This cannot possibly hold up in court. You cant just advertise a product and then be like "*but actually we might be lying about some or all of these things"??? What the fuck are you selling then
They "cannot guarantee" the product description of the 1.3k dollar laptop theyre selling is accurate because they used chatgpt to write it
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This cannot possibly hold up in court. You cant just advertise a product and then be like "*but actually we might be lying about some or all of these things"??? What the fuck are you selling then
How'd you know it was Samsung? Honestly I don't know if I've ever seen a Samsung laptop even through a screen
I think they’re assuming it’s a Samsung computer because it mentions phone link can connect to a Galaxy smartphone. Seeing as that’s the name of the program provided by Microsoft (which will connect to any smartphone) I’m assuming whatever ad copy this shitty llm ate to regurgitate this slop used a Galaxy phone as an example
Likely is, but not necessarily. Lot of scam listings just toss in "works with popular brand of thing" for ad space filler.
Yeah, but it also admits that it is AI generated. And Phone Link is the name used by a few different services, the most common made by Microsoft directly, so specifying Galaxy phones over Android on general is suspect.
That being said, AI doesn't usually pull out quite such specific and relevant terminology unless prompted to include it.
That's definitely not Samsung's website though. Wonder how they'd feel about this
I had one once, it did this magic trick where it would get too hot and shutdown even in the winter.
I pine for the days of the classy-looking lavender VAIO notebooks.
The old Vaio 's that sony made were pretty solid
I take my Vaio on the go from time to time but similarly don't often see much else but Macbooks. People with tablets and keyboards are becoming a more common sight though.
I've understood things about Macbooks back in the early 2010s when I saw a manager at my job holding his Air, open, by the corner while gesticulating. A contemporary Vaio would've snapped in half from such treatment.
Anecdotally, I just picked mine up in a similar fashion and despite being uncomfortable from the imbalance, it seems to hold up fine. Might depend on the gesticulation factor - I gave it a 'tree in the breeze' sort of motion but not a 'wacky inflatable tube man' kind haha.
i am playing bitcraft on my galaxy book rn
Send us $1300 and we will send you... something?
1.3k dollar
Or not. They could just as well not send anything at all and still meet the standards of that label.
I recently ran into this issue with a coffee pot. I was specifically hunting for a coffee pot with an adjustable temperature warmer. Ordered one that specifically stated that in the description, only to receive a coffee pot that did not have that feature. Checked the model number on the box versus the listing, and it's the same. Then I saw the fine print: we are not responsible for inaccurate product information.
What country? In many, this is straight up false advertising and you're entitled to a refund.
At their expense for shipping, no less. Nothing that a charge back won't fix - with all the evidence ready to go) https://www.accc.gov.au/...
Sales bs has been totally disconnected from actual specs for a long time. Like shopping for hardware a few years ago, I could not rely on any sales garbage for info. I only looked for verifiable model numbers and then looked them up on linux-hardware.org because those scans list everything the Linux kernel discovered.
Imagine getting a sale from a storefront you didn’t consent to being listed on, with an inaccurate description of your product.
Door dash does it if the restaurant doesn't give enough information. They will even use AI generated photos. I'm very confused as to how it is legal. I'm guessing it is not, but there's nobody in charge anymore.
Or just copy pasting from the spec sheet
I'd guess they're basically inputting the spec sheet and original description to spit out a more "unique" description.
I'd bet they still even have the spec sheet there and the description is what the disclaimer is talking about.
"windows 11" "smooth computing experience" yep that's AI alright.
Smoothbrain computing experience
i would argue it's not intellligent at all
Brilliant 😂
It's the post truth world so many wanted.
Was just arguing about the usefulness of AI as a tool with someone on here, and he said that AI consistently making mistakes is a great way to improve critical thinking skills, because it challenges you to figure it out on your own after AI fails.
So what I'm saying is, that was an absolute rubbish take, and shit like this is going to be the downfall of the internet. The internet was such a wonderful, useful tool, and now look at how they massacred my boy 😞
Imagine being so lazy that you can't even write a description of your own product to sell. How do you not know your own product?
100% agree with that. Specs would be online by the supplier/manufacturer
I recently tried asking Amazon's AI a simple question about a product that had hundreds of reviews. It was a cheap thing, and I admit I was too lazy to verify the info so I went with what the AI said and bought it, and guess what the AI was just completely wrong and now Amazon is paying for me to ship it back.
Lpt: don't buy shit on Amazon. Ever. Never. Never ever ever.
Yeah! I'll just visit one of the many mom-and-pop sto... oh
Other websites exist lol
'don't buy from that conglomerate, buy from this one, silly'
But it's on Amazon to expect you to rely on the information their AI gives. I plan my programs how people act not how I want them to act
I'm definitely more eBay luckily only time I deal with AI is if I'm writing a description for a new in box toy
Then why are they using Windows
They need to be held accountable for every single issue until they realize AI is not the way.
I mean, this kind of missing why AI is so favoured by capitalists despite its obvious unsustainability. AI is already extremely overvaluated for a number of reasons, but its speculative ability to expand corporate ownership of consumer computing while eliminating/devaluing human labour created a potentially infinite vector of growth in a stagnating industry. Because all of these companies invested so heavily into this, largely in a scramble over intellectual property, they were able to realize numbers for this speculative value. Since immaterial financialization is the only kind of growth in a system that is so imcompatible with material reality, these companies have no other option but to adopt the technology, as to deny it would mean that they are not following a profitable vector of growth.
It's a very perfect situation to demonstrate exactly why capitalism is an unsustainable system. Infinite growth and profit imperatives literally makes it impossible to make effective decisions.
"Held accountable" doesn't mean anything wuthin this system, as the legal framework is designed to the interests of capital. They will not choose to stop because neoliberal politics and economic have constructed the state as a viable vector of revenue and risk absorption should any of these gambles fail (especially after the '08 recession).
With accountability I mean I will send everything back if the description doesn't match the product I bought. And as I live in the European Union, I will be getting my money back.
The revolution will take care of that.
Companies have to maximize their revenue by their own bylaws and the law as a result. Yet in doing things like outsourcing manufacturing, or going over to ai, they destroy the economy that they feed off of. Removing workers getting paychecks that are buying their stuff. None can or indeed would not replace workers if they can make a short-term buck, even as doing that will send the economy into a doom spiral and make us all poorer.
Yes, these are all good examples of how these imperatives manifest in law and why they are so unsustainable. Capitalism is not capable of long-term planning because of this, it depends on an immaterial world to exist and therefore does not consider the reality of the world it exists in.
When they say it can do jobs, they aren't actually claiming that it can, what they're saying is that they can argue that it can, and that creates its own value. They've fired and rehired people, done layoffs, cut wages, cut salary and contract benefits; all of this makes labour cheaper, which validates that value and raises the speculative value.
This isn't an AI regulation thing.
It could say this was made by a marketing fuckboy and it'd be the same.
This is a consumer protection thing...
or we can simply apply false advertising if the ai gets something wrong, like how that lawyer that disbarred for using ai to write his court papers and cited a case that never happened
Yeah, when the other commenters mentioned consumer protection laws, they meant that it would be a case of false advertising.
There's also been a similar case before, where Air Canada got sued, because their chatbot promised to a customer that he could apply for one of their bonus programs after the flight, which then got denied by Air Canada: https://www.mccarthy.ca/...
In that particular case, it might have helped, if the chatbot had a disclaimer that it's lying, but only because Air Canada provided the truthful information elsewhere on their webpage. That's not gonna be the case for such product descriptions...
Truth in advertising was killed off in the 80's.. They can basically say whatever they want now and little ever gets done.
Technically they're not a single 360° hinge. They're actually two 180° hinges that are very close to each other with a short link. I've got one right here.
I was gonna say I thought I remembered some of the lenovos doing it, but after poking around I'm pretty sure they only do like 300º instead

There's some "2-in-1 laptops", which you can fold over fully:

The keyboard disables when you do that, so that you can hold it like a tablet.
But yeah, as someone else said, it still isn't actually one hinge that goes 360°, but rather two hinges chained together.
Ah yeah, damn, I put a different one in.
lemmy.ml has an automatic image proxy, which is in theory really cool, because it prevents requests from going out to all kinds of webpages, but sometimes it fails to process the image and I can only check after I've hit "Reply"...
I hate these. Super fragile hunge and I never see any laptop or tabtop used like that
I had one with a similar hinge and it never felt fragile. Of course I never tried to use it like in the picture, that just seems silly.
I've got a bridge to sell. It's about yay high and goes all the way across. It is colored #9aae07.
of course it is.
I do not get it, how much effort would a product description possibly be to instead use ai? This is not a one off, even before these llm ai systems a lot of instruction manuals in cheap crap you buy were written by machines, very badly.
They are presumably paying people to be executives and board members and managers, but they can't be bothered to pay someone a few hours to write a product description accurately? We have all the wrong people in charge in this country. Because they can not even write an accurate product description they chose to.
Weird thing is that every produce has a spec sheet you could literally save money by having an AI crank out text and spent 5c per item to make sure it actually matches the spec sheet.
Wait, this is on Best Buy?!
I hope somebody sues them for an unreasonable amount of money, and then wins even more - enough to get the attention of other companies that are considering this.
Laziness/overenthusiastic cost cutting is NOT an excuse for false advertising.
SO many problems would go away if people stopped being greedy assholes. Since this problem was created by greedy assholes, the best way to get their attention is, ironically, by suing them for a staggering amount of money (which could be misconstrued as greed).
Looks like you didn't just save 450, you saved a full 1300 by not buying it from them
The idea that a company could sell anything while giving out inaccurate information about the product up-front strikes me as utterly bizarre and unimaginable. at least in germany that would be considered "fraud" and definitely you'd have a right to get your money back.
Name and shame. Send the link so we can blast this bullshit.
Average Amazon experience these days (stop buying from them, enshitification is strongly progressed there)
It’s often pricey now, too.
I try but I semi frequently buy things that are obnoxiously niche, VGA to HDMI connector being the last one. But also I probably buy one or two things a year at most so there's that.
Eh, nothing new. For the past few years I’ve had to shop though manufacturer spec pages anyway.
Retailers know most shoppers aren’t careful, though.
Instruction manuals for all sorts of cheap chinese made crap are written by machines, there are all sorts of errors and weird wordings in it too. It's been like that for at least ten years, before so called ai was released to the public.
Fine until manufacturers start doing it too
Of course it’s BestBuy….
Gee, sounds a lot like you’re trying to boycot humans at your company… right back at ya assholes.
So glad I did not try and get that English degree
ChatGPT, generate me some images matching this description I can use for an Ebay listing
To anyone who's stuck on doing product descriptions and decide to use AI - have you heard of improv?
Yes and?
Joke’s on you, ChatGPT bought it in the background while showing you a very NSFW ad. That’ll be $200 please.
Pre-nstalling Windows 11 Home on a laptop that's over 1k is very disrespectful to both the buyer and the hardware.
Hope it at least comes in S Mode. /s
Im not surprised that Samsung would cut every possible corner on their absurdly expensive laptop
HAHAHA holy shit!!
They can go fuck themselves.
Based on the font for the pricing and the add to cart/pickup buttons, I'm thinking this is Best Buy
I really thought the way this would shake out is what the end user would own all the assistant chatter and the mistakes it made and businesses would generate easily machine parsable shit for YOUR assistant to parse to make it easy for your agent to both inform you and lessen the friction for the actual sale eg lenovo hp dell etc would provide machine parseible specs and you would conversationally find an item and end up with it in a cart but the last step would be human crafted UI where you would agree to buy exactly what it was you were buying and you were responsible for reading it because THAT not your prior chat with YOUR agent was what they were responsible for.
@lemmy.world
This is a community for designs specifically crafted to make the experience worse for the user. This can be due to greed, apathy, laziness or just downright scumbaggery.
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@lemmy.world
This is a community for designs specifically crafted to make the experience worse for the user. This can be due to greed, apathy, laziness or just downright scumbaggery.
go to feed...
Do not buy that laptop. If they cut corners on the fucking description, who knows what else they'll cut corners on.
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