So, like, I get your point and all, but think of this: American will be less brown! We're cutting our nose to whiten our face!

-MAGA

They won't be getting a 1000 dollars, but they will get a free flight to the nearest concentration camp. It's a trap.

Definitely sounds like a trap.

(What follows is a slightly unrelated anecdote.) I knew a guy who was a tax preparer back in 2009 when Obama put out the “Making Work Pay” stimulus. You basically got a tax refund of like $400 per person if you met a pretty lenient criteria.

Well, my buddy told me that during the 2009 tax season, he would constantly have people coming into his office trying to file taxes, but they hadn’t filed in a few years. After hours of getting their paperwork together and running through the tax schedules for each year, the tax payer would find out that they owed thousands of dollars in back payments. Rather than file their taxes and paying the delinquent taxes, they would just say “yeah, all I wanted was the $400” and just walk out.

I’m sure the IRS cleaned up that year if anyone who owed was bold enough to actually file.

So we the people are giving them (allegedly) $1000 instead of the multiple thousands that they could have produced for the economy.

sigh. the world is significantly more complicated than that

The people are dissatisfied economically, and that's why they voted for Trump.

So, what determines people's income? Wages on the free labor market are determined through supply and demand.

When there's a lot of supply of labor, i.e when there's many people who could work in the country, high supply lowers prices. Prices for labor are also called wages. High number of people in the country --> lower wages. That's where the "immigrants are taking our jobs" saying comes from. The point is not only that they're taking jobs, but also that wages drop if there's more supply in labor power.

(What these republican jackasses forget to mention is that this also affects the birth rate. A lower birth rate is good for the people because it means less supply of labor power --> higher wages in the future. Yet the republicans are consistently for a higher birth rate, which makes their whole point that they actually care about the economic situation of the people inconsistent.)

What these republican jackasses also forget to mention is that it's not only about the supply of labor, but also the demand of labor. Higher demand means higher wages, and lower demand means lower wages.

Now, if you've ever built a house you will know that the vast majority of labor requirement goes into building the house, not maintaining it. The same is true for the economy. The economy grew rapidly in the last 200 years mostly because of technological inventions, which lead to a lot of real growth in the world and that created a large demand for human labor, which made wages rise high, which is why people could live comfortably in the 1960s on a single wage income per family.

The economy slowed down growth a lot in the last decades (+0.5% annually in 2019 compared to +3% in 1990) so that reduces the demand for human labor drastically. That's why people earn less today than last century. If the republicans were honest, they'd recognize that fact, and they would respond by saying "ok, the free labor market doesn't pay enough wages anymore to feed the people, so we need to help the people by giving them a universal basic income, financed by taxing the rich". That would do significantly more to help the people than deporting immigrants, by the way, it would help at least 10x as much. That the republicans completely ignore this and don't even speak about it shows that they are dishonest and do not have the people's best interest at heart.

Prizes, you say?

I’m wondering if citizens will start self deporting.

The wording sounds like you need to be in the US without legal status. Think it's like 90 days is the shortest allowed for vacation/business travel before your "illegal". ~$11 a day is hardly worth the effort. You're better off sneaking in and immediately self-deport.

I live in MN and have been getting calls stating that, “I need to come in to verify my papers and ensure I am a legit citizen”… I get these calls numerous times a day, starts in English and then goes strait to Mandarin and I don’t even fucking speak that! (9-10 a day).

I was born here by an American woman, who was also BORN here and a dad who came here LEGALLY with a SPONSOR and an American citizen and still am getting these bogus ass calls! I speak Cantonese and Spanish on top of English so hopefully they would send me back to my dads fam in South Vietnam but if not, I would be killed in north Vietnam due to my name and the war… so lovely… (back in the day I would be killed now I would just be shunned).

I am about to hop the boarder and try to get in to see what happens and then just live in Canada, I basically am already there here in MN! Haha!

Hey smuggle in some of that sweet sweet fentanyl to boost your profits

Dev here, checking exploit.

...

Yeah, there's no money so there's no issue. WAD

YUP

it’s because the point is to both intimidate victims and also get nazis horny.

While I'm not 100% on it being a trap, we're in an unprecedented "the cruelty is the point" era that we've never really faced before. If someone I knew was considering calling the line, I would do everything I could to prevent them from trying it.

I was thinking more or less the same thing - if you are here illegally it's probably both cheaper and easier to pay you $1k per person and a free flight back whence you came than to track you down, go through the legal process, and remove you against your will.

My parents believe that democrats are giving "illegal" immigrants welfare.

We are a family of legal documented immigrants, there were barely any benefits for us (especially not the first 5 years), and anything that you could get is means tested and you need all your legal documents ready. Like wtf how do you expect undocumented immigrants of getting any welfare, wtf.

(No they do not watch fox news, its some news account thing that they follow on WeChat.)

And I’m brown enough I’m sure I could be confused as being “Mexican”.

I have two half-Thai, half-white cousins. One of them looks vaguely Mexican / Latin American and the other looks Japanese, and they got lots of shit for that growing up in Florida. Fortunately, that experience really taught them to respect and value immigrants and non-white people.

Just kidding -- they're actually hard-core white-supremacists and trumpers. The only reason trump isn't their favorite person of all time is that they like DeSantis even better.

The info you gave to apply for this is sent to ICE and they show up at your house

Do you have enough melanin to be eligible though ?

Go to the website and find out

As European you should be aware that this idea has been used in countries here. German and Swedish approaches have already been posted, and here is another: Austria offers Syrian refugees 1,000 euros to return home.

As "Europeans" we need to get off our high horse and stop pretending we do things better.

Germany actually has a similar program: https://www.returningfromgermany.de/...

Really? Swedish government:

[G]rants may be paid in the amount of SEK 350,000 for those who have reached the age of 18 and SEK 25,000 for those who have not reached the age of 18, but not more than SEK 500,000 for spouses or cohabitants and not more than SEK 600,000 per family

https://www.regeringen.se/...

So that is a litte less that 35,000 USD (after this proposed increase). This is liberal politics in Sweden.

Also to note, the first statement from the minister there in that link, Johan Forssell, his son is active club neonazi. He is still in the party and a Swedish minister. That, and how his party is collaborating with a full party of "ex" neonazis, is how far separated our governments are from nazis in Europe.

Depends what we mean by real. Kristi Noem is doing television commercials for this.

Do they really give you the $1000 and a free flight? I don’t know if that’s real. The free flight might take you somewhere you were not intending to go.

I was just in LAX the other day and saw one of these signs in the security line. I can confirm with my own eyes that the sign is real.

Honestly, knowing the administration is hiring ICE agents at 100k+ starting salaries (for context, you generally have to be pretty late in a professional career with a multi-page resume to be approaching such salaries) arresting, detaining and forcibly deporting on chartered deportation flights is a heck of a lot more expensive and takes a lot longer than just handing families a couple grand plus $500 in plane tickets to get out. I suspect they're quietly doing this to bolster deportation numbers since forcibly deporting takes a ton of manpower and therefore is quite a bottleneck for meeting the deportation targets Trump has stated

yeah. if you're one of the Nazis.

If you're joking, be careful. They have deported many a US citizen. They're trying to meet their quotas.

if you have citizenship elsewhere, you just go there. if you do not, you do not want to be in any kind of "exiled" or "stateless"

Free airfare to the vacation destination of your choice. Don't forget your passport.

Can you sign up for them on their behalf?

Rafael Edward Cruz, aka Ted Cruz, wasn't actually born in the US.

It was a wedding, but yes!

Nothing is real

There aren't statues about it all over the place so of course we don't know th history.

Maybe they put it on your books.

How non-white are you?

/ s

Clearly the biggest issues with this.