Trump, 79, Rants Incoherently About Robots and AI
8 months ago by return2ozma to c/technology
“We’re going to need the help of robots and other forms of, uhhh, I guess you could say employment,” he said, shrugging. “We’re going to be employing a lot of artificial things.”
This is not "pettiness". This is all part of a multi-generational psychological warfare operation to brainwash the working class and implement totalitarian dictatorship — started by the Koch Bros, Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch, and other wealthy narcissists several decades ago — and the fascists are winning; facilitated by "liberals" who are mostly a manufactured opposition, financed by the same corporations/oligarchs.
No war but class war, and the capitalist class is winning.
The rhetoric that politicians are idiots and they don't know what they're doing is also damaging, because it makes people assume stupidity rather than malice.
But it is malice. The incompetence is real, make no mistake, but malice is in fact the end goal.
When profits are involved, always assume malice.
The only time you should assume stupidity is when dealing with family, friends, colleagues, frontline workers, etc; basically anyone you interact with who wouldn't profit off the malice (eg the sales person or marketing team will lie to make a sale).
The rhetoric that all politicians are corrupt and evil is also extremely damaging, and is parroted strictly by conservatives and the daft-right who then go on voting for the most corrupt and evil ones every time.
Its also parroted by the left because we can see the corporate backers funding the various politicians.
Citizens United was the greatest coup the ruling class could have gotten (before social media anyway), and its made it trivial to corrupt our politicians. And we can see how stances change or how there's always juuuuuust enough politicians to vote for some horrible bill to pass or kill a bill good for the people. Its kinda sad how many people don't see this.
Never believe that anti-Semites [read: fascists] are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
--- Charlie Kirk RIP
Rest in piss indeed
Who was an embodiment of the quote above.
It’s easy to control sheep. Machiaveli wrote a literal guidebook in the 1500s. If you dumb them down and destroy free thought, you can rule as you see fit.
The multigenerational operation directly involves the defunding of, and attacks on, education. This isn't a this or that situation. ALL conservative and neoliberal policy since the 1970's is about destroying ALL socialist/liberal/democratic advances made to date, and returning the working class to ignorant destitution; much easier to control and brainwash mentally-ill morons (see MAGA).
It feels like some edgelord 4chan trolls have taken over the government
Exactly what happened. What are we going to do about it? I plan to create a self-sustainability community to at least drain their leverage a bit.
4chan played a non-insignificant part in getting MAGA in power. It always attracted throngs of alt-right morons who dominated the political discourse. Back when nazis were afraid to speak about their beliefs in public, the Internet quickly became their breeding ground and base of operations. They got in very early, and were always very good at dominating and influencing online sentiment.
Yup, and I was almost one of them. Can take a while to deprogram oneself. It literally took me being exposed to the wide world out of their little microcosim of understanding and rhetoric to see they were putting 2+2=9. Add in the neo-liberals who cozy up with them when anyone with a hint of progressivism gets popular or change is on the horizon. Then saying stuff like "they can still learn and understand."
Then we'd have President Vance and first Mistress Kirk. This cancer is going to take a while to cut out if it doesn't outright kill us.
Cult leaders need charisma and couchfucker ain't got it. He might end out pres in that hypothetical but he wouldn't have the implied maga threat behind him Trump does so I think he'd get a lot less of the agenda pushed.
He also race mixed which will cause some infighting that I feel will be as enjoyable as NYE fireworks 👌
(i have no problems there, but they sure as hell do, lmao)
I don't think they need to "win" any elections at all anymore. It won't matter who the repugs put up as a candidate, they will win. If a democrat wins in 2028 and there is a peaceful transition of power, I will never again claim any even borderline conspiratorial shit in my life, and so I swear.
Again, R's aren't scared of Vance, they absolutely believe Trump can throw down a "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" on Truth social. That translates to shit getting pushed back on a lot more for Vance.
Jd will not be nearly as bad as Trump. Stop pretending it's the same thing.
It doesn't matter if Trump dies, horribly or not, the energy that got Trump elected is still there in the American culture, and the next time it rears its head it'll be a lot more competent and far more vicious.
There is no “-ism” that can save the US anymore
They need a revolution and a new system. More than two parties and limits on presidential power
multipartyism
It doesn't work on a large scale because people with Cluster B personality disorders will always corrupt any system we come up with.
And historically those systems are typically structured in a way that allows authoritarianism and dictators to take over more quickly. The government has to control everything, which creates a much smaller point of failure.
Capitalism is a shit system, but it took ~200 years to corrupt to this point because the power is more distributed (at first).
Reduced pay? If the rich get their way, we're going to be chattel slaves. They hate us so much and are so disgusted with us, even the worst wage slavery is too good for us.
They'll kill off the unclean and disabled in mass exterminations, enslave us for a time while/if their ai gets good enough, and eventually when robots are good enough to replace even slaves, the rich will hunt us for sport and do coloseum games on us.
People really underestimate how fucking awful the ruling class is. They are wicked, despicable people who genuinely think anything above slavery and bowing to them is too good for us poors.
There is a word for the future you are describing: exterminism.
Sadly the world appears to be heading that way. This is the most bleak future described in one of my favorite books- Four Futures:Life After Capitalism
It's a quick read . .and highly recommended. https://www.versobooks.com/...
They're already openly talking about a techno-feudalist state in the USA. The rich are a blight, and until people realize that we'll continue to lose.
Unless WE give the robots some rather interesting military jobs first.
Would not even need an AM to do that to some people {=
They have much debt to pay, oh so much.
109 years is not nearly enough, is it?
Hmm?
And this will benefit the average worker by giving him more free time while keeping his job and salary, right?
This dumb fucking child rapist
More people are working right now in the United States than at any other time in our history.
The same can be said year on year every single year (except 2020) due to population and economic growth.
What he doesn't say is that the divergence between the average wage and the cost of living has never been greater. So, while more people are available to work, they are earning less per hour in bread and bricks than they were 5, 10, 15, 20 (etc.) years ago.
Have some self-respect. Don't feed The Daily Beast.
I blocked /c/politics over this, but it seems like none of the big .world communities care about tabloid sourced/clickbait headlines.
And, unfortunately, clickbait works. They always float up to the top of Active.
It's the only one reporting what he said
I am once again begging people not to post a headline that starts with “Trump, 79,” that doesn’t end with. Well. You know.
My parents aren't much younger than him and every time he speaks I worry for their health.
That's honestly probably the most rational thing he does.
And do they also have late stage syphilis? Why is nobody talking about that one, it's obvious. The patchy hair loss, the blemishes, the cognitive decline, the bizarre thick facial makeup. You know why the French covered their faces and hands with that thick white lead based paint back in the 1700s and wore wigs? Because of syphilis.
It fits the timeline perfectly if you consider how he was living in the 80's-90's, and how obviously he would never go have it checked out because he's a narcissistic piece of dumb shit.
(It also tangentially explains Trump's bizarre emotional affiliation with the late great Alphonse Capone)
Not that I'm aware of...
To think Trump 1.0 was an improvement over this shit show.
Trump 1.0 he was actually there still, easily manipulated but still there. Now he's just a puppet with dementia.
Nah, 1.0 was only better because he spent the whole time figuring out wtf to do. He didn't even know he had to hire his own cabinet. 2.0 is the result of those four years of realizing the power and protection of the position, and another four of teams of knowledgeable people working hard to make sure this term would be the last they'd ever need.
Yeah... it is. It doesn't matter if you think it's good or bad, it's technology.
I think they're referring to the political article and the community within which it has been posted, not that AI isn't technology.
But aren't most posts here about AI? I figured talking about technology would be fair game.
This is an article about a sad, inept, old man's ramblings, tangentially related to technology. Not nearly worth posting about in this community - in my opinion, of course.
The Technology place here is exactly the same as it is on Reddit.
Nothing but constant AI stuff.
Finally a headline that correctly describes the situation.
Then we get Vance. Whooo!
At least Vance is so uncharismatic that if he even thought about pulling the shit trump does the maga base would eat him alive
Only if Americans accept that instead of doing what they should, which is arrest them all and do to them what your precious constitution says should happen to traitors who commit treason.
I hope this was his last merry Christmas. I hope we’re getting close to his Mussolini ending
And hung for public viewing. I mean we all know maga is feral so 🤞🏼
Trump is nothing more than an incoherent buffoon. How long can he be propped up and worshipped like this? To the majority of Europeans, doing business with the US is considered far too untrustworthy. Our elected officials know this because we make it clear. Sadly, we too have buffoons arising and gaining power here. If they to get in, we are all fucked.
beginning of this headline got my hopes up that he finally croaked. fuckers.
When was the last time he ranted coherently? 95?
I'd say '92. I think he had a full coherent sentence in Home Alone 2.
I wish Biden was still president.
He was one of the best presidents since Jimmy Carter and the country and the world would be better off with him in power vs Trump.
That just goes to show how bad the US is at electing leaders. Just terrible, even when good options do exist, to the point that I still don’t fully believe Mamdani is the New York Mayor.
That’s because he’s not until January 1, 2026.
It's because when you put a piece of ripe fruit into raw sewage it doesn't make the sewage suddenly drinkable, but suddenly I no longer want to eat the fruit. But hey with enough fruit and time that makes a farm, idk I'm trying to be positive here. Forget aboutit
Does that mean you’re happy with the way Trump is handling things?
He’s still alive.
He’s better than Trump.
Trump is the one who told you he hid the cancer diagnosis.
Harris was VP and would have became the president if he died.
All of these are facts and would have lead to a better present than now so what the fuck are you on about?
No, likely a leftist. There's two people who hate Biden, the MAGAts and leftists. Biden did some good things but so did Trump, broken clock metaphor. Biden also slow walked us into this by not persecuting Trump for sedition like he should have. It makes the "paid opposition" argument much harder to dismiss of the neo-liberal dems.
Biden doesnt control the DOJ. He doesnt decide how and when someone should be persecuted. Trump does this and its wrong. The list of good things Biden did is very long, with trump its maybe one or two things if that while the list for bad stuff is huge. There is no comparison.
Nobody in the AI industry, tech, or government cares. He says all the buzzwords and gives them all what they want. What he says is basically irrelevant at this point. Until something actually happens we're all gonna read about some sort of "gotcha" moment every day as if it makes a difference so we can have our rage moments and move on after we get our dopamine hit by calling him a moron.
Not talking shit on anyone here, I'm just tired. And I'm tired of seeing a similar headline day after day as if it changes anything.
Spot on. It's exhausting
Old man yells at clouds!
its a reaction to "look over here, instead of the epstein files" reaction. at some point even thier supporters will get tired of him repeating the same again and again,.
This is sleepy Joe's fault. I know it.
You know the reason they are using terms like "employment"... Next step: We've now managed to include AIs and automated robots in jobs numbers! Now we can report 700% employment, while everyone starves away hoping for a chance at a job.
The pictures on the stands looks like .... no look exactly like the boxes of the Revell model kits
Can't you picture him and Stephen PeeWee Himmler Miller browsing the Google images together, looking for ideas for his Frankenbattleship?
"Oooh, look at that one. Wicked cool, right? I want something like that, but with bigger guns. And more of'em. And lots of real gold. All those other assholes got yachts, but I got a Trump-class battleship!"
Götterdämmerung?
"Trump, Old Fuck, Rants Incoherently About Some Random Topic" is one of the most tiring headlines.
what is the actual rate of unemployment within the technology industry? surely it's higher than any of the numbers that are being reported by the government.
if I run out of money before finding a job, I'm killing myself
It was propaganda before, it didn't include people who were working a handful of hours and unable to support themselves and unemployed who said they weren't actively seeking a job.
Trump's issue wasn't that it was intentionally deceptive, only that the lies weren't far enough from reality.
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The pettiness is unreal.
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