NEVER OBSOLETE

10 months ago by Ghostalmedia to c/lemmyshitpost

Ydna 153 points 10 months ago

I use that case for my work computer! It has a ryzen7 and RTX 2080. I had to hack the front USB to connect it with a modern mobo header, but it works...

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SubArcticTundra 73 points 10 months ago

Sleeper PCs are an art form

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felixwhynot 19 points 10 months ago

Where’s the radiator?

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Viking_Hippie 107 points 10 months ago

Right here, next to the fan:

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raspberriesareyummy 15 points 10 months ago

Take the upvote and gtfo ;p

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vaultdweller013 11 points 10 months ago

Does your fan not have its front shield or is it just a bad angle? If it doesn't I'd suggest you put it on, from experience those fuckers can break skin.

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Viking_Hippie 14 points 10 months ago

It doesn't, no. I accidentally put it on crooked when assembling it and bent it when trying to correct my error to the point that just taking it off was the only logical solution.

This one doesn't break skin, though. In fact, my cats have accidentally gotten their tail into it several times and reacted with only slight annoyance.

To put it another way: a toddler could stick their head into it and not cry when it hits them, it's THAT good at stopping gently when it encounters resistance 😁

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Scrollone 9 points 10 months ago

Damn, I don't know what it is, but your house looks completely Danish.

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Viking_Hippie 19 points 10 months ago

It's an apartment, but it's not so weird that it looks completely Danish since it IS completely Danish. As am I 😁

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Mrkawfee 7 points 10 months ago

How could you tell?

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rumba 2 points 10 months ago

Don't give LTT any ideas....

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Ydna 6 points 10 months ago

It's upward inside the drive bay, using a single 120mm fan and rad, then I perforated the case's top sheet metal with a new grid of holes for outlet airflow. Definitely not amazing cooling performance but hey. I had to slice the CDROM drive in half to make room for it... the floppy drive actually works but not the giant CDROM lol

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felixwhynot 2 points 10 months ago

Clever!

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idunnololz 14 points 10 months ago

I've always wanted to build a sleeper PC

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jaupsinluggies 10 points 10 months ago

I tried building a sleeper PC once but kept getting disturbed by trains.

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rumba 3 points 10 months ago

I want to do it in an old 8086 or maybe an IBM PS/2

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kamen 8 points 10 months ago

How's airflow?

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daggermoon 5 points 10 months ago

Is the floppy drive hooked up? I have a floppy drive in my modern machine.

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Blackmist 9 points 10 months ago

You need to get with the times, grandpa. Get yourself a Zip drive.

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daggermoon 2 points 10 months ago

Do Zip drives work with Linux?

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Blackmist 1 point 10 months ago

It looks like you could, but probably requires you to build a kernel that supports all the old crap they took out years ago.

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rumba 2 points 10 months ago

I had the WORST luck out of those. I had a dozen zip disks go bad and 1/3 Jaz drives.

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Blackmist 2 points 10 months ago

I guess the material of a floppy disc coupled with near HDD densities wasn't a good combination. Floppies would just randomly go bad at the best of times.

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Ydna 3 points 10 months ago

Yes I made the floppy drive work! There's a USB adapter hidden in the back, and modular power supply makes it simple to hook up. I actually use them at my job (machine shop) though we normally just use an RS-232 cable connection to transfer files, so disks don't get any actual use. I really wanted to ensure the 3.5 drive worked even though the CD-ROM doesn't work, I had to put the AIO radiator up there instead.

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JasonDJ 3 points 10 months ago

I haven't seen an FDD header on a motherboard since my P6T (with an i7-920). And even then, it wasn't worthwhile to use it.

Do you have a usb-fdd adapter? Or just a USB internal floppy drive?

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daggermoon 1 point 10 months ago path: 0 20780656 20783744 20785042 20791614, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Lost_My_Mind 57 points 10 months ago

Take me back. I don't like it in the future.....

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Ghostalmedia 27 points 10 months ago

I know a guy who can take you back for $120

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Mrkawfee 23 points 10 months ago

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gravitas_deficiency 11 points 10 months ago

Encarta was absolute fire back in the day, seriously

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Denjin 3 points 10 months ago

It's a jungle out there and I oughta know

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A_Random_Idiot 40 points 10 months ago

They were never obsolete because, as it says on the sticker (that no one on the internet can ever seem to be bothered to read), that you can replace it every 2 years for new, more modern system for only 99 bucks.

and quite frankly, thats a fucking steal, considering what PC prices were like back in the late 90s, and with how fast technology was advancing.

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Frenchgeek 23 points 10 months ago

The trick was closing down your PC company before the two years are out.

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Petter1 1 point 10 months ago

As it is with all “lifetime” subscription options

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Krudler 8 points 10 months ago

For crying out loud, thank you!

Power users didn't flock to these, but they were awesome for a certain demographic. Low skill early tech adopters. Grandma, grampa, mom and dad. Dudes out in rural areas, like my friend's dad, who only needed to use the PC for 30 minutes a day to keep his farm operation running and couldn't give 2 shits.

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A_Random_Idiot 4 points 10 months ago

Yep.

Several family members had these exact 433mhz emachines with the stickers. They were not power users, they were not gamers.. They were people who typed with one finger chicken pecking to check email

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Starski 2 points 10 months ago

Ah yes, totally legible sticker

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dontsayaword 34 points 10 months ago

Even when these first came out you had to know it was silly

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TimeNaan 25 points 10 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this was a programme where they would upgrade/replace your setup for free every year or so.

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tiramichu 15 points 10 months ago

That's right. There's an insightful blog article if you want to learn the full story.

You could get your PC upgraded for $99 if you also bought 24 months of dial-up Internet service through them. But you also had to pay shipping both ways, and be out the use of your computer while you did it! That seems so inconvenient I imagine almost nobody bothered. eMachines certainly expected people wouldn't, making the whole thing little more than a carefully calculated marketing tactic. And it worked.

That said, their machines were very competitively priced even without the upgrade deal, and it really disrupted the incumbents, making them good value machines even if you didn't take them up on the dubious "never obsolete" offer.

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OhStopYellingAtMe 25 points 10 months ago

I used to be a retail PC service tech back when these things were new. I remember scoffing at the “never obsolete” tag. They were obsolete while still new in the box.

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rumba 10 points 10 months ago

I worked in retail sales at the time.

customer: "What's the catch?"

me: "It's pretty slow now, if you keep it a couple years, you get to buy someone else's post upgrade for cheap assuming the company is still around, you don't get the replacement from us"

customer: "So what about those Compaq's?"

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ivanafterall 3 points 10 months ago

It's literally a computer. In your home. What would you even upgrade? Get two of them maybe?

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azimir 13 points 10 months ago

During the era it wasn't rare to upgrade components on the motherboard and ISA/PCI bus cards. We'd had some relatively stable CPU socket standards and you'd do things like change out CPU and ram for upgrades.

Was this a stupid marketing gimmick? Oh yeah. Was it unreasonable to talk about upgrading a system at home? Not really. We did do it for a while.

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mojofrododojo 20 points 10 months ago

viewsonic made some damn fine CRTs...

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Ghostalmedia 17 points 10 months ago

Mitsubishi Diamondtron or Sony Trinitron. That’s where the good stuff was.

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mojofrododojo 6 points 10 months ago

iirc Silicon Graphics crts were actually trinitrons after 92-3. of course a 21" crt weighed fuck all lol

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kamen 4 points 10 months ago

Weight aside, those took a lot of space too. Almost every CRT from that era was put in a desk corner, swivelled sideways, forcing you to turn sideways too - and many of those were 15-17". Now imagine 21...

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mojofrododojo 3 points 10 months ago

at one point I had a 17" (no name) and a 21" view sonic on the same desk bench, connected to a dual p2 (tyan mobo) machine I built running windows 2000, the first os I used that supported multiple monitors. our engineer custom designed the benches out of steel square tubing and laminate wood, they were great.

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RememberTheApollo_ 16 points 10 months ago

As much as love the clarity of modern high resolution LCD, I still miss the slightly fuzzy effect CRTs had on the displayed graphics. It was almost artificial AA. When I play old games I wonder why they look crappy. It’s because I can see the sharp edges vs the “soft filter” the CRT added.

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rumba 7 points 10 months ago

It was truly amazing how great SD looked on a 25" tv. 525 scan lines. Bright enough to sear your eyeballs. In a vacuum, they didn't even look fuzzy. But you put a 1080p full screen even on my WQHD and it looks like absolute trash :)

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captain_aggravated 3 points 10 months ago

It's like DVDs. DVDs looked great in 2002, compared to VHS or even broadcast TV, your new 32 inch "big screen" never looked as good playing a DVD over S-video. That same DVD in that same player attached by HDMI to a 45 inch 4k LCD looks grainy and horrid.

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underscores 3 points 10 months ago

When I was in highschool we installed StarCraft on the school network drive and played it fairly often. One time we were in the design class which has 1 set up with a CRT (I'm not sure why)

Naturally, I launched StarCraft on it and that game fucking came to life on a CRT, the color vibrance was much better, and there was a higher fidelity and depth to the graphics.

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SlartyBartFast 16 points 10 months ago

Never say never. The Ship of Theseus is never obsolete as long as regular maintenance occurs

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titanicx 11 points 10 months ago

Fuck yes. My first PC. It got me into It when I needed to fix the hdd when Windows 2k crashed.

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RattlerSix 10 points 10 months ago

My dad is still running this exact computer, but he only uses it to print one certain thing a month

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Krudler 1 point 10 months ago
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infinitesunrise 8 points 10 months ago

Where is the lie

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GreenShimada 9 points 10 months ago

I be there's a Linux distro that would run on it.

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elvith 6 points 10 months ago

There aren’t many i386 distributions anymore, but you should still have some selection, I think

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infinitesunrise 6 points 10 months ago

Yup there's still Debian support.

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gravitas_deficiency 5 points 10 months ago

Good ol’ Debian. The Chuck Testa of distros.

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defaultusername 5 points 10 months ago

AntiX runs great on my Pentium 3 rig.

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RizzRustbolt 2 points 10 months ago

That single computer is running all of chatGPT.

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r00ty 7 points 10 months ago

Well I mean it's true if you also belive trigger's broom in only fools and horses is still the same broom.

Probably only older people from the UK will get the reference. Sorry.

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makingrain 5 points 10 months ago
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frog_brawler 5 points 10 months ago
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Doomsider 5 points 10 months ago

Of all the machines an Emachine. Those were the cheapest and worst built computers ever. They were often obsolete the moment they were sold.

I guess that makes the irony even more delicious.

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SpookyBogMonster 3 points 10 months ago

Run protoweb on that bad boy, and keep it alive 😎

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Ghostalmedia 2 points 10 months ago

Is that like Compuserve 2000?

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SpookyBogMonster 7 points 10 months ago

https://protoweb.org/

It's a proxy server that works kind of like an Advanced version of the Wayback Machine. So old PCs like this, can connect to something like what the internet would've been like when they were first made.

I have the Protoweb browser on my Linux mint machine, running through wine. It's fun to poke around at, and great for internet archaeology

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dejected_warp_core 6 points 10 months ago

And just like that, the e-machine continues to fulfill its intended purpose: browse the internet like it's 1998. It's never obsolete, but you do need a time machine to take full advantage of it.

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psx_crab 3 points 10 months ago

If i have money i'd buy it just for the old time sake.

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Lawnman23 2 points 10 months ago

I still have two of these towers in my collection.

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InFerNo 2 points 10 months ago

120 is a steal!

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daggermoon 1 point 10 months ago

Looks pretty obsolete to me. I bet it can't even play my wavpack collection.

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