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henfredemars 117 points 2 years ago

Canada has a functioning government. Sign me up!

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BlackSheep 38 points 2 years ago

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Nikophos 13 points 2 years ago

Just to add, for anyone curious: Canadian healthcare is provincial, not federal, so your mileage may vary depending on which province you live in.

One of the "Canadian officials" recently quoted in American news for threatening to withhold electricity is Doug Ford, the Conservative Premier (i.e. the "Senator") of Ontario. While many Canadians have supported his response to Trump's tariffs, he's been dismantling Ontario's public healthcare by withholding public funding, so he can set up a two-tiered private/public system. He's also had a fair number of scandals. And was just comfortably re-elected :^)

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BlackSheep 4 points 2 years ago

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Nikophos 3 points 2 years ago

Oh gosh, glad to hear things are somewhat better over there, healthcare-wise. I hope your recovery went/is going well!

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Mossheart 2 points 2 years ago

While I have love for Ford, he's more akin to Governor than Senator.

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Nikophos 1 point 2 years ago

Whoops! That's the word I was looking for :^) thanks

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dubyakay 2 points 2 years ago

6-18 months, depending on the province, with both extremes being elective, not mandated.

5-9 weeks for the dad too, also depending on province and elective.

Edit: also subsidized daycare in Quebec (180/mo is peanuts) with further subsidies for low income families. There's also a federal subsidy, but adoption has been slow by for profits.

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BlackSheep 1 point 2 years ago

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anomnom 3 points 2 years ago

It’s gotta be way more than 1/5 in VT. Half the houses have combo Canadian/US flags hanging. And have for years. They’re in danger of having a different meaning now though I fear.

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Rentlar 54 points 2 years ago

It would be amazing if we could have Washington and Oregon in Canada... :)

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samus12345 33 points 2 years ago

And California, make a land bridge between Canada and Mexico! Plus Canada would jump from 9th largest GDP in the world to 3rd largest!

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RowRowRowYourBot -21 points 2 years ago

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Kecessa 16 points 2 years ago

Colorado is blue so it's coming along!

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RowRowRowYourBot -10 points 2 years ago

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spidermanchild 11 points 2 years ago

You do realize California residents and companies pay more taxes to the federal government than they receive back, right? Pretty sure they can easily fund their own education with some of that money.

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RowRowRowYourBot -8 points 2 years ago

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BlackSheep 7 points 2 years ago

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Lucidlethargy 3 points 2 years ago

We could also reinvest federal tax money into desalination and renewable energy to power it.

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RowRowRowYourBot -4 points 2 years ago

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Vent 40 points 2 years ago

Hell, I'll vote for my state to join just about any country with a functioning healthcare system.

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SurpriZe 1 point 2 years ago

Such as?..

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Vent 8 points 2 years ago

Canada, for one.

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Mossheart 1 point 2 years ago

Well, I suppose relative to American health care it is.

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jjjalljs 33 points 2 years ago

I don't believe canada is perfect but the US is really fucking bad, so it would probably be an improvement.

Though enemies of the US would probably be cackling at it dissolving. US conservatives really are a heady cocktail of traitors and absolute fucking idiots.

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Kecessa 28 points 2 years ago

Red States could finally achieve their dream of being third world countries 🥰

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P1k1e 6 points 2 years ago

Rather than third world states?

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Kecessa 9 points 2 years ago

Oh without blue states to help them they still have a long way to go to reach the point where they should be considering their political decisions.

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NigelFrobisher 2 points 2 years ago

If the USA leaves NATO it technically becomes a Third-World Country. Enjoy!

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Kecessa 2 points 2 years ago

NATO membership isn't a requirement to be a developed country though

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uienia 1 point 2 years ago

Putin is laughing his head off at how easy it was to dismantle the US. It was already so rotten a bit of poking the right places was all it took.

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Randomocity 26 points 2 years ago

The way they word the contrast between Canadians and Americans is extremely biased."9 percent of Canadians believe they will become the 51st state", not that they want to, just that they believe it will happen. While "30 percent of Americans would like their state to become part of Canada". If you asked the Canadians if they want to become US state I guarantee it would be lower

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Arigion 7 points 2 years ago

What would have been interesting: How many Canadians would like an American state to become part of Canada?

I wouldn't want any of them to join my country.

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LoganNineFingers 7 points 2 years ago

As a Prairie guy, I'd love to have MN join us

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Manalith 2 points 2 years ago

As a Minnesotan, yeah alright

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Lemminary 4 points 2 years ago

Look on the bright side, you'd probably get the northern states like Vermont. 😀

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Arigion 4 points 2 years ago

I'm not Canadian, I'm European. I just would find it interesting to know, since I was told that Canada overall resembles more Europe than the USA.

The political left in the U.S. often aligns more closely with the center or even the moderate right in European countries, due to America's overall more conservative political spectrum.

So they would get an influx of center to far-right citizens. Can't think why one would want this.

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BlackSheep 5 points 2 years ago

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obvs 2 points 2 years ago

The political left in the U.S. often aligns more closely with the center or even the moderate right in European countries, due to America’s overall more conservative political spectrum.

That's a misconception. The political parties are owned by the same billionaires, and they never allow farther left candidates to be nominated.

The politicians themselfs are right-leaning. That doesn't mean the people actually are. There is huge support for left-leaning policies in the United States, but the people in the U.S. have effectively no ability to get policy passed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&t=1&v=5tu32CCA_Ig

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Formfiller 1 point 2 years ago

The right wing citizens can get excommunicated into Trumpland

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LotzaSpaghetti 0 points 2 years ago

I’ll try be polite for conversation’s sake but my thoughts are: I truly wish these USAers would fix their country rather than opine about trying to join my nation which has quite a different outlook on life and noted cultural differences and expectations for it’s citizens.

Personally, I don’t want any of these supposedly “blue” states to join confederation honestly due to incongruent ideals and perspectives.

They should focus on working to solve their issues instead of trying to jump ship (which feels like “kicking the can down the road” because let’s be honest, in what world would the governing “party” of the USA actually allow that to happen peacefully or without retribution).

Sorry if this was came across curt/rude but my messaging is: fix your shit.

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courageousstep 2 points 2 years ago

I thought this was weird (insidious?) as well.

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n2burns 1 point 2 years ago

If you asked the Canadians if they want to become US state I guarantee it would be lower

Any of the polls I've seen put it 13-20%.

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Randomocity 1 point 2 years ago

Would you mind sharing those polls? I haven't seen any that high

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n2burns 1 point 2 years ago

https://archive.is/UEsWZ

https://www.cbc.ca/...

https://leger360.com/canada-51st-state/

EDIT: I can't find the one that said 20%. It was on a Lemmy post a few weeks back. However, it said 80% were strongly opposed, and didn't break down the other responses. The article just assumed the other responses weren't opposed.

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Randomocity 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you for the links! There's definitely some variability in how the questions are asked, and obviously polling bias (though those could go either way), but this is still way higher than any of the polls I had seen. I appreciate you taking the time to find them for me.

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davesmith 25 points 2 years ago

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Amonverite 17 points 2 years ago

Canadian Province of Oregon has a very nice ring to it!

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Phoenicianpirate 7 points 2 years ago

And Washington! Also all of New England!

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allo 15 points 2 years ago

On behalf of Washington State I accept this offer.

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Amonverite 4 points 2 years ago

Oregon also!

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aeshna_cyanea 2 points 2 years ago

Perhaps we can organize a referendum

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MITM0 13 points 2 years ago

I have a better idea, Make Alaska a part of Canada

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 7 points 2 years ago

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MITM0 1 point 2 years ago

Why not all

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 2 points 2 years ago

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MITM0 3 points 2 years ago

Then just kick them out, give them a tastebof their own medicine

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DarkDarkHouse 3 points 2 years ago

I knew Americans were treating Canada badly, but that's crossing a line

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huppakee 12 points 2 years ago

Canada please decline this offer until a sane generation is old enough to vote, the current ones are broken

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GeekFTW 10 points 2 years ago

Oh don't worry 99% of us have been seeing the online requests and cackling at the sheer fucking hubris lmao

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Deceptichum 11 points 2 years ago

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Rooskie91 10 points 2 years ago

Obligatory Jesusland Map.

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chonglibloodsport 9 points 2 years ago

If all the nice Americans leave to join us, what happens with the rest? They’re gonna attack us!

If you’re a nice American and want to join us, bring fighter jets and nuclear weapons and stuff with you please!

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TwinTitans 3 points 2 years ago

Canada could have nuclear weapons within 6 months if they needed.

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Formfiller 8 points 2 years ago

California for succession! But all BS aside I feel like the US is going to have a civil war over all of this because over half of us don’t want to live in stupid tecno patriarcal oligarch dipshitville with a deranged game show host frontman

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The_Caretaker 6 points 2 years ago

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HubertManne 5 points 2 years ago

Bet its even higher for some states.

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Etterra 5 points 2 years ago

I'd sign up for it. Illinois isn't too far from Canada, and I'd live to see how the US gets by without Chicago. Good luck rerouting all your freight to avoid border crossings lol. Sigh. It'd never happen in a million years though.

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NocturnalMorning 5 points 2 years ago

This is almost as stupid as making Canada the 51st state.

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Fermion 1 point 2 years ago

Seriously, we shouldn't be feeding any annexation narratives.

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jagged_circle 4 points 2 years ago

I guess Oklahoma and Texas are driving that number down?

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Poop 4 points 2 years ago

Nah, we're good.

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GreenCavalier 2 points 2 years ago

No, thank you. Stay home, please, and fix your problems.

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InvertedParallax 3 points 2 years ago

Our problems are and have been for 160 years one thing: The South.

Leaving them behind is fixing them.

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obvs 2 points 2 years ago

You overestimate the U.S. citizens' ability to influence the U.S. Government. It is not a democracy and has not been at least for my whole life. People in the U.S. have effectively no control over laws that get passed.

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Spicy_Canada_Dry 2 points 2 years ago

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Kowowow 1 point 2 years ago

You guys can't join till either trump is gone or we get some form of defence pact(noncompliance whatever) from individual states

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Montreal_Metro 1 point 2 years ago

When shit hits the fan, just fight on our side (PS: Bring your national guard assets with you too, so they can fight on our side against the Nazis, thanks!).

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DarkDecay 0 points 2 years ago

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Raiderkev 0 points 2 years ago

🙋‍♂️

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Aeao -2 points 2 years ago

Might be a long shot but id accept that in Florida. It would make maps hard but it would be worth it. Disney would be on board. They a pretty six of the repubs after the bullshit the last gov pulled

Was funny tho. Gov insisted on a meeting and a vote about what Disney could and couldnt do on their property. Only Disney showed up to vote.

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reddig33 8 points 2 years ago

You’re living in a fantasy world if you think Florida wants to join Canada. Florida has gotten redder and redder in the past few years. Disney could simply up and leave anytime if they wanted to.

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Aeao 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah just pack up the Castle. Certain areas of Florida are getting reder.

There's a joke in Florida "where should I visit, where are the cultural scenes, good museums, nice clubs" and we pull up an election map and point at the blue.

As for Disney they can't "move" they would just stop funding that park until it died. There's no moving it.

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johncandy1812 -2 points 2 years ago

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