Reddit users who switched to Lemmy, what is the most annoying thing you have seen about Lemmy users?

3 years ago by Prethoryn Overmind to c/asklemmy

Arn_Thor 300 points 3 years ago

Honestly, the insistence that Lemmy has better discussions than Reddit. Mostly even popular posts have too few comments to constitute any in depth discussion. I won’t be going back to Reddit but I miss the vibrancy.

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zkfcfbzr 108 points 3 years ago

This but about how almost everything about Lemmy is spun as either good, or better than reddit's equivalent.

Like the other day I saw a post about how Lemmy's active users were on the decline, trying to claim that was somehow good for Lemmy. Or back when Lemmy had its /r/place copy, there were plenty of people saying it was better than reddit's. Basically anything about Lemmy that's somewhat lacking has people desperately trying to defend it as actually superior.

It borders on delusional at times. Yes Lemmy is good, but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count. And this is coming from one of the people who deleted their reddit account and replaced it with Lemmy cold turkey - I haven't been back there (except for porn) in almost 8 weeks.

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MisterHavoc 37 points 3 years ago

Yes, I miss reddit for porn. Porn lemmy is lackluster

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zkfcfbzr 15 points 3 years ago

And not niche enough. The stuff I like on reddit has 28 posts from the last 24 hours. The equivalent on lemmynsfw hasn't had a single post since mid-July and I'm pretty sure the restrictive rules on pornlemmy would just ban it if posted there.

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fkn 3 points 3 years ago

You do know you need an account on the NSFW instances to see the stuff on them right?

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MisterHavoc 6 points 3 years ago

Yes. I have one exclusively for it.

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idiomaddict 4 points 3 years ago

I see them just fine without one, but I did allow nsfw on my account when I created it

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ada 4 points 3 years ago

but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count.

It's not though, because it's all locked away through an interface that doesn't work for many people. And it doesn't matter how good what's on the other side is, if there is a barrier that ensures I won't ever be on the other side.

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zkfcfbzr 17 points 3 years ago

It goes both ways. There are ways Lemmy is better than reddit, even in this early stage - and the default interface is 100% one of those. Default reddit is getting more and more like facebook these days.

But the lack of users on lemmy really hurts it. Of the 20 posts on my current All page, 13 of them have 0 comments. 5 of the remaining 7 have fewer than 5 comments.

I really think Lemmy has the potential to eventually surpass reddit - but I by no means at all think it's even close to that point yet. While it still has a long way to go software-wise, growing its userbase is by far the biggest hurdle it has to overcome. And as long as reddit keeps getting worse I think we'll get there.

I did get your point that reddit's strengths don't really matter if it's wrapped in a package that's unusable. I just disagree that that means Lemmy is automatically better in every way.

I am also not overly into this chat - because of what I said not what you said. I considered deleting my original message because it was more negative than I care to be, but left it because people had already replied. I'd really rather not get sucked into a chain of messages where all I'm doing is complaining about Lemmy.

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deweydecibel 5 points 3 years ago

There are plenty of users. The issue is they're not all working together on the same content.

That's the really the issue with federation as a solution for Reddit. Reddit was what it was because of a single, shared userbase all commenting and voting on the same things. Like /r/place, it was one canvas, all hands contributed to it.

The fediverse was sold to us as working the same way but the results have been the opposite. It's fragmented with invisible walls.

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deweydecibel 8 points 3 years ago

That's just being obtuse. Reddit does, in fact, have better content. You wouldn't say a restaurant has shitty food because you don't like the decor.

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ada 5 points 3 years ago

That’s just being obtuse. Reddit does, in fact, have better content.

I'm not denying that. I'm saying it doesn't matter, because I can't access it except through an app that I actively dislike using

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glassware 23 points 3 years ago

I still use both Lemmy and Reddit and I honestly think Lemmy is in a sweet spot where there are enough comments for a discussion but not enough to go off topic.

Reddit discussions are never about the OP, they're always riffing on an off-topic joke that someone made in a reply to the already off-topic top comment.

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cosmic_slate 9 points 3 years ago

Eh, Lemmy has the issue where the activity is low enough that the substantial number of low effort comments and comments that regurgitate the same bland sentiment are overwhelming.

These comments were annoying on Reddit and was my primary reason for leaving.

Hackernews manages a better balance. It is not as active as Reddit but there are a lot of insightful comments that balance out the low-effort contributions.

As an example: I’d happily happily throw a block party the day Elon Musk launches himself into the sun. I don’t need to see an article every time he takes a dump and the corresponding 50 comments about “elon is a menace”

Or anything Threads. The amount of exaggerated and irrational commentary about that was incredibly offputting.

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average650 3 points 3 years ago

It really depends on the topic. The big topics in Lemmy are better. But there's a lot of niche content that just isn't there.

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Wrench 17 points 3 years ago

Same dog piling happens on lemmy as it did in reddit. You try to introduce any nuance for discussion on a circle jerk thread, and it's down vote knee reactions.

I tried tildes, but it's the opposite problem. Pages of text for simple arguments that could be expressed in a paragraph, and people mincing words being too polite to get to the fucking point that they disagree. And if you're blunt and to the point, it ruffles feathers.

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deweydecibel 1 point 3 years ago
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Prethoryn 16 points 3 years ago

Lemmy users also tend to be stuck in one mind set and that is they know what they are talking about all the time no matter what even if their opinion is actually kind of shit.

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Decoy321 44 points 3 years ago

In fairness, this is practically everywhere on the internet.

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isVeryLoud 19 points 3 years ago

Yeah Reddit was no different

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deweydecibel 21 points 3 years ago

"lemmy users", most people here have been here for barely 2 months. The site doesn't have a defined culture yet, if it ever will given its fragmentation.

I get that you can't stand having to see opinions you disagree with, but you're really trying to prop up some punching bag here that doesn't exist.

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Prethoryn 8 points 3 years ago

Nah, there is a culture here and there was before the reddit move. If there wasn't then I could just say, "there are now more reddit users and you guys are like reddit users."

However, most Lemmy users who were here before are going to say, "this isn't like reddit."

Also, it's not about disagreeing with opinions because as you have said that is the internet. It is about seeing people who think they are techy and and that there is one way and one way only. I will give you some examples: Linux is way better than any other OS, FOSS is the only way because why would you buy something, Ew 3 dollars a month for Google drive the cloud is just too expensive, just pirate everything that will stick it to big corporations.

It's not a disagreement to opinion because these are things I also believe to some extent but on Lemmy they are extreme thoughts to the point of outright ignoring users asking about something and Lemmy downvoting and ignoring their question. So now Lemmy becomes more inclusive. There is also a, "actually," vibe here and a, "Im not like other girls," culture that most Lemmy users think they are so different from Reddit that they are actually just different kind of jerks.

Oh, then there is the, "yeah man, I know everything about privacy and security." And those types of Lemmy users have no idea how much of a nightmare privacy and security is on the Fediverse in general.

So sure I will prop up a punching bag and take a swing but this is the internet if you feel like the punching bag and this felt like a hit then it probably means I'm not too far off.

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fkn 1 point 3 years ago

I love your you immediately got 4 replies proving your point. 🤣

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jarfil 0 points 3 years ago

I love your you immediately got 4 replies proving your point. 🤣

I love how there are only 3 replies in total. 🙈

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lvxferre 12 points 3 years ago

I half-agree with this. I think that this depends a lot on the topic and, while the smaller amount of comments does hurt discussion depth, the individual comments themselves partially offset this by being more thoughtful.

And, while anecdotal, I think that there's a considerably lower ratio of comments with negative discussion value here in Lemmy than in Reddit. I'm not even talking about the out-of-place jokes (although they add noise), but shit like this:

  • "waaah, TL;DR!!" discouraging in-depth explainations
  • feigned lack of understanding as ad nauseam tactic
  • context illiteracy
  • unchecked assumptions towards other users, for the sake of ad hominem
  • "trust me"

Don't get me wrong; you do find this crap here, but IMO it's way less than in Reddit. And they hurt discussion because they either waste the time of the more thoughtful and knowledgeable users, or outright disengage them.

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couragethebravedog 7 points 3 years ago

I agree 100%. On Reddit you usually had the same style top few comments but under those you could actually see good conversation and discussions. Here everyone thinks they are right and you are wrong and nothing you can say can change that.

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Lemmylaugh 3 points 3 years ago

Alright lemmy let’s give this guy the most in depth talk about why lemmy has better discussions than reddit.

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cynetri 5 points 3 years ago

Lemmy isn't known for using bots to fill in gaps in user engegement, mostly

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cubedsteaks 1 point 3 years ago

Fucking yes! I hated being interrupted constantly by useless bots telling me the meaning of random words or the differences in grammar. Shit was off topic and unnecessary.

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Tandybaum 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I miss hoping on some niche tech sub and saying that I was having trouble with xyz specific thing and I’d had multiple people comment that were super knowledgeable about that exact thing.

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mim 186 points 3 years ago

Tankies.

You can't have a discussion about anything without some tankie blaming it on Ukrainians / the west / capitalism, etc.

"Oh you stubbed your toe on the table? See, tables are oppressive furniture of the bourgeoisie. The Chinese government wanted to make all tables toe-stubbing resistent, but that would affect IKEA's bottom line and the pharmaceutical industry's profits. I have a source from tankiepeoplesmagazine to back this up."

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Elderos 42 points 3 years ago

I made the mistake of mentionning social democracy once. This was followed by the most pedantic, insufferable and useless argument I have ever had on the internet. I had better discussions with wall. This was first and last time I was replying to those comments. It is easy to ignore anyway. Sometime you learn the hard way.

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maegul 7 points 3 years ago

I'm genuinely curious to see that ... do you have a link at all or something to search for?

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missveeronica 30 points 3 years ago

Omg, so much this. So fucking annoying.

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blackn1ght 7 points 3 years ago

bourgeoisie

Always makes me laugh when I see this. I'm tempted to start a hexbear bingo, it'll be the first one on the list!

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Ilikepornaddict -15 points 3 years ago

I almost never see this, but I see complaints about "tankies" all the time. I'm not even sure what a tankie is, but it seems about as stupid as the term "woke".

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mim 25 points 3 years ago

Have a look at comments in any news article regarding Ukraine. They will simp for Russia just because they are not US allies.

A tankie is commonly used to refer to someone who blindly defends the actions of the USSR, China, North Korea, etc. Going as far as denying human rights abuses and genocide.

It's not the same thing as woke.

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Ilikepornaddict -4 points 3 years ago

I know it's not the same as woke, the word just hits the same level of annoyingness for me.

I'm all for shutting down those who support Russia right now, I just feel like using buzzwords makes it more difficult to take people seriously.

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mim 18 points 3 years ago path: 0 2706992 2717446 2718321 2719089 2719248, hotness: undefined, score: 18, children: 11
Pratai -69 points 3 years ago
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PrettyFlyForAFatGuy 48 points 3 years ago

this is a thread specifically for complaining about stuff you don't like.

don't be so butthurt about it.

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rooster_butt 5 points 3 years ago

The funny thing is that u/Pratai@lemmy.ca is in lemmy.ca which defederated hexbear and lemmygrad so he won't see the annoying tankies.

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Pratai -2 points 3 years ago
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maegul -1 points 3 years ago

So complaining about too much complaining in a thread for complaining is too much complaining because it's not the complaint you yourself have?

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PrettyFlyForAFatGuy 3 points 3 years ago

I too am able to complain about the complainants complaint. if you have a complaint concerning my complaint complaint complaint please don't hesitate to post it as a response to this complaint

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Pratai -7 points 3 years ago
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RaivoKulli 13 points 3 years ago

Don’t think you know me that well kiddo.

The cringe is killing me

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Prethoryn 21 points 3 years ago

Found the Lemmy user who is upset that someone called them out.

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maegul 4 points 3 years ago

I don't think so ... I think that's someone talking about what is the most annoying thing you have seen about Lemmy users? ... the question and point of the post. Honestly, I think it's poor form to create a thread for criticising lemmy users/culture to then find certain critiques (which you evidently disagree with) to be inherently invalid without presenting any sort of discussion or explanation for your view in any remotely polite fashion.

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Pratai -6 points 3 years ago
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ImmortanStalin -1 points 3 years ago

What's there to complain? We get some breathing room, finally lol

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maegul -50 points 3 years ago

Yea, I'm with you ... the most "annoying" think about tankies is all of the noise about them as though they're some degenerate scum bringing down society.

It's not hard to move past a political opinion you don't like, or a big and hairy political debate you don't have time/energy for. But it doesn't mean a whole bunch of people have to be shunned/exiled because they happen to trigger your inability to do so ... or that you have to whine about their presence all of the time.

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Natanael 58 points 3 years ago

If they're in your comments saying it's a good thing civilians are being tortured to death and bombed because they were born in the wrong place then that's not just political differences.

Their goal is explicitly to silence others by sheer volume of bullshit.

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maegul -20 points 3 years ago

saying it’s a good thing civilians are being tortured to death and bombed because they were born in the wrong place

I mean, who disagrees with you here ... that's the sort of stuff moderation and blocking is for.

But I can't help but suspect (perhaps naively) that that's your read of someone else's opinion and not what they actually said or even intended to say, largely because it seems you're projecting consequences onto a difference of principles/interpretations.

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cloudless 16 points 3 years ago

People who support the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the CCP's violations of human rights ARE degenerate scum bringing down society.

I am never going to stop whining about their presence.

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WhyDoesntThisThingWork 16 points 3 years ago
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maegul -6 points 3 years ago

I’ve also seen “we’re adults, so lets just move on and not defederate/ban”

I'm not talking about defederation. Anyone wants to defederate, go right ahead, that's your right here, and I'm not too interested in getting upset at anyone that wants to do so. That being said, talking about defederation decisions and policies at a general level is also important because of the relationship admins have over users ... though here on lemmy we're pretty happy having multiple accounts and moving around so it isn't so much of an issue.

These users will brigade, follow you around, harass you, post objectionable memes and content,

Woah ... I haven't seen that, do you have links/receipts on that?

I suggest you spend your time preaching to the group that actually can’t handle being disagreed with

I presume you're talking about tankies ... what do you mean by "can't handle"?

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TooMuchDog 14 points 3 years ago

Shrugging off extremist views as "just a political opinion" that should be ignored if you don't like it is like the #1 way to normalize and spread extremist views. You do not, and should not, politely ignore extremist. Doing so is explicitly allowing and inviting more into your community. Tankies can fuck off and I will continue to say so.

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maegul -3 points 3 years ago

Well, the way I see it is that tankies are pretty much a minority without any power in the west, and, at least the ones I've seen around here, aren't actively organising any sort of violent revolutionary behaviour or anything ... which means their views tend to always be critiques of the powerful western governments and mainstream cultures form the perspectives of minorities, and often in ways that many in the mainstream find unpalatable, and therefore unconvincing. So, even if "extreme" (whatever you mean by that exactly) in some way, it's a "punching up" kind of "extreme" that I'm open minded to hearing, however agreeable or disagreeable I tend to find their opinions.

Do you really think tankies are convincing? This thread, at least, indicates otherwise. So much "extremism" are they going to be spreading? IMO, the sort of "extremism" much more likely to spread is the sort of stuff driven by hate of some sort of "other" weaker and smaller than the mainstream as a scapegoat, not least because it's more amenable to the worldview(s) of the larger and more powerful majority.

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Prethoryn 10 points 3 years ago

Here is how I read this,

"You don't have to make me feel like I am whining about things."

"So you stop whining about things. Quit talking so I can."

Found yet another Lemmy user to prove my point.

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maegul -3 points 3 years ago

So a lemmy user criticising a general behavour of lemmy users in a thread asking lemmy users what crticisms they have of other lemmy users ... is considered by the OP of the thread to be problematic and "proof of [their] point" ... I'm honestly lost.

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LotrOrc 10 points 3 years ago

I mean if a political opinion I don't like is one that says "hey these people shouldn't be allowed in our country because they are a different color" or "we should allow a president to betray the entire country and sell it out" then no that's a pretty big deal and those people should be shunned or exiled

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maegul -1 points 3 years ago

“hey these people shouldn’t be allowed in our country because they are a different color” or “we should allow a president to betray the entire country and sell it out”

Wait ... are these views pushed by tankies? Do you have any links ... genuinely curious?

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ArcaneSlime -1 points 3 years ago

It's not hard to move past a political opinion you don't like, or a big and hairy political debate you don't have time/energy for. But it doesn't mean a whole bunch of people have to be shunned/exiled because they happen to trigger your inability to do so ... or that you have to whine about their presence all of the time.

Funny, you sound just like my uncle. Do you have confederate flags hanging up in your room too, like he does?

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BettyWhiteInHD 170 points 3 years ago
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HKayn 66 points 3 years ago

As a Linux user myself, it saddens me to see how much the Linux fandom is invalidating itself with its aggressive attitude.

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pivot_root 34 points 3 years ago

As a proud GNU/ArchHat Ubungentoo Linux user, I disagree. I need others to know and agree with my choice of distribution, desktop environment, shell (POSIX sh btw), untained patched kernel, AMD graphics card, and IDE (vim obvs). How else would I get to feel like I'm more woke than other users both inside and outside my fandom?

Parody aside: It's one thing to politely discuss your software choices with other people to help them find things they haven't tried before. It's another to proselytize like a self-righteous prick.

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bisq 5 points 3 years ago

POSIX sh btw

That’s just too good 😂🙏

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deweydecibel -5 points 3 years ago

Linux isn't about the fandom, though. If someone is interested in a third option for OS, they will seek Linux because that's what it is, not because the fandom attracted them to it.

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Squids 35 points 3 years ago

I feel the worst examples is when you try to engage with the Linux people trying to explain why you can't use it and they're just in complete denial

I like Linux, but I can't use it because I very frequently use CAD programmes like fusion 360 which run exclusively on windows. Mention that and you'll spammed with "what about FreeCAD?" From people who either have never used freeCAD and are just grabbing the first Google result for "fusion 360 FOSS alternatives" or are in complete denial over how goddamn shit freeCAD is like I'm sorry that is not a functional alternative.

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jjagaimo 14 points 3 years ago

Oh man the FreeCAD discussion

I also use fusion and while FreeCAD has improved significantly, it's still lacking in critical areas

The replies are always "but it's gotten better"

Yeah, and it still pops up and error and wrests control away if you dare select a dimension tool and points/lines in the "wrong" order

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SatyrSack 2 points 3 years ago

The replies are always "but it's gotten better"

It's funny how often I see this.

Comment from 2023: "Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now."

Comment from 2021: "Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now."

Comment from 2015: "Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now."

Comment from 2004: "Yeah, but FreeCAD has improved a lot over the past couple years, and it is finally a viable alternative now."

You can see that said about just about any FOSS software. And I am a total FOSS-head myself, more commenting on the community than the software.

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Elderos 9 points 3 years ago

Same boat. I do dev work and there is simply no Linux alternative for some of the custom tools we use. I tried dual-booting and running VMs, even got one with direct access to the gpu, in the end it is a huge time sink.

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deweydecibel -3 points 3 years ago

Sure, but I don't see how that's an issue with the people suggesting Linux? If you can't use it, ok, but there's no reason why they're going to assume that.

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wieli99 15 points 3 years ago

Yes! As well as "Only ever use hardened Firefox Librewolf and Duckduckgo, every other product is the literal devil"

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deweydecibel 8 points 3 years ago

I mean...we have quite a bit of evidence of at this point that Google and Microsoft are creating problems for the future of the internet and technology in general.

I won't say they're the literal devil but I can't say I'd argue with anyone that says they are.

Calling out horrible practices and encouraging people to use the alternatives that don't do that shit...yeah, I'm not seeing an issue.

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wieli99 0 points 3 years ago

I'm not talking about the tech giants, but the loudest groups here treat alternatives like Brave, Vivaldi, etc. the same way

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ArcaneSlime 0 points 3 years ago

Iirc the isue with brave for most is that it was made by a "Nazi" (https://www.change.org/...). Personally the issue for me is that it wants to torrent for me but I want qbit to do it, and it's chrome based. Vivaldi is also chrome based iirc, which is also a problem for people who don't like the tech giants or the internet DRM bullshit google is trying to pull rn, but unless I'm mistaken idt they're the worst other than that whole "chromium" thing.

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KevonLooney 11 points 3 years ago

Were you online before Facebook? It was mostly nerds in the 90s and half nerds in the 2000s. You came to a car show and are upset that people are talking about cars. You're on Wall Street asking "what's up with all the suits?"

Literally no one is going to tone it down.

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cynetri 28 points 3 years ago

I never understood this either. "Why are users of an aggressively open-source service so adamant about using open-source software?" Especially when Lemmy's been around for years, so yeah it's cultivated a majority Linux userbase.

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TheInsane42 -3 points 3 years ago

Same, when you're so dead set against open source, why not stay at the commercial solutions?

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Feathercrown 11 points 3 years ago

It'a not about being against open source, it's about putting practicality over ideals. Some software simply isn't there yet.

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TheActualDevil 7 points 3 years ago

Man, I'm just here because I found spez's reaction to criticism both sad and so disgustingly corporatist that I didn't want to interact with his product anymore. But I don't have strong opinions on that sort of thing. My internet usage is mostly just killing time between work and real life tasks. Mostly early morning while I'm just waiting for my Adderall to kick in and for it to get late enough in the morning to get started on stuff. This internet space is not a significant part of my life. But I do want my time here to be enjoyable and the weird way that people on here make subjective choices a major part of their personality and get aggressive to outsiders can be off-putting. I'm clearly not alone in this. A lot of people just want a place to casually read some interesting stuff on the internet without constantly being preached to about the moral necessity of specific computer environments everywhere you go. Enjoying it as a hobby or whatever is fine, but like, chill guys. There isn't some Linux Hell we'll end up in if we don't convert before we all die.

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Honytawk 10 points 3 years ago

But this isn't a Linux-centered instance.

Just because the Fediverse is FOSS doesn't mean we have to shill out to everything FOSS on every instance.

That is like claiming since the Fediverse runs on servers, we should all ditch our regular computers and phones and only connect over server hardware.

It is okay to like FOSS, but it is an other thing to keep bringing it up ad nauseam, especially if the topic isn't even related. It only makes the Linux community look bad.

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ArcaneSlime 1 point 3 years ago

But this isn't a Linux-centered instance.

Your instance maybe, but some are, like programming.dev, and the way federation works is we can all talk to eachother.

Not everyone is on db0 either, but here I am talkin'.

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deweydecibel -1 points 3 years ago

Then downvote them and move on, man. You're complaining about people using the platform they believe in to talk about something else they believe in. They're not doing anything wrong, and whether or not it annoys you is not anyon else's concern but your own.

That's why there a voting system.

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deweydecibel 2 points 3 years ago

Frankly, if you're still all-in on the Windows or Apple ecosystem, there's no way to pull you to Linux.

The best Linux spokesmen has been Microsoft lately. I'm not using Linux because I necessarily want to. I want to keep using my clean version of 10, but they're taking that choice from me. I'm using Linux because I won't tolerate that shit at this point.

So Linux folks can be as aggressive as they want, it won't move the needle either way. People are either willing to try it to escape Apple and Microsoft, or they aren't.

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bstix 93 points 3 years ago

All the empty communities without any motivation from the creating user to actually be involved in their own community. I honestly think they should be deleted if they're not active. Inb4 "be the change/create your own". No, I don't want to run a community so I don't create a community. Neither should you. Nobody benefits from all these empty reservations of space. It might actually hinder the people who have a need for a community. It's like showing up at an empty store. "Oh I guess I'll go somewhere else for this then"

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tahoe 92 points 3 years ago

I’m annoyed by all those Facebook-type boomer comics you see on basically all meme subs. Reddit culture managed to get rid of them, but for some reason people here seem to love them

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weariedfae 15 points 3 years ago

Look, sometimes people enjoy brainless humor and that's okay. People have hard days. Twelve hours in the field days. Sometimes people are tired and just want something easy and that's perfectly valid.

As the sages of old said, "It's okay to not like things. It's okay, but don't be a dick about it."

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tahoe 10 points 3 years ago

I know, I don’t really care, I’m just replying to the thread :)

It’s annoying but also interesting to see that people upvote different things

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Zeth0s 2 points 3 years ago

Any example? Out of curiosity

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tahoe 5 points 3 years ago

This would be the last one I saw. I probably have plenty more examples in my downvotes, but I don’t think they’re accessible on Lemmy :(

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Hadriscus 4 points 3 years ago

How is it boomer ?

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cubedsteaks 4 points 3 years ago

its an old style comic that was used mostly for political cartoons back in the day but now they're just memes. There was a sub reddit for them specifically.

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timespace -2 points 3 years ago

Kids don’t like anything that doesn’t have foul language, sexual innuendos, or involves subtly.

That said, while I liked the comic linked, it had no business being posted in a meme community.

Sincerely, A boomer

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Zeth0s 3 points 3 years ago

Thanks, now I get what you mean

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captain_aggravated 84 points 3 years ago

This platform is almost 100% idealism and politics. Any hobby/technical community goes completely inactive.

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Hikermick 78 points 3 years ago

Lots of wanna be communists that are well intentioned but have little real world experience

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BURN 71 points 3 years ago

It’s really goddamn preachy. There’s a real sense of superiority a lot of users have that I don’t recall as much on Reddit.

There’s also the fact that small communities are dead and it’s next to impossible to grow them, so you’re stuck with the same people on the front page every day.

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JusticeForPorygon 65 points 3 years ago

Political extremists. So about the same as Reddit, though they seem to be a little more frequent/outspoken here. Also funnily enough the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Used to get called a dirty commie because I believed in Nationalized healthcare, but now I'm apparently a facist for not worshipping the CCP.

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Hazdaz 63 points 3 years ago

The number of pro-communist posts in here is comical. The amount of anti-capitalist posts is almost comical. Obviously related to some degree.

The lack of posts outside of a few main news and politics communities is frustrating.

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Whimsical 63 points 3 years ago

Just lack of numbers. Reddit's at it's best when I can use it to discuss some incredibly niche topic. That early 2000s RTS that nobody remembers? Got a few dozen redditors still posting memes. New indie game drops? There's enough redditors on it that we can talk about it.

But lemmy seems really bad for trying to enjoy any community that isn't a big political or meme centerpiece. Any particular game or IP that isn't a lowest common denominator? It'll get maybe 3 posts a month.

No more interesting discussions of gameplay mechanics or inspirations or character analyses, no burning out an entire workday browsing the top all-time and giggling like an idiot, it's just dead here.

The same massive numbers that made reddit insufferable for some are what make niche communities inhabitable at all.

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KuroJ 55 points 3 years ago
  • The amount of people that like to shit on the U.S. constantly... Like damn I get it, we definitely have problems, but people here would have you think it's like the wild wild west over here... I promise I'm not fearing for my life every time I go out.

  • The extreme left views (I'm liberal myself but some of the things people say here really have me scratching my head sometimes)

  • The amount of Windows bad, Linux good posts.

  • The amount of people that immediately shit on Apple because of privacy, but use an Android device that accesses the Google Play store (yes I know you can install custom privacy roms, but let's be real, how many casual users are doing this?)

  • People always asking if something is FOSS...

These are just a few off the top of my head.

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opensourcedeeznuts 54 points 3 years ago

The sheer amount of pro-communist/pro-china comments is insane here. Plus the number of giant emojis that spam up the whole comment feed. Honestly, most of my real issues come down strictly to Hexbear users. A lot of their behavior completely ruins the platform for me.

That and the lack of fanbases for the things I like. There's very little Star Wars or Halo fan presence here. Feels like Star Trek is the only fandom with any presence here, so I have to go back to reddit for those things.

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SaltyLemon 54 points 3 years ago
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whoisearth 54 points 3 years ago

I'm left on the political spectrum but by and large y'all fuckers are over the deep end.

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altima_neo 52 points 3 years ago

The pro china/Russia stuff is super weird. Also the hex bear goons brigading everything.

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jpeps 49 points 3 years ago

Despite being a techie myself, I'm frequently irritated by how much technical conversation there is on here. I seem to see comments all the time that use some unrelated computer programming concept as a metaphor or a similar non sequitur. It reeks of intellectual elitism and is just a reminder of what a small community we still are. I kind of miss the amount of 'normal' people on reddit with more varied interests. That said, generally speaking the quality of conversation on here is really high which is amazing.

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VediusPollio 45 points 3 years ago

This place is a far worse echo chamber than Reddit, and mods fall right in line. I've seen too many posts get downvoted to hell for simple opinions, and other 'dissenters' get posts removed that should have just been part of open discussions.

I've said this before, even in a lighter tone, and those posts mysteriously disappeared. I'm betting this one will be removed too.

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RaptorMother 44 points 3 years ago

The obsession with Linux and privacy. Every post it seems like anyone using windows is committing a cardinal sin. I have had to use linux in the past, and let me tell you, I don't intend to go back to it unless forced to. I still have mental scars of trying to update my gpu drivers

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Arcynic 44 points 3 years ago

If anything Lemmy users so far have been much less annoying than most reddit users. I feel like I'm reading through less garbage, and comment sections don't look like the same joke repeated ad nauseum.

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Waldhuette 39 points 3 years ago

Of course you are reading through less garbage. There are like 100 million reddit users and like 10 Lemmy users.

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Prethoryn 33 points 3 years ago

My experience has been different. I feel like I see the same, "Linux is better." Shit all the time. All the memes are also, "Windows user realizing this. Linux user not caring."

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UndefinedIsNotAFunction 3 points 3 years ago

...

When they're right, they're right

...

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Honytawk 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah, but that doesn't happen often.

Especially when they base their Windows knowledge on only their own preferences, that are usually out-dated or at least poorly researched.

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UndefinedIsNotAFunction 1 point 3 years ago

My windows knowledge peaked with XP. Do I still get internet points?

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deweydecibel -23 points 3 years ago

People liking Linux is ruining your enjoyment of a FOSS platform? Tell me you appreciate the irony.

You seem seriously triggered about something you've been reading in other threads and need to vent, so go off, let's here it.

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HKayn 24 points 3 years ago

And this is the aggressive attitude I was just talking about.

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Honytawk 9 points 3 years ago

Just because you enjoy one instance of FOSS doesn't mean you have to start a bloodpact with all of them.

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TheObserver 44 points 3 years ago

Not the users but lemmy itself. Sorting by hot is pointless since you see the same post for days at a time. I get lemmy is small but shit it can't be that hot for that many days.

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Skunk 43 points 3 years ago

Bots copy pasting content from Reddit.

There are community filled only with that, no upvotes, no comment, no nothing.

When you finally block the bot those communities disappear as the bot is the only active user.

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gibbedygook 8 points 3 years ago

When you finally block the bot those communities disappear as the bot is the only active user.

And that's why the bot exists

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moonburster 41 points 3 years ago

People not marking nsfw content nsfw.... Front page is a minefield whilst in public transport

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Syl 7 points 3 years ago

I asked our instance admins to defederate lemmynsfw.com because of this.

The good thing about lemmy is that you can still create an account on that instance if you want to.

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FordBeeblebrox 8 points 3 years ago

That’s the beauty of the federation. It’s not like a subreddit got nuked and is no longer available. I have this account on .world, if I want to see some titties I just move to another node in the wide world of instances. Like various neurons getting cut off from some synapses but still available by other paths.

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netburnr 6 points 3 years ago

That and fucking sexualized anime girls. Fucking don't need that shit on my screen

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glimse 15 points 3 years ago

When I first joined Lemmy I was happy with how few anime subs I had to filter compared to reddit...but it seems like the horny weebs are starting to make the switch. I hate that genre (style?) where they draw everyone looking like children. Gross

[Edit] love to get downvoted for saying that hentai with children is disgusting

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cubedsteaks 3 points 3 years ago

I agree with you but you should know that anime and hentai are different things.

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jarfil -2 points 3 years ago
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glimse 2 points 3 years ago

I'm so sorry I should have been more clear: At the risk of sounding like an extremist, I think it's bad to fuck kids. It's also bad to watch porn - live action or not - featuring kids or characters deliberately made to look like kids.

Thanks for correcting me

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hal_5700X 3 points 3 years ago

Use the block button and good luck.

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Falmarri -9 points 3 years ago

Lol really?

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Ilikepornaddict 2 points 3 years ago

I'm literally logged into an account for porn specifically, and I don't have this problem. I just selct "hide nsfw" and almost never see anything nsfw on all.

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plz1 41 points 3 years ago

Incessant posts about Reddit (and Twitter).

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diffuselight 41 points 3 years ago

Hexbear neonazi tankies one one side, overbearing blocking on the other.

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gibbedygook 22 points 3 years ago

lemmy really needs a way for users to individually block instances

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diffuselight 11 points 3 years ago

Or common clients like voyager need it. should be doable. Would sell me on a client instantly

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can 6 points 3 years ago

Connect

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wahming 5 points 3 years ago

Sync for lemmy has it

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bingbong 3 points 3 years ago

Only blocks them in the feed, but not in comments

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Z4rK -9 points 3 years ago

Only if you give them a lot of pretty pennies.

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threegnomes 5 points 3 years ago

Sync has it

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justastranger 3 points 3 years ago

I swear Jerboa let you block entire instances, something I desperately wish Sync could do

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Jay 40 points 3 years ago

Some of them keep talking about their Ex (Reddit).

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LedgeDrop 40 points 3 years ago

The defederation topic and how it impacts me.

I'm an adult, if I find something offensive I'll either block it or ignore it. However, not giving me the choice offends me and IMHO goes against what Lemmy and the fediverse was suppose to deliver.

I understand (and read) the reason's why site owners defederate and I view it largely as "Lemmy isn't mature enough to support more granular blocking - yet", so I wait patiently and hope this trend towards defederation doesn't turn into a powertrip by site owners "for the good of their users...."

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Elderos 23 points 3 years ago

Imo, defederation isn't the exile sentence everyone is making out to be. It is used like you said as a bandaid as a moderation tool, but really just about "anyone" can boot up an instance and have complete agency on which Instances are visible.

I'd be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club, but this this is a more complex discussion, and there is no sign of it happenning.

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jarfil 2 points 3 years ago

I'd be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club

You'd still be able to join the instances directly, or join an instance that doesn't follow the big "whitelist club".

Right now instances are already split across some lines, and you need accounts on an instance of a certain "group" in order to access the content from those instances... and that's a feature, not a bug.

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deweydecibel 1 point 3 years ago

There's already shared bannlists in the works.

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leraje 18 points 3 years ago

Depends on the reason for me. I totally get why .world blocked those 3 communities (not a defed I know but still) given the possible legal issues and given the admin isn't a lawyer and can't afford to retain a high powered legal team. Blocking those communities until they have a legal opinion just seems like good sense to me.

The hexbear thing - they're evangelical totalitarians politically. They believe what they believe and everything they talk about revolves around that and they need you to hear it, again and again and again. It's just mentally exhausting dealing with them, especially when a large part of their freely admitted m.o. is brigading/dog-piling.

Being fedded with lemmynsfw didn't bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on 'All'. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues? That's probably a pretty good reason to defed from an instance.

So, and this is admittedly all from my perspective, I haven't seen any overbearing uses of defedding.

And I think people need to realise defedding is not like banning. On reddit if a sub got banned it was gone. On Lemmy if one instance defeds from another, the other instance is still there. You still have the choice to view it.

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AA5B 1 point 3 years ago

lemmynsfw didn’t bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on ‘All’. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues?

Were? Ok, maybe I’m old but I’m freaked out by how young some of the people look on nsfw communities and have stopped subscribing. Reddit had people posting that didn’t make me feel gross

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jarfil 2 points 3 years ago

It's a country based thing:

  • US: "I'll know it when I see it"
  • Japan: "anything goes as long as the genitals have censor bars"
  • EU: range from "not without written consent and photo ID of the drawn character", to "anything goes as long as it doesn't look realistic"
  • China, India, Arabs, Africa: "no porn, go rape someone"

The combination of instance owner, server location, and client location, determines whether something is legal or not.

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Ataraxia 12 points 3 years ago

The instance isn't yours. It doesn't belong to the users. You are graced with being allowed to use it. The owner of the instance is the one that gets into legal trouble because you want to post your loli furry pictures to the world. If I ran my own instance I would be restricting content as well. And federating with an instance that hosts that shit forces them to also host that content.

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russjr08 1 point 3 years ago

I get the feeling their argument wasn't 100% over illegal content (but I do agree - you shouldn't expect a bunch of individuals to try to fight potential legality issues, I certainly don't), part of it may have been in regards to all of the other reasons defederation occurs. Such as LW removing piracy communities for legal reasons, as opposed to Beehaw defederating from LW/SHIJW over the open registration nature of those instances.

Thankfully my instance is mine, so I get to make those decisions for myself. Unfortunately I'm not surprised though that there seems to be a bit of a split between people who evangelized Lemmy as the "where Reddit can't decide to block content" (which I saw a lot of, during the sub protests) and then on the outside that's exactly how it looks.

Telling people to host their own instance, or to have multiple accounts on multiple instances is probably the equivalent of the same thing being discussed here as the Linux evangelists who go "Well just use FreeCAD" (to use an example from further above) when they say they use Windows because they're involved in professional CAD work.

There's a lot of nuances between Lemmy, Federation, and The Fediverse as a whole that gets left out when people introduce others to it and I've seen a lot of cases where that causes precisely this issue - it's sold as a one size fits all solution when that couldn't be further from the truth.

I have no stance (I'm not here to tell other admins how to run their instances) on the subject of the matter in this comment chain, but that's how I see it when I try to "play devil's advocate" and look at it from different lenses.

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LedgeDrop 0 points 3 years ago

Illegal stuff? Sure block it, I totally respect the need to CYA.

Blocking lemmit.online 'cause it's a bot, which yields low content and pollutes "All"? Block lemmynsfw, cause of NSFW content? ... well, as an adult I'd prefer I could make that choice for myself and have it governed by my own tolerances.

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jarfil 4 points 3 years ago
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Xenxs 39 points 3 years ago

The wannabe communists and those trolls from Hexbear.

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PvtGetSum 38 points 3 years ago

I'm a socialist but the level of communism here gives me a headache. Wish I could block the whole hexbear instance

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LotrOrc 38 points 3 years ago

What is a tankie?

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CoolSouthpaw 37 points 3 years ago

Lots more pro CCP shills on here. Smh.

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xcxcb 37 points 3 years ago

Super opinionated people who are completely blind to the thing they're discussings shortfalls.

See: anything to do with Linux.

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_number8_ 36 points 3 years ago

not the users, but there isn't really enough discussion on here it seems like, just general memes. i like memes and shitposting but a man can't live on shitposting alone

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Name 36 points 3 years ago

Obsession with Reddit, Linux, being communists. Everyone here is a former reddit mod/addict, I'm not surprised. This place is somehow worse than reddit in a different way.

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maegul 36 points 3 years ago

So I couldn’t help myself, and looked at a bit of your posting history.

Gotta say, you seem a bit angsty. If you have opinions different from what’s mainstream here (though I’m not sure arguments about Linux are really mainstream, even here), that’s all well and good, and a decent enough reason to not enjoy your time here.

But your engagement seems somewhat anger driven, and that seems to colour your challenges here, where feeling like you’re the lone voice of wisdom seems to fuel your angst.

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deweydecibel 29 points 3 years ago

You got to it before I did. This whole thread is your typical asking a question as way to sound off about something else in the comments. Dude is grumpy and needs people to see.

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Chriszz 3 points 3 years ago

OP has a hidden agenda and he’s trying to stoke flames with his question and comments

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bandario -5 points 3 years ago

Snooping post history is a red flag, mam. Pretty low, and not a Reddit feature I'm particularly keen on retaining.

So what if I spend all my time posting pornographic images of King Richard the third? Not really relevant to the argument at hand, is it?

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maegul -2 points 3 years ago

In this case it was relevant. And I wasn’t looking to nor did I cast any aspersions or generalisations based on any quirky or strange post behaviour. I only sought to understand what kind of negative experiences OP had with lemmy.

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bandario 0 points 3 years ago

It's creepy. Comment history should only be searchable by Admin for the purpose of evaluating a ban IMO.

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maegul 2 points 3 years ago

I hear you and sympathise. Here on the fediverse, privacy isn't really a thing and you're best off thinking of this is a big connected public blog, as problematic or undesirable as that may be.

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EnderMB 35 points 3 years ago

The lack of them, I guess?

There are lots of communities, but many of them are absolutely dead. My fav subs were BJJ, Hajime No Ippo, Squared Circle, and CS Career Questions. None of them are active here.

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Stroopwafel1 35 points 3 years ago

Linux supremacist and the wannabe commies are pretty annoying.

Other quality of life features would be nice. Like searching for a specific post

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Crashumbc 35 points 3 years ago

Extremism - Reddit as its share but also has millions of "normies" to balance things out. Here there doesn't seem to be any moderates.

The platform itself is dysfunctional and will prevent any real growth in average users.

Just TOO many Linux fanboys/martyrs, it is a good OS but damn stop trying to go full on religion with it.

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TootSweet 34 points 3 years ago

There are so many tankies here. CCP propaganda and Stalin apologetics everywhere.

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CharAhNalaar 33 points 3 years ago

As much as I'm skeptical about the unchecked power of corporations, I feel like Lemmy tech enthusiasts are completely hostile to the more mainstream kind of enthusiasm that actually like a well designed product.

Like, you can whine about the theoretical problems of a centralized service all you want, but if you're not syncing with OneDrive (or an alternative, though those are kinda worse) on your Windows computer you're literally sabotaging yourself. I could go on about other examples, but I'll limit myself.

I don't care if you think Linux is better. For the average person, Linux is incomprehensible. Now don't get me wrong, I like Linux too! I use Linux for my servers, and it's a great option to have. But the ideologues who push it to everyone are infuriatingly dumb, and serve only to push people out of the tech community.

As a whole, this site has too many ideologues, and not enough nuance. It's like the whole "Reddit atheist" phenomenon but worse: people here are unquestionably critical to an absurd degree, and refuse to accept that there may be alternative viewpoints on what they're saying.

And I'm not fond of capitalism either. I just think that the constant negativity is draining.

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AngryAnusHornets 33 points 3 years ago
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kraftpudding 33 points 3 years ago

I keep blocking any communities mentioning Linux on my feed, yet it still never stops.

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fujiwara 33 points 3 years ago

Everyone just talks about Reddit and Linux. Also people are just generally jerks on here. I don't comment much because I just see people getting dragged for not being as knowledgeable as others.

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antihumanitarian 32 points 3 years ago

People complaining about the promotion of FOSS on a FOSS powered site. Lemmy amd Mastodon are a golden opportunity to get people onboard with FOSS, no shit they're going to evangelize it. Not to mention the early adopters were obviously FOSS devs.

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Widowmaker_Best_Girl 32 points 3 years ago

The political opinions of the average Lemmy user are a lot more radical and the users themselves come off as a lot more arrogant than the average Reddit user.

Which is honestly shocking to me because I thought Redditors were bad. I block any community that is about politics or users that try to inject politics where it isn't pertinent.

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Apex_Fail 31 points 3 years ago

Arguing about which instance is best / instance superiority / complaining about users from _______ instance.

My friends, we are on a collective group of web pages being hosted an run by individuals as a fucking hobby. Shut. Up.

To the admins, thank you.

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iByteABit 31 points 3 years ago

People here are way to eager to get into political arguments out of nowhere, usually in bad faith. The front-page is covered with doomscrolling content, being here too long makes me miserable and hopeless. The rest of the content is mostly tech stuff, which can only be interesting for so long.

What I miss from Reddit, is the variety of diverse communities, people having fun and polite conversations, a sense of humor, and a lot of happy content or stuff that's interesting but not limited to tech.

At this point, I feel like the technology is much better and the user base much larger, but the user group is so extremely specific.

I wish people from all political spectrums would engage in a civil conversation here and not reduce it to mockery and attacking. What's the point of discussion if no one leaves with something new to think?

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PoetSII 31 points 3 years ago

So many damn Linux memes and supremacy posting.

On a more real note though, a bunch of the smaller communities I was part of on reddit, and nearly every specific gaming sub I was in aren't here, or at least aren't anywhere near as active.

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teichflamme 31 points 3 years ago

The most annoying thing is hexbear and that everything needs to be political.

Especially when it's that cringe combination of both

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littlecolt 30 points 3 years ago

Sense of humor is a very limited resource on here, I've found.

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Agent641 30 points 3 years ago

Lot of linux users here.

I once asked a linux user how his day was, and he said "Marked as duplicate, question locked."

I asked what that meant and he said "Artie Efemme"

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MossBear 29 points 3 years ago

There was a period about a month ago where things were surprisingly thoughtful and well-considered for the most part. Then another wave of probably younger redditors came in and they brought with them all of the reactionary meme-ish way of talking. You can't make people not be how they are, but I was sad to see all of that awesomeness diluted.

But who knows, maybe given enough time, Lemmy and the fediverse will make an impact on these people and they'll see that it's better to live in a society (albeit a digital one) where people make an effort to listen and to respond thoughtfully as opposed to getting something out just to get it out.

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rambling_lunatic 27 points 3 years ago

Being really eager to defederate over relatively minor crap. What's the point of Lemmy then, man?

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ruckblack 27 points 3 years ago

Lotta radical communities here who like to brigade posts on other, completely unrelated communities. Conversations were calmer with fewer slurs being thrown around a couple months ago.

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blockhouse 26 points 3 years ago

They aren't sports fans. One of the things I do most often on Reddit is participate in various gamethreads in /r/nfl, /r/cfb, /r/hockey, /r/baseball, etc etc etc. There are gamethreads on Lemmy, mostly on the fanaticus.social instance. I'm the only one I've seen post in them, except for bots.

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xoagray 25 points 3 years ago

My only real complaint is that some of the groups I was in on reddit either aren't here, or are super small here. As far as the people go, maybe I've just been lucky but most folks have been pretty nice, and thus far I haven't really run into the extremist stuff some folks ahve mentioned.

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Kolanaki 25 points 3 years ago

The privacy crowd that is rather large on Lemmy reminds me too much of a stereotypical paranoid conspiracy theorist, pushing for things solely for their privacy features, even if everything else about the product is garbage. 9 times out of 10, even the people advocating for certain privacy features have absolutely no need of them, and they get overly upset when certain criminal groups take advantage of these privacy tools for the exact same reasons they advocate to use them; they're just doing very questionable things to necessitate the extreme privacy.

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Katos 23 points 3 years ago

This platform is wonderful but the people on it circle jerk politics and aren't open to discussion. The community has dramatically shifted left. We're very far from the center now.

Came for the platform, considering leaving for the people.

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AA5B 23 points 3 years ago

About users? Too wholesome. I feel like I need to be on my best behavior

About Lemmy?

— Why do I need to login so frequently?

— Why do my filters keep resetting?

— But most of all, lemmy doesn’t yet have the volume to keep some of the more specialized communities active

— and I wish we could get r/AskHistorians to rebuild here ?

— and how the eff do you do markup here?

— and why does the context button only work half the time?

— and how do I see my comments, especially when the context button isn’t working and I’m trying to figure out what someone replied to me about

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Gleddified 23 points 3 years ago

I can't keep track of who is defederating whom, I don't really want to host my own instance here but I want to decide myself what I do or don't see

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deweydecibel 22 points 3 years ago

It's been, what,two months?

Are we seriously trying to create an arbitrary divide and pick fights already?

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Yerbouti 22 points 3 years ago

That some people tend to ask boring and repetitive question about Lemmy vs Reddit.

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AergisGeist 22 points 3 years ago

Reddit tier memes being spammed around everywhere, I have so many meme subreddits blocked among other stuff

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Pulptastic 22 points 3 years ago

I have a sense that the islands (instances) are concentrating/amplifying more extreme views echo chamber style. I'm sure it was there on reddit too... but I feel like I am exposed to more far right and far left viewpoints that are presented in a toxic/offensive manner on lemmy. It happened occasionally on Reddit but it is daily on lemmy. I am browsing All to find new content and not really liking what I find.

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Tylerdurdon 22 points 3 years ago

Nothing so far. Sure, it's smaller and there are growing pains here and there, but the folk pretty nice here. Think I'll stay for a while...

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Prethoryn 2 points 3 years ago

I am glad you are having a positive experience. I have seen 2 comments saying that. I am having a much different experience.

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mysoulishome 14 points 3 years ago

I love you and hope you have a nice day

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Hamartiogonic 10 points 3 years ago

Maybe it is because of the kinds of communities you visit and the types of conversations you participate in. Try something more neutral or wholesome and you’ll find a completely different side of Lemmy.

If you show hints of anger, hatred, disdain or disrespect in your interactions, people are going to reflect some of it back at you. Maybe that’s why you’re experiencing negative feelings here.

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Honytawk 4 points 3 years ago

It is funny how you saying you have had some bad experiences on Lemmy is enough to get downvoted.

Almost like you aren't allowed to have a different opinion than the zeitgeist.

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Jackolantern 3 points 3 years ago

I’m sorry to hear that op. I hope you’ll give this platform another chance. I’m sure a lot more positivity will come your way pretty soon.

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JoeClu 21 points 3 years ago

Most annoying for me is calling for or defederating from instances which have diverse points of view. This is inclusivity hypocrisy. Ignore or block what you don't want to hear. Don't speak for me. You may have supporters that think the way you do, but there are multitudes who think differently. It's the antithesis of equity to silence different opinions, no matter how offensive they are to you and/or to those who think like you. Simply block them so you do not have to endure differing, offensive speech [even if you consider it "hate" speech]. What I hate, others may adore. So just block it.

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raiun 20 points 3 years ago

Bot accounts archiving/copying posts from Reddit. If I wanted to see them I’d go to Reddit. Some of these bot accounts I can’t even block because of a bug, maybe do to sheer amount of posts from these accounts.

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WolfyGamer29 20 points 3 years ago

I mean, this is kinda just an internet problem in general, but it's just a prevalent here on Lemmy as anywhere else, so it does count as something annoying Lemmy users doing. And that's just general aggression

It seems like saying anything is a great way to get someone downright furious with you. Again, that happens everywhere, I just wish there was less of it on Lemmy. I think FOSS topics are a great example. Just in this thread alone you can see people already getting just... really worked up on both sides of the FOSS subject.

People get really aggressive about what qualifies as a good meme, ffs. And there also just a general culture online (it's died down recently, I think? It was really bad starting in 2016, imo) of humorous aggression, where reacting in really aggressive ways just as a joke is really common, which leads to misunderstandings and causes people to get actually mad if they aren't in the loop of the joke in the first place.

On a bright note however, I have noticed there's a lot less bigotry being treated as acceptable on here. Transphobic memes and stuff of that nature would show up in random communities on reddit a lot more than should ever be acceptable, and they would occasionally (not always) get more support in the comments than they should. Here on Lemmy it seems folks are a lot more proactive in shutting that stuff down before those types get a foothold here. Hopefully it stays that way.

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Isthisreddit 20 points 3 years ago

The Grammer Nazi's are here to

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raker 20 points 3 years ago

Still talking about R. Get over it! Move on!

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Iamdanno 20 points 3 years ago

Their annoyance with Reddit users. "Quit trying to Reddit my Lemmy!"

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aaaa 20 points 3 years ago

For me it's been the people trying to turn this into a carbon copy of their Reddit experience. I get the desire to fill the void after leaving Reddit, but this is a different place with a different group of people and a different social dynamic. We don't need copies of the subreddits we had on Reddit. We don't need separate communities for every type of meme or joke like we had over there (yet). Creating niche communities is a little premature when we don't even have the larger ones reading critical mass yet.

And to a much lesser degree, I would like to stop seeing people say "sublemmy." But at least I understand how we got there. "Community" is such a generic term, it's easy to not realize that's what they're called.

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Jordan117 19 points 3 years ago

Blithely continuing the blatant reposting of the same old submissions, especially the same two dozen years-old Twitter screencaps. Lemmy doesn't even track user karma, and it's still way too small to bother selling accounts for astroturfing! You don't actually have to karma-whore here!

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whataboutshutup 2 points 3 years ago

That's a honest masturbation to internet points, without any impure motives. Gotta respect that.

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theKalash 2 points 3 years ago

Lemmy doesn’t even track user karma

Well it does, it just isn't shown anywhere.

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jarfil 1 point 3 years ago

I never understood the point of "user karma" on Reddit, it didn't change anything other than some subreddits automatically banning users who haven't participated in "less elitist" subreddits before.

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Bitrot 0 points 3 years ago

Pretty much of the apps show karma, which is unfortunate.

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Wyvven 18 points 3 years ago

FOSSLinuxPCMasterraceElonTech, Reddit was already a sausage fest, idk what metaphor to even use for Lemmy

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Anon819450514 18 points 3 years ago

Yeah, people need to post relevant content in order to have some relevant feed. Also, the defederation from hexbear and Lemmy.grad has helped a lot on the pro china/Russia discourse.

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Redo11 18 points 3 years ago

I did not switch from Reddit, but Lemmy really amplifies any niches that are on here to the point of extremism. It also mostly consists of nerds. Would love to see more diverse and open crowd on here.

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z00s 17 points 3 years ago

The constant obsession with R. Get the fuck over it and move on, OP

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tacosplease 16 points 3 years ago

I like the people on lemmy. Just wish I could speak German in order to understand the 15% of content that's in German.

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Bort 16 points 3 years ago

There is barely a difference in content/comments from Reddit and we act like we are so much better than Redditors

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angstylittlecatboy 15 points 3 years ago

Elitism. People who act entitled to Lemmy attracting whatever crowd they like and not attracting the people they didn't like from Reddit.

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electrosphere 15 points 3 years ago

Not sure if this is a planned feature, but not being able to block instances. I can do that on Mastodon so I expected to be able to do it here as well. Outside of the usual extreme cases where defederation makes sense, that would solve a lot of "lemmy.deez user said this! why doesn't lemmy.nuts defederate from them?" bullshit. Of course there's always the option of changing instance but you're never gonna agree 100% with the owner's choices when it's something you should be able to have control over.

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VoilaChihuahua 15 points 3 years ago

There's no chihuahua sub where we all post numerous daily pictures of our weird little dogs then tell each other in droves how absolutely lovely they are.

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shodan5000 14 points 3 years ago
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Teodomo 14 points 3 years ago

The things that annoy me about some Lemmy users are the same things that annoyed me about some Reddit users (lots of frequently upvoted meme subs that don't work for me, posting ragebait, political compass subs, etc) and I'm dealing with them the exact same way I dealt with them at Reddit throughout 10 years: block and move on. The best thing about this type of forum is that you can heavily personalize your feed by filtering/blocking/muting and you'll still have some reasonably good quality content (which includes both your niches and the potential to discover either general or specific stuff you'll like) thanks to the upvote system.

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Kes 13 points 3 years ago

The FOSS crowd is incredibly cringey and annoying

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NeoNachtwaechter 12 points 3 years ago

Lemmings believe they are the good ones.

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willya 12 points 3 years ago

These guys under obvious joke meme posts.

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dylanTheDeveloper 5 points 3 years ago

I remember I said "literally 1984" and a bunch of people just did not understand the joke and proceeded to write multi paragraph replies detailing why I'm wrong and that "you obviously never read the book"

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Millie 12 points 3 years ago

A good number of them seem to be trying to import reddit into Lemmy wholesale.

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SCB -3 points 3 years ago

That would be ideal, yes

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Millie 0 points 3 years ago

Ew, no. Go away.

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SCB 0 points 3 years ago

The more of me there are the more of me there will be, so nah.

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HenriVolney 12 points 3 years ago

Not enough of them to build fun and meaningful conversations

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quadropiss 12 points 3 years ago

Lack of reading comprehension in political topics.

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match 11 points 3 years ago

do we count the shitty x-post bots with 1 upvote and 0 comments spamming otherwise dead communities

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jarfil 1 point 3 years ago

There is basically a single bot doing that, for the express purpose of doing that. Block the bot, problem solved.

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WarmSoda 10 points 3 years ago

People still make AcHUalLY comments here. That crap is annoying.

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CombatWombat1212 10 points 3 years ago

It's just so dry on here. So far I check in every so often just to see what's up but you can never shake the fact that Reddit has the reach and the history. Sadly I still suffer the Reddit mobile experience here and there, but I mostly just use other apps now. Lemmy just isn't close yet and the whole decentralized thing is beyond confusing for new users, I hate how many accounts I need to create.

Plus the delay to the content is huge, it's like 2 days behind the freshest news articles and discussions and stuff, and the meme content is super dated

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Icaria 10 points 3 years ago

They're still too much like reddit users.

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ShouldntHaveSaidThat 10 points 3 years ago

People thinking the Reddit community is so much worse than Lemmy, like they didn't just come from there themselves and used to be part of it.

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HellAwaits 10 points 3 years ago
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Thorny_Thicket 10 points 3 years ago

Probably the fact that people here seem to bond over the mutual hatred of outgroups/people rather than over the interest in similar things.

The quite heavy left bias shows also.

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Z4rK 9 points 3 years ago

They are all so nice that I feel I have to be nice too.

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Prethoryn -22 points 3 years ago

Oh, no. I have had a much different experience. I think Lemmy users are just different kinds of assholes and don't realize it.

I am looking at you lemmy user that thinks people should just start killing people to settle the score.

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maegul 27 points 3 years ago

Downvote from me. This whole question and thread seems clearly to be about you processing some very particular encounters, and, frankly, it doesn’t seem to be proceeding in a particularly healthy fashion.

If you wanted to discuss a problematic culture here, that’s cool, provide links if examples and a breakdown and a thesis as to what’s going on … ie actual content … and we can discuss and read. A question with a hidden agenda and unspecific angsty critiques in the comments … isn’t valuable, for neither us nor you.

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mysoulishome 21 points 3 years ago

Report them and move on to talking to the rest of us lovely folks

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isVeryLoud 5 points 3 years ago

Time to kill this guy, we have a score to settle with this Lemmy hater.

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Dr_Wu 9 points 3 years ago

I really like lemmy. A lot of people with similar interests as me here.

Seeing a lot of complaints about controversial communities, but I for one actually like them. I like the entertainment value of the drama, arguments, and trolling.

I am sick of people removed about these instances. If you don't like their content then join an instance that is defederated from them. It's that simple.

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Usernameblankface 9 points 3 years ago

Too many reddit users have muddied the waters.

On first checking things out, I loved how the nasty responses common in reddit threads was very rare here. Arguments here are commonly well thought out and give the benefit of the doubt. As more redditers switch over, they're bringing the vitriol with them.

Also posting article links from Reddit. I prefer when the poster writes their own synopsis of what the article is about and why it's important. Links from Reddit tend to just repost the click bait garbage from over there.

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guts 9 points 3 years ago

Same redditors with toxic echochamber you are trying to avoid you find them here too. They think their political identity is all that matters.

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ilex 8 points 3 years ago

It's annoying how most Lemmy users strut around like they have flavorful, pristine cocks and/or meaty, robust vulvas. Stop being so constructive and fight me.

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deadcatbounce 8 points 3 years ago

That they haven't convinced the rest of the useful Reddit users to move across (and create/populate the equivalent /c/ I (used to) frequent for help and advice)! 😜

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FourzerotwoFAILS 8 points 3 years ago

posts decent content

Also in the post: “this was my top post from Reddit. Posting it here for the karma”

Just post it or post some new content.

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shinigamiookamiryuu 7 points 3 years ago

Nobody is nearly as casual.

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dylanTheDeveloper 3 points 3 years ago

The lack of sillyness is really depressing

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shinigamiookamiryuu 1 point 3 years ago

Wanna hear a joke?

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jarfil 1 point 3 years ago

Don't bother, it'll fall on deaf ears... *badum-tss*

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Ensign_Crab 6 points 3 years ago

Same as reddit, really: sealioning bigots.

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Skelectrician 6 points 3 years ago

This place is full of straight up brainwashed communists. I guess the whole free and decentralized thing kind of lends itself towards that crowd, but these people are fucking insane.

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nei7jc 5 points 3 years ago

Missing communities is my biggest complaint. There was r/teenagersbuthot which was actually an awesome welcoming community.

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5714 5 points 3 years ago

The Tankies, The Misogynists, The Nazis. Techbro/Gamer moments.

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gonzo0815 5 points 3 years ago

Cryprocultists are still around.

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Anamnesis 4 points 3 years ago

There aren't enough of them. I like having long comment threads to read with a feisty dialogue. It's not as fun when every post has 12 replies.

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ji88aja88a 4 points 3 years ago

Wow..this post got more air time than news items that matter 😂

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zecg 4 points 3 years ago

Generalizing based on others' preferred link aggregator.

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Neon_Dystopia 4 points 3 years ago
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BilboBargains 4 points 3 years ago

I'm trying to fill that niche

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Uncaged_Jay 4 points 3 years ago

I just got here so I'm not sure yet

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FinallyDebunked 4 points 3 years ago

Neckbeard basement dwellers imposing their shitty system on everybody in their sight

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AergisGeist 3 points 3 years ago
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Shanedino 3 points 3 years ago

For me it's the ability to directly upload videos and play them in app. Let me know if I'm just missing something but that is the thing really holding me back from wanting to post my bouldering(rock climbing) clips.

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Daft_ish 3 points 3 years ago

Their obsession with tankies. I get they were probably over represented but I'm telling you, they ain't it.

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HawlSera 3 points 3 years ago

Honestly my problem is not with limit users, as all in all they are far superior to Reddit users, but with the lack of specific content. I mean you have communities for gaming, but you don't have communities for specific games. I miss being able to have in-depth conversations about sonic, Five Nights at freddy's, and Mortal Kombat

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Kolanaki 2 points 3 years ago

I don't know if it's the users themselves or just the fact it's a smaller community as a whole, but I see way, way more drama posts about random things going on in niche parts of Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit. And unlike those on Reddit, most of these posts on Lemmy amount to nothing but the OP overreacting or reaching for the sake of being a victim. I can only think of one bit of drama that was legit, and that was the Ten Forward/Risa thing.

And it's not more or less annoying than Reddit, it's basically the same thing as the nazis but with a different flavor: the tankies. It's just... Weird. I'd never encountered that shit before.

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ColeSloth 2 points 3 years ago

About the users? Nothing.

How commenting flows and moves is a bit more of a pain to navigate, though.

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xkforce 2 points 3 years ago

Theres a lot more gatekeeping here than Id like and the amount Id like is zero.

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Hadriscus 2 points 3 years ago

I haven't been annoyed very much so far

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WhyDoesntThisThingWork 1 point 3 years ago
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ZombieTheZombieCat 1 point 3 years ago

They're either far-right/"both sides," or tankies defending China when no one even mentioned it.

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kent_eh 1 point 3 years ago

what is the most annoying thing you have seen about Lemmy users?

That far too many can't stop talking about reddit...

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Boomkop3 1 point 2 years ago

The bot spam is quite a bit worse, even when turning bots off

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Tenniswaffles 1 point 3 years ago

There's very little difference.

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Rooster 1 point 3 years ago
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infyrin 0 points 3 years ago
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Professorozone -2 points 3 years ago

The number of reddit users.

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Davidvanb -2 points 3 years ago

The word "tankie". Thanks to Sync for Lemmy, I'm going to set a keyword filter for it right now.

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Send_me_nude_girls -3 points 3 years ago

Nothing. I also think so far people here are smarter, repost less and are less toxic. But this will unavoidably change once Lemmy got bigger. We're just barely past "knowing users by name" stage. Too many people to bother but not enough to get lost in the noise yet. Quite comfortable.

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Lichu -3 points 3 years ago
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FrostbyteIX -3 points 3 years ago
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HakFoo -4 points 3 years ago

Needs way more Marxists.

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hal_5700X -4 points 3 years ago

Political extremists are about same as Reddit. If you're Left enough for them. They will miss you up.

All (but one) of the we need to defederate from [name of instance here] posts. I seen don't have proof (links or screenshots) to prove they're not lying. Nothing but trust me, bro.

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frozencat -7 points 3 years ago

All lgbtq all cat lovers

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habanhero -13 points 3 years ago

The sheer number of FOSSholes.

Edit: seems like I struck nerve. To be clear, I'm not talking about the FOSS enthusiasts or enjoyers, they are A-OK. I'm talking about the FOSS fanatics who derive joy from trashing everyone else's choice of software and look for every opportunity to push their doctrine. They are the FOSSholes.

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dylanTheDeveloper 2 points 3 years ago

Have you ever heard of our lord and saviour Linux?

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jarfil 0 points 3 years ago

You surely mean GNU/Linux.

(written from Android)

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lemann 1 point 3 years ago

Haven't heard this one before, i'll be stealing that word thanks 🤣👍

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