We don’t know that was why they denied it, this could be shadenfreud (sp?) because they would be denied regardless.
At least I choose to believe that, because I can’t imagine being petty enough to do that.
wise_pancake 114 points a year ago
CaptainThor 6 points a year ago
I exclusively drink She-Wolf
vorlaut_boy 2 points a year ago
Actually it is called "Scheidenfreude".
killeronthecorner 2 points a year ago
Gesundheit
Successful_Try543 14 points a year ago
Usually, one feels Schadenfreude when something bad 'just' happens to somebody else, like Karma, but not due to ones own actions.
Successful_Try543 2 points a year ago
Upps. Aber: ja.
dangrousperson 3 points a year ago
Not really. The best example of Schadenfreude (imo) is when you follow a sports team (probably not too many of you here on Lemmy), whenever the rival team loses you feel Schadenfreude. There doesn't have to be any kind of 'just-ness' to it, actually if the rival team losses unjustly (played better, but were unlucky) the Schadenfreude is actually greater.
Of course there are times when something bad finally happens to someone that deserves it and you feel joy from it, but I wouldn't call that Schadenfreude, more like 'Vergeltungsfreude'.
While 'Schadenfreude' literally translates to the joy of damage, 'Vergeltungsfreude' would translate to the joy of retribution. Source: my German ass
Successful_Try543 3 points a year ago
That's at least one case of Schadenfreude.
ExtantHuman 1 point a year ago
FAFÖ
BarbecueCowboy 9 points a year ago
At least I choose to believe that, because I can’t imagine being petty enough to do that.
Have you met people?
echodot 6 points a year ago
I assume that was the case because it isn't really a human decision anymore. Whether a mortgage application is accepted or denied is based on the decision of a computer, the human just informs you the computer's decision.
helpImTrappedOnline 25 points a year ago
I dunno, some teachers are sadists too proud or ugly for a career path more in line with their personality.
echodot 0 points a year ago
I'm thinking about the teachers I had in school and trying to work out what they would be doing if they couldn't have been teachers.
Some of them definitely would have worked in HR. Being the teacher was their access to a world of petty vindictiveness where they were absolute rulers and could do whatever they wanted.
curiousaur 10 points a year ago
They didn't say that's why they rejected them. Maybe they'd be rejected either way, they just got to be happy about it.
andybytes 8 points a year ago
Oh my god, yes. Your best victory is the victory of succeeding at something and moving the fuck on with your life if you can. People are shitty. Our environment is shitty. It is what it is. Keep trucking. I am a product of my environment, but I can control some of it. In my opinion, chasing your goals, time and distance is a solution for all social ills. Well maybe not all but I mean shit you gotta try
Fredthefishlord 2 points a year ago
The best victory is watching them suffer as they made you.
Fredthefishlord -1 points a year ago
The best victory is watching them suffer as they made you.
MutilationWave 63 points a year ago
Six years ago my former coworker's house burnt down and I gave them a decent amount of money, no strings.
Three weeks ago the same person gave me a job making 30% more money than I was.
It goes around the nice way too sometimes.
acockworkorange 2 points a year ago
I think they're hot too.
Nangijala 44 points a year ago
To normal people: be nice to kids because they need the support and encouragement to grow into stable adults with a healthy sense of self worth.
To the selfish people: be nice to kids because you never know when you might need their mercy in the future.
Little8Lost 4 points a year ago
For people: be nice to kids because you later need them to pay your "elderly money"
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GreenKnight23 61 points a year ago
had a teacher traumatize and humiliate me for four years.
I contemplated suicide at 12 years old.
Luckily I found strength in my spite and hatred for her to push forward.
last I heard, her husband died of colon cancer, she lost the farm and her house, and her only son turned out to be gay (they were "Christians").
I still remember her nasty mustache and shitty attitude, and will always remember her.
I'm doing good in my life, better than her.
there's only one other person who I hate more and I'm eagerly waiting to toast to their deaths.
they are literally the only people I could never forgive.
before you pass judgment ask yourself this, "who tells a bullied overweight 12 year old who is clearly having home problems that they need to 'lose some weight' and they won't 'be so fat'. 'who knows, you might not be such a loser like your father.'
DragonTypeWyvern 41 points a year ago
Y'all need to stop carrying so much unresolved anger and learn to carry out elaborate revenge plots instead.
ScrotusMaximus 33 points a year ago
we didn't hear the part about how that teacher lost the farm due to an elaborate revenge plot where they gave the husband colon cancer and seduced the son
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boonhet 19 points a year ago
There's been exactly one school shooting in my country. Teacher bullied a kid whose father was a strict army man. Gave him worse grades on purpose knowing he'd have to run 20 km home for it, etc. So one day he went to school with a gun and shot that one teacher and nobody else. So that's what a shitty teacher (and a shitty father) can do to a child.
Wasn't my hometown but I knew people who went to the same school at the same time. Nobody condoned the murder, but people did see where he was coming from.
Pacattack57 25 points a year ago
Trauma sticks with a person.
PumaStoleMyBluff 12 points a year ago
I remember all my teacher's names from preschool through high school, is that strange?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 4 points a year ago
I can barely remember the names of my close friends from elementary and middle school. Can't remember all of them. Only reason I can remember the high school friends is the yearbook, and I've still forgot half of them.
CuddlyCassowary 2 points a year ago
No, I can as well.
CuddlyCassowary 10 points a year ago
Not weird to me. I still remember every single teacher’s name to this day…I started school in 1978.
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Redredme 2 points a year ago
Some people, especially teachers, burn in your memory.
I had a same"ish" thing with a teacher who tried to flunk me but failed at his own math. Funnily the guy who couldnt count and divide gave general economics, business economics and business administration. He hated my guts and I his.
Anyway, My average was a 8.5, he gave me a 3 for an oral exam thinking he flunked me as it was half of the total average before the written exams. He Glee fully shared my grade with the class. I reminded him as emotionless as I could that 8.5+3=11.5/2=5,75 so still a pass. And with the written exam on the horizon, which I would not screw up because I was good at it and he would be unable to screw me over on it because written exams are checked by several other teachers as well..
He just lost it. He bursted in flames, started raging and kicked me out of all his classes for the rest of the year. This was in december/January, the exams where in may.
Naturally I passed all his classes with even the highest grades of the school for the written exams. It was very clear to every one he tried to fuck me over when seeing the grades.
Every teacher congratulated me. Asking me how the f i did that without any lessons. Except he. He saw me at the exam presentation, got all red and just fucking left.
I laughed at the loser he was. I still remember the law prof smirking as well over the situation. And his name i cant remember. But this guy who tried to fuck me over because he just didnt liked me.. his name is burned in my brain forever.
And I remember all this to this day. This was in 1994. What an ass that guy was. It was also my first experience that most Adult people are not honest. And that them being nice is mostly a charade. And they will fuck you over for looking the wrong way or especially for a small percentage.
Shayeta 2 points a year ago
Every teacher congratulated me. Asking me how the f i did that without any lessons.
Man, I hope you told the other teachers that attending his lessons would have had no impact on the test results anyways.
echodot 4 points a year ago
I only remember the names of two teachers.
The one that set fire to the science classroom, and thus became a legend. And the utterly horrible one that hated kids and should not have been allowed to become a teacher.
All the others have just faded into the background because they were neither fun nor memorable.
CuddlyCassowary 2 points a year ago
Yeah, my 9th grade chemistry teacher, Mr. Kavall, should not have been working with children. Possibly being a drill sergeant might have suited him better.
ChickenLadyLovesLife 3 points a year ago
That's pretty impressive. I started school in 1973 and I can remember a couple of teachers' names at most.
CuddlyCassowary 3 points a year ago
Kindergarten - Mrs. Gall 1st - Ms. Voght 2nd - Ms. Lenahan 3rd - Ms. Piper 4th - Ms. Noda 5th - Mr. Kramer (Cramer?) Orchestra - Mr. Graves
6th & onward gets tricky because we switched teachers for each subject and had different ones every year. That list would get really long, and be highly boring to type out (and probably to read as well).
SpiderUnderUrBed 33 points a year ago
I'm all for pettyness in most cases.. but uhh. This is a bit much don't ya think?
themaninblack -4 points a year ago
No quarter to people who treat children like shit.
davepleasebehave 6 points a year ago
what goes around comes around. things swing one way and then another.
davepleasebehave 4 points a year ago
Sometimes you are on the recieving end of the shit winds, sometimes you are the bellow.
InverseParallax 8 points a year ago
unemployedclaquer 3 points a year ago
i'm still not getting it. "swings and roundabouts"
NotASharkInAManSuit 3 points a year ago
I’ve always known it to mean the same thing as “potato potAHto” or “six of one, half dozen of the other.”
I.E. “What’s the difference between saying “potato potAHto” and “six of one, half dozen of the other.”?” To which I’d say, “Meh, swings and roundabouts.”
Chocobofangirl 3 points a year ago
You know, we're all coming at this like 'wow this person is stupid and hateful, saying swings and roundabouts when they meant what goes around comes around', but what if they actually just said it in a 'c'est la vie' kind of way? Like 'well you made me sad and I made you sad. Such is life.' Especially when you add the context of how they probably HAD to refuse said mortgage application instead of exercising leeway to do so.
unemployedclaquer -3 points a year ago
i am definitely guilty of being a jerk but I thought it was a thing about discriminating against queer/trans?
InverseParallax 5 points a year ago
In https://interestingliterature.com/...
But he’s also sometimes credited with popularising, or even inventing, the phrase ‘swings and roundabouts’, meaning ‘a situation in which different actions or options result in no eventual gain or loss.’ In other words, ‘it’s all much of a muchness’. Chalmers used this phrase – and the accompanying sentiment or meaning – in a poem titled ‘Roundabouts and Swings’, which was first published in Chalmers’ volume Green Days and Blue Days in 1912. The original poem is interesting not least because it cleverly employs existing expressions (round and round, up and down) to describe the pattern of financial profit and loss experienced by the travelling man. In doing so, and in using the symbols of the roundabouts and the swings to reinforce this sense of gain and loss, the poem arguably helped to bring the phrase to a wider audience
And that is several square millimeters of cerebral cortex that you no longer have available for other patterns.
unemployedclaquer 2 points a year ago
nice. guess i coulda looked it up. not a fan of the poem though.
slappypantsgo 28 points a year ago
I’d like to know more context. Without it, it makes the poster seem like a traitor.
booly 10 points a year ago
Yeah, my reading of this is that this poster took particular personal satisfaction from denying an application, but it didn't cross my mind that there was any element of actual control or decisionmaking.
It's like when someone cuts you off and then crashes their car. You didn't cause the crash, and a crashed car is a much more severe punishment than simple rudeness would deserve, but you can still derive satisfaction from the sequence of events.
slappypantsgo 1 point a year ago
That is definitely not true. But that’s not the context I meant.
unemployedclaquer 13 points a year ago
agreed and affirmed but since we're here, fuck banks
ObviouslyNotBanana 7 points a year ago
If I had it I'd share it!
Sillyglow 24 points a year ago
This reminds me of the simpsons when Lisa learns what kind of life her teachers live so she decides to be much nicer to these people who spend so much of their days with children sacrificing to a life of service and little thanks.
But you’re the opposite.
Face it: kids can be a lot. Sometimes you got to own that you were the little shit in someone’s life sometimes.
ProgrammingSocks 7 points a year ago
Children can't be held to the standard of adults. Teachers certainly should be paid more but if you can't handle working with kids teaching might not be your gig.
moonbunny 23 points a year ago
I’ve held an interview with one of my former school bullies from highschool for a position under my team. I only had a suspicion when I came across the resume, but I just knew it was him when I saw his face on cam.
It was nice seeing him fumble over the curveball technical questions that I threw at him, and told HR that he wasn’t only a poor fit, but not to even send a follow up response l either.
Burninator05 12 points a year ago
Not a school bully but more of an adult would-be bully/asshole. I saw his resume come across my bpss's desk and I made sure he didnt even get considered for an interview. Feels good man.
NocturnalMorning 20 points a year ago
Well, OP is just an asshole then. (I'm guessing this isn't really OPs post)
bizarroland 73 points a year ago
They didn't say they rejected it out of revenge.
Maybe the teacher was a shitty mortgage applicant with terrible credit and multiple foreclosures and the fact that they got to reject the application was just the cherry on top.
underwire212 12 points a year ago
I bet the real reason is that this is fake
ObviouslyNotBanana 16 points a year ago
Are you telling me personal petty revenge isn't a certified approved bank reason?!
Thrashy 2 points a year ago
Anti-discrimination laws in the US apply to discrimination based on what's called a "protected class," which essentially boils down to a small set of personal characteristics you're not allowed to base a decision about a person on. For the purposes of housing, this includes race, skin color, and national origin, gender and sexual orientation, whether there are minor children in the family, and disability.
"Being somebody who the loan officer has a deeply personal vendetta against" is not a protected class, and if the original OP did in fact reject a mortgage application on that basis they'd most likely be legally in the clear. Whether their employer would be happy to know about it is another story, but if it was anywhere near a coin-toss decision I doubt they'd ever have to justify themselves.
philpo 11 points a year ago
Depends on the circumstances. One might feel a bit smug when karma strikes back as long as one acts professionally. The teacher might have gotten rejected for absolute objective and normal reasons. Like thousands of people do.
And after handling that professionally the poster can humanely feel smug and happy for a short moment in their otherwise likely stressful adult life. And that's okay.
By profession (emergency medicine with a stint in forensic mental health) I get into contact with some really bad people who have done really nasty things. Will I treat them as professionally as I treat every patient? Yes. But there are moments. Years ago I responded to a patient getting bitten in his ass by a police dog(as in the dog literally did bite a seizable piece of meat out of it)after fleeing a scene of a DUI stop(and punching a young police officer). At the same time as we arrive the detective superintendent arrives(as it is protocol here in these cases when someone gets injured by police directly). He is a fairly nice chap I went to school with - and who was relentlessly bullied by a guy a few grades above us. Like...really really bad...to a level that would land one in prison these days. Well, the world is small and guess who Mr. Dogfood was.
Well. We did our job as professionally as we do it with everyone. But when the patient was handed over in hospital we had a good chuckle, cracked a few bad jokes somewhere no member of the public could hear us,asked each other how the respective wives were doing and went on with our workday. And that's okay.
Tiger 3 points a year ago
Aye, must have been tempting to not clean that wound as well as you usually would have, but as soon as the thought crossed the mind you do it extra well just out of habit and doubling down on professionalism.
ObviouslyNotBanana 9 points a year ago
This is not my post, no. It is incredibly petty!
Pacattack57 8 points a year ago
Mortgage applications are not yes or no. There is a checklist that if met, gets approved. The name doesn’t even matter. Just basic credit bullshit.
andybytes 5 points a year ago
You're going to send your kids to these schools. And as we start lowering the bar more and more, we're going to have some very anti-social human beings around people's children. And those children are going to become citizens in our society. Hurt people, hurt people, in which they shouldn't. You should break the cycle and overthrow kings. There is a reason why things are the way they are. And if not aware, you can become a product of your environment.
original_reader 15 points a year ago
That's just small.
Iheartcheese 27 points a year ago
Yeah, this is no where near enough revenge. She needs to go bigger.
ObviouslyNotBanana 3 points a year ago
Tiny
pressedhams 6 points a year ago
Minuscule
andybytes 14 points a year ago
You get what you give. Don't become the monster. A real class act would just dangle it in front of them and then just approve it anyways. Like bitch I'm over it, I don't give a fuck. You're just a dumb ass speed bump.
Fredthefishlord 30 points a year ago
Being a class act is extremely overrated. People should get what they have coming
BigPotato 5 points a year ago
Why not both? Give people who deserve it grace and be the bigger person and burn those that don't to the ground.
Of course, if you find out that they did deserve grace later, you'll need to destroy the biggest monster of all, yourself.
slappypantsgo -10 points a year ago
Why would you assume this worthless dumbfuck is a bank clerk?
Goltbrook 4 points a year ago
Where else do you get mortgages?
I mean, technically you can contract a mortgage between any two legally able persons.
But I'd say a mortgage between private individuals is a rare exception.
Usually it is bank/credit unions, or corporations specializing in mortgages as their primary business. But I think you can lump most of those under the umbrella term. At least as far as their employees being able to just approve or deny you for personal reasons.
slappypantsgo 1 point a year ago
The person who runs these things is not the clerk. There is no implication that they were the clerk in the transaction. They could be, but that’s not implied at ALL. No matter how many worthless shitbags downvote the truth.
Surp 10 points a year ago
Seeing the people that are happy to ruin someone else's life because they were bullied by them a decade ago...goes to show you no one can ever forgive. Just animals the lot of ya....people change, maybe give them a chance.
rhadamanth_nemes 12 points a year ago
As someone who was bullied, and who still has flashbacks and triggers from it... Yeah I would try to forgive them, but I'm not going to feel bad about delivering some consequences.
Like I'm glad that you grew as a person but the injured party should decide if the person who inflicted the injury gets a free pass. And either way they're 100% correct.
camelbeard 1 point a year ago
But I guess whoever bullied you was another kid doing it over and over? Not a teache that made you cry during a school trip one day.
Surp -4 points a year ago
No you just have a light taste of revenge in your heart and are trying to justify it any way you can. I was bullied too up until my sophomore year of highschool starting in kindergarten so I'm no stranger to being bullied. All because of a disease I had.
Mpatch 8 points a year ago
Yeah it's cool to keep letting shity people get away with being shitty right? Along as your not like them right? An qdeye for an eye would leave the whole world blind right. So it makes sense to just only have one guy miss his eye because revenge would be wrong. People change their hobbies, interests, clothes. Not shitty attitudes and behaviors. *
quack 2 points a year ago
This would only work if they made the connection between their shitty behaviour and their mortgage application being rejected years later, which they won’t. They won’t even know who rejected it.
Etterra 6 points a year ago
There's a mixing context though. If they're unapologetic (before needing something) about it? Fuck em. If they've made amends and then you just do happen to be in a position of power? _That's_when forgiveness is appropriate.
mycelium_underground 6 points a year ago
Animals forgive
KingPorkChop 5 points a year ago
Some people deserve forgiveness, some do not.
I think we all cheer because we interject the ones we know that do not deserve forgiveness.
camelbeard 2 points a year ago
Also this is against a former teacher, maybe he was a terrible kid and the teacher got mad at him for a reason.
Ranta 2 points a year ago
Probably less of an issue with a person's capability for forgiveness as much as the continuous tormenting of a child in their developmental stages will have a disproportionately heavy impact in their psyche.
The bullying may have also played a large role in building the bullied's sense of justice, and seizing on an opportunity to "do a solid" for that young defenseless and miserable child within you could go a long way to closing the circle on fundamental issues you have with the ability for any form of justice, civil or vigilante, to carry through and provide consequences.
Duamerthrax 2 points a year ago
I had my college plans plans ruined because of "uncooperative" guidance counselors. I recently found out that I actually tested advance proficient for science, but was refused higher then remedial classes. They didn't gain anything by doing that. I would absolutely "pass it forward."
Mpatch 5 points a year ago
How the fuck do you know that regardless of who was looking at the mortgage application they would have been rejected anyways due to not being able to meet the criteria? And op had the privilege of being the one who said no.
Now who thinks like a fucking child, you fucking dork.
melsaskca 0 points a year ago
Ouch. You blew up like an angry little child there, didn't you? Even name calling. Are you the banker guy? If you are, you think like a child because you take a perverse glee in seeing them not get their money, which you have the power of thumbs up or thumbs down like some cut rate Caesar. If you're not that banker guy then you are his protector and defender. Calm down and go play some Candyland and pretend that the teacher would not have qualified anyways.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie 4 points a year ago
Life is about the little things
vorlaut_boy 0 points a year ago
Someone was mean to me so i killed them - completely sane reaction.
MystikIncarnate 6 points a year ago
Aah yes. Because declining someone's mortgage application = literal murder.
/s
vorlaut_boy 8 points a year ago
have you heard of stylistic devices? this one is called exaggeration hyperbole.
InverseParallax 7 points a year ago
No, it's called hyperbole.
vorlaut_boy 5 points a year ago
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