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Sunny 317 points a year ago

Leaving this completely unrelated link to a better alternative here: https://jellyfin.org/

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Saik0Shinigami 131 points a year ago

Leaving this for people to realize that there's a literal chapter's worth of book of security issues that haven't been fixed and seems to keep getting the can kicked down the road... for over 4 years now.

https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415

I love Jellyfin... people need to implement it sensibly knowing the potential risks.

Edit: Ah yes! I MUST be a shill for saying "Implement it sensibly".

Here, let me "de-shill" myself.

You have several options to make Jellyfin serviceable to users outside of your literal LAN network.

setup a VPN. Pray you don't have a user on a device that doesn't have a VPN app that you can work with.
setup whitelisting on your server. Pray that IP addresses don't change.
setup fail2ban or crowdsec. Pray that you users don't piss off either by doing user things and getting locked out.

If anything above fails... you're likely on the hook for support. Hope you plan for that!

Obfuscate your paths (change /movies/title (year)/title.ext to something like /9ZHBrvNH4dKQDYFa2parH32qqSFpjsWTataVkjy4NqPxpVktT55PkEee5YSVRvUQ/movies/title (year)/title.ext). MD5 is now much harder to generate/guess... pray that there isn't some other vulnerability. Gotta go back and reconfigure and organize your shit. Oh and make sure that your docker mounts aren't crushing the path!

Am I still a Plex shill? BTW I run Jellyfin AND Plex. Literally side by side. Different uses for different cases because Jellyfin just can't compete with Plex for sharing with dumb-ass relatives.

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oshu 132 points a year ago

If your use case is to have a nice media sever at home and while traveling (via tailscale or similar) without exposing your private data, Jellyfin is great.

If your use case is running a pirate tv service for other people, then you probably want something else.

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Saik0Shinigami 40 points a year ago

If you're support ANYONE other than yourself who isn't technical, it's a hurdle. And likely a significant one.

I would not be able to educate my wife properly on the times when she would need to enable wireguard on her phone to use it properly (and when to disable it for other scenarios).

This has nothing to do with running a pirate service.

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LandedGentry 38 points a year ago

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asbestos 12 points a year ago

Setup a wireguard client so it’s always connected but is used only for a certain IP (the address of your server). If you’re interested, I can help you with that.

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Getting6409 7 points a year ago

I think they're meaning exposing it to the public for the pirate tv use case. In my personal experience (1 non savvy user using the roku app, no vpn), it's not much support. I had to talk them through initial sign on, and through re-sign-on after that latest update that forced it. Of course ymmv, but two 5 minute tech sessions with grandma over 2 years of consistent usage ain't that bad.

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oshu 5 points a year ago

My wife has no problem starting the tailscale app and then starting the jelkyfin app. Its really that simple.

She also uses the tailscale exit node I run whenever she is on a public wifi. Its really a well designed simple to use app.

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stupidcasey 38 points a year ago

Me wondering how many security issues the completely proprietary Plex has that they won't tell us about.

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possiblylinux127 18 points a year ago

Honestly this is something that needs to talked about more. I frequently see people roasting on foss but in reality the proprietary vendors have all sorts of dumb security issues.

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MaggiWuerze 6 points a year ago

The difference being, that the Plex devs weren't confronted with a list of security issues and basically shrugged and dragged their feet for 5 years

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Saik0Shinigami 8 points a year ago

Fair concern... But I can tell you unauthenticated endpoints aren't one. I haven't tested any others personally.

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LainTrain 12 points a year ago

Unauthenticated endpoints aren't one as far as you can tell.

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Darkassassin07 24 points a year ago

Without authentication; it's possible to randomly generate UUIDs and use them to retrieve media from a jellyfin server. That's about the only actually concerning issue on that list, and it's incredibly minor IMO.

With authentication, users (ie, the people you have trusted to access your server) can potentially attack each other, by changing each others settings and viewing each other's watch history/favorites/etc.

That's it. These issues aren't even worth talking about for 99.9% of jellyfin users.

Should they be fixed? Sure, eventually. But these issues aren't cause to yell about how insecure jellyfin is in every single conversation, and to go trying to scare everyone off of hosting it publicly. Stop spreading FUD.

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Saik0Shinigami 4 points a year ago

It's not FUD if it's real. I could say the same shit for people screaming Jellyfin at literally every chance they get when the topic is Plex. Instead I further the discussion rather than telling other people they're spreading FUD.

it’s possible to randomly generate UUIDs

It's an MD5 hash of the file path. Not randomly generated, and not a proper UUID.

Edit: for others that might not understand... Docker files will standardized the path side... *arr suites and general human nature will standardize the file name.

So a generally guessable file path exists for a LOT of users out there... It's absolutely possible to guess that many people running jellyfin would store their version of bigbucksbunny as /movies/bigbuckbunny (2008)/bigbuckbunny.mkv or similar conventions and I've probably already nailed the path to generate the MD5 for a lot of people running Jellyfin just now.

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possiblylinux127 2 points a year ago

You shouldn't expose it publicly

There are better ways to do things in 2025

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DigDoug 21 points a year ago

Imagine downvoting "Be careful what you expose to the internet". I thought I'd got away from Reddit.

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Appoxo 11 points a year ago

The core message is (to me) fine.
What I kind of dislike is the delivery.

Btw: Can someone tell me why he path-guessing is so dangerous?
I don't care if someone can guess the path for the.rise.of.the.linux.ISO.720p.DD.H264.mp4 and wants to download it.
Not like any damage or (interactive) intrusion was made into my network

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Saik0Shinigami 7 points a year ago

Btw: Can someone tell me why he path-guessing is so dangerous?

Cause organizations like Sony have already done things like installed rootkits on people's computer. Now imagine they realize this is a flaw in some media setups the their legal departments start actioning on it. (generate a rainbow table of common names for files, and common paths used in linux/docker containers... running 10000 http requests on a server over a few minutes is child's play)

All it takes it one thing to parse on a list that never had a physical release and now your whole server will be subject to discovery at the court case.

If you have literally no illegal content on your server, no problem... other than that you'll be on the hook to provide proof of rights to have the content... and possibly at worst rights to distribute (they accessed it without authentication, so literally anyone else could have too).

Edit: Oh but hold on! I hear you say that it would be illegal for them to scan your computer like that...

Except it isn't. There's no law that says you can't try to navigate to a URL. There are laws that say that you can't bypass attempts to authenticate/protect content... but remember the endpoint isn't behind authentication.

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idriss 2 points a year ago

Did you read them? somebody is spreading fear for no reason. It almost feels like they want people to use something else.

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Saik0Shinigami -3 points a year ago

I'm betting most of it is because some terminally online folks here have seen me post similar things before (the last time was like a month ago though... so I dunno)... So they think I'm some misinformation campaign or something. I don't know. Anywhere I go on the internet it seems I trigger people by pointing out obvious things regularly. I just accept that society is fucked at this point.

Edit: Yup, went and doublechecked. Last post I posted about plex in was 1 month and 5 days ago... https://lemmy.ml/post/28376589

The before that... https://beehaw.org/post/19228632
https://beehaw.org/post/19211350

All over a month ago... So I guess I must be a super shill to not even talk about plex for a whole month! I hope they don't cancel my checks.

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AwesomeLowlander 4 points a year ago

That's based on the assumption that's your only account, though. Not that I'm calling you a shill, just pointing out the obvious flaw in your logic. Any actual shill would have sockpuppets to spread out their comments and hide their history.

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FreedomAdvocate 4 points a year ago

This is why when people say that FOSS is more secure than closed source I always laugh. Those people seem to think that because it’s open source that not only has it been reviewed in depth by security experts who know every single possible vulnerability, but that they found every vulnerability, fixed them, put in PRs that were then approved by the creator, who then made a new release with those fixes……. every time a new potential vulnerability is discovered in the libraries etc that it’s using.

Often it just leads to situations like this - known big vulnerabilities that are just never fixed.

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Saik0Shinigami 12 points a year ago

It cuts both ways... Closed source things can be hiding shit... or simply never testing/caring about it... Oftentimes a truly interested person can externally test it and find the flaw anyway... but not always.

Where open source can have a lot of people who care about it... but never have the manpower to fix it.

The best open source projects are the one that have closed source backing it seems. I've had my company throw in resources into open source projects before because we used them.

But jellyfin and the likes would be hard to get backing for

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ipkpjersi 2 points a year ago

FOSS isn't always more secure than closed-source, but it absolutely can be.

It depends on the priorities of the maintainers. It seems like Jellyfin's maintainers might not be putting a huge emphasis on security, which is very disappointing, but they are volunteers at the end of the day.

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Robust_Mirror -1 points a year ago

My assumption isn't that they're all fixed, it's that any particularly bad ones would be known about so I know to avoid it or not. Which appears to be the case.

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LainTrain 2 points a year ago

Honestly it's news to me but having read through those most of them are not an issue.

setup a VPN. Pray you don't have a user on a device that doesn't have a VPN app that you can work with.

Dafuck kind of a nitpick is this? In what world does OpenVPN not have an application for every device and OS combo out there fully supported? You tryna watch it on a VCR or smth?

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Saik0Shinigami 7 points a year ago

LG tvs and rokus I know for a fact don't have vpn apps available. And I'm sure there are plenty more.

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Stowaway 3 points a year ago

Neither do Samsung, the jellyfin app works great on Samsung after the annoying process of installing it, but can't put a VPN on it that I'm aware of.

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possiblylinux127 -1 points a year ago

Products like Netbird and Tailscale have the ability to act as an ingress node on the network.

Alternatively you could setup Wireguard and a simple http proxy like Caddy. Just give your relatives a box to plug into Ethernet. You could even use it as a backup target.

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Onomatopoeia 1 point a year ago

For people who can't or don't want to run a VPN app, Tailscale has the Funnel feature, which can... Funnel traffic into your Tailscale net.

I've only used it for light stuff so not sure how well it will work for video.

There are other Mesh VPN solutions out there - I've used Hamachi for close to 20 years on Windows, and it just works. There's a Linux client too, though I haven't worked with it in years.

Alternatively, you can setup a Raspberry Pi just for the Tailscale/Wireguard VPN, for say at your parents/friends houses. Cheap, simple solution, and it'll handle DNS for the devices in the Tailscale mesh. This is something I'm doing for family/friends for unrelated/slightly related reasons (I'm reproducing the Backup to Friends feature that Crashplan used to have, so all of us can have multiple backups in our own "cloud") , but they'll get the side benefit of video, which won't get backed up, just duplicated everywhere.

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Saik0Shinigami 1 point a year ago

Don't you need to set a static route in your router for that to work?

Hamachi definitely doesn't work on TVs...

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swearengen 1 point a year ago

This past week I switched my server to Jellyfin and migrated all my users over to it after I just happened across a thread a month ago about Plex charging for remote streaming on the 29th of April.

I never got an email from Plex about the change until April 29th... Scummy behaviour and I'm sure a lot of users and server owners bought their product in a panic as a result.

So far Jellyfin works perfectly, all my users are on Rokus and the app works perfectly on there.

Plex will only continue to get worse so I'm glad I made the jump.

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Saik0Shinigami -1 points a year ago

So far Jellyfin works perfectly, all my users are on Rokus and the app works perfectly on there.

Considering that Roku doesn't have a VPN option... Then I hope you've at least obfuscated your media paths so it's not easily guessable on the complete unauthenticated endpoints for people to abuse/probe your server.

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swearengen 1 point a year ago

I keep an eye on my server and trust issues will be fixed in time as more and more users dump Plex.

Who knows what security issues Plex had and I ran that without issue. At least Jellyfin's aren't hidden.

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Kusimulkku -1 points a year ago

If anything above fails... you're likely on the hook for support. Hope you plan for that!

It's a self-hosted service so... Duh?

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catloaf -11 points a year ago

Not that they're really an issue unless you are exposing your server to untrusted clients. You shouldn't be putting your servers on the Internet anyway, use a VPN.

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Saik0Shinigami 14 points a year ago

use a VPN

No VPN apps for TVs. You know, the most likely thing older people would want to use to access your server to watch movies with.

Edit:

Not that they’re really an issue unless you are exposing your server to untrusted clients.

And the fact that many endpoints are completely unauthed...

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Lyra_Lycan 8 points a year ago

My router (more accurately its software) has VPN support, using it for the whole network. You might be able to find one

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ricecake -2 points a year ago

Depending on their router and how much IT labor you care to do for these people you can actually configure a site to site VPN tunnel. All traffic for a particular address range will get routed through the VPN automatically.

It used to be a high end feature but it's made it's way into general routers since it doesn't really require many resources and it lets you label it as having more home office features.

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wreckedcarzz 12 points a year ago

I see this so often and nobody ever seems to realize that local/home VPNs use upload bandwidth, which for some is in dire low supply. I can't have 4 full-time users using my upload connection routing through wireguard, when all 4 stream videos throughout the day. And that's just 3rd party services like YouTube and Twitch, not plex. Then you add in two additional, off-site users who want to watch something with me on plex, and we are all given ~1.5 megabits a piece of a 10meg upload pipe over here. Mmmm, crispy pixels. 'you can just use some IPs in wg so you don't need to tunnel all data, just what you need', they say, and I rebuke by showing them my dynamic IP address. 'ask for a static one' and they haven't offered that for years besides enterprise customers.

And that's before I ask everyone 'so everyone download wireguard and scan your individual qr code, or I will send you the config file' and everyone but a single user just hears the ocean. Then I need to teach them about VPNs, why we use it, why plex doesn't work when the little lock isn't showing on their phones, why 'I had the lock in the corner but I couldn't make a call or get online, so we are all getting [thing you don't like] for dinner since I couldn't ask'. Then I have to troubleshoot and tell them to toggle it off and on again...

The we get to the bit where they try to cast to the TV, and the chromecast is like 'lol wtf is a VPN' and we are back at square one, everyone hates me, I hate everyone right back, all changes from this experiment get reverted, and I lose credibility.

VPNs are useful, but I rage at people who assume they are a blanket solution for all situations and use-cases. And often, the people suggesting them are smug, like they have found something that nobody knows about and are superior because their situation doesn't color outside of the lines.

Damn that was nice to vent. Been bothering me for way too damn long.

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Saik0Shinigami 8 points a year ago

and everyone but a single user just hears the ocean.

I'm sorry, but this made me bust laughing. This is dead accurate for a few people in my life.

Then I have to troubleshoot and tell them to toggle it off and on again…

And this is exactly the type of support a lot of people just don't want to do (including me). And the options really boil down to settle for supporting all this, or the risk of public access to unauthenticated endpoints.

They could just fix the endpoints and it'll be a non-issue. But they won't because "backwards compatibility".

There are even other options that I can pre-emptively offer... but they all SUCK.

You can whitelist ip access... ISP ips rotate and are dynamic.
You can setup crowdsec and/or fail2ban... until a user fails to login a few times in a row because users are users and get themselves banned, now you're back to support role.
VPNs already covered ad nauseam.

There are options... they all suck, especially when the answer of JUST FIX THE ENDPOINT is sitting right there.

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the_crotch 5 points a year ago

I had the lock in the corner but I couldn't make a call or get online, so we are all getting [thing you don't like] for dinner since I couldn't ask'. Then I have to troubleshoot and tell them to toggle it off and on again...

"I'm sorry I made my collection of movies available for you to watch for free, I'll make sure to never do anything like that again"

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AtariDump 1 point a year ago

…and everyone but a single user just hears the ocean.

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catloaf -7 points a year ago

Upload is upload. It doesn't matter if it's over the plain Internet or over a tunnel, you're still uploading roughly the same number of bytes per second.

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MangoPenguin 6 points a year ago

use a VPN.

That's difficult when most smart TVs / TV boxes don't really have a VPN option.

Plex works just fine without a VPN.

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Shimitar -14 points a year ago

I am pretty positive you are a Plex shill too at this point...

Keep popping up every time somebody speaks good of jellyfin...

If there are really all those safety holes... Please explain why my publicly exposed instance never got hacked all these years.

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Saik0Shinigami 12 points a year ago

And every time I speak up about it... I find users that never heard of it and want to learn how to reasonably fix it. And those discussion happen.

Example:

Am I a shill for talking about the risk of this specific software and even how to mitigate it with others? or am I a shill because you're defensive over software that you happen to use/like?

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Shimitar -2 points a year ago

Feels like you patrol lemmy to post again and again the same list of "bugs" about a single specific piece of software meanwhile there is an open war moved by a commercial company against that specific piece of software, so yes this is why I think you work or have some personal interest in Plex.

And the fact you run both means nothing, it only make sense that Plex people checkout the market

Also, jellyfin has real downsides to Plex and security is not one of those.

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possiblylinux127 2 points a year ago

How do you even know you were hacked? Are you monitoring the traffic?

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Shimitar 1 point a year ago

I am monitoring my stuff, yes, I think its basic selfhost good practice when you expose stuff.

Beside the monitoring, if I got hacked, they did nothing with that hack so, what's the point.

Unless of course all my collection has been converted to porn or something without me even noticing...

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idriss -1 points a year ago

I had the same thought and I don't understand why you are being down-voted. All those "security issues" are a minor inconvenience at worst. I went through them twice and I am fine living with them in my publicly exposed instance (publicly just for myself and my wife wherever we are).

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Cocodapuf 8 points a year ago

It's plain deceitful to say jellyfin is simply better. It's simply less capable and less supported. I don't know if you're trying to deceive others or just yourself.

Here's the difference: With Plex it's trivial to invite other people to watch content from your server, they can view it on just about any device they have and it doesn't take any complicated networking setup to achieve. Likewise, just as you share your server, you can view content from other people's servers through the same interface. This is not a small feature it's the primary feature of Plex, it's what sets it apart from xbmc or any media center software.

I am totally on board with FOSS and I would absolutely use jellyfin in a second if it could do the things that Plex does. But it can't.

As a side note, this new interface for Plex on mobile is absolute shit, a big step backwards. If I had my way I'd still be using the Plex app from 2016.

The real problem with Plex is that it's a whole package, server and client. If it were instead a server and an open protocol, that anyone could make a client for, that would be vastly superior. I desperately want to use a more customizable 3rd party client with my Plex server.

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Auli 2 points a year ago

No it's not they have to create a Plex account if putting a URL in a window is to technical then creating an account is. Also jfa-go has made inviting so easy.

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Cocodapuf 2 points a year ago

I just looked up jfa-go, I'm not at all opposed to trying things if they'll work.

It seems like jfa-go is a user account management system, which is indeed super useful. But it doesn't handle the remote content part. I'm still not going to create a VPN to share content.

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ccunning 7 points a year ago

Am I correct that there is no first party Jellyfin app for AppleTV?

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mosiacmango 17 points a year ago

There is not, but Infuse is what the Jellyfin project officially recommends.

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stephaaaaan 12 points a year ago

There is Jellyfin, Swiftfin, and Infuse - the latter being 3rd party, but its my favourite so far in terms of stability :)

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ccunning 1 point a year ago

If I remember right I tried to do the Infuse free trial but either Apple or Infuse was choking on processing the trial request and I could never use it.

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Lyra_Lycan 2 points a year ago

Correct, but there is an Emby app for every device.

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ccunning 3 points a year ago

Emby is a paid service right?

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macstainless 1 point a year ago

Correct and what I've seen from Jellyfin / Emby are poor looking at best. While I could cobble together a system that works for me, there's no way anyone I share with would put up with it. Plex is PLEX for a reason.

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WaterSword 1 point a year ago

Yes. But there is a different option. There’s a list of clients on the website.

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haui_lemmy 0 points a year ago

If you use plex and jellyfin anyway, i suggest checking raspberry pi and kodi (libre elec) as an alternative. The pi4 is fine for hd at least, some use it for 4k but i have no exp with that. It works well and helps you get off the apple ecosphere.

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MangoPenguin 5 points a year ago

Jellyfin really needs to work on security and server discovery.

As it is right now you have to manually input the server URL unless it's on the same physical network, discovery won't even work with broadcasts across VLANs, or over the internet.

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Onomatopoeia 2 points a year ago

It doesn't even work right on the same net sometimes.

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possiblylinux127 -2 points a year ago

I think the better answer would be to not expose Jellyfin to the internet.

Although it would be cool if it integrated with something like p2panda or libp2p

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MaggiWuerze 2 points a year ago

And with that it loses any edge it had over Plex. If I have to install a VPN on every device of every user, just because the project wont adhere to basic security practices, then I will not switch to it.

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possiblylinux127 1 point a year ago

I still would choose Jellyfin over Plex in a heart beat. You don't need to switch if you don't want to.

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MangoPenguin 1 point a year ago

It loses a massive feature that Plex has and does really well in that case.

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Hawk 0 points a year ago

"Better"

Maybe if they'd fix their glaring security issues

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MaggiWuerze 2 points a year ago

Or their convoluted settings. When there's a github project that does the HW encoding settings for you, you know it's intuitive...

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gradual -3 points a year ago

https://hydrahd.sh/

Use free streaming sites.

Anything that you want to 'collect' can be downloaded and stored on an external hard drive and taken with you where you need to go.

Don't overcomplicate things just to fit in with losers on the internet.

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DigDoug 122 points a year ago

Well this thread is an absolute shitshow.

Jellyfin is great, but if you refuse to let yourself understand that Plex's ease of setup for remote access is a point in its favour - especially when sharing with non-tech savvy people - then you're just as bad as the supposed "Plex shills".

Plex is well on the enshittification train, and I've always been a bit concerned about how private it may or may not be, but there's absolutely no way I'd have been able to share a Jellyfin instance with my grandfather, especially as his dementia got worse.

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WolfLink 25 points a year ago

I tried jellyfin but it isn’t even close to as a good as plex

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TrickDacy 12 points a year ago

Same as my experience

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j0ester 2 points a year ago

The UI for Jellyfin is horrendous.

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Auli 2 points a year ago

I don't get that. Both display content and seem very similar. Now does Jellyfin have problems yes.

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surph_ninja -16 points a year ago

Emby’s better than both, but jellyfin folks are probably going to crucify me for saying that.

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Faceman2K23 26 points a year ago

jellyfin was a fork of emby anyway, its core framework is solid.

Emby has more of the plex-like polish, but it is more closed source than I would prefer to trust with my media, so I get by with Jellyfin. It works more than well enough fro my in-home media streaming and I still run plex for my remote users as I bought a plex pass way back at the start and I'm going to use it until I simply cant anymore... which seems to be rapidly approaching.

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Appoxo 0 points a year ago

Can't say me remote entry isnt working. Was streaming it from my phone in the firefox and chrome browser while on the go and also from my work pc.
Can't imagine how easier one wants it to be in comparison (it's literally like navigating to Youtube).

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surph_ninja -1 points a year ago

Yeah, I get it. I just prefer the polish.

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Appoxo 10 points a year ago

Always funny how anyone is crucified (on Lemmy) for using Windows or (how dare you) paid and/or free proprietary software.

Yet when it comes to something like Plex they always backpedal and either state that they don't have something like that or it's so convenient.
If one goes on a (F)OSS crusade at least be consistent... >:(

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Saik0Shinigami 2 points a year ago

for using Windows

Has a time and place... But for the general person you can just put them in front of linux and they wouldn't have any idea as long as they can see the chrome icon to get to facebook.

I can see that side of the discussion... Getting over the roadblock of installation... I've converted many people to Linux. My argument with people defending windows is that they always seem to think that "windows just works"... which it really doesn't... or that linux sucks because of x, y, and z... and when I pull out a news article of windows having widespread issues because of "x" where x is literally the same x as they just said for linux... It's cricket chirps all around.

Plex is convenient. It's userbase is proof of that. Windows is convenient in that it comes pre-installed on the computer the user is using... but otherwise a user would be perfectly fine or even possibly have less issues on linux.

I don't find that to be inconsistent.

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roofuskit 4 points a year ago

As someone with lifetime Emby premium, I switched to Jellyfin.

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surph_ninja 2 points a year ago

Why?

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vodka 17 points a year ago

I as an arch using turbonerd absolutely love jellyfin and how I can make it do what I want.

I run plex too, because the support I'd have to provide to family members when they need a password reset, or the jellyfin app doesn't work right on their new Hisense smart TV would be the death of me.

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UnrefinedChihuahua 12 points a year ago

This. Having the provide the support is what stops me from dropping plex entirely. I host jellyfin for the devices I control, and plex for my family and friends, all pointing to the same media.

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Auli 0 points a year ago

Not that bad. It's been about the same for Plex maybe less. Have had lots of Plex isn't working when their servers where down.

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vodka 1 point a year ago

Yeah but I've always blamed plex for 10 years even if it's my fault, so they default to it being a plex issue and don't bother me!

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Auli 2 points a year ago

I have had very old and non techie people setup Jellyfin. Putting a URL in a box is not actually rocket science. I thought it would be way harder but they did it.

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endeavor -1 points a year ago

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Appoxo -11 points a year ago

How so?

Yo dad, heres the login:
username: dad
password: Pa$$TheP0p

If it asks for a URL on the first screen input the following URL: https://jellyfin.domain.tld/

If you (or a relative) can't manage that, I'd be afraid to even let you handle a car or open a bank account.
Can't imagine you relative doesnt also have to create a plex account somewhere to then be invited to the plex share or input the URL to request access.

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Windex007 46 points a year ago

For the record, I fucking hate Plex.

But this is a disingenuous simplification of where the gap is.

Me, my brother-in-law, and friend all share our libraries with the same elderly relatives.

The GAP is that great grandma has to log in/out between servers to find content that may or may not be on an individual server. Plex lets you search/aggregate from all sources without having to jockey credentials and servers.

It's not a giant ask. I heard a fucking absolutely brain-dead take that "that would require a centralized server which is against Jellyfins core ideology".

So, I dunno. Maybe it isn't YOUR use case, but it's MY use case. Doesn't make me a shill. I'm still pissed as hell.

But don't fucking pretend that there is feature parity when there isn't, and don't accuse me of being a shill just because Jellyfin literally doesn't support my use case. I WISH it did. I HATE PLEX.

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Dozzi92 13 points a year ago

You're responding to the same disingenuous argument you see all over Lemmy made by folks whose jobs are in the IT field.

That being said, why hate Plex? I'm sure, like me, you're grandfathered in. Is it fucking new users? Sure. Sucks. Not everything is a battlefield, and they'll eventually fuck me and then I will abandon them, it is what it is. But for now, the shit just always works with almost no tweaking from me. I really can't ask for much more. Got my mom to watch The Wire because of Plex.

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Onomatopoeia 3 points a year ago

I stopped trying to use Plex years ago (like 10) when that shit was just painful... AND they wanted to charge me for the luxury of that pain.

I'm sure it got lots better, but it left such a bad taste in my mouth at the time I've gone without easy media watching instead, and tried all sorts of things.

Hopefully Jellyfin keeps improving. I'd rather donate to them every year than pay a sub to Plex.

Glad it's worked for you though, and I mean that. When Plex worked for me, it was pretty good.

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Marighost 1 point a year ago

I joined Plex a little at the end of 23, but only really started adding content early last year. I'm sort of glad I didn't buy the lifetime pass, given the recent changes.

I've been able to share it with so many people (including tech-unfriendly family members). I guess we'll just have to see what happens next with Plex, unless jellyfin becomes easier to set up for us less experienced home server folks...

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Kusimulkku 0 points a year ago

The GAP is that great grandma has to log in/out between servers to find content that may or may not be on an individual server

What does this mean? I just have one Jellyfin server I put stuff on

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Saik0Shinigami 5 points a year ago

Me, my brother-in-law, and friend all share our libraries with the same elderly relatives.

So grandma would need to switch between all three servers to access all content.

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pHr34kY 13 points a year ago

They won't even get to the login screen.

All my relatives seem to have Hisense VIDAA TVs. There's a plex app on the store. Jellyfin would require an external device like a Chromecast or HTPC to use it.

But now telling then it's $3/month to watch my pirated movies? No bueno.

And on topic, I develop a commercial app and there is no way I am dropping a rating or review on it.

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whoisearth 4 points a year ago

But now telling then it's $3/month to watch my pirated movies? No bueno.

I lol'd at this I won't lie.

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j0ester 2 points a year ago

The individual who owns the server just needs the lifetime pass. People connecting to it doesn’t need to pay now.

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Onomatopoeia 3 points a year ago

I don't disagree with you, at all. But what's the $3/mo subscription you're talking about? I haven't had a Chrome/Firestick/whatever since like 2012, so I'm out of the loop

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pHr34kY 2 points a year ago

It's the "Plex Remote Watch Pass". A new charge for something that used to be free. https://www.plex.tv/plans/

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rumba 11 points a year ago

Assuming you set it up for SSL, and you own and manage your own domain, and they're using a computer. Easy. So for the 10% it's cake.

How's it look for the rest?

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FreedomAdvocate -4 points a year ago

Oh cool so you’re ok with opening ports on your server to the internet with no authentication. Good for you. Most of us with the technical knowledge of hosting a media server know better.

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MrRazamataz 6 points a year ago

What's not authenticated? Run it through nginx and cloudflare, what exactly am I missing?

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catloaf 3 points a year ago

https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/5415

A reverse proxy won't help (unless you're doing authentication with it). A cloudflare tunnel would help, if it requires authentication.

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Auli 1 point a year ago

And Plex your opening 32400 not sure what your argument is.

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Vanilla_PuddinFudge -3 points a year ago

Oh no, Chinese hackers know I only like the first 8 seasons of The Simpsons!

They would, I suppose, were my Jellyfin available to anyone living outside of my own state via geoblocking. You can't even connect to it from the country I host the proxy from, not that they'd do anything if they could, all of the data shared is read-only.

I would've just let my setup be open, but, like you said, most of us with the technical knowledge of hosting a media server know better.

edit: chill with the downvotes, lads. Season 9 isn't completely terrible.

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RedStrider 87 points a year ago

obamaaward.jpg

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PalimpsestNavigator 9 points a year ago

😂 exactly

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LodeMike 75 points a year ago

"Reviews" but there's only one.

This is probably some employee who genuinely likes the U.I.

An actual company-sponsored campaign would NOT use names from actual employees.

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pivot_root 13 points a year ago

Corporations drill it deep into your head that you do not positively promote your own products or negatively review competitor products without both making it clear that you (1) work for $Corp; and (2) are sharing your own, personal opinion.

Giving the benefit of the doubt to Plex, they suck at training employees about social media policies.

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Pilon23 6 points a year ago

Corporations drill it deep into your head that _you do not positively promote your own products or negatively review competitor products

This isn't a general or global thing. I have yet to be told above in any place I've worked, and one place even asked people to write fake reviews on Trustpilot/job sites

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pivot_root 3 points a year ago

Might be. It is definitely a thing, though.

When I used to work for a large American corporation that sold products to consumers, they took it extremely seriously and breaking it would result in disciplinary action. It probably had something to do with advertisement laws, but it also easily could have just been because it makes the company look very bad.

one place even asked people to write fake reviews on Trustpilot/job sites

That sounds unethical, to say the least. Did they verify if you actually did it, or just "suggest" you do?

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Pilon23 1 point a year ago

Might be. It is definitely a thing, though.

Oh I have no doubt about that - maybe there's a story behind their strictness. Maybe the companies I've worked for have not yet had an employee publicly embarrass the company to such an extent, that they felt the need to make this a mandatory part of employee onboarding.

That sounds unethical, to say the least. Did they verify if you actually did it, or just “suggest” you do?

There was no top-down verification, but I worked with a few Grade A suck-ups, who would proudly volunteer information on which accounts they used and which posts were theirs. I kept politely ignoring the repeated verbal requests until management moved on to their next big obsession.

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pressanykeynow 4 points a year ago

Are we even sure it's the same person?

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LodeMike -11 points a year ago

"Plex respects their employees autonomy" wow really??

Mobile app reviews are worthless anyway.

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sin_free_for_00_days 68 points a year ago

Dude just could have said something like,"Hey, I'm a developer of Plex and have really enjoyed my experience using it. Let me know if you'd like to see something added/fixed."

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u_u 18 points a year ago

This would've been the best response. Leaving 5 star review on your company's product + signalling transparency and good communication with costumers? One stone two birds.

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MangoPenguin 59 points a year ago

Is it fake or just a review by an employee that uses plex?

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cygnus 43 points a year ago

Yeah, I`m all for roasting Plex but nothing about that review is inappropriate or prima facie untruthful.

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Couldbealeotard 7 points a year ago

It's inappropriate because you're not allowed to review your own companies software, let alone do so without declaring as such.

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cygnus 0 points a year ago

ou’re not allowed to review your own companies software

Says who? They can still be a user of it.

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Onomatopoeia 7 points a year ago

Google says you can't. It's a violation of their ToS.

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MangoPenguin -3 points a year ago

Who says you're not allowed to?

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Onomatopoeia 7 points a year ago

Google ToS

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FlexibleToast 6 points a year ago

The update makes the download feature objectively worse. So, that was a stretch to praise both.

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midori_matcha 57 points a year ago

This review would have had a lot more credibility if he at least disclosed his affiliation with Plex. Instead, he posed as some unbiased rando while advertising Plex Pass. This is textbook gaslighting.

If you look on Plex's review page in the Play Store, it's receiving overwhelming amounts of negative reviews over the new UI changes, reliability/performance problems, and how the Lifetime Plex Pass purchase is a lifetime of regrets as they watch Plex getting worse every month by enshittifying itself.

If Plex is resorting to leaving fake reviews to save face, then this company is in deeper trouble than I thought.

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vaccinationviablowdart 36 points a year ago

This is textbook gaslighting.

Well if I spent 5 minutes instead of 0.5 minutes I might be able to find an actual text book but I think APA Dictionary of Psychology: "gaslight" is a pretty good definition:

to manipulate another person into doubting their perceptions, experiences, or understanding of events.

And it provides an example, from the original source of the term:

a wife is nearly driven to insanity by the deceptions of her husband

It is tres shitty to minimize actual abusive behavior by applying a term associated with intimate partner violence it to this minor thing which is someone posting a comment on some software he works at using an account which goes to zero effort to obfuscate that.

In penance I decree you should watch the movie https://archive.org/details/gaslight-1944 and tell me if it's any good, I haven't seen it yet.

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Machinist 19 points a year ago

Damn skippy. Gaslighting and basic ass lying are different things. But hey, it's trendy right now. Next, we'll find out how he's a malignant narcissist.

Dude posted a shill review. It's called shilling. It's a form of lying for profit. He likely did it to advance his career or because he was afraid not to. His employer likely encouraged the action without directly ordering it.

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SirSamuel 7 points a year ago

This is the type of pedantry that annoys me and yet I admire. Bravo, good fellow, I salute you

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emeralddawn45 -7 points a year ago

Its literally a false review, designed to counter the multiple negative real reviews that have been left recently. Its a false narrative designed to induce the reader into doubting the ture narrative of the other genuine reviews, or possibly even influence a potential reviewer by coloring their actual experience with the app. Definitely fits the definition you posted, even if its inconsistent with the example they gave.

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BackgrndNoize -12 points a year ago

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scrubbles 42 points a year ago

From the forum post:

Just because he works at Plex doesn’t necessarily make his review fake.

Yikes the copium here. Reviews are meant for users of the app, this is so incredibly biased and in bad taste. I have had my shittiest companies ask us to leave positive reviews on Glassdoor. The shittiest ones.

Maybe their big redesign that no one asked for isn't doing well, and this is a self preservation thing, to get more people to download it. Maybe CEO asked them to. Maybe they're just over eager. All are excuses and not valid reasons to give a rating on your own company's product

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FreedomAdvocate 11 points a year ago

While I don’t think it’s a great look, employees can be customers/users too. I can’t imagine a Plex employee wouldn’t actually use Plex either. They should have disclosed that they’re an employee in the review.

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Croquette 6 points a year ago

Yes, but since he is working on the product itself, it's heavily biased.

He can use the app without leaving a review.

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Nalivai 0 points a year ago

He can be working on whatever unrelated part and just be excited about the product that his company makes. It's not impossible

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endeavor 5 points a year ago

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ICastFist 1 point a year ago

Somewhat related, I recall Michael Bell talking about his experience with Soul Reaver, shortly after release. The voice of Raziel couldn't get past the jump part of the tutorial and just gave up

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kameecoding 3 points a year ago

The download functionality also has been broken for a while and not working for lots of users, even LTT made a video about it, so even if we give the benefit of the doubt that he is merely doing a "works on my machine" thing it's not a great look

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PalimpsestNavigator 3 points a year ago

I bet someone got it in their head that slow reviews were the reason the company wasn’t meeting a goal, and they asked everyone to contribute.

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Jimmycakes 35 points a year ago

I don't count this as fake. He most certainly uses the software and the features he described are actually features under plex pass. And I no doubt believe he enjoys it. No lies here. My experience with plex pass is the same lol.

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Syltti 21 points a year ago

I think the point being made is that company staff shouldn't be leaving five-star reviews on products they, themselves, work on. Whether they do it because they love the product, or a company suit told them to. Personally, I think it's fine to try and convince people to use your/your company's software, but giving yourself a five-star review to do so is downright pathetic.

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Onomatopoeia 2 points a year ago

Mostly without being transparent, and stating they work for the company.

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Pika 1 point a year ago

I'm fully okay with them doing so, but they have to disclose what they're doing so. Like the fact that the review didn't disclose that they were an employee is very sketchy to me.

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FlexibleToast 14 points a year ago

They seriously enshitified the download feature. You used to be able to set it to download X number of unplayed episodes. Then it would manage downloading fresh content for you as you watched stuff. Now you have to manually download each and every episode yourself. This was literally the killer feature Plex had over Jellyfin for me.

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LavaPlanet 3 points a year ago

I think they're getting pressure re the pirating aspect. I could imagine the bigger they get the bigger the magnifying glass will be held up to them. They're probably doing some fancy footwork to be able to remain in production / avoid lawsuits and similar pressure.

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FlexibleToast 5 points a year ago

Sure, that's why they keep adding features people don't want. But gimping one of their key paid features makes no sense to me.

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Robust_Mirror 2 points a year ago

I would imagine its harder to argue you don't condone your users using it for piracy when you have a feature that automatically does stuff very closely related to piracy. I'm not going to get into an argument over whether it's defensible legally or not, but it makes sense to me that they play it safe in general.

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Onomatopoeia 2 points a year ago

Oh, ffs, really? That's kind of the reason for a download feature.

Pricks.

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Sunny 2 points a year ago

Yeah fair enough, and I do agree. I only reused the title of the forum post where this was originally posted. Have changed the title up now.

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LandedGentry 9 points a year ago

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Couldbealeotard 7 points a year ago

If he was forthcoming in his review, it would have been to obvious that it's a breach of the ToS. Workers are not permitted to review apps made by their own company.

This is 100% a shady review.

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LandedGentry 4 points a year ago

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aramova 31 points a year ago

And of course the twats locked the thread.

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autonomoususer 23 points a year ago

Daily reminder, Plex fails to include a libre software license text file. We do not control it, anti-libre software.

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Sunny 21 points a year ago

In addition: Sharing this post form r/selfhosted which also describes the recent Plex situation lately, worth a read.

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LazerDickMcCheese 16 points a year ago

What do ya know, yet another day of being happy I never invested in Plex

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LodeMike -3 points a year ago

Yet again Plex is an amazing example of how people become more angry because they give things away for free.

If everything required a Plex pass less people would be angry.

Just use want you want.

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possiblylinux127 5 points a year ago

I personally don't see a reason to use Plex over Jellyfin. Apparently some people agree since Jellyfin made bank from donations.

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LodeMike 3 points a year ago

Plexamp

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Couldbealeotard 2 points a year ago

A lot of the angst about the server requirements for Plex pass really have to stretch the truth to become a victim. It only affects you if you were using it for free, in which case 🤷, it was free, it's hard to feel bad about it.

The only thing I'm disappointed in is the free mobile streaming comes at the same time they released the new broken app. When they get around to fixing the app I'll be able to tell my friends they can now use the app. The server owner paying once is much better than every person paying for the app.

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drperil 20 points a year ago

lol, did he have the AI bros in marketing write it too? If they’re gonna do this they could at least write their own bullshit…

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jonne 17 points a year ago

Marketing probably asked everyone to write a review on their internal Slack or something.

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Xirup 20 points a year ago

Is the user from Playstore the real Rui Lebre? I mean, I can create on any platform users with real people names, but how can people know that it is the real person that is creating the comment, not just an imposter?

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Sunny 15 points a year ago

Don't know for sure ofc, but the co-founder has commented in the thread without addressing the issue. They've also closed the thread without addressing all together which also seems weird. Surely if it wasn't him they would have said so?

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tetris11 19 points a year ago

I'm not a fan of Plex and switched to Jellyfin very early on, but I'm a bit confused by the outrage here. He used his real name to report on a UX he built. I see FOSS developers do this all the time, and it seems pretty innocuous.

I can imagine if he generated thousands of anonymous accounts and did the same it'd be very bad, but an author commenting on his own work using his full real name doesn't seem like a conspiracy plot

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possiblylinux127 5 points a year ago

It isn't terrible but it isn't great

It would've been better if he gave a disclaimer

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winterreach 19 points a year ago

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Sunny 3 points a year ago

It could. But the co-founder and staff have replied on the thread without addressing it being false. Feel like they would have called it out being fake if it truly was.

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rowdyrockets 1 point a year ago

Read the source.

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cyberpunk007 17 points a year ago

I fucking hate how I can't listen to my music libraries in the main app now. I have a separate profile for other people in the house and I can't switch profiles with plexamp.

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rumba 13 points a year ago

Community Manager: After we changed the terms of our public client to force everyone to pay for what used to be a free service, our ratings have taken a hit. If we don't get back to at least 4.0, Google won't feature us for free advertising. Everyone, go and leave a 5-star review.

Developers: but there are mill....

Community Manager: STOP, go and review now. scoot!

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catsarebadpeople 12 points a year ago

I work at a brewery. Am I not allowed to tell people I like the beer I brew? I'm doing this very wrong I guess my brewery has been enshittified by me. Bummer

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Mustakrakish 52 points a year ago

If you leave your brewery a public review pretending to just be another customer, yeah thats pretty shitty. You kniw what you're doing, don't play games.

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gradual 4 points a year ago

You kniw what you’re doing

Exactly. They know what they're doing and we shouldn't pretend that they don't.

Scumbags are all around us, hiding in plain sight.

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Xanza 28 points a year ago

Am I not allowed to tell people I like the beer I brew?

That's not really what he's doing though. It would be like if you pretended to be a customer and drink your own beer in front of actual customers and were like "WOW! This beer is super good! The guy who made it has a really big dick!"

It's just shitty to do because it's sheistery as fuck.

Plex employees totally have the right to review Plex in the store. But they should be expected to advertise that they work for Plex...because he didn't the review loses any credibility that it had previously.

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discount_door_garlic 26 points a year ago

you know full well its not a matter of liking the product you're affiliated with, but an undisclosed conflict of interest in an environment where people have a reasonable expectation of transparent, non-biased testimonials from normal end users, not shilling from paid employees.

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Asidonhopo 13 points a year ago

I was going to say if he writes an app and doesn't like it, something's wrong there

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sugar_in_your_tea 19 points a year ago

Perhaps. Either way, he's biased, and reviews should be unbiased.

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BigPotato 2 points a year ago

They don't need to be, as long as you disclose your bias.

Reviews of VIM will inherently be biased by interest level in keyboard only navigation. No one can critically review anything entirely without bias unless we allow for reviewers to admit their biases.

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sugar_in_your_tea 3 points a year ago

Sure, but they didn't, and that's the main problem here. But even if they did, it's a bit sketchy for a commercial product.

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gradual 11 points a year ago

You can tell people whatever you want and they can criticize you accordingly.

If you don't disclose your affiliation with a company that you're shilling, rational people will criticize you for being biased and self-serving.

If you want to avoid this completely rational, acceptable, and expected criticism, then you should reveal any conflicts of interest before or during your promotion of the business.

This shouldn't need to be spelled out for you, but this generation has been conditioned to be proud of ignorance and defending abuse.

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anas 4 points a year ago

Are you allowed to tell people that you dislike your beer, as a representative of the brewery?

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catsarebadpeople 0 points a year ago

Sure, but I like it. I will say I often appreciate negative feedback though. Always trying to improve

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paraphrand 0 points a year ago

People really abuse that new and very useful word. It diminishes the usefulness.

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RedSquadCampFollower 5 points a year ago

I saw someone describe rental housing as enshittified.

No honey, it's just shitty.

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infinitesunrise 1 point a year ago

It's very nearly a synonym for value extraction. I guess specifically it refers to the consequences of value extraction on the web, but really I think Doctorow's whole goal with that campaign was to make people aware of how awful venture capital and value extraction really are for us. I'm less concerned with preserving a canonical definition of enshittification as I am getting people aware of the consequences of capitalist financialization. As a well-published author himself, I'm sure Doctorow is well prepared for figurative death of the author :P

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hugh 10 points a year ago

Never underestimate the sycophantic idiocy of individual tech workers. One developer does not make a corporate policy. I’m not defending Plex though, if I used them I’d switch away.

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sunzu2 1 point a year ago

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ToadOfHypnosis 7 points a year ago

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AtariDump -3 points a year ago

Just ignore the security problems with remote streaming.

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ToadOfHypnosis 2 points a year ago

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NOT_RICK 7 points a year ago

This was a nice reminder to leave some bad reviews on the App Store

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Saik0Shinigami 3 points a year ago

Yeah this "revamp" is just bad. I dislike it a lot. I'm seriously debating on rolling it back... but I don't tend to watch media on my phone and the new update hasn't hit any of my TVs yet.

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GreatRam 1 point a year ago

It literally crashes the app for me every time I go to downloads. I had to revert to the previous version

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Couldbealeotard 1 point a year ago

I rolled back. It was fairly easy and now the downloads work again.

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pigeonholedpoetry 7 points a year ago

Never thought I’d see the hate for plex on here get to this level.

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FlexibleToast 10 points a year ago

Every update they've made for just about the past decade has made the product worse for the original users who just want to stream their own media. This last UI update killed my favorite download feature. They deserve the hate they're getting.

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possiblylinux127 8 points a year ago

That's what happens when you piss off a loyal fan base

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GreenKnight23 -14 points a year ago

it's almost as if a small group of people are desperately trying to make people change to jellyfin.

6 months ago I was seriously looking at jellyfin as a Plex alternative. Now? nah, I'm good.

I'll take a corporate shitheel company over a roach infested toxic community any day.

the more they push the less I want anything to do with jellyfin, and the leaders at jellyfin should be made aware of what their community members are doing.

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possiblylinux127 8 points a year ago

A large group of people got pissed off at all the enshitification of Plex. It isn't a personal attack and you are welcome to keep using Plex. However, it is evident that many are looking towards Jellyfin as a better alternative.

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MaggiWuerze -7 points a year ago

You clearly have not been in a lot of Plex/Jellyfin threads. Using Plex is often portrayed as some kind of capital sin by hardcore Jellyfin fans.

I'm also in the boat of letting people use what they want, but the discussion is usually not made in good faith

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grue 8 points a year ago

but the discussion is usually not made in good faith

"Everybody who disagrees with me is a troll or a shill."

Sure, buddy, because Free Software projects run by volunteers famously have huge guerilla marketing budgets. Won't somebody think of the poor for-profit companies who first got their leg up by taking Free Software code they didn't write and then subsequently gradually closed and enshittified it? They're the real victims here.

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SexualPolytope 7 points a year ago

I’ll take a corporate shitheel company over a roach infested toxic community any day.

What an asinine fucking take. Even if Plex were better than Jellyfin in every single way (it isn't), this take would still be asinine. I mean, wtf dude. You can just not care about the community and everything keeps working. A "shitheel" company will do everything to make your experience suck.

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Cocodapuf 0 points a year ago

Meh, seems like a sensible take. Certainly better for your mental health.

Communities matter. There's a reason I'm not on X, there's a reason I don't play pubg or overwatch, toxic communities can seriously make any experience suck.

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GreenKnight23 -9 points a year ago

You can just not care about the community and everything keeps working. A "shitheel" company will do everything to make your experience suck.

And a toxic shitheel community won't do that?

it's comments like yours that makes me feel vindicated in choosing corporate over FOSS, and I know I'm not the only one.

Thanks for doing your part in proving my point.

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SexualPolytope 6 points a year ago

No. You know you don't need to join a community for using something, right? I didn't join a community for my dishwasher. Not even for most of my apps, actually. It's very easy. When you choose corporate, you're giving money for shit service. There's literally no way for dissociate from that. On the other hand, you can simply not participate in a community, no one's forcing you. It's just weird that you'd still prefer the corporate way.

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x4740N 7 points a year ago

Conflict of intrest

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iAmTheTot 6 points a year ago

I ditched Plex for Jellyfin a while ago and am not a fan of Plex, but this is the silliest thing to complain about. First of all, just because they work for Plex doesn't automatically make it a fake review. Certainly wouldn't call it an unbiased one, but that doesn't mean the review is fake.

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possiblylinux127 5 points a year ago

It would've been fine with a disclaimer

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Onomatopoeia 4 points a year ago

It's biased and problematic because they don't state they work for Plex.

Thing is, had they been transparent about it, at least we could give them credit for acknowledging that up front. Now we have to wonder how many reviews are from employees.

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PP_BOY_ 6 points a year ago

Counterpoint: when I worked at Panda Express, I used to leave fake reviews on our store about how helpful and professional pp_boy_ was because I wanted a raise. Never did it on any accounts attached to my name though.

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Know_not_Scotty_does 6 points a year ago

I have been really happy with hosting my stuff via Emby even with my friend's library on Plex. I have found the media recognition and identification system in Emby to be much better/easier to use.

While the music player in Emby is nowhere near as good as plexamp. I mostly store a local copy of my music on my phone anyways so it is not really an issue. I am going to start playing with navidrome when I get time but a one directional sync with syncthing fromy server to my phone would also work for my needs.

The Emby app on android tv is decent but not flashy and does not have streaming content by default, it is fully functional as a media player for library files.

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chamgireum 6 points a year ago

Today i finalized my switch over to Jellyfin. I was a lifetime member but i'm tired of letting them scrape my data.

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dave 5 points a year ago

do you know for a fact that is him and not just someone using his name? either way this is fairly harmless

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x4740N 4 points a year ago

That plex thread is a shitshow

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oyzmo 3 points a year ago

Why all the hate for Plex?

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Sunny 4 points a year ago

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possiblylinux127 5 points a year ago

I find it interesting how the remaining Plex fan base gets extremely pissed off when you criticize Plex. Saying how much you dislike a product doesn't mean that you are attacking the product users.

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MaggiWuerze 3 points a year ago

It doesn't have to, but the tone that is used when criticizing Plex users is pretty personal a lot of the time. Hard not to take it personally when using Plex is portrayed as as a sign of brain damage

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oyzmo 3 points a year ago

Ohh, ok. That's not good, and those are some good points. I actually thought Plex was a nice, open source, project and bought a Lifepass 🙈

It runs very smooth, and I really like the plexamp app for iphone. Does Jellyfin run as smooth, and have a music stream app?

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RaptorBenn 3 points a year ago

I used plex like a decade ago is it still the only decent option for gile share streaming?

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Rivalarrival 16 points a year ago

Never used plex. Finally got around to installing Jellyfin. Very happy with it.

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kameecoding 3 points a year ago

There is Jellyfin and also a paid fork of Jellyfin, forgot what it's called, but Jellyfin is good enough imo

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firewallfail 1 point a year ago

Jellyfin is a fork of emby. I'm not sure the state of it now but when I chose jellyfin it had most of the emby paid features and from a quick glance the UI hasn't improved much while jellyfin has gotten a lot better.

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CmdrShepard42 3 points a year ago

This reminds me to go leave a review on their refresh of the app. I just got off a plane and Plex wouldn't load once I lost service for me or my wife to watch our downloaded media.

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UberKitten 3 points a year ago

it’s a single review, who cares?

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Onomatopoeia 1 point a year ago

Is it?

Have you performed the analysis on Plex reviews and know exactly how many 5 star reviews were posted by employees?

Because I don't, and that's a problem, as well as a Google ToS violation.

I hope their app gets dropped from the store, at least long enough for them to have to go groveling to Google to get in reinstated, especially since Google likes to drop OSS devs for undisclosed reasons, and make them jump through hoops to get back on.

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MITM0 1 point a year ago

Hence why you should never trust proprietary software (or even hardware if you wish)

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cupcakezealot 1 point a year ago

i mean im sure they use it too and nothing they said was anything but their personal opinion so i don't think it's that big a deal

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airikr 1 point a year ago

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vrighter 1 point a year ago

subtitles have completely stopped working for me :/

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vaccinationviablowdart -2 points a year ago

edit: replied in the wrong spot. moved elsewhere in the thread.

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catloaf 2 points a year ago

It's about on par with other movies of the era. If you like those, you'll like Gaslight.

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Onomatopoeia 1 point a year ago

Hitchcockian study of human nature. Everyone should see it at least once, too fully understand the meaning of gaslight.

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vaccinationviablowdart 0 points a year ago

I seem to have replied to the main thread instead of the specific comment that mentioned gaslight. Didn't you notice a complete no sequitur?

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catloaf 2 points a year ago

It must have been under the one you meant to reply to, because I swear I saw it as a reply. (Boost sometimes doesn't display reply indents properly anyway.)

Or are you gaslighting me right now?

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gradual -5 points a year ago

Plex has always been shilled hard for useful idiots with more money than sense.

Like, free streaming services are right there. Why overcomplicate things just so you can fit in with other losers on the internet?

I swear, so many of you are leaning on each other without realizing none of you have a clue what's going on.

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daq 1 point a year ago

It's relatively inexpensive and makes life much easier for people who are not tech savvy. Your position is that of an incredibly egoistic person that never had to help an older relative or dealt with an adult who doesn't have time for random bs during an hour or so of downtime most people get in a day.

If spending hours trying to figure out which "free" streaming service had not gotten shot down today and magically has the content you want is worth less to you than a one time payment of a few bucks to plex, then you really don't value your time.

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OmegaLemmy -10 points a year ago

Do you hate Plex so much that you're going out of your way to invent fake reasons to try to make others hate it even more?

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