JUST IN: Trump Admin Reportedly Making ‘Heavy Preparations’ for Putting Boots on the Ground in Iran
3 months ago by RandAlThor to c/news
Iran also has a lot experience with drone warfare since they're supplying Russia with drones and have people operating and learning in an active war. Meanwhile the US hasn't really fought against drones in a real war and they refused help from Ukraine one of the countries at the forefront of drone warfare.
I wonder how long will Trump stay in office when the internet starts getting videos of American soldiers getting killed by drones just like the ones with Russian soldiers we have right now.
Trump has raped children, is a convicted felon, and demolished part of the White House. He's threatened reporters with execution, demanded personal enrichment as part of foreign trade, incited a terrorist attack on the Capitol building, and then pardoned the terrorists convicted of their crimes. He has openly solicited bribes and disclosed classified data to our enemies that resulted in the deaths of American agents abroad.
His supporters will not move an inch regardless of how many soldiers they see dying.
I've been around for over 4 decades and the only thing I've ever seen conservatives give a fuck about were gas prices, unborn babies (specifically), and people with not white skin becoming president.
Note: Specifically unborn babies because they don't give a flying fuck about kids after they're born. That's why they voted for a party that is currently obliterating child cancer research and are against free school lunches.
That's because Conservativism isn't really am ideology. It's psychological cover for being selfish. Conservatives define their core values based on whatever is good for the people within the Conservative group. They believe that they are the good people, the special people, and that they are entitled to whatever they want. Anyone that stands in their way is evil. Any facts that challenge their world view are lies. Any crimes they commit in service to their goals are justified.
Conservatives don't care about gas prices or unborn babies or racism unless those issues help them get elected. Conservatives get abortions when they want them. They will even blame other people getting abortions "for no reason" as the reason why they can't get their own "totally justified and moral" abortion.
They start wars, make trade agreements, and deregulate inustries that raise gas prices, because someone is getting rich from the high gas prices. When Conservatives are in charge and prices go up, they will tell you it is your patriotic duty to fuel up you SUV and drive around.
Even the racism is entirely user dependent. Black conservatives, Latino conservatives, Asian conservatives, Jewish conservatives, Islamic conservatives, Russian conservatives, they all hate someone and they all pretend to be the most persecuted people. It doesn't matter if they all hate the same people, as long as they hate somebody.
This is not politics. It's pathological narcissism.
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the plain and stark language. I’m so tired of the sane washing, I’m so tired of skirting the issue. We need to accept and then figure out how to deal with the facts.
It’s not his supporters I’m worried about, it’s the apathy and impatience of the average american voter that does.
Yeah, GOP voters have always been a lost cause. The real question is what impression do the idiot swing voters have of him these days.
I genuinely disagree only because, for so many of his supporters, it is their children. I don't think it will change them as people or their politics as a whole but it will effect Republican chances in the next election. If we have legitimate elections at all. I'm almost certain there will be armed feds at polling stations to "protect them" and fearmongering about Iranian hackers tampering with the results.
there will be armed feds at polling stations to "protect them"
Y'know, if this happens, assuming the machines aren't rigged, screw it...We should all be showing up in our gawdyest American flag apparel and cargo shorts and maybe even stupid little red hats. Blend right in, maybe on the way in even fist bump a fed goon with a "Herl yer, bruther." ...and vote the right way right under their stupid noses.
Drop the ego, become invisible, become inevitable. We have only our chains to lose and everything to gain.
Yeah but this could make gas prices go up.
It's just a progressive conspiracy and brown people are at fault.
Until he dies.
If un-armed Americans getting killed at home didn't get him removed, armed Americans getting killed overseas won't get him removed, no matter what happens he will refuse to leave office alive.
There's 300 million of you and 1 of him, do the whole world a favour AND FUCKING K-[Redacted for legal reasons but you get the idea].
The people who got Trump elected will find another hack celebrity.
Trump has no magic powers beyond "name recognition", really, another "star". There will be another. And another. And another. Trump will be replaced immediately. The same filthy rich vampires will continue to "donate" and keep them elected.
USA is openly pay-for-play now, they don't even bother to hide it. Look who shared the stage with him when he won... and those were the dumb ones.
when the internet starts getting videos of American soldiers getting killed by drones just like the ones with Russian soldiers we have right now.
The difference is the videos will only come from official Iranian government sources since there is otherwise an internet blackout in Iran, to which the Trump admin will obviously respond "it must be AI, cannot be trusted, Iranian government propaganda." Meanwhile, like during Iraq, "embedded" US journalists will present a more rosy view of the conflict for US viewers at home while minimizing coverage of mounting evidence that the stories are true as US soldiers start leaking video themselves as conditions worsen.
He will stay in office until the midterms or Democrats are lucky enough to swing the midterms instead of handing Trump his stupid shit SAVE Act to fuck up the midterms. If that doesn't happen, he will be in office until he is dead, and there is almost assuredly no coming back from this, despite how notoriously stupid the entire Trump administration is.
best time to buy is when there is blood in the streets, republicans are disaster capitalists...they're actively trying to collapse the markets so they can profit from it.
they do it everytime they're in power, it's a pretty obvious cycle tbh...every recession the last 50 years happened under a republican administration
Oh sweet, the "good cop" term is on the way to save the day! I am sure that they will fix everything and punish those bad cops this time! I CAN FEEL IT
Watching the glue factory footage yelling “it’s AI” all the way down
also they usa does poorly against insurgency, which iran has expertise in, plus they have other contingencies to prevent thier own govt downfall, thier leader got replaced almost as fast as he was killed.
He is doing what putin tells him.
And to those who say that Russia and Iran are allies. Russia was never a true ally with anyone, it is just partnership of convenience. US destroying itself in Iran has massive benefit for Russia.
And the fact that US did this and also lifted sanctions on Russia and Belarus is clear demonstration that US is ruled by Russian agent.
Please just think about this for 5 minutes.
Russia's economy is about the same size as California's. They can no longer afford the President, Russia needs to step it up and give him a jet, a few hotels, or something to compete.
It's all legal, none of this matters.
through him likely, they have infilitrated the GOP since then, moscow mitch, rand paul i believe,,,etc. and everyones "favorite" tulsi gabbard.
probably have more on him than it is in Epstein files.
What more could there be?
If Trump would be a liability the billionaires would start an impeachment. Trump and the files are the distraction.
The files show that nothing happens, no matter the accusation. Russia can't blackmail Trump. Blaiming Russia for Trump is just helping Americans to accept Trump because they don't have to feel responsible.
The US has been buying Uranium, and I think even oil, the entire time from Russia, despite the sanctions. Lifting sanctions for other countries just prevents that they start decoupling from the US.
March 13 (Reuters) - The United States issued a 30-day waiver for countries to buy sanctioned Russian oil and petroleum products currently stranded at sea
Yeah? Tell me which country benefits most from the current situation? What has Iran to offer right now when Russia is producing their Shaheds domestically? Do you even think Russia would want Iran on any new countries to have nukes? The only thing putin cares is Iran seeing US and the West as their sworn enemies.
You know very little about Russia and recent events if you believe there are any agreements or alliances Russia honors.
LOL, so he lifted sanctions on Russia, Belarus and now Iran: https://www.reuters.com/...
I'm wondering about how they're going to get them there in the first place. Both landing craft and rotorcraft are going to be very vulnerable if our air power can't silence Iranian fire (which is seemingly the whole reason why this is "necessary").
It takes $500 to stop an oil tanker because they’re, well, floating buckets of flammable material, with no armouring or defense capability.
It takes a lot more to stop an amphibious landing.
also iran is much larger, and mountainous than afghanistan.
The US military has long been obsessed with World War II era tactics. Which essentially amounts to "We've got more troops than you, and we've given them bigger guns".
But this strategy hasn't been relevant since the end of the Cold War. Why would I care how many soldiers you have stationed at an important facility when I can just blow said important facility up with my big bomb? Their presence is irrelevant. Now that drone combat is so prevalent the number of troops you have is even less relevant.
Iran has essentially managed to defeat the United States without any of their troops moving beyond their border.
I’m not a USA latter 20th century historian - have they actually won a war since WWII
The military can win a war, you just have to be willing to sterilize an entire population to do it. Politics is the issue there.
While the Korean was hasn't officially ended, I'd say South Korea came out ahead.
If you count conflicts like Syria and Iraq, the US achieved the goal of toppling their leaders. But in none of those cases were they successful in creating a democratic government.
It will be more like Afghanistan. Iran is mostly mountainous and guerilla warfare will be the default. The US relies too much on technology which will not that useful in that environment. Don't forget that the Iran army has been training for years for this type of conflict. Afghanistan was a disaster for American troops but will be nothing compared to Iran.
Afghanistan, but with a military with more plans and more space and more resources. It’ll redefine the meaning of “don’t conduct a land war in Asia”
I also wonder if the Iranian soldiers are willing to die for the regime or not. Like the Iraq invasion was relatively easy because the nation was fragmented and divided under Saddam and many soldiers deserted and surrendered quickly.
Of course the occupation was a different matter.
Whatever disagreements they have with the regime, they are rallying around the flag. Now they could peel off the kurds, except they already betrayed the kurds multiple times, and this administration explicitly has. Allowing Turkey to target them and such.
This US administration has no credibility, and no trust, and they are too dumb, mean, greedy, and short sighted to do empire successfully.
Say it with me, folks:
YOU WILL DIE FOR OIL SO THAT THE EPSTEIN CLASS STAYS WEALTHY.
Don’t forget Israel, you die for the Epstein class AND Israel.
Born too early to deploy to the Middle East. Born too late to deploy to the Middle East. Born just in time to deploy to the Middle East.
God bless America and it’s love for forever wars in the Middle East.
One of my life's greatest accomplishments is not serving the American military. I take pride in it.
Lol well, did his shithead dad serve when he was drafted?
Look at the bright side, at least we're not falling for that climate hoax that all those rich, corrupt researchers keep pushing. With their environmentally conscious policies and clean energy, blech! Can you imagine how much worse it would be if we had continued to give them free reign to manipulate our govt?
Dying for Epstein to own the libs.
lol Americans bout to die for Epstein
epstein and israel.
Epstein was working on behalf of Israel, so yeah. Americans are dying for Israel. Again.
That's cool, where are the Epstein files, you vile fucker?
Die for pedophiles boys
It will be more like Afghanistan. Iran is mostly mountainous and guerilla warfare will be the default. The US relies too much on technology which will not that useful in that environment. Don't forget that the Iran army has been training for years for this type of conflict. Afghanistan was a disaster for American troops but will be nothing compared to Iran.
Why? They chose to sign up to go kill people in another country. They are adults right?
You know, there's a term used for Russian soldiers in Ukraine that's apt, Orcs. The american soldiers just might be Orcs as well this time if they do this.
Civilians lives are alwaya valuables, soldiers in a war where they are on the aggressed are always valuable, soldiers who is part of of the nation who is the agressor was never valuable.
It’s going to be worse.
In Vietnam, the us had South Vietnamese troops to use as a distraction. We’re not going to have that in Iran, cause it looks like the cia can’t start a revolution for once.
That the AI fault.
If we had not already betrayed the Kurds multiple times, I say we I mean them, I am constitutionally opposed to them, but they could use the kurds to break off in a separate republic, that would create a shit storm with turkey but fuck turkey seriously.
You promise me that?
I'm sure we'll find some Kurds that will trust us again.
Sure the suckers stationed there will be sitting ducks, they will have to dig in, park a patriot battery and missile defense there, and then sit back and let the deciders collect kickbacks for the billions in missile defense they use. And batter back.
If you clear out everyone within 30km and set up a minefield, plentiful aa, and build anti fpv stuff it could be held
Yeah, but see, the US learned their lesson during the Iraq and other conflicts, so it will be quite different this go-round!
Man's never seen a topographical map of Iran and thinks that putting boots on the ground will work in those mountains.
We're going to se a whole lot more flag draped coffins stacked in amazon vans.
I've already seen the pictures posted by soldiers of the great meals they suddenly, recently received
The Steak and Lobster dinner was a surefire sign.
I'd have hated to be one of the people fixing the Gerald Ford carrier's toilets pupling tshirts out of that mess.
But they did so well in Vietnam's jungles … /s
They should put his boots on the ground there. With him wearing them, of course.
Two reasons for that: After he missed out Vietnam, he now has the chance to rectify this blunder. And: He can do everything perfectly (at least according to himself), so he should be a good leader and go first, leading his troops into battle like the kings of old.
Honestly it would be interesting just to see what he thinks constitutes good tactics. I'm guessing he would just attempt a running charge, as unsuttle and highly unlikely to succeed, does seem to be his modus operandi.
Yes, unfortunately the only way MAGA americans will learn is when their sons and daughters are needlessly murdered in a random country, to protect a massive sex trafficking, child-raping pedophile from facing justice.
Also send Stephen Miller over there too, just for good measure. Let's see how much of a patriot he really is.
They'll just shrug and say it was worth it. Like that kid that died from measles whose parents considered death to be a better outcome than getting the vaccine.
And when their own child is turned into ground beef in that random country and they speak out against it, they'll be banished from the conservative sphere and treated like pariahs.
Also send Stephen Miller over there...
That's too much of a war crime (even for them).
You don't have to obey illegal orders. You can say no.
Frag your superior officers as an alternative
It's not an illegal order to just get on a plane to kuwait, and Iran being on every rogue state list there is makes plenty of theoretical legal arguments for it.
On Thursday, Trump told reporters that he wasn’t “putting troops anywhere,” before adding the caveat that if he was going to do so, he “certainly wouldn’t tell” the press.
So....... he's gonna put boots on the ground. Got it.
"You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?"
Can we in the rest of the world not get involved in yet another ground war in the Middle East?
Yes, as far as I can tell, no sane "ally" of the US has agreed to help.
Must be nice living in a country where the people learn from the last idiotic forever war that the US started in the middle east.
Unfortunately there are signals that allies are starting to acquiesce. Keir Starmer is sending the Navy to help ships navigate the strait, while Iran is bombing our bases so it's a guarantee that our ships will be attacked, drawing us into another forever war for the United Pedos of America. The rest of the government are telling him it's going to bankrupt us, but he's too fucking stupid to see that, that's the whole point of this war. To pull in NATO to put pressure on their economies, leading to a reduction of support for Ukraine. All because America elected a black man a decade ago.
Unfortunately the british government has allowed bombers to fuel, arm and launch from air bases in the UK (and have been actively supporting a certain occupation/genocidal state for the past 80)
Genuinely what benefit is there in supporting a genocide?
At this point the UK is painting a target on their backs by funding the occupation qnd ethnic cleansing of Palestine, as well as arming America's bombers for attacks on Iran.
Well where CAN we start a ground war then? Sheesh.
/s
Based on my assumption that we live in the stupidest timeline, I predict that Trump will actually fulfill his promise to not put boots on the ground in Iran.
The Marines will instead be wearing crocs.
So which is it, are we going to stop the war, or are we about to go all in with a ground force invasion? There are articles on lemmy that say completely opposing things.
The leadership of the country waging the war are saying completely opposing things, to be fair.
The war is over, it's not a war, no troops, but we're moving troops. We don't need allies, send allies, allies are cowards, all sorts of things.
A good analogy of the situation is the lyrics to Katy Perry's Hot and Cold
At most they're going to grab any islands and a foothold on the Straits. Occupying Mainland Iran is a Herculean task that would take millions of troops to do properly and they do not have the support for that and even then with the mountains it would be constant guerrilla warfare. Like Afghanistan. As soon as we left, the absolute minute we leave it would revert to them.
I think the military is preparing for every eventuality. No one can predict what the administration will do next, except that, long-term, it won't be to our benefit, just theirs.
Death by pedo.
Welp. A lot of service members are going to get a chance to die for the felon rapist they voted for.
The rest of us can go around and around living the same fucking Groundhog Day we've been living our entire lives. Elect a Republican. Go to war in the Middle East. Watch economy eat shit.
Stupid is as stupid does.
When I was a kid, all I heard about americans is that they were beyond stupid. I did not really believe it. Like sure some are complete redneck unsalvageable religious idiots. But it's not possible to be as dumb as that as a country.
Well. I was wrong.
The problem is that the completely redneck unsalvageable religious idiots got into the government while everyone else was too busy looking at shiny things. It's the loudmouth illiterate 30% who ended up in charge, and now we're paying for it.
That may have been a fine reason the first time. But electing a second time that seditious racist pedo and his gang of brain dead bros, that, is country level stupidity. Because 30% doesn't win an election.
Beyond "because Israel wants it" and "to distract from the Epstein files", what's the supposed benefit to the US for doing this?
The US has learned nothing from Iraq and Vietnam.
"because Israel wants it" is also America wants it.
Iran serves as a last remaining resistance to Israel's expansionist goals, take them down and they'll take over Lebanon, Jordan, parts of Syria and Egypt.
That's decades of insurgency and civil wars where American weapons manufacturers can make huge profits both arming extremists and bombing them. Brown people die in the process, but who cares about that.
For sure. I guess my confusion is better stated as "what dumb shit reason are Republican citizens using as justification?"
There just isn't any way that this benefits the average American.
It benefits the average Christian American because they'll get taken into heaven. See, the Jews all have to gather in Israel to kick off the war that leads to the Second Coming and the Rapture.
I wish this were a joke. That's really what they believe.
China is establishing alternative trade routes to bypass major US controlled chokepoints like the straight of Malacca. Iran is a literally crossroads of the world and China's trade with Africa and West Asia has to travel through it. Iran also supplies 50% of China's oil and because China doesn't have any significant domestic oil reserves this is critical to their industry and national defence.
This is INCREDIBLY important to geopolitics. The very existence of trade outside of US monitered/controlled routes especially without the use of the dollar is an enourmous threat to its global hegemony and domestic economy. China's number 1 goal is to create economic relations outside of the US sphere of influence resulting in a multipolar rather than unipolar world economy. The geographical location of Iran is critical to this.
I genuinely can't stress this enough. Israel almost certainly "started it" because they need Iran gone more than the US does but the US is also very interesting in an utterly dysfunctional Iran. The goal likely isn't to control that territory or even to extract resources from it. The goal is to make it unmanageable/uninvestable for decades.
Also oil
That's bullshit. This will not improve the US economy. Trump has always enriched himself on the expense of US economy. Trump does not give two fucks about the american economy and has never done anything to put his country intrest first. . not even Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Ben Shapiro, Rubio, .. no one said this stupid shit you came up with. Please, before you get offended and shut down, please read until the end of my comment:
BEFORE THE WAR the US already had %100 total control over all of the oil and gas trades in the gulf reigon with all of them trading it exclusively in petrodollars and re-inveating %100 of all their profits back into US stocks and defense contracts on top. They also had put both Russia and Iran under crippling sanctions where both were hardly able to sell any of it in the most discounted prices worldwide. So that's not why they went there.
The US is fighting wars for Israel settler-colonial expansion and hegemony because all their congress is fully bribed and Trump is fully comprimised by Netenyahu.
Your reason doesn't make sense because the Britian empire figured this out since 1700 when they were controlling all trade routes of all the nations they invaded. Because even if the US spent $300 billions and fully and successfully invaded Iran to secure Hormuz, (which would take securing bases along all the coast and the mountains of west Iran aka long-term invasion that needs 200k soldiers deployment), and iran stopped having any government and became a bunch of militias controlling different reigons, the US still will not stay there and have everything to lose to stay there just like Iraq. How much do you think it costs to sustain this bullshit otherwise they would be there extracting minerals from Afghaistan and in iraq still exporting their oil. They are fighting for Netenyahu because the US government represents Israel first, and on the other hand these oil and weapon execs and the ones making these decisons are getting richer and nothing to lose.
I diagree with a few key points
this will not improve the US economy
Yes and no. It will improve the "economy" in that wealthy powerful people will enrich themselves through it and it weakens a threat to their wealth and power. This is what state officials often mean when they say that our economy is doing well. It is, for them, and they need to insure that this continues. One of the purposes of the state is to direct the often very short term interests/incentives of the various capitalists towards long term interests. The economy, the one used to refer to the standard living conditions of the working class, will suffer from this war, they just don't care about that.
Trump does enrich himself through the power he wields yes but he has to care about the American economy because he IS beholden to other people. Not you and me but rather the other members of his class. If he is to act too far outside of their interests he would be removed from power. He doesn't need our consent to rule, not really, but he does need theirs.
not even Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, Ben Shapiro, Rubio
You should not be looking to these people's public facing statements for geopolitical analysis. They are not reliable sources. I honestly question whether these idiots are even aware that this is the reason, some of them genuinely do believe the nonsense they say.
They also had put both Russia and Iran under crippling sanctions where both were hardly able to sell any of it in the most discounted prices worldwide.
Russia doesn't look so crippled to me. While Iran was suffering under sanctions they were doing far better than the US had expected. They also joined BRICS which is the current largest and most successful attempt to create a world trade network outside of American influence. Russia and Iran were "hardly able to sell oil" because they weren't selling it officially. They sold it to middle men who could skirt around sanctions. Trust me that oil was getting sold it just wasn't labelled Russian or Iranian anymore.
The US is fighting wars for Israel settler-colonial expansion and hegemony because all their congress is fully bribed and Trump is fully comprimised by Netenyahu.
Entire major world economies do not fight wars because their politicians have been bribed. Our politicians are able to do what they are doing because it also serves the interests of their donors. Look at what their donors are saying. They need Israel to succeed because their unsinkable aircraft carrier in west asia is indespensable to maintaining control in that region.
Idr feel like responding to the rest, my partner wants to play stardew. Here's a video that covers this perspective better than me [video]
I couldn't get away.
Why do they always send the poor?
Fuck Trump
You know what would really slap? Iran setting up military bases in Mexico, Canada, Venezuela and Argentina
I mean drive through my neighbourhood (Newmarket, Ontario) it's pretty much little Iran as it is.
Much love to my Iranians my kids are friends with their kids. I love my Iranian peeps.
Nothing against them at all. The Iranian regime sucks. May we both hope in solidarity there is any relief for Americans or Iranians in this mountain of dogshit.
qatar has one in the US.
I can bet my last penny it is an administrative outpost, nothing like the combat ready setup the US has in multiple middle-eastern regions. You can not beat the Epstein class, they work really hard.
I see we're falling for one of the classic blunders.
Facing a country that not only outlived the start and fall of the roman empire, but has actively defended itself for the past four millennium thinking they can win?
Having a dip-shit for a president?
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediaite :
The New York Times has described the site as "a blog that chronicles the gossipy media world"
So not the most credible source you could imagine. But on the other hand, Wikipedia doesn't list any examples of Mediaite being fake news. And in this case, Mediaite is just summarizing a CBS article - the CBS article should obviously have just been linked instead.
In any case, it seems to me that Trump has two options: 1) Give consessions to Iran to save the global oil market or 2) ground invasion. Since I can't imagine Trump surrendering, no matter how game theory rational it would be, I am expecting ground operations.
very slanted reporting, i started ignoring them, cbs and wapo after the election. PBS has some good reporting
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mediaite/ -- founded in 2009, leftist bias, but high credibility. 0 failed fact checks in 5 years.
https://ground.news/interest/mediaite -- similar evaluation here
So looks pretty credible to me.
In my experience I've seen their reporting to be accurate, though sensationalized, and they have a liberal bias. So just keep that in mind while reading their articles. You'll have to ignore the sensationalism and just read the facts, and then ask yourself what they're omitting from the article.
Yeah this will make a global recession a certainty. Fck Trump.
Would start sending these ICE agents fucks. Seems they like playing CoD.
This is absolutely f*%#ing insane…
Kharg island is tiny. Really tiny. Any troops trying to hold it are going to get hit with drones, missiles and artillery constantly.
That sounds like an awful situation where a bunnch of young lives would be sacrificed in an ongoing series of attacks so that the evening news could be saturated with graphic tragic shit leading up to Trump being "forced" to do whatever they have planned next.
So I assume that's literally evil plan A, and reality will turn out worse.
thats why trump was asking for help, hes only going lead his "suckers and loser" whom he called, marines to slaughter
Huh. So I guess these jagoffs are finally admitting this little jaunt of theirs is really a war, then?
Its gonna be longer than you think!
🤣
Well, not according to the rocket surgeons in this administration, especially when they first started with this new instance of insanity.
At various times, I'm pretty sure they even claimed it was already wrapping up.
I'm sure the base ate that up; not too sure about anyone else buying that.
I saw "Jaunt" and felt that it had to be said. The exclamation point is more part of the quote from the Stephen King book than it is me yelling into the void.
Donald and Jeff thank you for your service.
FOR EPSTEIN!!!
Don't worry they'll "take care of" your families, especially the kids.
Conscientious objection!
Send the MAGATs and ICE
Gotta try to stop the sale of oil in Yuan somehow, the orange turd stepped in the biggest pile of shit ever, but he just can't get it off his shoe no matter what.
Following in the grand tradition of Great Britain and Russia.
mostly russia.
Its not a war if other side cant retaliate, so lets not call it war, but rather raid.
But... The other side IS retaliating
Sure, but not on Washington regimes soil.
I mean... I guess not directly? Fucking up oil prices pretty badly, which makes trump and the Republicans looks like massive fucking stupid cunts.
As you say, it does fuck up might, there will be economic consequences.
But no bombs will terrorize civilians of the washington regime, no iranian soldiers will set foot on the land, no resistance movement against Iran invasion has to be organized.
All happens so far away, that one could pretend like it was not happening.
iran is retaliating with missile and drone strike, gaza isnt considered one.
Axios’s Barak Ravid and Marc Caputo had reported on Friday morning that the administration was “considering plans to occupy or blockade Iran’s Kharg Island to pressure Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz,” and noted that “Such an operation, if approved, would also require more troops.”
We're talking about ground troops, not naval.
There has been no logistical support put in place so far for ground troops. Seeing such support beginning to roll out would be the first sign that this was more than just speculation.
They're going to airdrop some Florsheim boots over Qom and Isfahan, aren't they?
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Boots on ground will run into artillery and drones.
It’s like they learned nothing from watching Russia and Ukraine.
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