French immigrants are eating our pets!
French immigrants are eating our pets!
There's a sort of... Sheen, to a lot AI images. Obviously you can prompt this away if you know what you're doing, but its developing a bit of a look to my eye when people don't do that.
I mean, it could be a manual photoshop job.
It could, but the double spiral in the shell indicates AI to me. Snail shells don't grow like that. If it was a manual job, they would have used a picture of a real shell.
Edit: plus the cat head looks weird where it connects to the head, and the markings don't look right to me.
Snail shells don't grow like that but this is clearly a snat, not a snail.
Also the fact that the grain on the side of the shell is perpendicular to the grain on the top, and it changes where the cat ear comes up in front of it.
Very telltale sign of AI is a change of pattern in something when a foreground object splits it.
Not saying it's always a guarantee, but it's a common quirk and it's pretty easy to identify.
They made fake pictures before computers existed too.
I mean, optical illusions have been used to fool audiences for years.
This is a motion picture of course but the idea is "faking" an image isn't too far off.
I've seen the cave paintings deer and horses everywhere but when I look around nothing but rocks and trees.
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That's a song by the police, right?
Ignorant Americans, never even heard of the common snailcat
Where the fuck are you from that they aren’t called catsnails? Odd. Been catsnails here since I can remember.
I have two of those cats. I still can't catch them when its time to go to bed.
No spooky eyes, no extra limbs, no eery smile? - 100% real, genuine photograph! 👍
It's a snat. They are not easy to catch, because they are fast. Also, they never land on their shell.
cute snat...
Are we all looking at the same snussy?
We get them a lot around here. They don't make for good pets, but they keep the borogoves at bay.
Its an "AI generated image at snail" :3
Detection for snail is positive.
I wanted to get a cat but I discovered I was allergic to the slime trail.
Chat is the picture real?
Clearly AI is on the verge of taking over the world.
My guess is the AI was trained on a combination of cat videos and sponge bob.
That is a weird looking rabbit

honestly, its pretty good, and it still works if I use a lower resolution screenshot without metadata (I haven't tried adding noise, or overlaying something else but those might break it). This is pixelwave, not midjourney though.
Not unclear as a whistle.
There are a bunch of reasons why this could happen. First, it's possible to "attack" some simpler image classification models; if you get a large enough sample of their outputs, you can mathematically derive a way to process any image such that it won't be correctly identified. There have also been reports that even simpler processing, such as blending a real photo of a wall with a synthetic image at very low percent, can trip up detectors that haven't been trained to be more discerning. But it's all in how you construct the training dataset, and I don't think any of this is a good enough reason to give up on using machine learning for synthetic media detection in general; in fact this example gives me the idea of using autogenerated captions as an additional input to the classification model. The challenge there, as in general, is trying to keep such a model from assuming that all anime is synthetic, since "AI artists" seem to be overly focused on anime and related styles...
Honestly, they should fight fire with fire? Another vision model (like Qwen VL) would catch this
You can ask it "does this image seem fake?" and it would look at it, reason something out and conclude it's fake, instead of... I dunno, looking for smaller patters or whatever their internal model does?
Isn't there a whole thing about if you average out colors on AI generated photos you get a uniform beige grey toned color? As the brightness is usually about 50/50 from the original noise map. (Added in for the people who I confused with colors)
I don't get why these tools don't just do that but I guess you got to keep the marketing up of using AI to find a solution.
Either that’s not true of AI images or it’s true of all images. There aren’t answers that simple to this. Pixels are pixels.
Just saying that because you feel like it's true or because you've participated in that line of thought for even 5 seconds?
AI images come from a noise map, it's true cause they generate from it in a consistent manner.
I'm saying it because it's not only obvious with even a moments thought (you can literally just ask it for an entirely red image or whatever), but also because it's easily provable.
Prompt: "Under the sea"
Image:

Average pixel colour:

Prompt: "a man with red hair wearing a red coat standing in front of a red background"
Image:

Average pixel colour:

So I ask you the same question. Did you just say that because you felt like it was true?
What? That's some extreme logic.
First of all why would it be true of all images? Real photos would have variance of contrast and color in different ways.
These guys literally point out average colors and contrast in AI images
Instead of engaging the conversation you just say pixels are pixels? Like that means something smart?
My point is that AI images don’t differ significantly enough from non-AI images. “AI images” is an extremely broad category.
If you are narrowing that category to, say, “all Dall-E images” or “all Midjourney images” or something, MAYBE. They tend to have a certain “look.” But even that strikes me as unlikely, and those are just a slice of the “AI images” pie.
As someone who has played around with Stable Diffusion and Flux, the “average color” of an image can vary dramatically based on what settings and models you’re running. AI can create remarkably real-looking images with proper variance in color and contrast, because it’s trained on real photos. Pixels, as I said, are pixels.
That’s not to mention anime or sketch or stained glass or any other medium imitation. And of course, image-to-image with in-painting, where only parts of an image are handled by the AI.
My point is that if there were overtly simple answers like, “all AI images average their color to a beige,” then there wouldn’t be all this worry about AI images. It would be easy to detect them. But things aren’t that simple, and if you spend a small amount of time looking into the depth that generating AI images has gained even in the last year, you’d realize how absurd a simple answer like that is.
So because you "make" AI generated images you are saying that they are magical and don't follow the rules of their generation?
They are based on noise maps and inferred forwards from there. They leave a history in the pixels it's how lots of people are detecting them.
Just because it's trained on real photos does not mean it's still a real photo. Just cause it looks fine doesn't mean there isn't stuff true beneath it.
In the video I linked they even talk about how the red blue green maps have the same values cause it started with a colorless pixel anyways. A real sensor doesn't do that.
I worked with photographers and in Photoshop and did what you think you are doing. Working with images and pixels are not just pixels. That means nothing. Dogs are just dogs. There are still different breeds and types of dogs.
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