Anyone who does a "buy gold" commercial is instantaneously persona non grata for me. Such a remarkable litmus test. Mike Rowe is one of them.
Who is a celebrity you used to really like, but don't anymore?
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apfelwoiSchoppen 29 points a year ago
jordanlund 12 points a year ago
Or the "Reverse Mortgage" scam. Looking at you Tom Selleck!
driving_crooner 17 points a year ago
In recent years, television personality Mike Rowe has amassed a wildly popular following due to alleged working-class straight talk about topics ranging from the affordability of college to reasserting a culture of pride in craftsmanship and labor. From his 5.2 million Facebook followers to his cable programs, his everyman schtick, on its surface, can be very appealing: after all, who doesn’t love a hard day’s work and loathe detached, ivory tower eggheads?
But hiding under his superficially appealing blue-collar façade is dangerous ideology, one funded by the Koch Brothers and other far-right, anti-labor corporate interests and specifically tailored to pick off a certain constituency of Home Depot Democrats while pushing political impotence, anti-union narratives and anti-intellectualism. Through a clever combination of working class affectation and folksy charm – often exploiting real fears about a decline in industrialization – Rowe has cultivated an image that claims to be pro-worker, but primarily exists to line the pockets of their boss.
Our guest is Street Fight Radio's Bryan Quinby.
FreakinSteve 4 points a year ago
Thats why EVERY SINGLE MENTION of "Soros!" has to be immediately responded with "Kochs"
Edit: fick thus gpddamn jryboard
Opinionhaver -12 points a year ago
I like him. He feels like one of the only podcast guests out there who actually acknowledges that not everyone works in an office or a startup.
CosmicTurtle0 21 points a year ago
Robert Evans from Behind the Bastards has the same attitude but with a political ideology that actually supports blue collar workers.
rob_t_firefly 3 points a year ago
*Robert Evans.
CosmicTurtle0 3 points a year ago
Thank you. Corrected.
BeardedGingerWonder 1 point a year ago
Evan?
FordBeeblebrox 102 points a year ago
Snoop Dogg. Black man playing songs at an orange man’s klan rally, at this point Martha Stewart is more gangster than he is.
By the same token, my respect for Kendrick went up 1000% after his halftime show.
Bebopalouie 26 points a year ago
Yup, coward has been in hiding since the first negative articles came out. Just another sad human showing his greed over what is right.
Hmm maybe there should be a new strain out there sold as Snoop Sellout Kush.
FordBeeblebrox 11 points a year ago
If I ran a grow op I’d name that strain and funnel the proceeds to help trans kids with counseling and support, just to point the middle finger directly at their latest boogeyman.
Shame since he’s been an icon for so long and helped a lot of kids with the football program, but I guess above a certain level of wealth the only religion you follow is money and everything else including morality is just an opportunity for profit.
Almacca 2 points a year ago
I'm ok with people shutting the fuck up and disappearing when they get called out for being arseholes. In fact, I wish more people were capable of that.
I must have missed the latest Snoop Drama, but don't bother to update me - I don't care about Snoop. He always struck me as a dude that's just constantly baked and will say yes to pretty much anything without too much scrutiny, so he can turn up pretty much ANYWHERE. That's bound to backfire eventually.
Kennystillalive 101 points a year ago
JK Rowling. Why can't she just shut up and write kids books?
Justdaveisfine 12 points a year ago
I'm pretty sure she still writes books.
Though she's been writing some Netflix animated series lately.
SchwertImStein 0 points a year ago
mormon propaganda
NigelFrobisher 1 point a year ago
I’m not sure who ever decided it was a good idea for celebrities to write their own brain garbage into social media accounts instead of having their media team handle it. It’s like how you’d never get Hollywood actors appears in a toilet roll advert until the ones they did in Japan got onto the web, and now it’s totally normalised for them to be undignified. I guess all of this coincided with the old star system being replaced by the primacy of IPs and endless “franchises”, where once the film poster used to just show Sandra Bullock and say “look, it’s Sandra Bullock you idiot” and that was enough.
hakunawazo 1 point a year ago
slaneesh_is_right 11 points a year ago
Will smith was a role model?
the_riviera_kid 12 points a year ago
.....and he used to be well respected, it's so weird to see what has become of him lately.
slaneesh_is_right 1 point a year ago
I is and was pretti insane in every interview i have ever seen after the prince of bel air, so idk.
KneeTitts 2 points a year ago
Will Smith because of what he did to Chris Rock
Honestly even now the whole things looks so staged, almost like they were planning for it to be some kind of inside joke and it went wrong?? I just dont get it, never will.
apfelwoiSchoppen 85 points a year ago
Neil Gaiman
QuoVadisHomines 24 points a year ago
If he wasn't preachy/performative about his "feminism" it wouldn't be as awful
Feminism is in quotes because IMO he doesn't believe what he preaches
kescusay 12 points a year ago
Yep. And to think I used to admire him. I've had some modest success as a published science fiction and fantasy writer, and I specifically cited him as inspiration for one of my published stories.
Wish I could take it back.
neukenindekeuken 6 points a year ago
He believes it, he just doesn't practice it.
Like most men in power, they use it as a way to get close to people they can assert their power or dominance over.
I think he believes he's actually a feminist. it's a subtle difference, but an important one. He genuinely believes he's a good guy and the things he does helps more women than it hurts.
That's why he's a piece of shit and so dangerous. He believes his own lies.
Dagwood222 13 points a year ago
Gaiman stole all his best stuff from Tanith Lee.
She takes all the Disney princesses and rewrites them as evil; Cinderella is a witch who drives the Prince insane and Snow White is a vampire.
starlinguk 22 points a year ago
She's not the only one to do that. Many people precede her, including Rice and Biegel. Same within the retelling of myths and legends. Writers have been doing that for decades. There's no need to make stuff up, he's a horrible person without made up nonsense.
Dagwood222 2 points a year ago
If you read her you'll see what I am talking about.
One good example. In her book 'Death's Master' she came up with hte idea that Death and Delusion were relatives. He expanded on that idea with The Sandman.
flamingo_pinyata 24 points a year ago
Wasn't really a fan as such, but I also though as far as billionaires go he's at least useful to humanity.
He should have kept to what he was good at - marketing big ideas. Unfortunately narcissists don't work that way.
JubilantJaguar -17 points a year ago
as far as billionaires go he’s at least useful to humanity.
There's a good argument that this is still true (PS: in historical terms) despite everything. Without China the green-tech revolution would be decades behind schedule, and it took Tesla to make China move.
JubilantJaguar -9 points a year ago
Really? So where are all its peer competitors? This person has obviously gone off the rails but was once extremely good at making seemingly impossible things happen.
remon 2 points a year ago
and it took Tesla to make China move.
Tesla maybe helped boosting Chinas EV industry ... but very little for green-tech in general. And EVs are not a particular green or revolutionary technology in the first place.
So no, I don't think he did much for humanity here.
partial_accumen 3 points a year ago
And EVs are not a particular green or revolutionary technology in the first place.
I think most agree that, at least, EVs are needed to evolve away from the CO2 generated from petroleum consumption used in cars and trucks. Yes yes, "public transportation better for moving people" but that doesn't work for all countries especially those with lower density population areas. Further "public transporation" does nothing for the "last mile" delivery of goods with regard to logistics.
In almost every situation an EV is better than an ICE vehicle in respect to being "green" and vehicles are what our current systems are designed around.
MagicShel 1 point a year ago
I agree that Ellen was significant in the race to EVs, but that is definitely in the past. As far as present tense goes, nah.
The tenses are a bit murky "I used to think 'he's useful...'" "this still true..." could kinda go either way, but it sounds like you're saying it applies today, and nah.
JubilantJaguar 5 points a year ago
Just read what I write, rather than what you think I might be trying to say.
I can't find it now but there was an analysis a few days ago by a reputable source, maybe in The Atlantic, which said basically what I just said. It's not scandalous. The guy has an impressive record as a business leader. Perhaps not as a product specialist, or even an engineer, but as force for making things happen at the company level.
Anyway, apparently there's not much willingness to engage in nuanced debate here so that's all I have to say.
frenchfryenjoyer 11 points a year ago
Never been a Musk fan but I remember on Reddit everyone was calling him the "nerd king" who would change the world
rumschlumpel 17 points a year ago
And he did change the world. To the worse.
frenchfryenjoyer 6 points a year ago
fr with how much stuff he's fucked up so fast it has to be a record of some sort
slaneesh_is_right 14 points a year ago
I'll never forget the chill that ran down my spine when that thing with these cave kids happend in Thailand, and some random guy tweeted him: pleas mr. Musk, you are the closest thing we have to tony stark, help them. I felt genuinely disgusted.
FordBeeblebrox 5 points a year ago
Watching the SpaceX engineers transform those pods overnight really highlighted the fact that all he does is talk until other, more capable people actually make it happen. They probably could have been quite helpful had he not got in the way with his tantrums.
thermal_shock 3 points a year ago
We had hope then
BarneyPiccolo 3 points a year ago
Yeah, that thing with the Thai soccer team really opened my eyes. Later, I saw a documentary on the situation, and there was no way that his submarine idea could have worked, it simply would not have fit.
But rather than accept that those on the scene were more knowledgeable about the situation, he immediately jumped to calling the rescuers pedos, as if the only reason they wanted to rescue them was because they were young boys, and wanted to molest them. What an unhinged take, proving that he was more interested in playing the hero and feeding his ego, than actually rescuing anyone. He saw an opportunity for global promotion, and was pissed when it was denied to him.
It showed me a side that we hadn't seen before, but turned out to be his real personality.
JacksonLamb 1 point a year ago
What an unhinged take, proving that he was more interested in playing the hero and feeding his ego, than actually rescuing anyone.
Worse, it showed he couldn't get his head around anyone else genuinely wanting to save children from dying. That was mask-off for his sociopathy.
Canopyflyer 17 points a year ago
My family had "The Best of Bill Cosby" album when I was a kid and we listened to it a lot. Some of the funniest bits on that album and I always had warm memories sitting and listening to them.
Then it comes out that he's a complete monster. All those family memories tied to that now, it really sucks.
GeeDubHayduke 64 points a year ago
American Beauty got me to like Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey got me to stop liking Kevin Spacey.
E: mother ducking autocorrupt
nagaram 51 points a year ago
It's not a Lemmy thread without some Star Trek references
Robert Beltran (Chakotey), Roxan Dawson (B'Elanna), and Manu Intiravmi (Icheb).
All three of these actors fell off after ST:Voyager and became vile conservative shit posters. I know Robert especially likes to respond to anti Trump or anti Trump Policy tweets the other ex cast members make with "both sides" arguments.
It's sad in my eyes, but I do hold ST on a pretty high pedestal.
thermal_shock 12 points a year ago
Add the chick from season 1 of the mandelorian. She's super gross and trumpy.
Lianodel 6 points a year ago
It's extremely funny that she ruined her own career, including a likely spin-off starring her, because she wouldn't stop comparing the criticism of conservatives and their beliefs to the mass persecution and murder of Jews during the Holocaust.
It's also extremely funny that she went on to make a movie with The Daily Wire, no one saw it, it got called woke for being an action movie starring a woman.
To top that off, it's also extremely funny that The Daily Wire is FULL of people who couldn't cut it in Hollywood, so they kept self-financing their own shitty movies, and are now in financial trouble.
FreakinSteve 7 points a year ago
Her movie grossed $7.00
That's SEVEN DOLLARS
And nobody in this thread remembers her name lol
Critical Drinker and his entourage can fuck off
thermal_shock 3 points a year ago
Same
FordBeeblebrox 2 points a year ago
I thought the same when she’s chewing the match in Deadpool but then found that out and just kept rooting for Mando to discover she’s a spy and space her but they just wrote her out
Modern_medicine_isnt 2 points a year ago
She's still hot. And I bet some people find her hotter because she is clearly stupid too. Lol.
RampantParanoia2365 4 points a year ago
Well, I always kind of hated Beltran as an actor. Really disappointed about the other 2 though, I had no idea.
Edit: I'm not seeing anything whatsoever on Google about Dawson related to Trump or even the Republicans, aside from one single Reddit post with a similar comment.
wanderwisley 50 points a year ago
Dave Chappelle and Dwayne Johnson.
thermal_shock 8 points a year ago
Why the rock?
wanderwisley 22 points a year ago
Look up his interview he did on Fox News last year. He basically blamed black people for there current situation in themselves and also said that Biden was a terrible president and he didn’t outright endorse Trump but he danced around it.
SCmSTR 3 points a year ago
Awww maaaaaannnn..... Tsk really? That sucks.
Edit, from Wikipedia:
As part of WWE's non-partisan "Smackdown Your Vote" campaign aiming to encourage young people to vote,[405] Johnson had a speaking role at the 2000 Republican National Convention[406] and attended the 2000 Democratic National Convention less than two weeks later.[407]
Johnson voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012,[276] but did not vote in 2016,[408] and was an independent voter as of 2017.[409] He endorsed Joe Biden in 2020,[410] but told Fox News in an April 2024 interview that he regretted the decision due to it causing "division" and refused to endorse anyone in 2024.[411]
Imo not good, but definitely nuanced and probably not great. I didn't see the interview though so I don't know.
BarneyPiccolo 5 points a year ago
He's trying to stay independent because he fantasizes about running for president one day. He even did a TV show where the framing device was him being interviewed as a presidential candidate, so they could show his life in flashbacks. It was an obvious ploy to position him as a legitimate political candidate in viewers' minds.
Every rich and/or famous person now thinks they should be president.
KneeTitts 8 points a year ago
Why the rock?
I believe he refused to endorse Kamala and then like a true coward said he was keeping his political views private, its was pretty sad. The pathetic coward was terrified of a maga boycott of his garbage movies.
LostGurl 4 points a year ago
Also of his volunteering with Oprah in Hawaii with the huge fire. Weird seeing humans that have exorbitant amount of money that can actually help, and they're just passing out water bottles to the people that lost their homes saying that "they wish they could do more to help/hope things work out for them." It was a publicity stunt at the expense of people who lost everything.
Ledericas 3 points a year ago
hes also a very difficult actor to work with in the industry, hes known as the "ellen degeneres" of male actors. must have as much if not more attention as the lead in a movie, or as much action or more action than other people. also hes pretty much attention seeker, and people compared him to dave bautista, dave is actor, and he only wanted the glory of a movie star.
untakenusername 47 points a year ago
musk
There was a time when SpaceX and Tesla seemed like they were gonna change the world for the better, less co2, going to Mars and he even gave a few talks at astronomy events where he spoke about how carbon capture on Mars could be used to make rocket fuel (which is real and has been done btw) and bring starship rockets back, and how that same tech could be used on earth to help fight global warming. The future was gonna be amazing and I honestly believed he was gonna help make it happen
there's a real reason marvel had him in iron man 2
Soapbox 7 points a year ago
Yeah, I was never a true believer or fanboy, but back before he lost his mind and fired his PR department, I was cool with the electric cars, space exploration, solar roofs, trains, and even fun flamethrowers.
pineapplelover 2 points a year ago
Honestly thought there were gonna be downvotes on this one about people saying how Elon never invented anything or founded anything and it was all a persona. I believed it though and all that climate change stuff I thought was genuine.
untakenusername 1 point a year ago
Honestly thought there were gonna be downvotes on this one
same but I still wanted to say it. ngl I kinda believe a lot of people base their opinion of what someone is saying just off the upvote/downvotes ratio without thinking about it as much as they could, so the upvotes on this one may have been caused by the first few people seeing it agreeing with it
miss_demeanour 41 points a year ago
It goes back aways, but Dennis Miller went from borderline "edgy" to complete wimp and GW simp after 9/11.
Total 180
remon 46 points a year ago
Mostly how he threw Kyle Gass under the bus over his Trump joke, cancelling the entire tour as well. Just so he can keep his trashy movie career going? Also he is in way too much stuff. Jack Black just doesn't belong in Star Wars or Lord of the Rings ... even when it's just fan fiction.
SayJess 23 points a year ago
Just read up on the trump comment. I understand Jack has this family friendly persona that he likes to keep. I don’t agree with cancelling the tour and putting creative plans on hold. But I can understand why he’d be instantly on damage control.
I share the same sentiment as Kyle. I really was saddened that the guy missed.
wizardbeard 22 points a year ago
I really don't get the family persona bit here. Yes, it's "a thing", but this happened at a Tenacious D concert. His definitively not child friendly persona singing songs like "Fuck her gently".
thermal_shock 13 points a year ago
He basically defended trump when his music partner made a joke.
the_riviera_kid 8 points a year ago
jack black has always been a cringey loser, I'm glad the rest of the world is finally waking up to it.
GeeDubHayduke 4 points a year ago
Fucking THANK YOU. I never got the hype.
the_riviera_kid 2 points a year ago
The only thing I ever liked him in was The Jackal that scene was so cathartic.
GeeDubHayduke 0 points a year ago
If he got violently dismembered more often, i might like him more. I usually think of him kicking Baxter off an overpass in Anchorman, as a default.
thermal_shock 1 point a year ago
I could only tolerate him in Airborne (1993), one of my all time favorite movies. I'm not gay, but Shane McDermott...
And the girl, Brittney Powell, pretty hot. Movie had a lot of younger actors before they went big. Seth green, Alanna ubach, jack black.
Orange county (2002) also, kinda forgot he was in that.
Nacho libre is sort of tolerable, but not because of him.
Almacca 0 points a year ago
I still reckon his only really good non-Tenacious D work was Nacho Libre. Everything else has been a load of saccharine nonsense. Even Nacho is kinda saccharine, but it at least has a whacky style to it. "Chancho, when you are a man, sometimes you wear stretchy pants in your room. Just for fun."
BroBot9000 5 points a year ago
Came here to say that.
expatriado 5 points a year ago
why he isn't liked anymore?
vaguerant 37 points a year ago
His Tenacious D bandmate, Kyle Gass, made a joke about assassinating Donald Trump. Black put out a statement criticizing and distancing himself from Gass while also placing the band on hiatus, cancelling a then-ongoing world tour. People feel he threw a longtime friend under the bus in order to protect his public image.
QuoVadisHomines 14 points a year ago
Alternate theory: Jack understands that bad press impacts the movies he works on and that hundreds to thousands of people depend on those movies doing well. It sucks he did this but as an adult whose actions could have a negative impact on my co-workers incomes I get it
MagicShel -4 points a year ago
I get why someone would lose respect for him over that, but he's a celeb who's cultivated a wholesome kid-oriented image of inclusivity rather than culture warrior. He's in the "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar" camp which is probably where folks like Fred Roger's would be were he here today.
So I guess I didn't expect much more from him, but I'm also not a huge fan or anything, just enjoy his work, so I'm not in a position to really be disappointed in him.
Opinionhaver 2 points a year ago
I never liked him. Not for any particular reason really. It's just the vibe I'm getting from him. He doesn't seem authentic.
frenchfryenjoyer 1 point a year ago
Same, loved him when i was little
Jhex 34 points a year ago
why do you people love celebrities so much?
if someone handles a ball nicely, writes a book, sings a song or plays guitar, like them for that and stop assuming they must also be wise in family advice or politically savvy
normalexit 17 points a year ago
You have to be incredibly good at something for me to ignore you being an asshole. There are also certain things that are unforgivable even if the art is good.
It's like Cosby was funny, but he drugged and raped people, so it's hard to laugh at him now.
Jhex 0 points a year ago
Absolutely, but I think you misunderstood me...
Let's pretend for a moment Cosby is not a rapist; why do anyone infer that, because his comedy was good, he would be a good role model or have savvy life advice to give or know about politics, etc?
I completely agree with you that it's is almost impossible to enjoy whatever celebrities do (art, sports, etc) if they are horrible people. however, that line is subjective. Many would still like Cosby if we had found out he does not donate to charity or even if he is an absent dad or if he were a terrible driver... obviously the rapist thing goes too far
FreakinSteve 14 points a year ago
I'm gonna be the first akshually here and point out that Cosby is a bad example because he DID present himself as a guiding voice and role model and came to fame by creating a cartoon showing inner city kids how to be good to each other and handle life issues.
normalexit 3 points a year ago
It really comes down to the calculus of how much I like them vs what did they actually do (with some things being truly unforgivable).
For example, Sylvester Stallone recently came out in big support of Trump. To me, that makes him a huge ass. That said, I'll still watch Rocky 4 if it comes on (all the while, in the back of my head thinking "wow, really, Trump.. that's your guy?"). So my perception of him and his movies change, but also it's his right to be an idiot.
In the same vein, Rob Schneider has recently made his whole personality a bitter old conservative "comic'. He really brings little of value to the table, so he can easily be dismissed. His value/drama ratio isn't worth giving him the time of day -- we'll outside of this example.
I can't totally divorce the person from their content, but I try when their stuff is great and what they did isn't too repulsive.
LavaPlanet 3 points a year ago
After hearing from Robs daughter how she was treated and what he was / is like as a person, I can't like anything he did, and it all comes across narcissistic and creepy from that viewpoint. It's like a game of power but with a curse. (whatever that game is really called,)
Ledericas 1 point a year ago
seinfeld is like rob,"why arnt you laughing at my jokes, are you all woke" no because you support israel government, and your wife is currently funding state side groups.
Delphia 1 point a year ago
I also throw into the equation "How much time has passed?"
I'm no massive fan but Mark Wahlberg is a good example, dude was a straight up violent racist asshole when he was young but the last thing was in 1992. I just cant bring myself to be mad at a 54yo for something he did 23 years ago.
Smoogs 1 point a year ago
Speak for yourself.
People can decide for themselves on what their standards are and what integrity means.
As it should. It’s part of how a person learns independent thought and critical thinking.
You’ve made your choice. Now Leave people to their’s.
Soapbox 32 points a year ago
Chuck Norris.
As a kid growing up in Texas in the 90s, Walker Texas Ranger was cool. Early internet memes about him were hilarious.
Then he said if he were elected president he would "Tattoo an American flag with the words, "In God we trust," on the forehead of every atheist."
Ever since I've been the killjoy, saying "fuck Chuck Norris" to anyone making a Chuck Norris is tough joke.
Ledericas 14 points a year ago
jackien chan, he went SHILLING FOR THE CCP sometime ago, and was ousted from HK film industry for that, and he couldnt even make it as a party member. i saw him making news again because he was in cobra kai, that isnt going to save his fame. also abandoned one of his daughters in canada with no money,.
FordBeeblebrox 13 points a year ago
Same deal with Steven Seagal, used to think he was a badass. Now the shitbag is clinking glasses with Putin and can totally still beat up multiple stuntmen.
You know who actually was a badass and didn’t say a goddamn word about it? Bob Ross. Most people don’t even know he spent years in an Air Force uniform before painting those happy little trees and trying to bring some joy to people.
Smoogs 2 points a year ago
I can’t even remember the last time someone said a chuck Norris joke…oh yeah it all died suddenly when he came out as an ultra Christian and revealed he didn’t understand how jokes work. He started correcting people that his tears do not actually cure cancer.
I think MySpace was still a thing back then.
What a bizarre moment that was.
spirinolas 31 points a year ago
Dave Chapelle
BigBananaDealer 4 points a year ago
his early podcast with kevin smith was hilarious because at one point kevin smith stands up to stretch his legs and he was so high he forgot to sit back down
thisisnotmyhat 2 points a year ago
Dick pills and Fleshlights forever!
tigeruppercut 12 points a year ago
Tooooo CHALLENGING for you?!
KneeTitts 4 points a year ago
Ricky Gervais.
Liked him ~ The Office, Extras
Seems to me his shtick got old right around the time "Lifes too Short" came out, that show started out with a few funny gags but by the end of it I was seriously stuck that this entire show was them making fun of a little person for no good reason.
JacksonLamb 4 points a year ago
At some point I realised his "ironic" depictions aren't ironic at all, he genuinely is just an average bigot who likes punching down.
The only difference between him and some racist sexist ableist playground bully from the 1950s is Gervais has managed to convince a swathe of people that is ironic and edgy somehow.
firipu 25 points a year ago
I was a big fan of the superman portrayal of Dean Cain. Turns out the shit bag is as far away from the ethos of superman as you can be. Fuck him for staining a childhood favorite portrayal of one of my favo characters.
Ledericas 5 points a year ago
so many actors became looney christians and or right wing after series of strokes. sorbo is another, and jim cavaziel. Mel became one after he made real antisemitic remarks(and apologized ina condescending way).
i think another one is the shazam guy, the actor hes a scientologist?
Gaspar 5 points a year ago
the shazam guy
Ugh, don't remind me. Zachary Levi broke my heart. Arcade Gannon was one of my favorite F:NV companions, too. At least there's still Felicia Day and Danny Trejo.
Another disappointment to hear about was Michael Peña (Luis from Ant Man).
Ledericas 0 points a year ago
also the barts VA, she became a wierdo trying to convince people into scientology in her bart voice. Cartright. remember pat kilbaine of madtv? if you follow SEALs, he had a wierd jealousy issue he wasnt getting paid by the SEAL podcast 10years ago, if you know who chris kyle is the famous sniper. they had an issue with him. pat decided to sue them for breaching "his contract".
gary sinese is another one, he conveniently came out as republican(even though we already suspected he was one, come on your taking on roles the same as pratt, always authotarian roles in movies/shows), and at the same time virtue signalling for vets just because 1 time he visited a vet hospital and he feels like part of the vet community, as if you actually care for them, your just a republican version of bill gates for vets. last year before the election, in order to drum up support for trump and i suspect because the anti-VA stance is hurting the gop. people were calling him out why he isnt denoucing the gop for slashing va funds. unlike jon stewart who has been calling them out for quite some time and supporting the vets. he was overtaking certain subs he was posting in(gary). gary gave an interview why he left acting, no we know why, not because it was your son. but because your republican beliefs wouldve rubbed people the wrong way down the line your just saving face.
and i saw gary doing AMA and pics on a strangely regular schedule on reddit recently. a comparison would ALec baldwins wife, hilaria(who acts like shes been spanish because she lived for a few years).
Akasazh 21 points a year ago
Roger Taylor and Brian May from Queen. Not due to them being overt assholes, but about how the treated the cinematic legacy of Freddy Mercury.
The blocked a movie idea with Sasha Baron Cohen playing Freddie in his flamboyant, over the top lifestyle as they wanted it to be 'more about the band' and they wanted Freddies death to be the middle part of the story, where the last half was them two (as Roger Deacon had walked away from them) protecting Freddies legacy.
I mean, the reason people loved Freddie was over his larger than life persona, and I'm convinced Cohen could've struck the note between the over-the-top, the fabulous and the pesonal Freddie.
Instead we got BoRep, which was an awful movie with a polished up storyline and danger free scenes. Also it was horribly edited.
I must say, they haven't done horrible stuff, they are decent individuals. But they got their succes out of working with Freddie yet they fail to see why everybody was so enchanted by Freddie and not so much by themselves.
starlinguk -4 points a year ago
They do not fit this thread.
FordBeeblebrox 6 points a year ago
Members of one of the most famous bands in the world, yeah they fit the thread, and you took the extra time to detail why. I dislike them for the same reason, and it was a well written post 👍
thermal_shock 9 points a year ago
What'd he do?
neukenindekeuken 10 points a year ago
But he despises trump, so at the moment, enemy of my enemy...
Semjaza 19 points a year ago
Ashamed to admit I was once (pre-Sachs phone call) at least intrigued and open to the idea of liking the noted sex pest and abuser Russell Brad. Stuff has continued to get worse.
Had been a fan of Kevin Spacey, too.
Gaga and P!nk have also gone done in my estimations somewhat, but unlike everyone else no serious reason for it.
Obligatory Gaiman and JK Rowling, too.
Edit: oh, and Luis Scott Vargas. Abandoned his pregnant wife for someone else, and started shilling crypto. 😵🤷🏼🙆🏾♂️
FordBeeblebrox 8 points a year ago
A comedian called Brendan Burns said “he looks like the personification of hepatitis” in a special and I hear that every time I see Russell
normalexit 18 points a year ago
Kevin Spacey. Bill Cosby. Danny Masterson. Steven Tyler. Anthony Kedis.
They are all gross now that I know more about them; some moreso than others.
FreakinSteve 4 points a year ago
To be fair, RHCP has never been more than 75% awesome
normalexit 2 points a year ago
Yeah honestly I debated putting that one in. Under the Bridge is a solid song, and flea and the drummer are independently good.
Honestly just wanted to remind people he admitted to dating a 16 year old when he was 24.
Delphia 2 points a year ago
I kind of feel for people who were close with people who were outed as sex offenders, because they didnt come in on monday "Hey, Danny! How was your weekend?" "Bro I spiked a girls drink and raped her in my car, it was awesome." I worked with a guy for years, his daughter had "issues" and then one day it came out that he was a sexual abuser of his own daughter. Which explained her mental health issues. In that case he quit his job, got his affairs in order and pled guilty. But I still remember thinking he was a great guy, until he wasnt... now I'm going to find it really hard to not pop his nose out the back of his fucking head if I ever run into him again.
Now throw in the potential "attention seeking" behaviors that could happen with famous people, people hoping for a payout, jilted exes and someone you have known for years swearing up and down they didnt do it... Id want to support my friend too.
Smoogs 1 point a year ago
manipulators can be either party though. You have the manipulators swearing they didnt do it and you have the manipulators trying to extort.
You also have people who don’t understand what they did was rape and while they claim they didnt rape: the details are exactly that.
And often rapists are more believed over a rape victim.
Hence why it often takes multiple victims for a rape charge.
Also false accusation is not the same as inconclusive.
Lots of nuance.
Delphia 1 point a year ago
Yeah, its rare that its definitively proven either way. I'm saying that I dont blame people for wanting to believe their friends and family are innocent when accused of rape famous or not.
waz 2 points a year ago
For me Bill Cosby was not surprising. Danny Masterson was disappointing. I havent yet heard what Steven Tyler or Kevin Spacey did and now I'm afraid to Google it. I have no idea who Anthony Kiedis is.
...just looked them all up...sigh, yeah. I'm with you. It does make it impossible to appreciate the art with that knowledge.
SereneSadie -1 points a year ago
I feel like I'm the only one who was always creeper out by Kevin Spacey. American Beauty just seemed like blatant confirmation he was no good to me.
Justdaveisfine 16 points a year ago
I got about a dozen YouTubers and streamers that fit in this box.
It seems to be inevitable. They either stop posting or streaming, or they reveal themselves to be kind of messed up.
thermal_shock 2 points a year ago
Anyone with colored hair that screams at the camera in their face is banned from my network. Can't subject my kid to that trash.
Interstellar_1 2 points a year ago
Iskall85 for me.
ChairmanMeow 2 points a year ago
I hate that I'm pretty sure I know who you're referring to.
ChairmanMeow 2 points a year ago
Sad indeed, it really sours it.
Smoogs 2 points a year ago
Don’t leave out how weird she started acting. Like it was 10 minutes but she acted like she was on shrooms and then her music got fucking weird as did her dancing and videos.
It’s like she forgot how to be an artist and started acting like an amateur romping around in some basement.
Maybe she’s dug into Elon’s stash.
jordanlund 14 points a year ago
Kevin Spacey
SereneSadie 10 points a year ago
Kelsey Grammer.
I still can't believe he's riding the Trump train, and is returning as Beast for the new Marvel films at the same time. The cognitive dissonance is confounding me.
FanciestPants 8 points a year ago
Adding Louis CK to the list. I used to like his shows, and genuinely found the writing and his takes to be thoughtful and helpful. Finding out he was gross and shitty the whole time sucked.
LordGimp 6 points a year ago
I never understood this take. Like, did you not actually listen to the shit he said when you "liked" his shows? Did you not see the skit where he went on a morning interview and told his female interviewer that he was going to jerk off to her later and there was nothing she could do about it? If so, how was it actually surprising to hear he jerked off infront of a female coworker after he told her he was going to do it? You can separate the art from the artist all you want, but at some point you have to realize that all that art came from somewhere.
FreakinSteve 10 points a year ago
I believe that skit was about christofascist suppression of masturbation so it was appropriate at the time. The interviewer was surnamed "Fapper".
Hugin 6 points a year ago
A lot of his humor was based on things you want to do but don't. So exploring dark desires that you should not act on is reasonable for comedy. Then it comes out that he did some of that stuff and it's not funny anymore.
FanciestPants 2 points a year ago
I didn't see that skit.
Ledericas -1 points a year ago
hes it disappointing he had the foreknowledge to shield his "cancellation" by moving it all online shows. he pratically came back amonsgt conservatives people and men who dint know his past history.
EtnaAtsume 7 points a year ago
Billy Corgan!
EtnaAtsume 4 points a year ago
He got researched by me.
QuoVadisHomines 3 points a year ago
Shit talk his band after the second album?
apfelwoiSchoppen 11 points a year ago
He's also a self-described "free-market libertarian capitalist" who has been willingly interviewed on InfoWars.
NigelFrobisher 7 points a year ago
Warren Ellis, though his forum looked super cult-like even at the time. He seemed like one of the good guys.
Bruncvik 1 point a year ago
I don't follow other people's private activities, but this one hurt a lot. He remains one of my favourite authors, and having him disappear from publishing leaves holes in my library (Trees and Injection, in particular).
dil 7 points a year ago
Sarah Silverman, said the palestinian babies need to die because theyll grow up to be terrorists then turned off comments for a year on ig, she said more than that had a whole tirade, ruined her. Shes back now pretending she didnt say anything, pr team put in work. My post on her reddit got deleted so I stopped caring about telling ppl, but this made me remember.
Melatonin 7 points a year ago
Tobey Maguire, "the worst tipper, the best player, and the absolute worst loser."
Read More: https://www.looper.com/...
ILikeTraaaains 6 points a year ago
Carlos Sobera, a really great TV host in Spain, with the boom of sport betting websites and almost no regulations on the ads, he became the face of one of those websites with very aggressive tactics.
He also started to appear on ads for a payday loan company.
So he was promoting gambling and high interest small loans that are used by gambling adicts.
TempermentalAnomaly 3 points a year ago
Mamet went full MAGA
NigelFrobisher 1 point a year ago
Kind of makes you wonder if he understood his own plays, right?
QuoVadisHomines 3 points a year ago
Brad Pitt seemed cool at one point then he got his first divorce.
baggachipz 13 points a year ago
A divorce is grounds for disliking somebody?
HowAbt2day 19 points a year ago
He divorced the posters mom, so yeah, in this case it makes sense. He’d also come home late and eat all of the posters yogurts. That’s fucked up.
QuoVadisHomines 15 points a year ago
Brad Pitt is an abusive partner. Jennifer Anniston suggested as much quietly post-divorce and Jolie and their children have clearly stated as much.
baggachipz 4 points a year ago
I want Brad Pitt to eat my yogurts, and I’m not even gay :(
QuoVadisHomines 12 points a year ago
In the wake of his divorce there were a handful of comments from Jennifer Anniston that suggested he was abusive. This has since been backed up by his last wife and several of his kids.
systemglitch 2 points a year ago
Too long a list.
CyanideShotInjection 4 points a year ago
He autographed bombs the IDF were planning to drop on Palestine. He even posted a photo of himself doing it.
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Dagwood222 3 points a year ago
I have to give him his due. I just saw him playing a rich asshole in three different shows and he played them all differently. That's good acting.
blargbluuk 3 points a year ago
Why?
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Opinionhaver 1 point a year ago
He's hardly a celebrity but I'd say Van Neistat (Casey's brother)
I was all in when he started his YouTube channel and found him really relatabe and interesting but it took less than half a year and it became painfully obvious that he's only doing it for the money and it shows. That's about the fastest I've gone from discovering a new interesting person to losing my respect for them.
SchwertImStein -1 points a year ago
there is something about celebrity worship to be inferred from the fact that there is only 1 non-american celebrity listed in this tgread (spanish news anchor).
that or it is selection bias
wildcardology 1 point a year ago
I don't exactly follow him but why? I've never heard anything controversial he did.
David_Eight 1 point a year ago
I think people here are taking OPs question a little bit to seriously and Kevin Smith is 100% a valid answer. The question was about someone you "liked" and don't "like" now. Not, who turned out to be a horrible person.
Kevin Smith hasn't done anything controversial and genuinely seems like a nice man enjoying life and good for him. But, artisticly his movies have fallen off considerably in my opinion and lack any effort/message. Personality wise he's also made a major shift. Previously being more thoughtful and critical of things to now kind of just gone full "happy stoner shill".
As someone who grew up in 90s New Jersey Kevin Smiths and his early work will always hold a special place in my heart but I'll probably never watch anything new he'll ever make the rest of my life.
Nollij 1 point a year ago
Not OP, but mildly controversial was his movie Red State. It was a not-so-subtle take on the Westboro Baptist Church and their stance on gays.
Or maybe they're still upset about Jersey Girl, which was way too common and wholesome for the guy behind Jay and Silent Bob.
(Hot take: if Jersey Girl didn't have Smith or Carlin, it would've been mildly praised at the time and then mostly forgotten)
boaratio -10 points a year ago
I've gotten into arguments with friends about this, but decades ago I stayed home from work sick and watched his Netflix special about how he got kicked off a Southwest flight for being too fat. I was raised religious and have evolved my thoughts over the years, but his parents were in a audience, and he said some of the most crass shit I've ever heard. My parents would've washed my mouth out with soap if I said what he said. I understand overall he's very generous, but seeing his special left a bad taste in my mouth.
Plus, jorts.
NigelFrobisher 6 points a year ago
They’re not jorts anymore if they go to the ankle. Whatever they are, they’re a sartorial disaster.
wildcardology 2 points a year ago
Ok, so it's just the usual Kevin.
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