Microslop official documentation on how to ground an AI

5 months ago by TheKrunkedJuan to c/programmer_humor

Yes, this is official documentation from the MS Learn course for the Agentic AI Solution Architect certificate

Microslop SharePhont™

nocteb 169 points 5 months ago

who morged that? Why does that happen continvously?

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errer 54 points 5 months ago

What a combigent, inbiltum response!

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Witchfire -2 points 5 months ago

It's AI generated

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WarmSoda 56 points 5 months ago

Thank you for joining the class

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Photonic 43 points 5 months ago path: 0 23757235 23758487 23758795, hotness: undefined, score: 43, children: 1
FiniteBanjo 5 points 5 months ago

TBH the joke isn't annotated as such and there are always people stupid or innocent enough.

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Ephera 15 points 5 months ago path: 0 23757235 23758487 23759160, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 3
kivihiili 8 points 5 months ago
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kivihiili 9 points 5 months ago
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aaa 3 points 5 months ago

Yes, that’s the point

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mycodesucks 140 points 5 months ago

Anyone remember how much nicer the world felt before we all realized nobody in charge of anything with any real power has any idea what the fuck they're doing?

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OwOarchist 39 points 5 months ago

We didn't all realize that at the same point. Some of us have known that for a very long time.

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redsand 5 points 5 months ago

I was twelve watching Jon Stewart. It was quite the epiphany

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wheezy 27 points 5 months ago

They know what they are doing. Their goals just don't align with the rest of humanity.

The mistake we make is in assuming that government choices are born of incompetence... The actions of empire are not incompetent. They are not intended to serve you or the citizens, but to serve material interests, the plunder of land, natural resources, markets, and cheap labor".

-Michael Parenti

RIP to the GOAT

Edit: He talks about it in the lecture starting around 15:35. Though the quote above is from his book "against empire"

https://youtu.be/s5oPFAfdrkU?t=935

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Bloefz 10 points 5 months ago

Well back then we thought everyone in charge was evil. Back then we had Krutschev, Nixon etc. Always nuclear war looming. And Reagan with this trickle downs, the Bush wars over made-up WMDs etc.

I don't think there was ever really a positive period. Maybe the 90s which was kinda the high point. Economics were good, America and NATO was the undisputed world power, nobody took global warming seriously yet and the internet was promising a great future.

Then after 2000 we had the dot com crash, 9/11, the resulting wars, Russia becoming an enemy again, the financial world crisis, the rise of the internet as a surveillance tool, global warming, the pandemic, exploding house prices everywhere.

Really pretty much exactly after the change of the century everything turned to shit.

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WalleyeWarrior 7 points 5 months ago

Economics were good if you lived in a western country. Former Soviet Block, Yugoslavia, and global South countries were having a rough go of thing in the 90s

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FiniteBanjo 0 points 5 months ago

They're still having a rough go of things, and they were having a rough go of things before that as well, so that's not really a valid counterpoint.

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NocturnalMorning 2 points 5 months ago

If they were having a rough go of things in the 90s. Then the 90s weren't the shining beacon of success it's claimed to be. That point is very much valid.

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Valmond 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah but the future was bright back then.

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Wiz 2 points 5 months ago

Source: I gotta wear shades.

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youcantreadthis 5 points 5 months ago

No that was a long time ago for some of us it's always been like this you were just insulated by privilege

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Shanmugha 3 points 5 months ago

Thanks for notifying, I hate to know it's true (no insult intended)

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sp3ctr4l 2 points 5 months ago

Nope.

I'm legitimately having a blast right now, 100% affirmed by reality, which I spent the last roughly 15 years of trying to tell people, very labriously, with very detailed reasoning, why what is now obvious was then and basically always has been the case.

Your discomfort is my schadenfreude.

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psud 1 point 5 months ago

I'm sure that back in the day there were adults in charge of the big companies. I know that where I work management used to listen to tech areas for tech stuff. Now they just trust whatever the Microsoft agent tells them

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faebudo 75 points 5 months ago

It would be really funny if it wasn't so sad.

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otter 7 points 5 months ago

It almost makes me think a human worker intentionally made these slides. LLMs don't really have the creativity to make typos, which is how I can sometimes catch LLM comments on here. Also "SharePhont" is pretty funny

Unless they used an image generator to make the slides, which would be extra stupid

edit: turns out it WAS the extra stupid

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AnAmericanPotato 42 points 5 months ago

Oh it's definitely extra stupid. Looks like the slide was made whole-cloth by an image generator, not like the text was generated by an LLM and pasted in.

Image generators make typos all the time (if you can call them that).

See also: continvoucly morged

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luciferofastora 4 points 5 months ago

Image generators make typos all the time (if you can call them that).

Primitive image generators don't "understand" semantics of the patterns they assemble. The obvious example we're probably all familiar with is "AI hands" with weird poses, excessive fingers, sometimes even extra arms etc.: the AI knows the pattern we understand as a finger, it knows the correlation with those we see as hands and arms, but it doesn't how what a hand is or why it's important to have a specific number of those patterns combined in specific ways.

Text is the same: The model knows the graphic patterns of letters, maybe knows the patterns of words the letter-patterns often occur in, but the same randomisation that can produce different enough results to look human can also lead to randomly generating patterns that it fundamentally can not know aren't actually valid words.

 

There are solutions, such as using a more specialised tool like a combined layout generator and text generator with feedback to make the text fit the layout. Using the right tool for the task at hand, paired with supervision by a human that knows its shortcomings and can check whether and where it trips up, might do a better job.

But that human has to have the required know-how, and if you really want to use a single LLM to feed all prompts into, that model should be capable of detecting and delegating the work to those specialised tools (checking with the prompter to confirm that its detection is accurate).

A simple all-purpose-model and general "prompt engineer" without subject-specific experience and training just won't cut it. The marketing for these tools generally seems terribly intransparent about that problem, and executives generally seem to be oblivious to it (or just indifferent, so long as it helps them cut costs on paper for a few quarters).


(As an aside: it's the same difficulty text generators occasionally have with facts and citations: They can't tell when it is important to have very specific combinations of words that map to very specific occurrences. It might have picked up the correlation of the word pattern "Words (Number), Words (something edition). Words." with human names, year numbers, book titles and publisher respectively, but it can't know why only specific combinations of author, year, existing book title and publisher are permissible.

It may get them right often enough by picking a likely combination from texts related to the prompt, but unless you double check (or provide in advance) that citations refer to existing works and fit the cited content, you run the risk that it randomly generates bullshit. A student "writing" a paper might not be able to catch it, but a professor that knows the major authors and works of their field is probably gonna spot it.)

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AnAmericanPotato 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah. The newer versions of Dall-E, GPT-Image, and similar cloud apps seem to have subnetworks specifically for text. They're worlds better than they were just a year or two ago. Like, you can twist them into generating semi-coherent-looking text logos, or make a cartoon character wearing a T-shirt with some text on it.

I've seen some complex pipelines with open models, where people train loras specifically to fix the things the base models suck at, like hands, text, etc.

But it's still a really dumb idea to generate a whole presentation slide or infographic that way, for a wide variety of reasons. If you ever get decent results, just consider yourself lucky. I mean, even the people with the skills to do this well (who are few and far between) would find it way more trouble than just, you know, making slides the normal way.

The incompetence we keep seeing from Microsoft is staggering. I can only assume this is malicious compliance. I imagine some exec said "everyone needs to use AI for everything" and everyone below them said "okay you dumb fuck, here you go".

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youcantreadthis 4 points 5 months ago

Always bet on stupid

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reddig33 74 points 5 months ago
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ProfessorScience 150 points 5 months ago

It combigated them.

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Diplomjodler3 69 points 5 months ago

A veritable answer.

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burgermeister 46 points 5 months ago

It's a perfectly cromulent word

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Morphit 34 points 5 months ago

Product of continvoucly morged slop.

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HeHoXa 8 points 5 months ago

I'm about to combigate my foot with your ass!

(sorry, just felt right somehow)

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sp3ctr4l 1 point 5 months ago

Almost made me do a spit take, damn you lol!

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abbadon420 4 points 5 months ago

Doesn't siund like AI. Sounds more like they fired all the competent, expensive employees and replaced them with AI, than realized AI wasn't doing so well and this was made by the few incompetent, cheap employees that were left.

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four 64 points 5 months ago

Data Flow

Data Flow


Data Flow

The Data must Flow

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eager_eagle 23 points 5 months ago

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Cevilia 4 points 5 months ago
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FiniteBanjo 1 point 5 months ago

REVOLVER OCELOT

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EldenLord 2 points 5 months ago path: 0 23760262 23761824 23765765, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Hadriscus 15 points 5 months ago

It's the Combigent Directive

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CoopaLoopa 55 points 5 months ago

Saw this article from Microslop the other day about their MDASH copilot model competing with Mythos for bug finding/fixing.

Microsoft security blog

And here's the image they went with for the flowchart of what the AI does... Complete with overlapping text and the worst layout I've ever seen.

Zero humans proofed this.

Microsoft AI slop flowchart

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death_to_carrots 20 points 5 months ago

I know this! This is a slide deck which only makes sense in an interactive way, where the steps are revealed after one another. Probably straight from a presentation.

Don't attribute bad work to AI which can be done in the same way by an incompetent human.

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Fmstrat 13 points 5 months ago

As someone who's career depended on presentations for a while:

Never build animations in-slide (unless they are purely aesthetic).

Instead:

Build multiple slides which duplicate the previous and add new boxes with transitions on the slides. Bonus: change the title on each build to cover the key point.

Sure, they take longer to edit. But that leave-behind export to PDF always works.

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cypherpunks 5 points 5 months ago

about their MDASH copilot model

that's satire, right? anakin-padme-2

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Cevilia 51 points 5 months ago
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red_sock 6 points 5 months ago

"Combigent?" Hm, I never heard that word before I moved to Microsoft.

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JackbyDev 6 points 5 months ago

Microsoft 365 is the only Combigent Certified® cloud platform.

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alberttcone 1 point 5 months ago

Microsoft 36S, I think you’ll find!

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Egonallanon 45 points 5 months ago

Combigent is too nice a sounding word to lack any real meaning it needs one.

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bright 19 points 5 months ago

Combigent (adj.)

Definition: A word that seems like a real word but actually isn't

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SubArcticTundra 13 points 5 months ago

It also looks completely plausible for a word. I can see why an AI trained to make plausible-looking images generated it.

Now I'm curious to see what other perfectly English-looking words it comes up with

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youcantreadthis 6 points 5 months ago

How dqre you say such mean things about my computer boyfriend you're just an irrational meanie I bet all the words you used here are fake too!

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SubArcticTundra 9 points 5 months ago

I guess it'll be nice to have a spare word lying around for when a wordless meaning emerges

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cadekat 9 points 5 months ago

A classy male driver of a combine?

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islandcoda42 8 points 5 months ago

Skilled with the use of a comb

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notso 5 points 5 months ago

Combigent [kəmˈbʌɪdʒ(ə)nt] {adj} A portmanteau of combine and emergent, describing sth. derived from combination, the ability to combine newly discovered facts or bullshit hallucinated by AI. Examples: The LLM gave a combigent response. The manager's presentation was quite combigent.

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RaoulDook 39 points 5 months ago

Combigent is a perfectly cromulent word! Veritably cromulent

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MelodiousFunk 12 points 5 months ago

Not a single one of those words is cromulent, I swear on my aunt's borschtum.

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Geobloke 37 points 5 months ago

Seems perfectly cromulent to me

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eager_eagle 31 points 5 months ago

I don't see the probulent here

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isVeryLoud 30 points 5 months ago

Data flow

Data flow Data flow

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JackbyDev 11 points 5 months ago

Data flow

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leds 6 points 5 months ago

The data must flow

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Regrettable_incident 2 points 5 months ago

It's flowing. . . it's flowing!

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Blackmist 30 points 5 months ago

Those are perfectly cromulent words.

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Dumhuvud 26 points 5 months ago

Clown corporation. If I were employed by Microsoft, I'd probably be embarrassed to admit that in public.

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Leonixster 26 points 5 months ago

You missed "Microsoft 36S" and "Intemal Docs"

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Bloefz 16 points 5 months ago

Yeah those are very weird errors. Not like AI hallucinations. But more like OCR errors.

I wonder if they imported another PowerPoint and then the AI made images out of it to process it. That would be a very inefficient way to do it.

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mokus 8 points 5 months ago

Maybe the AI has had an OCR pass grafted onto its output processing to make it seem more capable of producing text. AI image generation usually makes weird alien looking text, I could imagine someone deciding to add on an automatic cleanup step to try to make it less obviously AI.

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JackbyDev 26 points 5 months ago

Due to the negative press combigent

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kamstrup 24 points 5 months ago

I see, they have been continvoucly morging the docs themselves, as per their developer docs

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umbraroze 23 points 5 months ago

Veritable answer? Indubitably!

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ChaoticNeutralCzech 22 points 5 months ago

Combigent (livestock medicine) bottle

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MonaySimpson 19 points 5 months ago

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 17 points 5 months ago

Combigent is a perfectly cromulent word.

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wuffah 12 points 5 months ago

I solemnly swear to god, I posted this exact same thing before I saw your post lol

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samus12345 7 points 5 months ago

A noble spirit combiggens the smallest man.

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kshade 17 points 5 months ago

The worst is claiming Copilot "understands intent & meaning", the funny mistakes more or less show that that's just a blatant lie.

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Mirodir 16 points 5 months ago

There are also three "Data Flow" labels (two for the same arrow even) and I'm pretty sure it says Intemal Docs, which makes sense for and AI to mess up too because of similar m and rn look.

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OwOarchist 16 points 5 months ago

According to Microsoft's own terms and conditions, AI is supposed to be used for entertainment purposes only. They're breaking their own terms and conditions here.

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AdamBomb 8 points 5 months ago

I was entertained by this slide. Laughed my ass off in fact

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Altarius 7 points 5 months ago

And yet, aren't they entertaining us with the results?

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GenosseFlosse 4 points 5 months ago

Did their marketing department read the TOS? because that is not how copilot is advertised.

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OwOarchist 5 points 5 months ago

Did their marketing department read the TOS?

They asked Copilot to summarize it for them.

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Kaligalis 13 points 5 months ago

It's Microslop. The people who had any resemblance of work ethics left a long time ago. No one still working there gives any shits about QA - especially not the management.

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wuffah 13 points 5 months ago

Combigent is a perfectly cromulent word.

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J92 11 points 5 months ago

Understands intent & meaning Understands intent & meaning Understands intent & meaning Understands intent & meaning Understands intent & meaning Understands intent & meaning

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wizardbeard 10 points 5 months ago

You should have a look at some of the official PowerShell scripts they've made to assist with managing, installing, and decommissioning Exchange Servers.

One had the word group misspelled consistently the entire way through it. Another had a wonderful comment noting that an internal function (to manage something with AD permissions or deep internals of the Exchange Server) that looked misspelled was in fact spelled correctly, because the command had a typo in the real name of it.

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AmidFuror 4 points 5 months ago

That sounds like human errors.

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4am 10 points 5 months ago

Microslop Cope A lot

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corey931 9 points 5 months ago

For years, I’ve rather read Stackoverflow comments than Microsoft’s nearly unusable documentation. It’s as if they don’t know how to write coherently

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licketysplit 5 points 5 months ago

Then they train their troubleshooting clanker on said unusuable documentation so it's unhelpful but it won't let you talk to a human who might actually be able to assist you.

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psud 1 point 5 months ago

DOS 5 docko was fine. I wonder* when they went wrong

*I don't really

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corey931 1 point 5 months ago

Oh, yes. Good question. I can’t speak for those days. I’m largely speaking largely about the Azure related documentation over the past 5 years or so

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vane 9 points 5 months ago

So it's search engine that costs 10 times the energy.

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leftzero 14 points 5 months ago

Of course it costs more, classic search engines lack the combigency and veritability Copilot provides.

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OwOarchist 8 points 5 months ago

And gives you the wrong information 30% of the time.

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whotookkarl 8 points 5 months ago

It might be combigent, but at least it's veritable

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Juice 7 points 5 months ago

A "combingent" is when a guy is going commando, but when using the bathroom, is in too much of a hurry and gets his scrote skin caught in the zip

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Regrettable_incident 3 points 5 months ago

Nah, that's a 'nadscrag'

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Juice 2 points 5 months ago

its like how some people say pop, and others say soda and then others call all soda and pop cola, and then others that call soda and pop soda pop.

Some places call it a combingent nadscrag and that's just wrong

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Regrettable_incident 7 points 5 months ago

TBF 'combigent' should be a word. Not sure I can think of a unique case that justifies it, but it sounds like it could easily be a word.

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bricklove 8 points 5 months ago

It sounds like something that would ease the combining of ingredients/components. Like an emulsifier but more general. "An emulsifier is a combigent for oil and water"

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nexguy 6 points 5 months ago

Your mom is combigent.

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ranzispa 5 points 5 months ago

This is not AI, AI would have made it much better. I mean, the only thing LLMs are quite good at is writing words, it is uncommon they misspell a word.

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placebo 28 points 5 months ago
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green_goglin 5 points 5 months ago

Microslop boomers are the worst

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ITGuyLevi 5 points 5 months ago

I started using linkwarden to archive their documentation for various things just so I know I'm not crazy when it changes.

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hamid 4 points 5 months ago
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ITGuyLevi 2 points 5 months ago

Oh my Lord, that is so much easier and in hindsight, so obvious. Thank you brother!

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doopen 4 points 5 months ago

"I published the Intemal Docs because I thought it was a project name. I'm sorry. Would you like some best practices on damage mitigation?"

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wonderingwanderer 4 points 5 months ago

Such a combigent, veritable flowchart

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Evotech 2 points 5 months ago

Humanslop

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FiniteBanjo 1 point 5 months ago

I thought it wasn't in English at first.

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KingKoolaid -2 points 5 months ago
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Riverside 3 points 5 months ago
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KingKoolaid 0 points 5 months ago
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Riverside 2 points 5 months ago
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KingKoolaid 0 points 5 months ago
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username123 2 points 5 months ago

Why are you booing them? They're right.

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rudyharrelson 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, never seen poor grammar or spelling in content written by Americans before 🙄

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username123 -1 points 5 months ago

Not that bad

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vga -6 points 5 months ago

AI doesn't misspell words. It's more like hypercorrect which reveals it.

Unless MS uses some very outdated models of course.

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HereIAm 28 points 5 months ago

Unless the whole thing is a generated image, then it can certainly misspell words.

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vga -9 points 5 months ago

Rephrasing: I've used AI a lot and I haven't seen it misspell anything in at least a year. Even in pictures these days. Depends on the model, of course.

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TRock 1 point 5 months ago

Claude is quite often making spelling mistakes

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FiniteBanjo 0 points 5 months ago

You forgot the /s

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favoredponcho -11 points 5 months ago
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zeroConnection 5 points 5 months ago

I couldn't be a software engineer without knowing English spelling. So you're talking bullshit.

FYI, all programming languages are based on English language and use English words.

Even edited your comment to be confidently incorrect, LOL

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favoredponcho 0 points 5 months ago
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FiniteBanjo 3 points 5 months ago

Your ass would have been downvoted on any platform for saying spelling and grammar is not valued in engineering disciplines. Some of them would be downvoting you for saying a discipline built on the foundations of math and science does not value accurate and correct documentation, and the others would be downvoting you for calling whatever the fuck microslop is doing an "engineering discipline".

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