelfNdriveway 18 points 3 years ago
Sketchy fast math says a 32" TV will be roughly 30" wide .... Feet appear to be 3" in on each side which would put them at 24" on center... What kind of umpa lumpa ass table do you have? If that is your only option you can get a treated 8' decking board for like $8, have Lowe's cut it in half and throw it on top of the table to extend it.
Evil_Shrubbery 18 points 3 years ago
It's way cheaper to produce such stands (they can be way less sturdy).
Also stop wide-shaming your perfectly nice 32" cat.
jacktherippah 17 points 3 years ago
I don't have anything to say about the TV sitch but your cat is pretty.
electric 16 points 3 years ago
I actually just bought a Sansui TV that almost wouldn't have fit the desk but it had 2 sets of places where the legs could be attached, so I just attached them to the inner ones. Welcome change. Not sure how uncommon it is since I've only owned like 5 TVs and most just had the little circular base in the middle instead.
The legs being so far out is maybe since manufactures found it to be the most stable places for the skinny leg designs they use now. So yeah, cost cutting measure probably.
Eggyhead 16 points 3 years ago
I measure the shit out of everything before I even go out to buy a TV. Having this feet design simply would have meant that either I wouldn’t have bought this televisi, or I already intend to replace the table.
donslaught 2 points 3 years ago
A lot of show models in stores are wall mounted these days, saves on space (especially at places like Walmart and Target where they sell smaller sizes). That's being said, though, it doesn't take much to look under a wall-mounted TV to figure it where the foot(s) go.
cupcakezealot 14 points 3 years ago
give your cat some scritches for me :)
Brunbrun6766 14 points 3 years ago
You should seek a therapist
Aussiemandeus 3 points 3 years ago
Lasagne
FuglyDuck 1 point 3 years ago
that's so rude. you realize, of course, that orange cats only have one brain cell each, it looks like it's shared because that cell is quantum entangled with every other orange brain cell. So it's not that the one cell gets passed around, rather its that all orange cats are thinking the same thought at the same time.
and it's usually "i'm hungry."
disconnectikacio 11 points 3 years ago
There are many thoughtless, idiotic design choices today, for example curved edge phone screens, shitty ultrasonic/photo fingerprint sensors in the scren, no jack connector, microsim, etc. I call it engineer idiotism.
FordBeeblebrox 10 points 3 years ago
That and the endless pressure to innovate means they end up suggesting stupid shit no one wants and have the sales folks work that out
barsoap 7 points 3 years ago
Your ears don't understand digital signals, you can generally run (unbalanced!) audio over tens of metres without degrading audio quality (because impedance /= resistance) as judged with actually good headphones, and no in-ears have anywhere close to good sound, anyway.
With good muffs the deciding factor (ignoring source material) will be the quality of the DAC, not where it's placed. And even the shittiest DACs nowadays are good enough to drive the best in-ears, simply due to in-ears having, physically, no choice but being shoddy.
barsoap 2 points 3 years ago
We already do have the same connector for all headphones. Well there's also 6.35mm jacks but they're practically the same connector in more shear resistant (it is terribly easy to shear off straight 3.5mm jacks by stumbling over the headphone cord. I recommend a straight plug to straight socket section as predetermined breaking point, and an angled connector on the appliance side).
Headphones neither receive digital signals nor DC power, those are the areas USB-C is actually for... and even within that category we should be careful: Imagine all monitors being USB-C, people nowadays can't even manage to plug their monitor into the GPU instead of motherboard if every connector is USB-C, and they of course all won't have the same feature set, they'll plug it into the mouse our audio port.
What I definitely welcome is the death of the barrel jack, while the form factor is fine they never managed to standardise voltages and polarities. My cheap 10 buck kitchen scale I bought a week ago has a USB-C connector to charge the LIR2450 inside, that's perfect: No fast charging no nothing it just takes straight 5V meaning it will happily charge off a PC from the 1990s, cheap to implement for the manufacturer and they don't need to supply a wall plug.
doggle 4 points 3 years ago
Going all-digital is better for sound quality.
This doesn't make any sense. All sound signals must convert to analogue at some point. You simply cannot vibrate the air creating sound waves with a digital signal. Technically I suppose you could, but all you music would just sound like unintelligible beeping, and you'd still need some kind of amplifier to hear it anyway.
All we've done is move the DAC from the phone into the earbuds, or maybe a dongle. The latter may result in better audio if you have a high quality dongle, but the DAC in a pair of wireless earbuds will almost always sound worse simply due to size and power constraints.
HerbalGamer 2 points 3 years ago
oh sure start giving them ideas about usb-c headphone adapters
MrScottyTay 11 points 3 years ago
Sadly nowadays the stands that come in a box should just be used temporarily tool you get a more permanent solution. You can get done really good mounts that use the VESA mounts at the back.
I would never trust the standard stands, they have way too much wobble to them.
RizzRustbolt 3 points 3 years ago
Very difficult to sleep on.
TyGamer 11 points 3 years ago
I mean two little hunks of plastic are most definitely cheaper than something big and sturdy in the middle as it needs to be over engineered to make up for the lack of physics being on its side. You can buy an aftermarket TV stand or wall mount it.
Pyr_Pressure 2 points 3 years ago
The two pieces of plastic don't need to be right at the ends though, a third of the way in would probably be perfectly fine
atrielienz 1 point 3 years ago
They put them so far apart so you can put a sound bar underneath. If it weren't this way someone else would be complaining here that their new Black Friday soundbar doesn't fit under there TV.
prime_number_314159 10 points 3 years ago
I agree. The tipping threat on a TV is almost exclusively front to back, not side to side. Putting the support legs closer to the middle, but still spaced a third of the width of the TV should be totally adequate. I suspect it's an aesthetics thing now.
Threeme2189 3 points 3 years ago
Good point!
intensely_human 1 point 3 years ago
Our cat in spot
MrJameGumb 9 points 3 years ago
They think everyone wants to mount them to the wall now, the legs are like the cheapest possible "courtesy" they're willing to include. It's super annoying, I really don't want the thing on my wall with a bunch of wires hanging down
ComradeBunnie 6 points 3 years ago
I'd actually love to wall mount but as a renter, not possible.
Currently living with elderly family and she also won't have a bar of a wall mount.
atrielienz 0 points 3 years ago
That sounds illegal. A rental can't really stop you from installing certain safety features. But if I read that right you're renting from and living with an elderly couple and they have refused like a shower bar or similar. If they themselves refuse the safety feature that would be installed for them that's... Legal I guess.
ComradeBunnie 2 points 3 years ago
I'm living with my grandmother in law and she's just very fussy. Sometimes we think, I'd rather just pay rent somewhere, but we love her and she's unwell and we're saving money so we're all looking after each other for now and trying not to sweat the small stuff like hanging a television when we don't really need to.
I honestly haven't even asked, but I know what the answer will be - can't even leave the toaster that I use daily on the bench, has to go away once cooled. Getting to leave my coffee machine out was a bloody battle.
Her house, we live here for free and just pay our share of utilities and do our own groceries, and I help her if she is having a bad health day etc. It's fine. It's (mostly) worth the frustration.
I'm more annoyed with the limitations that renters experience in general - it's the landlord's property, but it's the renter's home, and sometimes it feels like we're never really allowed to make any place our own, what with all the rules and regulations and punishments.
ETA: "won't have a bar of.. ", ie she won't accept that sort of thing.
grue 3 points 3 years ago
Cut a hole behind the TV and another where you want the wires to come out, then fish the wires through the wall. Finish off the holes with cable access brush plates like this:
(Either that, or use keystone jacks and separate cables of the appropriate type within the wall.)
MrJameGumb 5 points 3 years ago
I really don't want to cut a bunch of (or even just 2) holes in my wall though. If I rearrange the room I'll have to make more holes and it's just too much
MrJameGumb 2 points 3 years ago
No thank you. I just want it to sit on the shelf next to my record player
MrJameGumb 0 points 3 years ago
Or they could, you know, just include a stand that doesn't suck?
There's no need to get so upset about it
CanadaPlus 9 points 3 years ago
I've seen the design and I thought it made good sense mechanically, but I hadn't considered this issue. I wonder if stand designs are getting wider too, as a result.
fox2263 8 points 3 years ago
Have you tried moving it an inch to the left?
😅 I kid.
You can buy a vesa stand mount though fairly cheap.
Sony currently do a cool thing with their stands where you can place them in 3 or so different position along the tv if you wanted. Finally someone thinking!
jenny_ball 8 points 3 years ago
that's why i like the lg stand
Psychodelic 8 points 3 years ago
People really out here at stupid levels of angry now, eh?
Extrasvhx9he 6 points 3 years ago
No idea but cute cat
newIdentity 6 points 3 years ago
Because the TV is exactly the same width.
Bruncvik 6 points 3 years ago
Just got my first TV since my old vacuum tube stopped working in the early 90s. 55" Sony flat screen. It has gour fixtures for its stands: a pair that's narrow close to the centre, and a pair if you want a wide stance. I didn't mind the wide option, but I appreciated having a choice.
Seasoned_Greetings 6 points 3 years ago
This is the conspiracy theorist in me, but it feels a little like they intentionally made it that way to sell more mounts.
douglasg14b 6 points 3 years ago
Damn, this is some next level entitled, petulant, energy.
If you're gonna complain, at least try to do it constructively. As opposed to... Whatever this drivel is.
IWantToFuckSpez 5 points 3 years ago
Don’t buy TCL if you want a nice stand included.
Patches 5 points 3 years ago
That is so in case it falls then it falls onto the TV Stand not a child.
They don't expect you to do that - but too many people went 'I didn't know' right after their baby head caved in because they didn't child proof anything.
Kecessa 6 points 3 years ago
LG C1, C2, C3, they're models, their G series also has a center stand. What people don't understand is that center stands need to be very heavy, they have a separate chunk of steel that's added to the base so the TV is stable, that makes them much more expensive than four plastic legs placed at the extremities. So the people that complain about the legs are also the same people that would look at the 100$ price difference and just not buy the model with the center stand.
_number8_ -10 points 3 years ago
exactly, thank you. i love everyone blaming me for not reading the box -- i knew it would be this obnoxious, i was hoping the table was slightly wider.
but most importantly, it is OBJECTIVELY awful design! i don't care if it's cheaper for them! i don't understand why everyone has some dumb snarky comment when 10+ years ago every flatscreen had a center mount and everything was fine!
atrielienz 1 point 3 years ago
What's cheaper for them allowed it to be cheaper for you...
possiblylinux127 4 points 3 years ago
I'm confused why there is a cat in this photo
statues_lasers 4 points 3 years ago
OP is clearly complaining that TVs are as wide as his cat.
Pistcow 4 points 3 years ago
Usually, It's to distribute the weight. Cheaper brands won't put the weight in the base needed.my LG oled came with a massive but narrow base. I mounted to the wall with a pull and tilt mount and sold the base on offer up for $50.
LavaPlanet 4 points 3 years ago
Came across the same issue when I set up my dads new bedroom telly for him, I bodged it up with a plank on top of the dresser it was sitting on.
SirQuackTheDuck 5 points 3 years ago
Most modern tvs have some kind of vesa, so you can just spend the 50 bucks on a mount, like this one.
uis 3 points 3 years ago
HOW MUCH? It costs like 10$ for simple stand and 20-30$ for fancy one with all adjustments in the world.
To be fair I can't see what mount you linked, because walmart desn't want their site to load in my country.
SirQuackTheDuck 1 point 3 years ago
I just typed in "vesa tv stand" and clicked on the first image. Weird how it doesn't load for you, it loads just fine for me from the Netherlands.
ridethespiral 3 points 3 years ago
This post sure brought out the ugly in some people...
DanteFlame 3 points 2 years ago
They want you to stop being poor and get better furniture if you want a big tv
const_void 2 points 3 years ago
It's cheaper to make it that way. Less materials needed.
RangerJosie 1 point 2 years ago
Get a universal wall mount.
temp_acct_001 0 points 3 years ago
Swap the legs around so they face inward, not out.
DudeDudenson -2 points 3 years ago
Everyone's talking about it being stable, but what's the benefit in stability from having the legs a couple of inches off the end compared to having them halfway from the center to the end?
I don't think it would be worse in any way and it would allow the TV's to stand on smaller surfaces
stolid_agnostic 5 points 3 years ago
It’s when you one day accidentally bump the table hard and the TV falls on its face. That’s why they are wide—to prevent that.
DudeDudenson 1 point 3 years ago
Me with my feet closer to my elbows rather than me with my feet closer to my hands (thinking of T pose)
Texas_Hangover -11 points 3 years ago
Mount it on the wall jackass.
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Centre stands need to be way more sturdy to hold it up. You can buy aftermarket VESA centre stands though if you can't wall mount it.
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