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elliot_crane 142 points 2 years ago

It is morally correct to adblock youtube.

E: I can’t hear any of these counterpoints over the sweet ad-free youtube I’m getting for free.

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Ilovethebomb 10 points 2 years ago

Or just not watch.

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Usernameblankface 21 points 2 years ago

Not watching has a much better moral argument.

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Ilovethebomb -3 points 2 years ago

Yup. But people would rather just carp on about Revanced and Insidious or whatever, as if everyone has the time to and the inclination to set that up.

Meanwhile, everyone else will piss and moan for a month, then pay up and keep watching.

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Ostrichgrif 21 points 2 years ago

If you have the time to watch YouTube enough that you're considering premium you have enough time to set up these systems. The time it saves you makes back the setup time very quickly for someone watching even a moderate amount of YouTube.

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Gamoc 7 points 2 years ago

What the hell are you talking about? I download an apk, I install it, I'm done. How many ads will you sit through before you've wasted the whole minute it would've taken to do?

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umbrella 0 points 2 years ago
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net00 4 points 2 years ago
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sugar_in_your_tea 0 points 2 years ago

I highly doubt anyone is "forced" to use YouTube, unless you work for a YT channel or something. There are plenty of alternatives, and while they don't have the same content, they have other enjoyable content.

I've moved about half of my watching to Nebula, and almost a quarter to Odysee. There are still some channels I really enjoy on YouTube, but I could totally stop watching those.

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net00 3 points 2 years ago
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umbrella 1 point 2 years ago
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Cock_Inspecting_Asexual 3 points 2 years ago

Use Revanced and forever be free

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kameecoding -11 points 2 years ago

Wouldnt that just cause them to increase prices more? Since now someone else has to pay for the bandwith you use?

Thus what you are doing is using your technological know how to offload your costs onto less technical users who can't adblock.

The morally correct thing to do is to stop watching youtube and/pr go to a paid platform that's an alternative, like floatplane or nebula and support the creators there, isn't it? But let's be honest, we all know you just want adfree youtube videos for free.

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praise_idleness 45 points 2 years ago
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brbposting 2 points 2 years ago

Level set: ads suck


Least they can do is to serve adfree videos

Now, corporations are greedy right?

Genuine question: What does Greedy Google do if we all install adblock on all our neighbors’ computers tonight?

(@kameecoding@lemmy.world)

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elliot_crane 13 points 2 years ago

I’m ok with all of that. It furthers my goal of hitting the platform back in response to their predatory marketing practices and de facto monopoly. Also, I do support creators outside of youtube. In short, I don’t feel bad about any of this.

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

That might be their response, yes. But they also have some other options:

  • improve the service to be worth the cost
  • reduce the cost to increase Premium subs - I have a price in mind, and they're way above it
  • add an a la carte alternative to Premium (i.e. pay per video or something)
  • cut expenses, such as by reducing the amount of useless videos that are uploaded (i.e. small charge to upload videos, recur every year; allow some amount for free)

But no, raising prices is the easier "solution." I'm willing to pay (I pay for Nebula, after all), I'm just not willing to pay what they're asking for the service as-is.

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kameecoding 1 point 2 years ago

Okay, so if you are not willing to pay that's entirely reasonable, you can then not use the service or use it with ads.

Dont get me wrong, I do have pirated movies and shows, it has reasons like scrubs they changed the music, community they took down an episode for no reason, but that shit doesn't cost anyone anything I dont use extra bandwith or anything

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

There's a third option: use the service with an ad blocker. The way I see it, that's not piracy, it's a TOS violation, and they're free to block me from their site. But as long as I'm not bypassing copyright protections or something, it's not piracy. I think using something like Invidious or other FEs could constitute piracy, but just using their website w/ an ad-blocker isn't.

I'm willing to pay (again, I pay for Nebula), but I'm not willing to pay the price they're asking for.

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Tja -4 points 2 years ago

Prepare for the downvotes!

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Fiivemacs 101 points 2 years ago

just cancel all subscriptions. None of them are worth it

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gregor 39 points 2 years ago

Bitwarden is worth it. (Yes, I know, I should self host it. I do, but I still see it as a good deal.) Also Hetzner is a good subscription. So yes, some are worth it

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Engywuck 9 points 2 years ago

Agreed:

-Bitwarden

-Storage Share

-ControlD

-Real debrid

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deranger 20 points 2 years ago

Backblaze as well. Can’t believe they let me store 20TB of backups for $10/mo.

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Merlin404 3 points 2 years ago

By there site its more like $120 a month?

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gregor 2 points 2 years ago

That's an insanely good deal! I should move pict-rs to backblaze on my Lemmy server

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kratoz29 2 points 2 years ago

So, only cheap services are worth it?

Are there some expensive services that are worth it? not just that they increase their price just because.

Don't get me wrong, I want more examples (and I am a happy subscriber of Real-Debrid for years already).

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v4ld1z 1 point 2 years ago

Out of curiosity, what do you do with all that storage? Can't imagine I'd ever need that much personally

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gregor 1 point 2 years ago

Object storage is indeed insanely cheap

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

I like SimpleFIN ($1.50/mo IIRC) + Actual Budget. I can pull in transaction data from multiple sources into my self-hosted Actual Budget service, which is super nice (or I can DIY if I want).

I used to use Tiller ($80/year I think?), which is basically the same, but it pulls transactions into a spreadsheet (Google Docs or Microsoft Office) and they have some budgeting tools around that. I'm trying to move away from Google and Microsoft, so I ended up cancelling, but I really liked their service.

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anas 1 point 2 years ago

What do you need that isn’t in the free version?

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gregor 3 points 2 years ago

Authenticator. Also, I would like to support the devs. Running a server and developing the software itself is far from free.

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anas 2 points 2 years ago

Fair enough, but does having your passwords and 2FA on the same service not defeat the purpose of 2FA?

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

I pay for it because it was required to share passwords with my SO. That's now in the free version, so I don't really need it anymore, but it's $10/year, so I keep the sub to support the devs. I'll probably end it once I self-host it.

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dulce_3t_decorum_3st -1 points 2 years ago
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gregor 1 point 2 years ago

What?

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Dudewitbow 8 points 2 years ago

i meam the payment for a domain name is kinda worth it. as well as a functional vpn

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gregor 1 point 2 years ago

Agreed. Mullvad is absolutely epic. A question: why do we have to pay for domain names? And why do some providers offer a domain at a lower price than others, while offering the same services? it doesn't make sense to me, an explaination is welcome

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Dudewitbow 4 points 2 years ago

a couple of reasons, some being that 1, ip addresses are limited on the internet, and making it free would instantly fill it up. another is that there is still some work involved,because once you register for a domain, internet service providers and DNS providers around the world need to also add your newly established domain to ip to their DNS so that people get redirected to your domain correctly. the domain endings also have a cost attached to them due to popularity and who is allowed to hand them out. e.g country related domains (e.g .kr for korea, .fr for france has their reasons to charge or without handing a domain out, but some countries may get lucky and happen to have a domain thats desirable (e.g Anguilla has .ai) and thus will charge more

you also want to prevent domain name ransoming. if domain names were free, there will be people registering for all domain names to use as bargaining chips against a person or company similar to social media handles

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

And it's really not that much, it's like $10/domain/year, though it varies by TLD (vanity TLDs are more, less desirable ones are less).

I have about 10, and I'll probably free up half of those the next time I need to pay for them (they were for a business idea that I've largely given up on).

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gregor 1 point 2 years ago

Thanks for the explanation!

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theneverfox 2 points 2 years ago

Because it's a monopoly created by international agreement. It's like a phone number - it needs to be routable in the system, but if you follow the standards, you can get integrated into the system as a registrar

The top level domains are owned by countries - the UK has .UK, the US has .com and .gov, the UK has .io (because they stole it), but most countries have just one. They charge a fee to register a secondary domain, and the registrar can charge whatever they want to their customers to register on their behalf

This is just the centralized system though - you could build your own, AOL tried to do that through "keywords" back in the 90s

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BananaTrifleViolin 3 points 2 years ago

I pay for my email (Proton) password manager (last pass), and VPN (nordvpn).

I'd say subs that maintain your privacy and security are well worth it - there is no such thing as a free lunch and instead the tech giants are dining out at the expense of users.

Googles ad monopoly needs to be torn apart. Because YouTube premium prices may actually represent what it really costs to maintain video sites like YouTube, but Google have managed to destroy all competition with the free model and now there is no one realistically able to compete on content or price.

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forgotaboutlaye 9 points 2 years ago

Sorry if you get this a lot, but have you tried Bitwarden? It's been a while since I compared but last I checked I found it miles better than LastPass.

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gregor 2 points 2 years ago

Or Proton Pass, they already use Proton for email

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kambusha 6 points 2 years ago

Proton has a password manager and VPN. May be worth bundling over paying for all 3 separately

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

email

Same, but Tuta and Bitwarden (don't currently use a paid VPN, I host my own).

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dmtalon -6 points 2 years ago

So, steal everything or something else? Content isn't free. The ad model exists, but only works if people see the ads.

If everyone blocks all ads, and doesn't pay a subscription, how's that work for those providing the service?

I'm not defending YouTube here, just curious what your solution is to have a service and not pay for it.

I do pay for YT family Premium in the US. I watch mostly YT, and it is my music streaming service. I definitely​ liked it more when it was costing me $15/mo for that and was mad when that went to $23. I even tried switching to Spotify and using ad blocking on YT. I didn't jive with Spotify, and while ad blockers work for YT, it's a bit of a pain installing them on TV boxes and managing subscriptions across devices, asking with which videos you've seen etc.

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ugo 11 points 2 years ago
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dmtalon 1 point 2 years ago

YouTube is but one, and as I said while the story is about yt I was talking Mir in general. How do you pay for content/services in general?

Right now with via ads or a subscription.

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ugo 1 point 2 years ago
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TechAnon 3 points 2 years ago

Not op, but I think a solution would be having AI watch the videos and tracking what the people are saying, wearing, using etc and posting links to purchase those things in the description. They get a cut of sales and can also sell links for competing products if companies want more exposure. This could be effective and noninvasive. Give a cut to content creators and it may be even more effective.

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dmtalon 0 points 2 years ago

How's that work on tvs?

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TechAnon 1 point 2 years ago

They'd have to modify the tv app.

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umami_wasbi 72 points 2 years ago
  • Firefox + uBO
  • NewPipe/LibrePipe/GrayJay
  • FreeTube

They all are free, no subscription required

And sorry Apple users, I don't know what option you have cuz I don't use Apple.

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gilarelli 11 points 2 years ago

Freetube doesn't seem to work anymore (for me at least) as Google went hard on blocking all invidious instances and proxies...

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_Sprite 28 points 2 years ago

Change your API backend to LocalAPI in the settings. It still works that way on Freetube and Libretube

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bigFab 1 point 2 years ago

How do you do that?

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_Sprite 15 points 2 years ago

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gilarelli 1 point 2 years ago

Thanks. Seems to work for now, we'll see. Couldn't watch anything yesterday :-/

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falseprophet 1 point 2 years ago

Works fine for me

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gilarelli 1 point 2 years ago

Which instance?

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falseprophet 2 points 2 years ago

Local API, not invidious api

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Maeve 0 points 2 years ago

Working fine on librewolf so far.

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Interstellar_1 8 points 2 years ago

Also Revanced

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Quik 5 points 2 years ago

iOS user here, uYou++ is quite good, but only a mod for the regular YT app, not a complete alternative.

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narc0tic_bird 4 points 2 years ago

iOS/iPadOS: Safari + AdGuard (+ Vinegar (optional))

macOS: Safari + AdGuard or Firefox + uBO or FreeTube

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ondra5 4 points 2 years ago

As an iPhone user I like to use YtLitePlus, it’s pretty much the same user experience as using revanced on android, maybe even a bit better. I’d like to have an alternative client such as NewPipe but hey, we can’t have everything.

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Maeve 3 points 2 years ago

I switched from FF to librewolf. Less convenient, more privacy, no pesky G**gle partnerships, afaict.

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umbrella 2 points 2 years ago
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jBlight 1 point 2 years ago

I use to use tubular, but it stopped working and I'm not computer savy enough to fix it. Can anyone offer some assistance please? It gets the infinite loading icon and then gives me an error

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AbsoluteChicagoDog 48 points 2 years ago
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Petter1 3 points 2 years ago

Except youtube music, I guess

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bss03 4 points 2 years ago

The whole reason I got on YT Premium was because it was free with Google Play Music. I have real issues watch non-Premiun now, because I've always disliked advertising methods. (Not so much th ads, which can be entertaining, but just being shown content I didn't request instead of the content I did request.)

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hightrix 4 points 2 years ago

RIP Google Play Music. The best music service to ever exist.

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orl0pl 2 points 2 years ago

YouTube Music Revanced or Innertune (on fdroid)

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LordWiggle 2 points 2 years ago

Get the RiMusic app. YouTube music without ads.

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VintageGenious 1 point 2 years ago

SpMp is the best

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TachyonTele -1 points 2 years ago

What does YouTube music have that regular YouTube doesn't? I have a ton of playlists on YouTube for music. Everything is on there.

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LordWiggle 2 points 2 years ago

The awesome algorithm for recommendations on YouTube was turned off to prevent fake news bubbles. This means that when you listen to a song and want YouTube to create a Playlist with similar artists for you, this doesn't work anymore. But this function does still work with YouTube music.

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TachyonTele 1 point 2 years ago

Interesting, thanks.

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Petter1 2 points 2 years ago

Better quality and nicely sorted discographies

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NOT_RICK 47 points 2 years ago

Funny, I still pay them my same flat fee of nada

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solsangraal 46 points 2 years ago
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shalafi 10 points 2 years ago

This is simply Business 101. Once you have a customer base you want to trade low-payers for high.

Did this with my computer business years ago. Woke up one day and said, "Why am I sweating these cheapskates that constantly bitch?" Fired them and kept the higher-paying, and less bitchy, clients. I was making more money for less effort and less overhead.

I don't know what amazes me more, that people keep paying when they know the price will keep going up, or that people bitch and moan. Last I checked, YouTube access isn't a human right. I'll keep using it until these is no way around their ads, but I'm not paying them a dime.

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Cypher 5 points 2 years ago
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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

Exactly. My brother bought an accounting firm and is planning to do just that. You can probably double-dip as well by selling these customers to a competitor/new startup as referrals.

Business tends to follow exactly that model:

  1. get users at any cost, and lose money if you have to
  2. raise prices to improve profitability
  3. go to 1 if needed (i.e. promotions), otherwise go to 2
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Ilandar 4 points 2 years ago
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Magnolia_ 3 points 2 years ago

Hello based department?

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Juice 40 points 2 years ago

I can't wait for google to crash and burn. Bring back GeoCities and Netscape navigator.

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dependencyinjection 22 points 2 years ago

Like Reddit dying after the API incident?

Just like Reddit, Google are going nowhere; sadly.

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Juice 0 points 2 years ago

Google is having problems, they can't make profits anymore. Its different because reddit was never profitable, but googles been profitable for years.

Edit: I said they can't make profits, but what I should have said is they can't innovate and produce new value, they can only cut expenses and squeeze consumers with subscriptions and advertisements in order to remain profitable. Eventually there won't be anything left to cut and will then cease to be profitable. Google is on the decline.

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dependencyinjection 3 points 2 years ago
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Juice 1 point 2 years ago
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dependencyinjection 2 points 2 years ago

My first comment wasn’t rude, but I’ll concede that my second one was because you incorrectly assumed I was calling out something about your psychology.

As for the information you provided, nothing in there hinted at Google failing as a company and more just highlighting some of the failings of recent times.

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Juice 1 point 2 years ago

"You made me be rude after I insulted you and you called me out on it"

Leave me alone. I've wasted enough time on you. You clearly have your mind made up and can't even comprehend why someone would be skeptical of a company that is driving away its users and advertisers, of which I provided many examples. I wrote several paragraphs supporting my argument, and several sources. You responded in seconds with two sentences. Hopefully you wise up before taking a bath on whatever your investments are. I wish you all the best in life, but this is finished.

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cupcakezealot 7 points 2 years ago

bring back web 1.0 because web 1.0 was superior.

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Juice 2 points 2 years ago

I have been saying this for years

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Qkall 5 points 2 years ago

There's a neocities project... As for Netscape... I think SeaMonkey is still active?

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

Eh, I don't need Netscape, but I need Firefox to not die/turn into AI spamware. I'm also excited about Servo, hopefully that becomes a project in its own right.

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JackbyDev 2 points 2 years ago

🤩

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OldQWERTYbastard 36 points 2 years ago

Use NewPipe if you're on Android.

You're welcome.

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PotatoesFall 12 points 2 years ago

Firefox + uBlock Origin already does it too. No ads, and I can listen even when my phone is locked.

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CluelessDude 8 points 2 years ago

Tubular if you want a newpipe fork that also includes Sponsor skips!

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bitfscker 1 point 2 years ago

Or NewPipe SponsorBlock (Obsolete, see below) Or FreeTube for Android

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viking 2 points 2 years ago

That's been discontinued, Tubular is the active fork.

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bitfscker 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks for pointing that out! 🙂👍

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Fluba 7 points 2 years ago

FreeTube for desktop.

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bitfscker 3 points 2 years ago

There is an Android version as well

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Sho 3 points 2 years ago

Just did cause of ur comment actually, thank you so much!

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virku 2 points 2 years ago

Any alternatives for iOS?

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anas 2 points 2 years ago

Started using YTLitePlus around a month ago, can recommend

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BombOmOm 2 points 2 years ago

Using youtube with Brave Browser and AdGuard blocks youtube ads on iOS.

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

I really like Grayjay, also on Android. The nice thing is it also supports other sources, so you can watch Odysee, Rumble, Nebula, Peertube and others on it. If the same video is on multiple platforms, it recognizes that and only shows one.

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amorpheus 35 points 2 years ago

The nice thing about hiking your prices by 50% is that unless a whole third of your users quit, you haven't lost anything.

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EddoWagt 19 points 2 years ago

you haven't lost anything

Apart from all future customers that will now choose another service

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GiddyGap 40 points 2 years ago

That's the good thing about a monopoly. You don't have to worry about customers choosing another service.

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CosmoNova 10 points 2 years ago

You don't lose anything for the moment, but it might come back to bite you later regardless. Because Youtube needs to grow until the end of times but can't, it will end ugly one way or another. It's more of a symptom of a bigger problem than an isolated, 'smart' business decision.

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Usernameblankface 31 points 2 years ago

Unless the backlash is a huge percentage of users immediately stop using the service, they won't care. They already calculated how many users they'd lose and how much more profit they get to bring in off of those who decide to stay.

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spicystraw 26 points 2 years ago

Been paying for years now, got a 50% price hike. Canceled on the spot. I like the creators I follow, but recommendations have sucked for me for several months now anyway.

Any advice for streaming ad free on Chromecast or Samsung tv?

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ben_dover 13 points 2 years ago

smarttube on tv

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Kecessa 5 points 2 years ago

Revanced

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Marketsupreme 2 points 2 years ago

Does that work for YouTube on smart TV?

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drivepiler 1 point 2 years ago

Unfortunately not

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Kecessa 1 point 2 years ago

The person I was replying to was mentioning a Chromecast so just get something to cast your cellphone to your TV and you're all set

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Marketsupreme 2 points 2 years ago

Oh I have revanced but it never works when I cast to my smart tv

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J4g2F 2 points 2 years ago

I'm in the same boat as you and never found anything for Samsung tizen os. Smarttube is android based only and anything streamed to a Chromecast still has ads.

Edit: okay I thought let's search one's more. And there is tizentube did not try it yet but seems promising

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spicystraw 1 point 2 years ago

This is just what I was hoping for. Thank you!

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whome 24 points 2 years ago

Yeah they are continuously slowing down Firefox and I see a future where I will simply stop using YouTube.i thank them in advance for when that day comes

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eronth 11 points 2 years ago

More and more I try to find my entertainment elsewhere. I am slowly, but surely, migrating away from youtube (and google in general).

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Psythik 8 points 2 years ago

Do you know of a good free alternative to YouTube? Preferably one with a smarter algorithm that doesn't just feed me the same boring bullshit over and over again?

Yes I like cars, computers, and video game history, YouTube, but I like other things too, you know. I wish there were a way to view other people's YT homepages so that I can find something new to watch.

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Whats_your_reasoning 6 points 2 years ago

My usage of Youtube slowed down considerably when the algorithm stopped giving me anything new. I'd end up asking friends and people on social media about their own favorite videos and channels, just to get something interesting.

Whoever is designing these algorithms seems to be forgetting that our brains crave novelty. If we're not getting it, we're going to feel bored and start looking elsewhere.

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notsorryforpartying 23 points 2 years ago

I've been paying for YouTube premium and have been watching a ton of YouTube for years. But I've been finding myself watching less and less YouTube lately and this might be the push to finally cancel and back away some from the platform.

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selokichtli 23 points 2 years ago

Can't wait to see this bubble burst.

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CosmoNova 22 points 2 years ago

Youtube doing what I told every Premium adversary they would logically do after dumping more and more ad space onto the site. And to make Premium look worth the price, they'll continue to shove more ads in your face just before, you guessed it, doing another price hike. Rinse and repeat. Premium users are strong drivers of this enshittification so I will continue to call them out on it whenever they tell you to join the scam as well. I'll stick to my ad blockers.

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Teils13 22 points 2 years ago

The Peertube protocol developers should develop a central hub webpage space for newcomers, allow accounts there to follow all channels in every instance (and to only follow and block specific instances too), and then develop apps for smart tvs. It's the only realistic FOSS alternative to Youtube i can think of, and i dont know why the first point is still non existent (having already subscribed to several channels in 3 instances using separate accounts).

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TheObviousSolution 20 points 2 years ago

It's so odd that a platform that relies so much on user content charges as much as or more than network streaming services. The market hold is leaking into it (and out).

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tias 6 points 2 years ago

I suspect the user content is the root of the problem. 500 hours of video is being uploaded every minute. YouTube has to transcode and store everything, and be ready to stream it at a moment's notice, even though the vast majority of videos probably get only a handful of views (if any). That's a lot of unused resources that have to be paid for by subscribers and advertisers.

If they were to charge just a little for uploads then content creators would be more inclined to consider whether their upload is of interest to anyone else, and that might take away a lot of the waste.

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darreninthenet 3 points 2 years ago

But then you potentially lose fringe interest videos which the creator makes for fun, only expects a thousand views from people with similar fringe interests and isn't interested in being paid

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

And for that, PeerTube exists. They can also host their own if they want, which works great for things like family videos or instructional videos for niche B2B products.

I'm thinking they would upload occasional videos to YT to advertise the alternative channel.

Even something as small as $1/video/year would be totally reasonable, and that can be waived once you become a partner or whatever. Maybe also make the first 10 videos free or something.

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tias 1 point 2 years ago

Indeed

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 2 points 2 years ago

relies so much on user content

Does it? I mean, it hosts user content but it doesn't really monetize that. YouTube relies on creators, and it pays them.

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sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 2 years ago

Creators are users. I think the OP is saying they rely more on smaller shops than large media orgs, which is opposite from big streaming services. Then again, some YT creators are pretty large.

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 1 point 2 years ago

I feel YT users and creators are separate groups of people.

Tiktok has more overlap.

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oakey66 19 points 2 years ago

You gotta make up for a lack of innovation but just price gouging customers on absolutely everything. I only have Spotify because of the radio function but otherwise all of these services are absolute dog shit. They don’t offer anything new. They’ve just created a new set of moats for features, songs, videos, television and games. Eventually this system has to collapse because treating customers like employees that have no choice but to stay will lead people to innovate on piracy.

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SaharaMaleikuhm 19 points 2 years ago

I just checked and ublock origin is still free. What a relief

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skeezix 1 point 2 years ago

Plop plop fizz fizz.

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drdiddlybadger 19 points 2 years ago

I hadn't realized how high it was until seeing this and canceled mine.

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Mandy 18 points 2 years ago
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Ilovethebomb 6 points 2 years ago

Yup. People will whinge, moan, and pay up. Same with Netflix.

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CosmoNova 0 points 2 years ago

Some of them are even in this thread which is nothing new, but shocking to me every time:

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KingThrillgore 15 points 2 years ago

I'm slowly using YouTube less and less. The experience is worse because of the ads and Premium costs.

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Stalinwolf 14 points 2 years ago

I've been paying $25 CAD to support five family accounts and prevent my daughter from seeing ads during her monitored viewing. If that price goes up 30-50%, I'm fucking done. This was an expense I was willing to incur, as YouTube is literally the only media platform my family even uses anymore. Better price than cable and multiple streaming platforms, and (again) I'm paying that for five active accounts.

If anyone knows of a way for me to adblock through my Roku TV so that we can continue watching YouTube on it without a Premium account, I'm all ears. The TV is the only reason I'm not just using uBlock to begin with. I'm really not into the idea of hooking a laptop up via HDMI if I can avoid it. Just feels like a sloppy user experience for anyone else in the household wanting to watch YouTube on TV.

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ketseki 7 points 2 years ago

Pi-hole, although really you can accomplish network ad blocking with just about any spare computer.

JK refer to the comment below mine

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PoopMonster 17 points 2 years ago

Pihole doesn't block YouTube ads as it's only a dns blocker, Google serves the ads from the same servers as the videos from what I understand. Adguard home works the same.

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JackbyDev 6 points 2 years ago

Correct. I use the AdGuard DNS servers on my router and get less ads on things occasionally but it YouTube. It's been most noticable on Duolingo because now it always plays the Duolingo premium version ad. I'm guessing that it plays that when it fails to fetch a normal ad.

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linearchaos 5 points 2 years ago

You got a scrap Roku and move into a platform that supports one of the ad-free clients but I wouldn't do that just yet. YouTube's about to shove in-stream ads down which is going to break every bit of that blocking for quite a bit It might turn out something else is the way to go by the time the dust settles.

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PoopMonster 4 points 2 years ago

Invidious used to work, it's a self hosted YouTube instance that blockw out ads and has things like sponsorblock. I have Playlet installed on my roku pointing at my instance but about a week or so ago it's been giving only errors 😔.

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arc 14 points 2 years ago

People pay YouTube instead of using an adblocker?

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underthesign 13 points 2 years ago

Please tell me a simple, idiot-proof way to block YT ads on all devices incl. Mobiles, Shield etc. that doesn't require something complex like piHole, works outside the home (family's phones etc. ), and doesn't risk blocking stuff it shouldn't. That's my trouble. Premium solves all of that, while bringing other small benefits. Maybe there's a better way.

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mechoman444 12 points 2 years ago

Easy peasy. Lemon squeezy.

Firefox-ublock (even better on Linux but not required)

Revanced for mobile.

Pihole doesn't stop youtube ads anyhow.

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tabris 2 points 2 years ago

And Smart Tube Next for Android TV devices.

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 1 point 2 years ago

OP just needs to switch to Linux and set up a pihole and teach his entire family to do the same.

Easy peasy.

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Mad_Punda 1 point 2 years ago

I’m in the same boat, but I think this hike still will make me cancel my family plan. Less time on YouTube is probably good anyway.

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TheGalacticVoid 7 points 2 years ago

Creators get way more money with Premium viewers than ad-based ones, or at least it used to be that way.

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samus12345 3 points 2 years ago

I use the PS5 to watch YouTube on the TV, no way around the ads there. But no way in hell I'm paying them!

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Whats_your_reasoning 2 points 2 years ago

Thank goodness for mute buttons.

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tias 13 points 2 years ago

Woah. I just cancelled my subscription last week because it's too expensive, and now they raise the prices further. Guess they really don't want me back.

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skeezix 1 point 2 years ago

They don’t. They probably raised the prices just so you’d quit.

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tias 2 points 2 years ago

I knew it!

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Cringe2793 13 points 2 years ago

Absurd to pay so much just to remove ads only for smart TVs. There are easy ways to block ads on phones and computers.

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Scrollone 8 points 2 years ago

You don't need to pay for smart TVs, if you have an Android TV you can just install SmartTube Next. It's even better than the official app!

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sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 2 years ago

Honestly, every YouTube app alternative I've tried has been better, and my only issue is occasionally streams break, which is due to changes from YT, not the app. Instead of putting effort into making the experience worse elsewhere, why not make the experience on the official app better? Features I really like on other apps:

  • adjust brightness and volume by sliding finger on half of the screen
  • nice offline downloads manager
  • remove unnecessary crap from the app
  • access other content than just YT videos
  • run in background (audio only or picture-in-picture)

Some of those are premium features (why?), and others just don't exist in the YT app. If the experience was better and the price was reasonable, I'd probably pay. But it's not, so I use alternatives.

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Cringe2793 1 point 2 years ago

I'd love to, but I'm using a Samsung freestyle 2 projector, and from what I've researched, it doesnt let me install random apks 😭

Bad decision on my part, but I thought a projector would be cool haha

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linearchaos 6 points 2 years ago

This is just the pregame for unblockable ads.

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Starbuncle 8 points 2 years ago
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gwilikers 12 points 2 years ago

Revanced.

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Mubelotix 6 points 2 years ago

Grayjay

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disconnectikacio 9 points 2 years ago

Use Smarttube instead on android tv and stbs Smarttube

For android phones, tablets: Tubular

In browser ublock blocks youtube ads, also invidious instances.

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Zementid 1 point 2 years ago

Thanks for the Info. Tubular APK can be downloaded directly from Git and so far seems legit and performance. Very Nice! :]

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capital 9 points 2 years ago

If history is any indication, they will complain and no significant number of them will cancel.

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LordWiggle 8 points 2 years ago

And that, kids, is why you should pirate. Paying customers are restricted and being ripped off. Piracy gives freedom, it pays off, it makes sure you dont have to agree to stupid user agreements which take away you rights. Make sure to support your favorite creators though, through other platforms like Patreon. Don't take the money away from them. Just take away the power and control away from the evil mega corps like Google and Meta.

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point 2 years ago

You don't even need to pirate, just use an ad blocker and support your creators directly. My perspective is that, unless you agree to their TOS, it's on them to prevent any activity that's unprofitable to them, and so far, uBlock Origin on Firefox works fine on YouTube directly.

Take what you would've spent on YouTube premium at a more reasonable price and send that to the creators you follow.

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LordWiggle 3 points 2 years ago

Just Vivaldi browser works too. On your phone I recommend grayjay.app

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penquin 8 points 2 years ago
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user1234 8 points 2 years ago

I thought YouTube Premium was like WinRAR. Nobody actually pays for it.

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NewAgeOldPerson 2 points 2 years ago

I thought I was the only one. But turns out, there are dozens of us!

Really though. Just ran a Google search. Take it with a grain of salt. 100 million subs worldwide. So it's not huge. But doesn't feel small either.

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orl0pl 7 points 2 years ago

Line must go 🆙

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n3cr0 7 points 2 years ago

Only up to 50%? I would much appreciate 100%. That would make users rethink their subscription.

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Annoyed_Crabby 6 points 2 years ago

Paying for service? Why those savages!

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Magnolia_ 7 points 2 years ago

feel sorry for MFs who dont know Revanced

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BeliefPropagator 7 points 2 years ago

Probably the ones that do subscribe are much less price sensitive.

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leanleft 6 points 2 years ago

maybe its time people redirect their money to supporting peertube

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Mwa 6 points 2 years ago

Prob a reason to leave youtube

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tigerjerusalem 5 points 2 years ago

I would love a solution for Samsung TVs, it's the only reason I pay for Premium.

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Captainvaqina 9 points 2 years ago

Just spend $20 on an onn box from Walmart + smarttube.

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SadSadSatellite 2 points 2 years ago

I don't know about samsungs, but Sony and any android or Google TV is a breeze to hack. Vizio and lg are a pain in the ass but they can be done, so I would assume someone smarter than me has figured it out and posted a tutorial

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corvi 1 point 2 years ago

Same, but nvidia shield. I’ve tried pihole and pf-blocker with no success.

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Captainvaqina 3 points 2 years ago

Smarttube

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Summzashi 1 point 2 years ago

You went through the hassle of setting up a pi hole and in the entire process you didn't figure out that doesn't work on YouTube?

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sp3tr4l 5 points 2 years ago

The AdBlockalypse.

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SocialMediaRefugee 5 points 2 years ago

Streaming in general is approaching the old cable prices. Once you've subscribed to the fractured marketplace to find the shows you want you are spending far more than you expected.

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dulce_3t_decorum_3st 4 points 2 years ago

I've been paying $5pm for family premium for years.

It couldn't last forever, I guess.

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Lettuceeatlettuce 2 points 2 years ago

There's the enshitification we know and love! Freetube for desktop and Tubular for mobile is how I've been watching YT for over a year now, and it's great!

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chemicalprophet 2 points 2 years ago

Out here on the high seas we have no gods and no masters.

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zlatiah 2 points 2 years ago

I sure hope their recent heavy prosecution of the Invidious project isn't related

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neidu2 2 points 2 years ago

ReVanced ❤️

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Static_Rocket 2 points 2 years ago

Was actually considering buying premium now that I use YouTube for music more than Spotify, but then the ad stuff happened and now this. Going to avoid it out of principle now.

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bitfscker 2 points 2 years ago

You might want to check out "Spotube"! Awesome combo of Spotify and YouTube.

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Static_Rocket 1 point 2 years ago

I'm currently use RiMusic, but I wish something would automatically sort through my ListenBrainz recommendations

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pufferfisherpowder 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah I'm affected but will probably keep my subscription. Spotify has a shitty track record as well and the price difference is still worth it to enjoy ad free YouTube on the TV. I feel like it's still a good value to be honest. But it also does suck to get squeezed.

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werefreeatlast 2 points 2 years ago

The "black tape project" videos are all available for free guys!

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FatTony 1 point 2 years ago
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JohnOliver 1 point 2 years ago

Must be 50-60 people right? Who pays for premium??

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figaro 17 points 2 years ago

YouTube is the only streaming platform I pay for. I don't want to bother with 3rd party apps, and I use it every day. Plus I get YouTube music out of it, so I don't need to pay for Spotify. Overall 7/10 it's fine.

No judgements toward people who don't want to pay though, I get it.

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NewAgeOldPerson 2 points 2 years ago

Pretty much same. I do get a "free" premium account with Google Fi. But since I'm paying for family already, that just sits there. But still, 5 bucks per family member per month for music and YouTube ad free, I can't argue. It works for me.

I would reconsider things if price went up 50% though. Nothing is irreplaceable.

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localhost443 2 points 2 years ago

I bailed because the YTM algorithm is terrible compared to when it was Google music. It had got progressively worse and I really realised how bad it was when I subbed to Deezer for a trial. If they hadn't trashed Google music by integrating it into YouTube I'd still be paying for premium if it came with both. Can't imagine I'll ever pay for it again now.

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slumberlust 1 point 2 years ago

You may be remembering through rose tinted glasses here. YTM has it's issue but so did GPM...neither I would describe as good products.

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TORFdot0 2 points 2 years ago

If you have kids that watch on devices that can’t easily block ads like TVs or game consoles, it’s worth every penny.

YouTube ads are full of scams and smut and all sorts of other things I don’t want my kids exposed too

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JohnOliver 1 point 2 years ago

I understand. It's just that even the videos themselves have ads and are loaded with product placement and paid content, not to mention the low quality of most videos. I am just surprised that people actually do pay for it, instead of finding something else to do.

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Michal 2 points 2 years ago

It's unusable without ads, so if you watch a lot of YouTube it's worth to pay.

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JohnOliver 4 points 2 years ago

I know, it is the reason why I don't watch YouTube. I am just surprised that their tactic of gradually increasing the amount and duration of ads, worked!

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desconectado 1 point 2 years ago

I use it mostly for YouTube music (which costs almost the same as Spotify), no ads on YouTube is a nice bonus.

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sukotai 1 point 2 years ago

hey... Mister youtube. ... We are not americans, just poor europeans ! 😭

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umami_wasbi 1 point 2 years ago

Africans: ?

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thanks for using Leebra!

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